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- Portuguese Coastal 2021 Frances Leon/Muxia2023
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Personally I would take the Altus as they are easy to deploy and cover the bag as well. Then no need for the jacket, kilt or pack rain cover.
I hike a lot in the UK which is well known for its desert like lack of rain (NOT), I use kilt, jacket, long gaiters, and a good pack cover. On the Camino I discovered jealousy, of those who had Altus. To the extent that I am about to purchase one. Don't get me wrong I like what I use, just the Altus looks a better solution. (And is probably lighter)
But how much does your rain jacket plus your waterproof pack cover also add to the carried weight.KILT. Very lightweight, small (I clip it on my pack chest strap), on and off within a couple of minutes, super dry and wind proof. No blowing about. Complete protection. Nothing else for me! $40. I’m happy to share more. PS. I used an ikea poncho my first Camino Frances vs the kilt + Rain jacket in 25 days of, at times, very heavy rain & wind on the Camino Norte and the KILT was far superior and much easier and weight-saving vs any poncho.....Altus weighs a half a kilogram vs my kilt 60gm.
Wow, difficult subject. After our first Camino didn’t take brilliance to realize it’s all about the backpack weight. Don’t like getting wet! Waterproof shoes?But how much does your rain jacket plus your waterproof pack cover also add to the carried weight.
The altus may be called a poncho but is in fact more like a long overcoat, it fastens down the front like a coat and has sleeves, at least the one I'm thinking of buying does.
Due to my extravagant waist size my wife made my rain kilt which is longer than usual and I have worn it on top of the Pennines and other places where the wind and rain forget that there are sentient brings at their mercy. It us great no problems with it at all. But on the Camino I have to say it, the gaiters, the waterproof jacket and the pack protector are overkill, when compared to the Altus. Not sure I would say that to be the case with a normal poncho though. My mate uses sticky velcro pads on his poncho in order to stop it being a kite, but it is a very expensive and very heavy poncho that also has a pack extension.
i won't be on the moon so can compromise on Camino if i have to.
I bought a longish poncho in order to ensure my rucksac stays dry. If your backpack is totally waterproof I reckon a waterproof (breathable) jacket is probably betterHi everyone!
Please remember i am a newbie to Camino; so advice is most welcome as the nuances of kit are still sinking in!
Am i over complicating something that's a straight forward choice?
I have never worn a rain kilt ; but i have listened to several threads about them verses waterproof trousers.
I am walking mid Sept fly home mid Oct that's if we are free by then.
I imagine those who have walked, have a better idea of what conditions to expect;and how cold/wet it gets.
The fact that getting waterproofs on an off when your wet or muddy appears to be almost a science on the trail something i hadn't considered (this will defo be an issue for me;not only because of my vision but i also have BPPV which is is a form of intermittent vertigo; to many motorcycle crashes) so ending up in the mud/or on my bum is distinct possibility as trying to stand on one leg i will end up like Delboy when he falls behind the bar in Fools and Horses!
I am thinking of a kilt as an option for ease of use and to avoid rain trousers altogether.
I have brought an Altus Atmospheric poncho i imagine that's for constant downpour (although it only has a 2000ml hyd/head doesn't sound enough but lots say they are great so took a chance)
However i thought the kilt would accompany a lightweight rain jacket for drizzly windy weather (i have a Houdini jacket) along the coast and if warm/humid make it more comfortable walking?
So basically i am asking which is best poncho or kilt with jacket or a combination of both?
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
Woody.
Happy New Year.
But how much does your rain jacket plus your waterproof pack cover also add to the carried weight.
The altus may be called a poncho but is in fact more like a long overcoat, it fastens down the front like a coat and has sleeves, at least the one I'm thinking of buying does.
Due to my extravagant waist size my wife made my rain kilt which is longer than usual and I have worn it on top of the Pennines and other places where the wind and rain forget that there are sentient brings at their mercy. It us great no problems with it at all. But on the Camino I have to say it, the gaiters, the waterproof jacket and the pack protector are overkill, when compared to the Altus. Not sure I would say that to be the case with a normal poncho though. My mate uses sticky velcro pads on his poncho in order to stop it being a kite, but it is a very expensive and very heavy poncho that also has a pack extension But how much does your rain jacket plus your waterproof pack cover also add to the carried weight.
Well I’ve tried various options and my preference is the kilt. My rain jacket weighs 250 gm (+ kilt 60gm) but I wear the jacket (huge zip pits for ventilation) most days with 1-2 merino wool tops under whereas I doubt you wear your Altus poncho unless it’s raining or snowing. When I walk alone I found getting the poncho on quickly was almost impossible. Plus I waterproof spray my pack, use the regular pack cover for visibility and rain AND use 1 dry bag inside my pack so nothing gets wet. I walked the Norte in March 2018 and it rained almost daily and somedays all day. The kilt, rain jacket and pack rain prep worked perfectly. My entire pack never exceeds 5 kg. To each their own.The altus may be called a poncho but is in fact more like a long overcoat, it fastens down the front like a coat and has sleeves, at least the one I'm thinking of buying does.
Due to my extravagant waist size my wife made my rain kilt which is longer than usual and I have worn it on top of the Pennines and other places where the wind and rain forget that there are sentient brings at their mercy. It us great no problems with it at all. But on the Camino I have to say it, the gaiters, the waterproof jacket and the pack protector are overkill, when compared to the Altus. Not sure I would say that to be the case with a normal poncho though. My mate uses sticky velcro pads on his poncho in order to stop it being a kite, but it is a very expensive and very heavy poncho that also has a pack extension.
