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Rob C

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Hi all. I'm leaving on 26th April 2015 to start my first Comino on 29th, I have heard that it's quite important to rest before you start, can anyone please tell me what is the suggested rest period? or do I need to train right up until the time I leave? I have been in training now since 12th March 2015, with little to no training prior to that, my training is as follows with 8kg backpack and boots: 12th Mar 21.14km = 13m, 14th Mar 21.62km = 13m, 15th Mar 19.05km = 11m, 18th Mar 18.24km = 11m, 20th Mar 20.88km = 12m, 22nd Mar 18.88km = 11m, 25th Mar 35.37km = 21m, 04th Apr 20.13km = 12m, 05th Apr 23.06km = 14m, 06th Apr 20.36km = 12m, 08th Apr 14.25km = 8m, 09th Apr 21.06km = 13m, 13th Apr 24.06km = 15m, 15th Apr 31.82km = 19m, 18th Apr 18.87km = 11m, 20th Apr 20.47km = 12m. 70% of this has been over fairly flat terrain with a few ascents thrown in, I know it's a bit late to change anything now, but is this sufficient training to walk the Comino? Many thanks
 
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is this sufficient training to walk the Comino?
It will have to do, won't it?:) Probably most pilgrims are not fit enough at the beginning, but the trick is to use the first days/weeks as part of your training. Just like you do not go to the gym and do 100 repetitions on the first day, don't overdo it in the beginning. You will be eager and surrounded by other eager pilgrims, and the temptation to do too much too early will be nearly irresistible. Resist if you can! Walk with others at their pace only for about five minutes, then agree to meet later on if convenient. Changing your gait to match others is one of the biggest mistakes that pilgrims make.

You are fit enough, if you pace yourself. Buen camino!
 

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You probably needed to do an extra 0.75 km on 25 Mar, and you seem to have neglected to train on 1 Apr. Perhaps that was a precautionary measure!

If we think it isn't enough, will that stop you? So why tempt any of us naysayers with this question? Accept that you have done what you can, start gently, listen to your body and slow down if necessary.
 

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Dont worry. Your good to go. Take the few days rest you have now before you leave and relax. Its all good. The body always needs rest to recover and to give even better results for the next training/run/walk/workout. Rest is so important. This is highly underestimated.

More important than to continue training now is to know that you should listen to your body while on the camino.
 

Rob C

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It will have to do, won't it?:) Probably most pilgrims are not fit enough at the beginning, but the trick is to use the first days/weeks as part of your training. Just like you do not go to the gym and do 100 repetitions on the first day, don't overdo it in the beginning. You will be eager and surrounded by other eager pilgrims, and the temptation to do too much too early will be nearly irresistible. Resist if you can! Walk with others at their pace only for about five minutes, then agree to meet later on if convenient. Changing your gait to match others is one of the biggest mistakes that pilgrims make.

You are fit enough, if you pace yourself. Buen camino!
Thank you, of course your right, I guess with it being so close now a little panic is setting in, the last couple of times I did start to relax a little and take in some of what nature has to offer, which is what I'm hoping the Comino is about for me. I value what you say and I suppose I think that everyone walking has been doing it for years, a walk in the park, but there are many who are going to be apprehensive about starting, but it never really occurred to me that the Coming is training and improvements will be made as you progress. Thanks for your advice, I will remember my pace is my pace.
 
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Rob C

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You probably needed to do an extra 0.75 km on 25 Mar, and you seem to have neglected to train on 1 Apr. Perhaps that was a precautionary measure!

If we think it isn't enough, will that stop you? So why tempt any of us naysayers with this question? Accept that you have done what you can, start gently, listen to your body and slow down if necessary.
Haha, apologies for being so detailed, I've just been keeping a record and it was easier to cut & paste. I read so often that people prepare many months, years even, maybe I was looking for some reassurance that weeks of training is sufficient? I've never done anything remotely like this before so fear of the unknown is inevitable. I'm sure excitement will kick in shortly to replace anxiety, and heed the good advice of those, like yourself, who knows a hell of a lot more than I.
 

Rob C

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Dont worry. Your good to go. Take the few days rest you have now before you leave and relax. Its all good. The body always needs rest to recover and to give even better results for the next training/run/walk/workout. Rest is so important. This is highly underestimated.

More important than to continue training now is to know that you should listen to your body while on the camino.
Thank you Dutch, I am a bit of a worrier I'm afraid, something I'm hopefully looking to overcome on my journey. Its so good to hear' I'm good to go', I will tattoo those words on my conscience, especially at SJPP. I have done what I can, I have to accept that, and your advice to just relax is what I need to do now. Thank you taking the time to reassure me.
 

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Hi all. I'm leaving on 26th April 2015 to start my first Comino on 29th, I have heard that it's quite important to rest before you start, can anyone please tell me what is the suggested rest period? or do I need to train right up until the time I leave? I have been in training now since 12th March 2015, with little to no training prior to that, my training is as follows with 8kg backpack and boots: 12th Mar 21.14km = 13m, 14th Mar 21.62km = 13m, 15th Mar 19.05km = 11m, 18th Mar 18.24km = 11m, 20th Mar 20.88km = 12m, 22nd Mar 18.88km = 11m, 25th Mar 35.37km = 21m, 04th Apr 20.13km = 12m, 05th Apr 23.06km = 14m, 06th Apr 20.36km = 12m, 08th Apr 14.25km = 8m, 09th Apr 21.06km = 13m, 13th Apr 24.06km = 15m, 15th Apr 31.82km = 19m, 18th Apr 18.87km = 11m, 20th Apr 20.47km = 12m. 70% of this has been over fairly flat terrain with a few ascents thrown in, I know it's a bit late to change anything now, but is this sufficient training to walk the Comino? Many thanks

Rob:

I do not know if it is possible to train appropriately for a Camino. That said, you, imo, have prepared yourself far more than most. The key is to just start slowly and listen to your body, especially your feet, as you ease your body into walking shape. Leave the rest to the Camino.

Ultreya,
Joe
 

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@Rob C, I am in the same situation! Understanding that I start where I start is important to me. Thank you for starting this thread! I will be two days behind you.
Buen Camino!
 

Rob C

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Rob:

I do not know if it is possible to train appropriately for a Camino. That said, you, imo, have prepared yourself far more than most. The key is to just start slowly and listen to your body, especially your feet, as you ease your body into walking shape. Leave the rest to the Camino.

