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Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thank you, I'll look into it more carefully after all those questions?! My naivety is glaring!!! Is it really realistic to be able test drive a fully loaded pack before one buys it?
May I suggest a final comparison before the coin flip? Which one is least expensive?Do you like the fit and feel of both equally well when loaded with 20 pounds?
If they are both equal:
Are there features on one backpack that you like better than the other? Which backpack has the best usability for you, where it is easy to adjust and easy to organize and easy access exterior pockets, etc?
If the above are nearly equal, then:
Which backpack is better made? Lighter weight? Which backpack costs more, and are you getting the same perceived value as the less expensive backpack?
If the above are equal:
Which backpack has a color you like better? Which backpack is able to be carried on a plane (if either)? Which backpack can be used for multiple roles better (day hikes, multiday wilderness backpacking)?
If the above are still equal, put on a blindfold, have someone flip a coin, and call 'heads' or 'tails'.
May I suggest a final comparison before the coin flip? Which one is least expensive?
I have the Osprey Kyte 36L, my daughter in-law borrowed it, loved it and bought the same pack. Then my daughter borrowed it, she also loved it, and also bought the same pack! It’s a fantastic pack and the company guarantees the pack for life!Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
You're right. You did mention cost.I did include that consideration, but probably in a more wordy way.
You're right. You did mention cost.
Possibly. Also possible that I read your post too quickly.I think I buried the cost thing inside too much paragraph, though.
Good points! I have used a Deuter30L SL for several Caminos. The original cranberry colour is all but unrecognizable as the Spanish sun has done its work well. It is a heavy pack for its size and while the model has improved, I think there are better packs out there. Your point about testing and fitting is an excellent one and sometimes just because a pack is labelled as 'Ladies', it may not be as practical as a well designed 'unisex' model. I have to say, if I were to buy new today, I would look hard at the Osprey.Hi and welcome! Have you tried them both on, or are they your favourites after doing some research? Both are quite heavy, but that would mean little as long as they fit you well with weight in it. You might also want to look at the Osprey Talon/Tempest models, they are very similar to the Kyte but lighter.
Thank you !In addition to all of the walking/testing advice above, perhaps take a look at the Osprey Lumina 60. It is super light. I'm 5'4". It fit me well. It held all that I needed and more if I wanted. I chose the Sea to Summit Spark SpI (that's an I and not a one after Sp) for my sleeping bag as it weighs less than a pound and compacts down to the size of a loaf of bread. I purchased THE PACKA as my rain jacket. It has a large pouch on its back to go over your pack. It can be put on and taken off without removing your pack. The hood keeps your head dry and will fit over most any hat that you care to wear. They tend to run a bit large, so a size smaller than you think you might need will probably be plenty big enough. I called and spoke with the fellow who invented the garment and took his advice re sizing. It was perfect for me. Also, in the morning, if it's chilly and you want to wear a light jacket for warmth, put it on backwards. When your body warms you can pull your arms out of the sleeves without removing your pack. The shoulder straps of the pack will keep the garment against your chest, but your arms will be free and your body temperature will adjust accordingly. Be sure to carry some Compeed and electrolyte packets. Refill as needed from the many local pharmacia.
Best wishes.
A couple reasons why the Osprey Lumina is so light, in addition to its material, is the lack of pockets on the belt and no trekking pole holders. I wore a light weight vest with many, many pockets over my very light weight short sleeve T shirts. Everything that needed to be handy and kept safe (money) was kept in that vest. I had the vest on at all times while walking or moving about in an albergue. At night it was inside my sleeping bag. When I showered, it was in a dry bag and in the shower with me.Thank you !