And, if your backpack IS totally waterproof, tell us all where to purchase such a mythological beastie!I bought a longish poncho in order to ensure my rucksac stays dry. If your backpack is totally waterproof I reckon a waterproof (breathable) jacket is probably better
That’s great. I tried an Altus “poncho-pack cover-coat” on (I know that it’s a poncho style big roomie coat that provides almost 100% coverage) but it was just too cumbersome for me as a solo female walker. Also in 2017 it rained/snowed only 5 days out of 35 that I walked (vs almost daily in 2018) making the Altus an extra 450gm over many kilometres. Hope you bought the red Altus! Good for visibility.Well I’ve tried various options and my preference is the kilt. My rain jacket weighs 250 gm (+ kilt 60gm) but I wear the jacket (huge zip pits for ventilation) most days with 1-2 merino wool tops under whereas I doubt you wear your Altus poncho unless it’s raining or snowing. When I walk alone I found getting the poncho on quickly was almost impossible. Plus I waterproof spray my pack, use the regular pack cover for visibility and rain AND use 1 dry bag inside my pack so nothing gets wet. I walked the Norte in March 2018 and it rained almost daily and somedays all day. The kilt, rain jacket and pack rain prep worked perfectly. My entire pack never exceeds 5 kg. To each their own.
Use a dry sac. My stuff stayed totally dry after daylong heavy rain for days on end.And, if your backpack IS totally waterproof, tell us all where to purchase such a mythological beastie!
And, if your backpack IS totally waterproof, tell us all where to purchase such a mythological beastie!
I always use the lightweight (inexpensive) Frogg Toggs. I have the jacket/rain pants, but my son uses the poncho. I rarely need to use the pants, but they are so lightweight I haven't minded bringing them. I have never gotten wet yet, even after hours walking in rain!I've tried all combinations of poncho, rain kilt, rain jacket... My rain jacket and pants weigh too much (and the pants always make one sweaty to the point that just being rained on would be better. The poncho with kilt was light-weight and pretty effective, but I dislike the cumbersome process of off/on with the poncho.
I think next time I will try Frogg-toggs -- something I saw a peregrina wearing last go out -- they breath in a unique manner and are very light-weight. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00HR07RKM/?tag=santiagodec0b-20.
I use a very sturdy white trash compactor bag. They are a great size for all backpacks and you can see contents easily...no water gets inside. I use small lightweight mesh laundry bags for most other items.Use a dry sac. My stuff stayed totally dry after daylong heavy rain for days on end.
I agree and did try cheap trash bags but they got punctured with unpacking and packing so when I came across very economical Karrimor dry bag for €15 I bought it and no longer worry about wet pack contents or rain for that matter. I’m now hoping to get down to a 28L pack as my 30L Millet is too big for what i carry.I use a very sturdy white trash compactor bag. They are a great size for all backpacks and you can see contents easily...no water gets inside. I use small lightweight mesh laundry bags for most other items.
asking which is best poncho or kilt with jacket or a combination of both?
if your backpack IS totally waterproof, tell us all where to purchase such a mythological beastie!
It has to be a white trash COMPACTOR bag, not a black regular trash bag. I've abused mine on three of my five caminos and still no holes! They are very sturdy.I agree and did try cheap trash bags but they got punctured with unpacking and packing
Collete, your kilt looks to be the perfect length whereas the only ones I have been able to find seem to finish just below the knee. (Of course you may only be 4ft 3" but it doesn't appear to be the case on the photoKILT. Very lightweight, small (I clip it on my pack chest strap), on and off within a couple of minutes, super dry and wind proof. No blowing about. Complete protection. Nothing else for me! $40. I’m happy to share more. PS. I used an ikea poncho my first Camino Frances vs the kilt + Rain jacket in 25 days of, at times, very heavy rain & wind on the Camino Norte and the KILT was far superior and much easier and weight-saving vs any poncho.....Altus weighs a half a kilogram vs my kilt 60gm.
I’m 5’6” or 168 cm. Here’s the ULA link so you can see options, price, etc. It really is FOR ME the most practical. I hate to carry an additional 200 gm if it only rains a bit but during my very wet Camino del Norte in 2018, it proved itself 100%. I could whip it out and get it on within a few minutes plus easy to take off and on for the crazy days if sun then rain then sun. A big plus I was happy with were the days I used it for wind protection. I did pair it with cheap gaiters on very muddy sections and I wear fast dry hiking pants. It’s much cheaper to try first va investing in the Altra rain coat poncho.Collete, your kilt looks to be the perfect length whereas the only ones I have been able to find seem to finish just below the knee. (Of course you may only be 4ft 3" but it doesn't appear to be the case on the photo) I'm not tall by any stretch of the imagination so I was wondering if you have any details of where you managed to find yours ? Thanks in anticipation
Great Buen Camino! I will hopefully do the VDLP IN WINTER 2022.Thanks Colette, I shall have a look into that. I've been wondering about a rain skirt / kilt for a while as, like you, I feel it could be ideal. It can be a real faff getting waterproof leggings on and off over the shoes, especially in a hurry. I walked the Camini del Norte in 2019 . I found it a great walk but somehow I didn't feel it was treated with the same 'reverence' as the Francis by the Spanish or the pilgrims and I missed that side of it a bit. Hopefully I'll be attempting the Via de la Plata this year as long as Spain will still let the British in. Take care and Buen Camino !
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