Ultreya,
Joe
Hi Joe, I'm beginning to think that way to be honest, I've been very fortunate to do my training in virtual unbroken sunshine, I know that is not the case on the Comino this time of year, so even rain will be a new experience for me hiking. I like what you say about listening to your feet, something I notice when I'm out trekking, my will wants to continue by my feet wants to slow down. I will take on lots of the good advice I have received about taking it slowly, but as you say, Ultreya, and let the Comino handle the details. Many thanks.
 
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Rob C

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@Rob C, I am in the same situation! Understanding that I start where I start is important to me. Thank you for starting this thread! I will be two days behind you.
Buen Camino!
Thank you Suzanne, I'm pleased you can relate :) and your most welcome. I do have two rest days booked in quite early on, so there is a chance you may catch up and I will get to say 'Hi' to you. Buen Comino
 

Rob C

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@Rob C - you are definitely good to go! Just got to put the "a" in Camino and all will be well. Love that predictive text :oops:
Hi Kanga, thank you for saying that I am good to go, means a lot to hear that. I will try with the "a" ;) I had to look up predictive text? ...such a dinosaur when it comes to technology :confused:
 
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Yeah, you should have no problems.
I walked two Camino Frances from SJPdP to SDC in my 50's with zero training prior.
It's not that hard if you don't rush, allow your body to get itself conditioned and know your limitations.
cheers
 

Rob C

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Yeah, you should have no problems.
I walked two Camino Frances from SJPdP to SDC in my 50's with zero training prior.
It's not that hard if you don't rush, allow your body to get itself conditioned and know your limitations.
cheers
Cheers Mark, I wasn't sure whether to do this post to be honest, but I'm so glad I did, because replies likes yours have made me feel so much more relaxed as I have this tendency to stress over the unknown. Your an inspiration with two Comino's under your belt, thank God for people like you and for sites like this.
 
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A combination of work, illness and foul weather has completely undermined my good intentions of training (for once) for my upcoming Camino.
 

Rob C

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A combination of work, illness and foul weather has completely undermined my good intentions of training (for once) for my upcoming Camino.
So sorry to hear that there have been blocks in the way of your training, I wish I could pass on to you the faith others have in me that I don't have in myself, if there's one thing I have learned today, in spite of any amount of training, you will get through it with the sound help and advice of others. It made me think of 'Footprints'. When do you start your Comino?
 

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hi Rob - I have almost no cartilage in my knees, acute rheumatoid arthritis, collapsed arches in my feet...so for my Camino last year, I did 2 x 5km training walks and swam 3km 3 times a week for 2 months - that was the sum total of my training... it took 49 days but I got there, just a little slower than everyone else - first day was 7km, then 12km for a few days etc the most mileage walked in a day for me was 23km - my body, legs, knees and feet felt great, no blisters and I got to enjoy a mellow walk through Spain... start slow, listen to your body particularly your feet and you'll be more than fine. I leave for my 2nd Camino in 20 days (yeahh :) ) and have again not done any hectic training, my 'theory / excuse' is I'm saving my feet and knees for my Camino :) seriously, this isn't a race... Buen Camino
 

Rob C

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hi Rob - I have almost no cartilage in my knees, acute rheumatoid arthritis, collapsed arches in my feet...so for my Camino last year, I did 2 x 5km training walks and swam 3km 3 times a week for 2 months - that was the sum total of my training... it took 49 days but I got there, just a little slower than everyone else - first day was 7km, then 12km for a few days etc the most mileage walked in a day for me was 23km - my body, legs, knees and feet felt great, no blisters and I got to enjoy a mellow walk through Spain... start slow, listen to your body particularly your feet and you'll be more than fine. I leave for my 2nd Camino in 20 days (yeahh :) ) and have again not done any hectic training, my 'theory / excuse' is I'm saving my feet and knees for my Camino :) seriously, this isn't a race... Buen Camino
Hello Carla, wow, what possible excuse can I use after reading this! I have so much respect for your courage and endurance, if ever I have heard of a way to do the Comino, this is it. You have somehow managed to eliminate any remaining fears I have about doing this. To do it for a second time means you got it so right the first time, I don't need convincing of that. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and I hope your Comino will be every bit as enjoyable as the last. With your permission, I would like to keep a copy of this with me, just to remind me of the spirit that one finds on the Comino, it just goes to prove that if you have it in your heart, the rest of the body will follow, in spite of our physical maladies. Buen Comino :)
 

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Well, I now feel like I greatly under-trained after reading your post, but I made it with no problems at all back in 2013. Buen Camino!! You will do just fine :)
 
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It is a long trip. I once went to a talk about a bike ride from the Arctic to the tip of South America. When asked about what preparations they did---"Two weeks of incredible partying!" Let the first week be part of the training, don't push it and risk injury, and you will be all set>
 
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Rob C

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Well, I now feel like I greatly under-trained after reading your post, but I made it with no problems at all back in 2013. Buen Camino!! You will do just fine :)
Thank you, please don't think I was in anyway being modest by my post, I was just trying to establish if you could get away with weeks, as apposed to months of training. I'm starting to realise now that I probably took the bull by the horns (Pamplona talk) and went over the top, but if you knew me, that is typical, and would bring a smile to your face :)
 
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Rob C

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You will be fine, just do it. Have fun. Take lots of rests and enjoy! You have something good waiting for you!
Thank you Ekelund, it is very much about having fun, it's easy to forget about that when your mind was taken up with ascents :( I'm really starting to look forward to it after all the positive things people have said today. Your reply is very much appreciated and it must be amazing to see so many share the same experience over such a short period of time, quite unique.
 

Rob C

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It is a long trip. I once went to a talk about a bike ride from the Arctic to the tip of South America. When asked about what preparations they did---"Two weeks of incredible partying!" Let the first week be part of the training, don't push it and risk injury, and you will be all set>
Great story :) I guess what your telling me is I should chill and have fun...couldn't agree more. I think what's really coming through is, as you said, take it easy and all will be well. Thank you for sharing that.
 

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Flippin Modor-Raptors edited oryginal speeling mistuck.

Be nice to each other please. This is a forum devoted to the Camino, not typing proficiency.
Sincere apologies, I just thought that reply was a bit uncalled for? I came here for help not hindrance. But thank you for pointing that out.
 

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Rob C, I am excited for you! Please check back in after you start your camino and let us know how you are doing?
 
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Rob C, I am excited for you! Please check back in after you start your camino and let us know how you are doing?
Hi Susan, that is so nice of you to say that, bless you. I sure will, I have rest days in Pamplona, Burgos and Leon, so I will be online then to give you an update. Thank you for replying to my post and for your excitement for me, I'm truly starting to feel that to now with just days to go and the encouragement I have had from fellow pilgrims :)
 

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A combination of work, illness and foul weather has completely undermined my good intentions of training (for once) for my upcoming Camino.

