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Hi, only shampoo will do you can use it for everything.Ok this seems simple enough to solve but its like i can't!
What do people do about shampoo and conditioner? I dont want to cart around two big bottles/extra weight. But i need it! (I dont do shampoo and cond in one)
Do i get smaller bottles and re-fill? Do i just buy extra along the way and refill and leave the rest behind? Maybe i just solved my own dilemma right there?
Haha i definitely need conditioner. Im a girl with a hell of a lot of hair on my head, it will be completely unmanageable and a knotted mess without it. Girl problems..!Hi, only shampoo will do you can use it for everything.
Wish you well and a Buen Camino, Peter.
Camino fact; "Definitely need" might just change in value when you are exposed to other problems walking the Camino. Expect the unexpected, be surprsed by everything.... after a wee while you might not bother.....Haha i definitely need conditioner. Im a girl with a hell of a lot of hair on my head, it will be completely unmanageable and a knotted mess without it. Girl problems..!
Dr. Bronner's soap bars are good for everything body, hair and laundry. A bar has lasted me about 1 1/2 months traveling.My hands-down, all-time favorite is Dr. Bronner’s Pure-Castile soap, in their 2 oz. bottle. Two ounces doesn’t sound like much, but during my 20 days on the Camino Frances last summer I still had a tiny bit left over when I returned home. Dr. Bronner’s advertises on their bottle all kinds of uses for the soap. I use it to sanitize hands and showering/shampooing and it’s great for washing clothes, but I draw the line at using it as my toothpaste, which they advise.
Also, Dr. Bronner’s soaps come in a wide variety of scents, from peppermint to hemp and lavender, or un-scented. Something for everyone.
Even reading the bottle is entertaining.
I always keep liquids in a re-closeable plastic bag (ziplock). As S Yates says, a little can make a real mess in your pack.
Solid condtioner? Would love to learn more about it. Thank you'Before my 2014 camino I tested using Dr Bronners soap as my bath soap, shampoo and laundry soap. For my hair it failed in the shampoo dept (but fine for bath and laundry), leaving my hair gummy after a week's worth of washing. I have found a solid conditioner that i LOVE and know that the "sample size" will last me 3 weeks. Still looking for a solid shampoo that I like for my hair. Hmmm, maybe I can just put my favorite shampoo in my dehydrator??
I'll PM you the Etsy vendor I use.Solid condtioner? Would love to learn more about it. Thank you'
You girls and your frizzy hair and your need for conditioner to 'tame' it.
Can I just say that I think you look beautiful with your frizzy hair.
I think you look 100% better that way.
Regards
Gerard
PM me too please. Thanks!I'll PM you the Etsy vendor I use.
Well, she has good taste in perfume and products. I see Si by Armani, the excellent eye makeup remover by LancomeI took this photo in October 2015 on the dining table at Orisson. Truth!!!! A pilgrim had arrived after the hike up from SJPP, totally exhausted from the weight of her backpack. She was a good sport and we laughed hysterically about her collection of beauty products in glass bottles. Needless to say, we helped her abandon a good part (she tried to give it away but nobody would accept) and arrange for a few kilos of stuff to be transported to Roncesvalles the next day. That was the beginning of several great friendships!
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@Damien Reynolds , what girl would not fall for a boy who understands her hair issues? Mind you, having a Miss San Diego as a sister in law might intimidate a few.
Just make sure they hear you being so comprehensive with your sister. Less creepy, but effective I'm sure.Understanding hair issues requires more intimacy than is usually prescribed on a daily hike and nightly bedbunking. Works with sisters, but takes a while with the average camino acquaintance.
Depending on your hair type: some have hair that can wash and wear; but my hair become drier and drier (bigger and bigger) as the trek went on. I couldn't find good conditioner, so I pulled back the "rag mop" and trekked on.Ok this seems simple enough to solve but its like i can't!
What do people do about shampoo and conditioner? I dont want to cart around two big bottles/extra weight. But i need it! (I dont do shampoo and cond in one)
Do i get smaller bottles and re-fill? Do i just buy extra along the way and refill and leave the rest behind? Maybe i just solved my own dilemma right there?
Amen sisterHaha i definitely need conditioner. Im a girl with a hell of a lot of hair on my head, it will be completely unmanageable and a knotted mess without it. Girl problems..!