In addition to all of the walking/testing advice above, perhaps take a look at the Osprey Lumina 60. It is super light. I'm 5'4". It fit me well. It held all that I needed and more if I wanted. I chose the Sea to Summit Spark SpI (that's an I and not a one after Sp) for my sleeping bag as it weighs less than a pound and compacts down to the size of a loaf of bread. I purchased THE PACKA as my rain jacket. It has a large pouch on its back to go over your pack. It can be put on and taken off without removing your pack. The hood keeps your head dry and will fit over most any hat that you care to wear. They tend to run a bit large, so a size smaller than you think you might need will probably be plenty big enough. I called and spoke with the fellow who invented the garment and took his advice re sizing. It was perfect for me. Also, in the morning, if it's chilly and you want to wear a light jacket for warmth, put it on backwards. When your body warms you can pull your arms out of the sleeves without removing your pack. The shoulder straps of the pack will keep the garment against your chest, but your arms will be free and your body temperature will adjust accordingly. Be sure to carry some Compeed and electrolyte packets. Refill as needed from the many local pharmacia.
Best wishes.
There's no problem with using a 60 liter backpack on the Camino so long as one doesn't fill it up. At less than 2 lbs/880 grams, the Osprey Lumina 60 is lighter weight than the 2.7 lb/1225 gram 30 liter Quechua pack.Sorry, but 60L backpack on camino is totally wrong idea
I got my backpack at an REI store. The salesman measured my back then had me try 2 or 3. When he had found one we both thought was best, he put weights in it and had me tour the store and come back for adjustments. Still have that pack and have used it instead of a suitcase as it meets size requirements. An important point: must ride on your hips, not shoulders. Have a cover, for rain and so the straps can be contained for carry-on. Once on the camino, you can have it moved each day, or carry it if it’s been fitted well and you recognize what your genuine “needs” are. Or have a really light day pack for snacks, guide book, water..... I think the most important thing for me was the first-having a gentle expert help me find the right one.Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Sorry, but 60L backpack on camino is totally wrong idea. My wife had 30L Quechua backpack without any problem, (Of course there are better backpacks than Quechua, but I just point to size). Any backpack larger than 40L you want to fill by "only if I need...." things.... (and throw them to the bin after first day.)
@Island Sometimes the official measurements are from the bottom to the top of a full top lid, whereas the actual back system is a lot shorter and the pack can be squished down. My Osprey Talon 44 is 51 cms high in a M/L size, my Tempest 30 even shorter and both have gone as hand luggage. My husband's Osprey Stratos in a L backsize is too long and the back is too stiff to compress it any more.
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
You can apologize all you want about thinking a 60L pack is all wrong, but your opinion is just that; an opinion, and of no value to me. I went with the larger pack knowing I would not fill it. It did allow me, however, to help other pilgrims when they were struggling with the weight of their packs. I was able to place some of their items in mine, and then return the items to them when we reached an albergue. I walked my Camino for me, but I went with the idea of being able to help others if needed. The larger pack allowed me to do just that. It's not up to me to tell someone else what is right or wrong. Packs and shoes are two of the most important components when deciding what to use. What works for one may not work for another, but that doesn't make it wrong.Sorry, but 60L backpack on camino is totally wrong idea. My wife had 30L Quechua backpack without any problem, (Of course there are better backpacks than Quechua, but I just point to size). Any backpack larger than 40L you want to fill by "only if I need...." things.... (and throw them to the bin after first day.)
I have the Kyte 36L and used it as my carry on for the past 3 years with no issue on many different flightsQuite true! Some packs are more compressible! Your Talon has a removable lid but the OP's Kyte has a fixed top lid, so it would need to compressed 5+ inches to fit in most carry-on boxes; that is highly unlikely, hence my comment that it was too large for carry-on. Ditto for the Dueter - more than 5+ inches too large. Neither pack would be reliable carry-ons.
On the contrary, my suggestion of the Mira has the same weight capacity and nearly identical volume, yet meets nearly every global spec as a carry-on. Hopefully one of these pacl suggesrions will work for the OP!
My point wasn't that the lid could be removed but that it shouldn't necessarily be factored into the size of the pack, as the lid can be pulled down lower than the top of the back panel. The message above proves my point. Even my Tempest would be way too big for the hand luggage allowance when packed to the gills and with the lid full and riding on top of the pack. When moderately packed and cinched down it fits under the seat in front of me, as the photo shows. Pockets and lids can be compressed, the back system can't, so by rights the measurements should be based on the length and width of the back system plus the depth of the pack.Your Talon has a removable lid but the OP's Kyte has a fixed top lid, so it would need to compressed 5+ inches to fit in most carry-on boxes
Yes! To a front loader! So easy to pack and to find things.Hello - Ann, a 63 yr old who walked the via de la plata last year.