Me too. I was doing great on my training plan until 3 weeks ago when a family emergency made me drop everything and deal with it. The situation has gone from an emergency to a slow-simmering crisis which, I'm now realizing, will continue whether I'm in town or not. I leave for the Camino in less than 3 weeks; I can practically see the departure lounge already (even if I'm not in as great shape as I'd hoped to be)!
 

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Me too. I was doing great on my training plan until 3 weeks ago when a family emergency made me drop everything and deal with it. The situation has gone from an emergency to a slow-simmering crisis which, I'm now realizing, will continue whether I'm in town or not. I leave for the Camino in less than 3 weeks; I can practically see the departure lounge already (even if I'm not in as great shape as I'd hoped to be)!
Hi Angela, so sorry to hear about that, I guess your right, emergencies and crisis's will continue in spite of us and if we put off everything we think may or may not happen we wouldn't go anywhere. I suppose the great thing about the Camino is that there are churches along the way where we can spend some time alone and ask God for help with things that we are powerless over and send our own blessing to those situations. I too can see myself at Gatwick airport, sipping a Costa and looking forward to what is ahead, so exciting. Trust me, I thought being in shape was such a priority, but I've learned no matter how fit you are, if your heart say's 'I'm doing this' you'll do it. Hope your 3 weeks fly's by :) Buen Camino
 

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Sincere apologies, I just thought that reply was a bit uncalled for? I came here for help not hindrance. But thank you for pointing that out.
I dont think you are the one who needs to make apologies.
 

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I dont think you are the one who needs to make apologies.
Thank you Dutch, I truly don't want to upset anyone, I just thought it was a bit insensitive and unnecessary, but thank you so much for your reply, much appreciated.
 
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Thank you Dutch, I truly don't want to upset anyone, I just thought it was a bit insensitive and unnecessary, but thank you so much for your reply, much appreciated.
We're a fickle and inconsistent lot. Some errors get tolerated, like @Dutch using the possessive your rather than the contraction you're. We all know what he means, and know him well enough to tolerate that foible. Other mistakes seem to have more power at raising people's hackles. I don't know if there is a consistent explanation, but as a newcomer, clearly not taking a gentle hint from @Kanga might result in some of us that are more prickly chiming in! I know I was tempted, and there are those that would tell you that my wit would dry out the Amazon, and that's from those that detect it at all :).
 

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We're a fickle and inconsistent lot. Some errors get tolerated, like @Dutch using the possessive your rather than the contraction you're. We all know what he means, and know him well enough to tolerate that foible. Other mistakes seem to have more power at raising people's hackles. I don't know if there is a consistent explanation, but as a newcomer, clearly not taking a gentle hint from @Kanga might result in some of us that are more prickly chiming in! I know I was tempted, and there are those that would tell you that my wit would dry out the Amazon, and that's from those that detect it at all :).
Thank you Doug for pointing that out to me, I must admit, I thought the 'a' in Camino meant 'chill out', if I had noticed my mistake, I would have corrected it immediately, I don't want to appear a fool. Forgive me, this is the first blog I have ever done and I'm not going to get it right, I'm chuffed I've got this far, but regardless of this, is that a reason to ridicule me in front of others, I think not.
 
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:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D...........
I'm laughing so much because there are those on this forum that apparently get way too worked up over spelling and grammatical errors on posts. I can't say I even notice it or honestly could care less about it. Life's too short you know....
Now I'm going to say it southern style. ;)

y'all needs to relax with all that readin writin and rithmatic stuff on this here forum cuz people jus tryin to ask questions and such about how to do that there walkin in the country y'all callin the camino....

cheers
 

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I'm reminded of a line from a Flanders & Swan song... "They practise beforehand, which ruins the fun". My own preparations were thwarted by endless colds.

At the start, I was one of the slowest walkers. At the end, I was still slow, but was grinding out endless Km.

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Thank you Doug for pointing that out to me, I must admit, I thought the 'a' in Camino meant 'chill out', if I had noticed my mistake, I would have corrected it immediately, I don't want to appear a fool. Forgive me, this is the first blog I have ever done and I'm not going to get it right, I'm chuffed I've got this far, but regardless of this, is that a reason to ridicule me in front of others, I think not.
I really wouldn't worry too much. We were all newcomers at some point, and I know that I made quite elementary blunders when I started. Don't think you are alone, just that you ventured out at that time of day when some of us were at our most mischievous.
 

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As long as my english is better than your (non specific) Dutch, i really dont care how my typos or grammar mistakes come across :)

Ok, ok, some are just plain lazy, like -dont- instead of -don't-, but hey, who gives a *peeeeep* :D:p

And some, i just have to say it, i blame on Apple, Steve Jobs or at least A nerd somewhere in Cupertino ;)
 

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I am reminded of the saying (think it might have been G.B. Shaw):

"Only the unimaginative spell the same word the same way twice" !

Me? If I can read and understand what someone is trying to get across then damn the spelling!
 

Rob C

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I really wouldn't worry too much. We were all newcomers at some point, and I know that I made quite elementary blunders when I started. Don't think you are alone, just that you ventured out at that time of day when some of us were at our most mischievous.
 

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I am reminded of the saying (think it might have been G.B. Shaw):

"Only the unimaginative spell the same word the same way twice" !
I think it is a reliable attribution to Mark Twain of the line 'I never had any large respect for good spelling.' I am not so sure that Shaw is the origin of the other line, but it is just one of many that wittily point out the foibles of those who put correct spelling before clear communication.

ps if i have to edit this another time to get rid of a grammatical error, I will give up!
 
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I really wouldn't worry too much. We were all newcomers at some point, and I know that I made quite elementary blunders when I started. Don't think you are alone, just that you ventured out at that time of day when some of us were at our most mischievous.
Haha, thank you Doug, I get the message, but please don't pick on us newcomers, we are very vulnerable.
 

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Sorry Doug, I didn't mean you in particular, I meant that when others feel mischievous, others suffer as a result, my best wishes.
 

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I'm reminded of a line from a Flanders & Swan song... "They practise beforehand, which ruins the fun". My own preparations were thwarted by endless colds.

At the start, I was one of the slowest walkers. At the end, I was still slow, but was grinding out endless Km.

