Retro/old camino photos

[Togabogie]

As someone who likes all art history etc and photos, is there any access to a library to old camino photographs of pilgrims/alberques / well known sites of the way available i.e 60s/70s onwards?? Ime guessing there werent many pilgrims with cameras then but just wondering!

 

[Tincatinker]

Try the CSJ in London. Or have a search for Piers Nicholson’s stuff - Santiago-Compostela.net and elsewhere.

 

[Togabogie]

Try the CSJ in London. Or have a search for Piers Nicholson’s stuff - Santiago-Compostela.net and elsewhere.

Ile check it out thank you

 

[mspath]

For those interested in "how it once looked" check out the images in this 1963 Spanish newsreel showing three male pilgrims in capes walking from Burgos to Fromista along a barren windy meseta path. >> http://www.elcaminosantiago.com/Camino- ... n-1963.htm. Perhaps these atmospheric black and white images helped influence Luis Bunuel's famous 1969 fantastic film The Milky Way/La Via Lactee which depicts two pilgrims walking back through time along the camino.

For additional earlier views check out the various posts in this earlier thread

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/camino-franc%C3%A9s-in-the-1980s.18850/

Happy research!

 

[SYates]

For those interested in "how it once looked" check out the images in this 1963 Spanish newsreel showing three male pilgrims in capes walking from Burgos to Fromista along a barren windy meseta path. >> http://www.elcaminosantiago.com/Camino- ... n-1963.htm.
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I get an error message when trying that link
BC SY

 

[mspath]

Sorry about the error! The newsreel is visible in this earlier post

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/1963-pilgrimage.29806/

 

[Kathar1na]

I get an error message when trying that link

Same here. It looks like a browser problem with playing mp4 files and I'm already fed up with trying to fix it. So I put Peregrinación 1963 into the YouTube search field. Not only did I get the short video that @mspath has mentioned but also several movies from the Spanish public broadcaster RTVE about the Camino de Santiago. One from January 1955 and another one from January 1970. I find them very interesting. It may not be what the OP is looking for as it doesn't have any people walking with a backpack but it shows how present the Camino de Santiago and its patrimony and heritage was in the collective consciousness in Spain in the 1950s to 1970s, long before most of us had ever heard of it.

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/documentales-color/camino-santiago/2892519/ (1970)
http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/documentales-b-n/camino-santiago/2845385/ (1955)

 

[Togabogie]

I get an error message when trying that link
BC SY

Sorry about the error! The newsreel is visible in this earlier post

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/1963-pilgrimage.29806/

Same here. It looks like a browser problem with playing mp4 files and I'm already fed up with trying to fix it. So I put Peregrinación 1963 into the YouTube search field. Not only did I get the short video that @mspath has mentioned but also several movies from the Spanish public broadcaster RTVE about the Camino de Santiago. One from January 1955 and another one from January 1970. I find them very interesting. It may not be what the OP is looking for as it doesn't have any people walking with a backpack but it shows how present the Camino de Santiago and its patrimony and heritage was in the collective consciousness in Spain in the 1950s to 1970s, long before most of us had ever heard of it.

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/documentales-color/camino-santiago/2892519/ (1970)
http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/documentales-b-n/camino-santiago/2845385/ (1955)

Ok thank you all for taking the time in answering my question, ive just received those there now so will check out those when i finish work

 

[Togabogie]

Yes great stuff and love it !! Very interesting!! Ide like to thank all of those to take time and reply to my message times have changed on the camino but the spirit is still the same!!

 

[Togabogie]

Sorry about the error! The newsreel is visible in this earlier post

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/1963-pilgrimage.29806/

I cant understand the spanish but were the perigrinos priests or just pilgrims?? Loved the black cloaks with the shell that we all carry!! Interesting how st james was revered so much compared to other saints , i must check all that out!

 

[Togabogie]

Same here. It looks like a browser problem with playing mp4 files and I'm already fed up with trying to fix it. So I put Peregrinación 1963 into the YouTube search field. Not only did I get the short video that @mspath has mentioned but also several movies from the Spanish public broadcaster RTVE about the Camino de Santiago. One from January 1955 and another one from January 1970. I find them very interesting. It may not be what the OP is looking for as it doesn't have any people walking with a backpack but it shows how present the Camino de Santiago and its patrimony and heritage was in the collective consciousness in Spain in the 1950s to 1970s, long before most of us had ever heard of it.

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/documentales-color/camino-santiago/2892519/ (1970)
http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/documentales-b-n/camino-santiago/2845385/ (1955)

Yes thats what ime talking about katherina thank you

 

[Kathar1na]

I cant understand the spanish but were the perigrinos priests or just pilgrims??

I had been waiting for @mspath to answer as she is very knowledgeable in these things and knows where the links are but now my lack of patience is getting the better of me . The three pioneering peregrinos of the year 1963 were members of the Camino Association in Estella. Here is an overview of the story in Spanish but Google Translate or another machine translation can give you the gist of it.

A few quotes:

Anyone wishing to know how the mass phenomenon of today's Camino de Santiago began must look to Estella. It was in this town that we formed the second Association of Friends of the Camino de Santiago worldwide. The first such association had been established thirteen years earlier in Paris (Société des Amis de Saint-Jacques de Compostelle). Our association was the first to carry out work to recover the Way taken by pilgrims of the past, to make the Way known to a wider public, and to lay the foundations for rehabilitating and recovering its extremely rich artistic, cultural and spiritual heritage.​

In 1963, three young members of our association set out to cover the almost 800 km from Roncesvalles to Santiago, investigating the original pilgrim route and drawing up reports on future pilgrims' needs, the state of the route and the infrastructure and service offer in the villages. In particular, they set out to indicate places where it would be convenient to build fountains, service stations for cars, hotels, inns etc etc.​

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We can say, without exaggeration, that Estella, a town that had been created in the 11th century to serve the Camino de Santiago, laid the foundations for the modern pilgrimage.​

Translated with the help of www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

 

[Kathar1na]

In 1963, three young members of our association set out to cover the almost 800 km from Roncesvalles to Santiago

I see now that one of them was actually a priest at the time but he left the priesthood later to become a full-time historian and author.

 

[David Tallan]

In particular, they set out to indicate places where it would be convenient to build fountains, service stations for cars, hotels, inns etc etc.​

Translated with the help of www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

It is interesting that, although these three pilgrims walked the route, the initial idea of pilgrimages on the Camino seems to have been more inclusive of those done by car than is now the case, as is evidenced by scouting out where the service stations should go to support pilgrims.

 

[Togabogie]

had been waiting for @mspath to answer as she is very knowledgeable in these things and knows where the links are but now my lack of patience is getting the better of me

Patience is a virtue,
Possess it if you can,
Rarely found in a woman,
But NEVER in a man!!
Sorry youre sentence made me think of that old saying!!
Thanks for youre knowledge kathar1na, i find the history of the camino is potentially fascinating!! not only the obvious religious history ,but logistics, structure,planning, war and politics ime sure played a part of influence over the centuries and something which i shall have to research and look into
Funnily enough i loved estella and the whole feel of the place but only stayed the 1 night in it obviously and didnt know the importance of it in relevance to the camino association.