I have walked 6 caminos and have always carried a female specific Osprey. My latest (walked the VdP last year) is a fairview 40 - so much easier to access a front loader than a stuff from the top. Only drawback was no space for hydration pack. Not a problem as it wasn't all that hot. Bon chance!
I have a very lightweight panel loader, a Gossamer Gear Ranger 35. Only 33.9 ounces/962 grams. I'm sure that the zipper doesn't weigh much if any more than the drawstrings and buckles on top loaders. Mine doesn't open up like a suitcase. Rather it zips about 2/3 down from the top on each side. I don't have to completely unzip it to load it up, so I just set it upright and unzip partway down.I like a top loader. I count every gram/ounce, and a top loader loses the weight of the zipper. Secondly, I have so little in my bag and everything goes in the same spot each day, so I don’t have problems finding things.
And where do you put your panel loader while loading it? We aren’t supposed to put the bag on the beds, so bed bugs won’t hitch a ride and so we aren’t getting the mattresses dirty. If you lay it down on the floor, the straps and the back of the pack which goes up against your back will get dirty.
You are no doubt correct about the zipper.I have a very lightweight panel loader, a Gossamer Gear Ranger 35. Only 33.9 ounces/962 grams. I'm sure that the zipper doesn't weigh much if any more than the drawstrings and buckles on top loaders. Mine doesn't open up like a suitcase. Rather it zips about 2/3 down from the top on each side. I don't have to completely unzip it to load it up, so I just set it upright and unzip partway down.
No, it does not have an adjustable torso length. They used to have the torso lengths that it fits on their website. Something like 17" - 20", but don't quote me on that!@trecile - I’m perusing the Gossamer gear website and can’t find the answer ... does the Ranger have an adjustable torso length? The website doesn’t seem to give torso sizes.
Hi, I have done two Caminos with my Osprey Talon 44 and I just love it. Will use it again in the fall when I do the Primitivo - and for the record I am 5ft 2in and it fits me perfectly. Good luck with your choice.Hi and welcome! Have you tried them both on, or are they your favourites after doing some research? Both are quite heavy, but that would mean little as long as they fit you well with weight in it. You might also want to look at the Osprey Talon/Tempest models, they are very similar to the Kyte but lighter.
If you are in the US - and have access to REI sports stores, start there. They are skilled in fitting your pack. AND you can return anything that doesn't work out for you. It took me 3 different packs and 4 different pairs of shoes to get the right equipment. I even brought all my gear to the store to see if it all fit. Packs are very personal and everyone's body shape is different. Until you have walked many miles with a full pack, you will not know what pack is right for you.Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks but not in the US, I live in South Africa
I have been walking with Deuter Futura 32 l. A bigger size is tempting to carry more stuff eg. more weight!Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
I like a top loader. I count every gram/ounce, and a top loader loses the weight of the zipper. Secondly, I have so little in my bag and everything goes in the same spot each day, so I don’t have problems finding things.
And where do you put your panel loader while loading it? We aren’t supposed to put the bag on the beds, so bed bugs won’t hitch a ride and so we aren’t getting the mattresses dirty. If you lay it down on the floor, the straps and the back of the pack which goes up against your back will get dirty.
I almost always found a chair beside the bed, or somewhere near.
Hi Coo,Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!
I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L
Any advice greatly appreciated.
I have the Osprey Kyte 36L, my daughter in-law borrowed it, loved it and bought the same pack. Then my daughter borrowed it, she also loved it, and also bought the same pack! It’s a fantastic pack and the company guarantees the pack for life!
Hi! newbie question here.Will the airline allow Kyte 36L backpack as a carry on? Thanks.
If you ‘scroll up’ on this thread to @Sjp007 ‘s post Number #34. You’ll see they carry it onHi! newbie question here.Will the airline allow Kyte 36L backpack as a carry on? Thanks.
Depends on the airline ;-) You will need to measure your pack and compare that measurement with the 'allowed hand luggage measurements' of the airline you are planning to use.
BC SY
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