Attitude is more important than ability
Attitude is more important than ability, I love that, and I would place that among the the greats such as: Who dares wins, or Pride before a fall etc. its really the tortoise or the hare, and we all know how that turned out! Thank you Introibo.
 

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hi Rob - I have almost no cartilage in my knees, acute rheumatoid arthritis, collapsed arches in my feet...so for my Camino last year, I did 2 x 5km training walks and swam 3km 3 times a week for 2 months - that was the sum total of my training... it took 49 days but I got there, just a little slower than everyone else - first day was 7km, then 12km for a few days etc the most mileage walked in a day for me was 23km - my body, legs, knees and feet felt great, no blisters and I got to enjoy a mellow walk through Spain... start slow, listen to your body particularly your feet and you'll be more than fine. I leave for my 2nd Camino in 20 days (yeahh :) ) and have again not done any hectic training, my 'theory / excuse' is I'm saving my feet and knees for my Camino :) seriously, this isn't a race... Buen Camino
Hi Carla, I am similarly challenged in the cartilage department and start my camino from St Jean around 15 May. I hope to go to Orisson on day1, and generally build up as I get more into it. Hope to see you on the way, buen Camino
 

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:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D...........
I'm laughing so much because there are those on this forum that apparently get way too worked up over spelling and grammatical errors on posts. I can't say I even notice it or honestly could care less about it. Life's too short you know....
Now I'm going to say it southern style. ;)

y'all needs to relax with all that readin writin and rithmatic stuff on this here forum cuz people jus tryin to ask questions and such about how to do that there walkin in the country y'all callin the camino....

cheers
Hi, Mark, I wish I walking alongside you on the Camino, you seem so balanced about things. Yeah, I'm just trying to ask questions about what to expect, I'm scared like many others, and we rely upon people like yourself for guidance and knowledge about how to proceed, with trust, hope and faith. God bless you for being for being not being part the herd, and saying how it really is, utmost respect! Cheers mate.
 
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Hi, Mark, I wish I walking alongside you on the Camino, you seem so balanced about things. Yeah, I'm just trying to ask questions about what to expect, I'm scared like many others, and we rely upon people like yourself for guidance and knowledge about how to proceed, with trust, hope and faith. God bless you for being for being not being part the herd, and saying how it really is, utmost respect! Cheers mate.
One thing I can tell you is that you are really going to enjoy the experience of walking the Camino. It's just a cool thing to do, and damn cheap way to see northern Spain.
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Hi, Mark, I wish I walking alongside you on the Camino, you seem so balanced about things. Yeah, I'm just trying to ask questions about what to expect, I'm scared like many others, and we rely upon people like yourself for guidance and knowledge about how to proceed, with trust, hope and faith. God bless you for being for being not being part the herd, and saying how it really is, utmost respect! Cheers mate.
Well Said!:)
 

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@Rob C we fly out on the 5th May and start walking (the Norte) about the 8th or 9th. Being quite ill last week took the stuffing out of me. As I can only remember one Camino when I felt prepared, it is situation normal. I'll try not to whinge too much during the first two weeks. Try.
 

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I cnduo't bvleiee taht I culod aulaclty uesdtannrd waht I was rdnaieg. Unisg the icndeblire pweor of the hmuan mnid, aocdcrnig to rseecrah at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mttaer in waht oderr the lterets in a wrod are, the olny irpoamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rhgit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whoutit a pboerlm. Tihs is bucseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey ltteer by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Aaznmig, huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghhuot slelinpg was ipmorantt! See if yuor fdreins can raed tihs too.

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Decades ago, when NASA first started putting men into space they were concerned about muscle wastage in zero gravity so they had a lot of work done on the best exercises. To their surprise they found that to exercise every day was incorrect and that exercising every other day made the body stronger without pain.

Works like this - exercise on one day breaks down the muscles, the rest day allows the muscles to rebuild themselves stronger than they were before day one. If one exercises every day the body doesn't have the time to properly rebuild them stronger. So - and I am assuming that NASA threw millions at this and got it right - all pre-Camino training should be on alternate days.
Also, it means that if one starts the Camino without training then one should only walk on alternate days until one is properly fit - which explains the high fallout around days 3 to 5 from St Jean.

RobC - three days to go for you so this is a little late! Walking along level (ish) terrain to pre-train isn't very good really as it is the ascents and descents that are difficult. Anyone reasonably in good condition can stroll along the level day after day - whether walking or cycling it is the muscles needed to haul you and your pack up thousands of feet on rough ground that need to be developed - and those descents! That is where the knees go wrong!!!!

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I cnduo't bvleiee taht I culod aulaclty uesdtannrd waht I was rdnaieg. Unisg the icndeblire pweor of the hmuan mnid, aocdcrnig to rseecrah at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mttaer in waht oderr the lterets in a wrod are, the olny irpoamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rhgit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whoutit a pboerlm. Tihs is bucseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey ltteer by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Aaznmig, huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghhuot slelinpg was ipmorantt! See if yuor fdreins can raed tihs too.

Suzanne :)
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Hello Carla, wow, what possible excuse can I use after reading this! I have so much respect for your courage and endurance, if ever I have heard of a way to do the Comino, this is it. You have somehow managed to eliminate any remaining fears I have about doing this. To do it for a second time means you got it so right the first time, I don't need convincing of that. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and I hope your Comino will be every bit as enjoyable as the last. With your permission, I would like to keep a copy of this with me, just to remind me of the spirit that one finds on the Comino, it just goes to prove that if you have it in your heart, the rest of the body will follow, in spite of our physical maladies. Buen Comino :)

Hi Rob ... reading through this forum, I believe that a large percentage of first timers have fears, doubts etc - I was exactly the same, had panic attacks about not finding shoes that felt right, a pack weight of 5.8kg that felt like 30kg, my body not doing what I wanted it to etc and it was the fabulous feedback from members on this forum that made me realise that we are all 'stronger' (in mind and body) than we think. Thank you for saying you respect my courage and endurance ... but my having done this is no feat compared to some of the people I met on my walk - a man in a wheelchair doing the Camino completely on his own, Patty (73) Sharon (74) who I walked with for a few days, Sharon with severe tendinitis and still got up each day and slowly walked tiny distances, the man with terminal cancer, the 78 year old lady who had walked all the was from Paris, the young man with a physical disability in his legs - now these people, have courage and endurance :) ...and yes, I'm more than happy for you to keep a copy of my note if it gives you some inspiration - and again Buen Camino
 

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I'm not even phased by the Camino and I've done a little less walking training than you have in the last month. More concerned about the other 7 walks I have after ;)
 

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Hi Carla, I am similarly challenged in the cartilage department and start my camino from St Jean around 15 May. I hope to go to Orisson on day1, and generally build up as I get more into it. Hope to see you on the way, buen Camino
hi Peter - our start dates are so close, we probably will meet up along the way - Buen Camino to you too
 

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Hi all. I'm leaving on 26th April 2015 to start my first Comino on 29th, I have heard that it's quite important to rest before you start, can anyone please tell me what is the suggested rest period? or do I need to train right up until the time I leave? I have been in training now since 12th March 2015, with little to no training prior to that, my training is as follows with 8kg backpack and boots: 12th Mar 21.14km = 13m, 14th Mar 21.62km = 13m, 15th Mar 19.05km = 11m, 18th Mar 18.24km = 11m, 20th Mar 20.88km = 12m, 22nd Mar 18.88km = 11m, 25th Mar 35.37km = 21m, 04th Apr 20.13km = 12m, 05th Apr 23.06km = 14m, 06th Apr 20.36km = 12m, 08th Apr 14.25km = 8m, 09th Apr 21.06km = 13m, 13th Apr 24.06km = 15m, 15th Apr 31.82km = 19m, 18th Apr 18.87km = 11m, 20th Apr 20.47km = 12m. 70% of this has been over fairly flat terrain with a few ascents thrown in, I know it's a bit late to change anything now, but is this sufficient training to walk the Comino? Many thanks

Hi Rob, you are the first person I read about who is starting on the 29th; the same date I'll start. :)
Last year I walked a part of the Frances and with this experiance I can tell that walking as a pelgrim is quit different as training for your camino. It will be allright. I think you've trained well. The first part is a heavy, but the second day is much more difficult, because you are still tired because of the day before. You just have to listen to the signals your body gives to you. Rest when you are tired, walk when you feel you can and enjoy it. Hope to see you!
( Sorry that my English perhaps is not that good, I'm from the Netherlands and writing English is not what I do all day...)
 
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One thing I can tell you is that you are really going to enjoy the experience of walking the Camino. It's just a cool thing to do, and damn cheap way to see northern Spain.
cheers
Cheers Mark, I just can't wait now for Sunday to come and head off to the airport, excitement is really kicking now, thank you for all your help and advice.
 

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Decades ago, when NASA first started putting men into space they were concerned about muscle wastage in zero gravity so they had a lot of work done on the best exercises. To their surprise they found that to exercise every day was incorrect and that exercising every other day made the body stronger without pain.

Works like this - exercise on one day breaks down the muscles, the rest day allows the muscles to rebuild themselves stronger than they were before day one. If one exercises every day the body doesn't have the time to properly rebuild them stronger. So - and I am assuming that NASA threw millions at this and got it right - all pre-Camino training should be on alternate days.
Also, it means that if one starts the Camino without training then one should only walk on alternate days until one is properly fit - which explains the high fallout around days 3 to 5 from St Jean.

RobC - three days to go for you so this is a little late! Walking along level (ish) terrain to pre-train isn't very good really as it is the ascents and descents that are difficult. Anyone reasonably in good condition can stroll along the level day after day - whether walking or cycling it is the muscles needed to haul you and your pack up thousands of feet on rough ground that need to be developed - and those descents! That is where the knees go wrong!!!!

Buen Camino on the 26th!!
Hi David, this is very interesting. I talked to a gym instructor many years ago and he was telling me about the top body builders taking steroids, he said it's not the steroids that make you big, it's the fact that they repair the muscle tissues so that you can train every day instead of every other day as you quoted. In hindsight, I do wish I had more more hills and less distance, I did the coastal path in Dorset, UK which is quite a climb in places and to make it easier, I just kept reciting in my head 'relax' and I took smaller steps and used more of a bounce technique and slowed my pace, I must say it made a real difference.

I've been using my poles which has been fabulous and sometimes it feels like someone is behind me giving me a gentle push, I've become really attached to them. Thank you for your reply.
 

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Hi Rob ... reading through this forum, I believe that a large percentage of first timers have fears, doubts etc - I was exactly the same, had panic attacks about not finding shoes that felt right, a pack weight of 5.8kg that felt like 30kg, my body not doing what I wanted it to etc and it was the fabulous feedback from members on this forum that made me realise that we are all 'stronger' (in mind and body) than we think. Thank you for saying you respect my courage and endurance ... but my having done this is no feat compared to some of the people I met on my walk - a man in a wheelchair doing the Camino completely on his own, Patty (73) Sharon (74) who I walked with for a few days, Sharon with severe tendinitis and still got up each day and slowly walked tiny distances, the man with terminal cancer, the 78 year old lady who had walked all the was from Paris, the young man with a physical disability in his legs - now these people, have courage and endurance :) ...and yes, I'm more than happy for you to keep a copy of my note if it gives you some inspiration - and again Buen Camino
Hi Carla, those panic attacks are not nice, I've had a few of them over my kit, changed rucksack just a few days ago because I couldn't see the one I had lasting the trek, the new one is much heavier than the last one, so on came the attack :eek: I'm in awe when I read about people's ages and abilities who do the Camino, but it doesn't deter them, I can't wait to meet and talk with some of them, they must be such an inspiration. I know quite a few people who have simply given up when they acquired a form of disability, but not these guys, real heroes. Thank you for letting me keep your reply, I'm sure when there will be moments when I'll want to quit and this will be fuel for my fire. Buen Camino.
 

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I'm not even phased by the Camino and I've done a little less walking training than you have in the last month. More concerned about the other 7 walks I have after ;)
I hope to feel that way at some point, I watch a video on Youtube where a guy called Mark from Australia said when he had 150kms left to go "if you would have told me at the start that I would walk 150kms, I would have told you you were crazy, now 150kms seems nothing", incredible how the Comino does that, strengthens your mind and body. Wow, 7 walks after the Camino seems to far out there for me to imagine, but good luck and thank you.
 
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Hi Rob, you are the first person I read about who is starting on the 29th; the same date I'll start. :)
Last year I walked a part of the Frances and with this experiance I can tell that walking as a pelgrim is quit different as training for your camino. It will be allright. I think you've trained well. The first part is a heavy, but the second day is much more difficult, because you are still tired because of the day before. You just have to listen to the signals your body gives to you. Rest when you are tired, walk when you feel you can and enjoy it. Hope to see you!
( Sorry that my English perhaps is not that good, I'm from the Netherlands and writing English is not what I do all day...)
Hello Greetje, that's great! I have looked for other's starting on this date and your the first I have come across, I suppose that's good news from an alburge point of view :) I'm really pleased that you said it's quite a different experience from training because more often than not, I get the same scenery walking back, so I am looking forward to setting off without having to return to the place where I started. Thank you for your comment on my training, means a lot to hear that. I did wonder what it would be like to walk a few days in a row, so Easter weekend I did three days, and although it was nothing like the terrain you find on the Camino, I did find it a challenge so I'm sure I will feel a rawness on the second day. I agree, I think there's a nasty tag to pick up if you ignore what your body is trying to tell you, and it's okay to rest as often as necessary, it may well appear to some as a sign of weakness? but to me ...it's wisdom. haha. Your English is fine and your spelling is equally as good as mine, trust me. I hope to see you too, you'll recognise me with a red sunglasses band which say's WALES in white on it, can't imagine there being too many of them around :cool: Buen Camino
 

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To me it is more about six 25 km segments than 150 kms. Twenty-five kilometers seems tractable when 150kms is daunting.;)
Absolutely. I've thought about breaking it down into 5km segments during each day, my head can just about cope with that. I think he was just trying to make a point on the video that the further you go, the easier it gets, but please don't quote me on that, it maybe selective hearing on my part ;)
 

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5km segments? Hmmm, thats from cafe to cafe....if lucky :)
 

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Hi Rob, you are the first person I read about who is starting on the 29th; the same date I'll start. :)
Last year I walked a part of the Frances and with this experiance I can tell that walking as a pelgrim is quit different as training for your camino. It will be allright. I think you've trained well. The first part is a heavy, but the second day is much more difficult, because you are still tired because of the day before. You just have to listen to the signals your body gives to you. Rest when you are tired, walk when you feel you can and enjoy it. Hope to see you!
( Sorry that my English perhaps is not that good, I'm from the Netherlands and writing English is not what I do all day...)
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Hello Greetje, that's great! I have looked for other's starting on this date and your the first I have come across, I suppose that's good news from an alburge point of view :) I'm really pleased that you said it's quite a different experience from training because more often than not, I get the same scenery walking back, so I am looking forward to setting off without having to return to the place where I started. Thank you for your comment on my training, means a lot to hear that. I did wonder what it would be like to walk a few days in a row, so Easter weekend I did three days, and although it was nothing like the terrain you find on the Camino, I did find it a challenge so I'm sure I will feel a rawness on the second day. I agree, I think there's a nasty tag to pick up if you ignore what your body is trying to tell you, and it's okay to rest as often as necessary, it may well appear to some as a sign of weakness? but to me ...it's wisdom. haha. Your English is fine and your spelling is equally as good as mine, trust me. I hope to see you too, you'll recognise me with a red sunglasses band which say's WALES in white on it, can't imagine there being too many of them around :cool: Buen Camino[/QUOTE
Hello Greetje, that's great! I have looked for other's starting on this date and your the first I have come across, I suppose that's good news from an alburge point of view :) I'm really pleased that you said it's quite a different experience from training because more often than not, I get the same scenery walking back, so I am looking forward to setting off without having to return to the place where I started. Thank you for your comment on my training, means a lot to hear that. I did wonder what it would be like to walk a few days in a row, so Easter weekend I did three days, and although it was nothing like the terrain you find on the Camino, I did find it a challenge so I'm sure I will feel a rawness on the second day. I agree, I think there's a nasty tag to pick up if you ignore what your body is trying to tell you, and it's okay to rest as often as necessary, it may well appear to some as a sign of weakness? but to me ...it's wisdom. haha. Your English is fine and your spelling is equally as good as mine, trust me. I hope to see you too, you'll recognise me with a red sunglasses band which say's WALES in white on it, can't imagine there being too many of them around :cool: Buen Camino
Hi Greetja, my apologies, I just received a reply from Leah which reminded me that she is also leaving on SJPPP on 29th, as I got more and more into this post, it went completely out of my head o_O I'm so pleased to hear that you have touched ground with her. Hope to say 'Hi' to you both really soon :)
 
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Hi Greetja, my apologies, I just received a reply from Leah which reminded me that she is also leaving on SJPPP on 29th, as I got more and more into this post, it went completely out of my head o_O I'm so pleased to hear that you have touched ground with her. Hope to say 'Hi' to you both really soon :)
Hi Rob, yeah, I also received a note from LeahShe stays in the same hostell as I do, the first night. That makes three on the way...
I've been thinking how you could recognize me, but there are no specific signs in my apperance Just look over for a very happy looking lady having a stonered backpack see you soon! Greetje.
 

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Hi Rob, yeah, I also received a note from LeahShe stays in the same hostell as I do, the first night. That makes three on the way...
I've been thinking how you could recognize me, but there are no specific signs in my apperance Just look over for a very happy looking lady having a stonered backpack see you soon! Greetje.
Hi Greetja, haha, I'm sure there will be many happy looking ladies, but I'll keep my eye out for one with the 'stonered backpack' :) I noticed you are staying in the same hostel as Leah, that's great, isn't it fabulous that we can get an opportunity to message each other before we all show up. I did panic a little earlier thinking that maybe I should have booked my first night, but mspath put me right on that, I was very relieved to get that reply. Buen Camino and see you soon.
 

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Hi hi Rob C, Greetja et al
An observation which may help calm the nerves. When walking on the Camino my feet ached but the rest of me was fine.
On Tuesday gone I had a walk up and down Helm Crag near Grasmere. By the end my knees and ankles were giving me problems. ( Helm Crag is a tiny little hill.)

I'd say that on the Camino you're joints won't take the same punishment as they do on a day on the fells. Plus you'll be carried along by all the new experiences and friends that you'll meet.
Buen Camino
 

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Hi hi Rob C, Greetja et al
An observation which may help calm the nerves. When walking on the Camino my feet ached but the rest of me was fine.
On Tuesday gone I had a walk up and down Helm Crag near Grasmere. By the end my knees and ankles were giving me problems. ( Helm Crag is a tiny little hill.)

I'd say that on the Camino you're joints won't take the same punishment as they do on a day on the fells. Plus you'll be carried along by all the new experiences and friends that you'll meet.
Buen Camino
Thank you Introibo, that's very reassuring to hear. I think you made a good point by mentioning new friends and experiences, during all my days training, I never came across another hiker, it was rather lonely up in them there hills, it will be great, and comforting, to see so many sharing the same experience, I can't wait. I haven't yet had the experience, but I imagine when your in conversation, it will take the mind a little off what's going on physically?

The Lake District is on my 'to do list'.
 

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Hi all. I'm leaving on 26th April 2015 to start my first Comino on 29th, I have heard that it's quite important to rest before you start, can anyone please tell me what is the suggested rest period? or do I need to train right up until the time I leave? I have been in training now since 12th March 2015, with little to no training prior to that, my training is as follows with 8kg backpack and boots: 12th Mar 21.14km = 13m, 14th Mar 21.62km = 13m, 15th Mar 19.05km = 11m, 18th Mar 18.24km = 11m, 20th Mar 20.88km = 12m, 22nd Mar 18.88km = 11m, 25th Mar 35.37km = 21m, 04th Apr 20.13km = 12m, 05th Apr 23.06km = 14m, 06th Apr 20.36km = 12m, 08th Apr 14.25km = 8m, 09th Apr 21.06km = 13m, 13th Apr 24.06km = 15m, 15th Apr 31.82km = 19m, 18th Apr 18.87km = 11m, 20th Apr 20.47km = 12m. 70% of this has been over fairly flat terrain with a few ascents thrown in, I know it's a bit late to change anything now, but is this sufficient training to walk the Comino? Many thanks
Loved to read this tread ! I'll start my "comino" :p next tuesday and now I decided to train (the days before the start ) the "hand grip" to hold a glass of cold beer .let the camino come as it comes. I am ready for it !
Buen camino everybody I had some good laughs here !

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Hi Greetja, my apologies, I just received a reply from Leah which reminded me that she is also leaving on SJPPP on 29th, as I got more and more into this post, it went completely out of my head o_O I'm so pleased to hear that you have touched ground with her. Hope to say 'Hi' to you both really soon :)
Hey Rob -- I will be arriving SJPdP on May 29 and heading out on Sat. May 30. May see you along the way!
Buen Camino!!
 

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Loved to read this tread ! I'll start my "comino" :p next tuesday and now I decided to train (the days before the start ) the "hand grip" to hold a glass of cold beer .let the camino come as it comes. I am ready for it !
Buen camino everybody I had some good laughs here !

Hi Albertinho and thank you. Firstly, Buen Camino for next Tuesday, you sound like quite a character, I hope I get to say 'hi' to you at some stage. Secondly, I've been training my "hand grip" a little recently too in preparation. I'm pleased you got some good laughs, puts a smile on my face to think I bring merriment to others :)
 

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Hey Rob -- I will be arriving SJPdP on May 29 and heading out on Sat. May 30. May see you along the way!
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Hi Andrea, thank you for your post. I will be setting out in the morning of the 29th but I'm sure we will meet at some point, I will look forward to saying 'Hello' :) Buen Camino
 

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5km segments? Hmmm, thats from cafe to cafe....if lucky :)
So my proposition of training the muscles of the hand to hold your pint is not a bad idea !
 

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Hope to meet you somewhere too Rob and we'll drink a pint together and compare the trained "handgrips " :)
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I will look forward to that very much, I must warn you though, I treated myself to a pair of Leki's recently so my grip is awesome :) I hope we get the opportunity, you sound such fun, Buen Camino
 

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So my proposition of training the muscles of the hand to hold your pint is not a bad idea !
As Rob clearly knows, this is one of the side effects of using walking poles properly. The arm muscles are are properly toned, the wrists are strong and flexible, and the fingers are supple. More, if you are using two poles, both hands are equally well prepared for the task of gently but firmly bringing a full glass to the lips.
 

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As Rob clearly knows, this is one of the side effects of using walking poles properly. The arm muscles are are properly toned, the wrists are strong and flexible, and the fingers are supple. More, if you are using two poles, both hands are equally well prepared for the task of gently but firmly bringing a full glass to the lips.
So Doug that means " killing two birds with one stone ":p
 

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As Rob clearly knows, this is one of the side effects of using walking poles properly. The arm muscles are are properly toned, the wrists are strong and flexible, and the fingers are supple. More, if you are using two poles, both hands are equally well prepared for the task of gently but firmly bringing a full glass to the lips.
What can I say dougfitz, but accept this is total equilibrium.
 
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I will look forward to that very much, I must warn you though, I treated myself to a pair of Leki's recently so my grip is awesome :) I hope we get the opportunity, you sound such fun, Buen Camino
that would be great. I am a Leki fan myself . used them on two camino's and one Dutch long distance path and they are allready packed in the backpacks to be checked in on the monday next midday flight to Porto Portugal.

Ha ha this reminds me to a discussion with Dougfitz last year about airliners.
I was suspicious about Ryanair and Transavia-you remember that Doug ?-
We fly with budget airliner Ryanair this time:D I believe we even have to pay for a pee on board the plane :p
 
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Sorry for seeming a bit dim, but can you please expand on "killing two birds with one stone?
Training the handmuscles is good for the grip holding a Leki and a glass of beer.
The Dutch saying is "you hit two flies at once". :D

Buen camino
 

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As Rob clearly knows, this is one of the side effects of using walking poles properly. The arm muscles are are properly toned, the wrists are strong and flexible, and the fingers are supple. More, if you are using two poles, both hands are equally well prepared for the task of gently but firmly bringing a full glass to the lips.
In fact dougfizt, Rob does clarly not know
As Rob clearly knows, this is one of the side effects of using walking poles properly. The arm muscles are are properly toned, the wrists are strong and flexible, and the fingers are supple. More, if you are using two poles, both hands are equally well prepared for the task of gently but firmly bringing a full glass to the lips.
Sorry dougfitz
As Rob clearly knows, this is one of the side effects of using walking poles properly. The arm muscles are are properly toned, the wrists are strong and flexible, and the fingers are supple. More, if you are using two poles, both hands are equally well prepared for the task of gently but firmly bringing a full glass to the lips.
Forgive me dougfitz if I'm out of order by this response, I know nothing! Your reply seems a little patronising. I'm not sure what I have done to to offend you, but I apologise. As I stated, my poles are new to me so why on earth would you assume that I clearly know how to use them properly is beyond me? I can only accept this a piss-take, please forgive if I'm wrong.
 

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that would be great. I am a Leki fan myself . used them on two camino's and one Dutch long distant path and they are allready packed in the backpacks to be checked in on the monday next midday flight to Porto Portugal.

Ha ha this reminds me to a discussion with Dougfitz last year about airliners.
I was suspicious about Ryanair and Transavia-you remember that Doug ?-
We fly with budget airliner Ryanair this time:D I believe we even have to pay for a pee on board the plane :p
 

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I will look forward to that very much, I must warn you though, I treated myself to a pair of Leki's recently so my grip is awesome :) I hope we get the opportunity, you sound such fun, Buen Camino

@Rob C, I was making a reference to this post. I took it from this that you had some appreciation that regular pole use not only relieves the pressure on the lower joints, it also tones the upper body, and will result in a stronger grip. Hence @Albertinho's comment about killing two birds with one stone - an idiom that expresses the concept that you have achieved two things in one action.
 
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@Rob C, if you weren't given some instruction on how to use poles properly when you bought them, there are many useful discussions on this elsewhere on the forum, or you could go to somewhere like Pete's Pole Page which is one of the original web resources on this topic, and still one of the best.
 

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Good to know your a Leki fan :) I must say I have become so dependent upon poles, whether their healthy or not, I don't know, but they work for me, so I'm happy. I did wonder about the airlines, but thankfully I have a purchased a transformer bag that fits both rucksack and poles into one neat bag. I will pee out the window if that's the case :) Thanks Albertinho.
 

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@Rob C, if you weren't given some instruction on how to use poles properly when you bought them, there are many useful discussions on this elsewhere on the forum, or you could go to somewhere like Pete's Pole Page which is one of the original web resources on this topic, and still one of the best.
My sincere apologies dougfitz, I can confirm that using my poles have certainly been an advantage, a shove when trekking uphill and a stabilizer when going downhill, even walking on even paths, it gives you a momentum and makes you feel like your in control. I bought a cheap pair on the sale from Mountain Warehouse, but Leki which I purchased recently, really takes the biscuit, please accept my apologies. Unfortunately, I wasn't given instructions as I bought them of ebay.
 

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My sincere apologies dougfitz, I can confirm that using my poles have certainly been an advantage, a shove when trekking uphill and a stabilizer when going downhill, even walking on even paths, it gives you a momentum and makes you feel like your in control. I bought a cheap pair on the sale from Mountain Warehouse, but Leki which I purchased recently, really takes the biscuit, please accept my apologies. Unfortunately, I wasn't given instructions as I bought them of ebay.
We use them also to keep away mean dogs which are trying biting in your calves :oops: we obviously allways attract these little terrors when we pass by.
In the perception of these creatures we must look like a kind of allien with four legs -our own and the Leki's and when it rains it even must look worse with our Altus raincoats. these dogs must think " hey there go two Quasimodo's two lost hunchbacks of the Notre Dame ! :p
 

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We use them also to keep away mean dogs which are trying biting in your calves :oops: we obviously allways attract these little terrors when we pass by.
In the perception of these creatures we must look like a kind of allien with four legs -our own and the Leki's and when it rains it even must look worse with our Altus raincoats. these dogs must think " hey there go two Quasimodo's two lost hunchbacks of the Notre Dame ! :p
Mmmm, I've not had that experience, and not sure that dogs actually think that way? You have a point though, although I'm not sure that 'whacking' dogs' was my primary purpose for getting the poles? I can see your point about protecting yourself. I'm not a dog lover, but I'm not a dog hater either, and I certainly wouldn't hurt one unless he was seriously out to hurt me, an Alsatian, Bull Terrier, Rottweiler or Doberman perhaps? but I would struggle to raise my poles to anything less than that. Maybe I'm being a bit naive?
 
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Mmmm, I've not had that experience, and not sure that dogs actually think that way? You have a point though, although I'm not sure that 'whacking' dogs' was my primary purpose for getting the poles? I can see your point about protecting yourself. I'm not a dog lover, but I'm not a dog hater either, and I certainly wouldn't hurt one unless he was seriously out to hurt me, an Alsatian, Bull Terrier, Rottweiler or Doberman perhaps? but I would struggle to raise my poles to anything less than that. Maybe I'm being a bit naive?

I have been chased, and attacked, by different breeds and sizes of dogs, but the only dog that ever actually bit a significant chunk out of me was a dachshund. I was in his territory.
 
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One caution about sailing along at a good clip with poles and a pack on your back...if you trip, the pace and momentum can launch you into the Camino incredibly quickly. I came down like a tree outside of Logrono...and it happened so fast that there was no time to protect myself in any way. So I landed directly on my face. I've never felt anything like it before, but fortunately there were no rocks to land on. The resulting black eye was quite a technicolor sight for a long time afterwards, much to the sympathetic amusement of my fellow peregrinos...not your usual conversation starter, but it worked! :D
 

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@Rob C, if you weren't given some instruction on how to use poles properly when you bought them, there are many useful discussions on this elsewhere on the forum, or you could go to somewhere like Pete's Pole Page which is one of the original web resources on this topic, and still one of the best.
Thank you dougfitz, the link was really useful, it explains everything,
 

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I have been chased, and attacked, by different breeds and sizes of dogs, but the only dog that ever actually bit a significant chunk out of me was a dachshund. I was in his territory.
I must say I haven't had such an experience, must have been terrifying for you, Dachshund's are quite large dogs.
 

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Mmmm, I've not had that experience, and not sure that dogs actually think that way? You have a point though, although I'm not sure that 'whacking' dogs' was my primary purpose for getting the poles? I can see your point about protecting yourself. I'm not a dog lover, but I'm not a dog hater either, and I certainly wouldn't hurt one unless he was seriously out to hurt me, an Alsatian, Bull Terrier, Rottweiler or Doberman perhaps? but I would struggle to raise my poles to anything less than that. Maybe I'm being a bit naive?
Wait till you are on the camino Rob !
As Albertagirl says , it are not the big ones but the loose little terrors They off course defend their territory but even then you have to take care of your calves.
We do not hurt them either but at times the poles can be handy for some threatening and different purposes:D Let me give you another example. Once we were in a Portugese hostal on a hot sweaty day. In the room fitted-with emphasis on fitted- a bed We just could lay in it...two backpacks on the ground and it was completely full. 30€ per night !:p the door of the wardrobe turned into the "room" and in one corner was a shower cabin. Where to leave the freshed washed and wet dripping cloths ? Yes.... The tip on the top of the door, the grip of the pole on top of the shower cabin and "voila ! Dry cloths next morning. On the internet the other day I saw a gadget, a device to put on the tip side of the pole. You can mount your Gopro- who nowadays is going on camino without a Gopro ? - on one of your poles and you have a selfie stick ! The world cannot exist without a selfie nowadays :)

Anyone else has an example of what you can do with pacer poles ? Looking forward. Maybe I can learn something too and... Next week they will be my mates for 3 weeks so I can try out your propositions inmediately.

Interesting post by the way @Rob C !


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