Real answer for real curiosity: if the hair has a tendency to get very dry and/or fizzy, it needs the conditioner to be able to comb it and manage whatever way, be it free, ponytail, bun, little braids. Or it will behave and look like straw hair of a scarecrow, all up in every direction, with tangles. And no, its not cute, thats the look of a fairytale witch. Plus it damages the hair, it splits and breaks off. Repairing long hair may take years - till its completely changed. Cutting it short may work for Camino, but growing back to considerable length may also take years or depending on age be impossible at all.Fascinating reading - I don't know anything about this sort of thing at all ... my bath has a bar of soap and a plastic bottle of some generic cheap supermarket shampoo next to it. I keep my hair clipper-No.2 short .. what is left of it). When my daughter visited from Los Angeles last year I counted, after just three days, 38 containers of various "necessary" items in there ....
So, stupid question, but, does it actually matter if it becomes 'dry'? I mean, hair is dead anyway isn't it? Can't one just plait it into pigtails or similar? Not trying to get a rise here, this is genuine curiosity -
and .. well, on the adverts they talk about various ingredients .. so cannot one just go direct? Buy a bottle of beer once a week and use that? Or an advocado .. or lubricate it with olive oil ? (the Romans did that) ... things like that? Or am I being really dumb here?
- or - what about cane-row braids? Then you don't even need to think about it at all? (and it looks seriously cool too).
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Real answer for real curiosity: if the hair has a tendency to get very dry and/or fizzy, it needs the conditioner to be able to comb it and manage whatever way, be it free, ponytail, bun, little braids. Or it will behave and look like straw hair of a scarecrow, all up in every direction, with tangles. And no, its not cute, thats the look of a fairytale witch. Plus it damages the hair, it splits and breaks off. Repairing long hair may take years - till its completely changed. Cutting it short may work for Camino, but growing back to considerable length may also take years or depending on age be impossible at all.
David, you actually asked men about this?p.p.s - those before and after adverts where the woman's hair is a bit frizzy and then it becomes all straight and smooth? All the men I have checked with, including me, find the "before" woman much more attractive - not that this matters of course.
David, you actually asked men about this?And BYW, the sleek look is achieved by blowdrying and ironing the air, not thanks to the product on its own. It's amazing how smooth and shinny my hair can be when straightened when it is normally in tight ringlets like goldy locks.
Not saying you don't talk, but surprised women's hair product adverts would come to mind. But a good suggestion to make to those neanderthalsHahaha! Regardless of current media stereotyping and propaganda we do actually talk to each other, not just simple stuff but deeper things; feelings, loss, bewilderment, women, how to love, how to be good, meaning of life, frizzy hair versus over-slicked and unsexual straight hair. We actually talk. Well, my tribe does. Not too sure about those Neanderthals into sport.
You can buy a cake of shampoo/conditioner that you can use for washing and clothes, it is amazing and it really is a conditioner, you should try it. One cake of soap for everything, it is from LUSH. I have long thick hair and it worked well.Ok this seems simple enough to solve but its like i can't!
What do people do about shampoo and conditioner? I dont want to cart around two big bottles/extra weight. But i need it! (I dont do shampoo and cond in one)
Do i get smaller bottles and re-fill? Do i just buy extra along the way and refill and leave the rest behind? Maybe i just solved my own dilemma right there?
I have used the Lush solid shampoo bar several times and love them, but the problem is the container filling up with water in the shower unless there is somewhere to put it, and that the round tin plus round shampoo bar can leave the bar stuck in the tin - top tip: get the square one, or ask for a black plastic Lush cream container. Or place a piece of plastic wrap or a match in the bottom. I bring a toiletries/washbag with a hook to hang it over the shower door or any hooks, rails etc and that makes it easier to put the bar away without getting it soaked and dissolving. On my last couple of walks though I have brought a small refillable shampoo bottle and might also bring a tube of Nice & Easy conditioner cream. Or not. I travel hand luggage only, so it depends how much room I have in the liquid allowance bag. I am considering swapping it for the tooth paste and bring the Lush toothy tabs instead though!
I thought I heard this idea before!I found my hair is difficult to comb with the very hard water in Spain. My hair was like straw after my first Camino. I now take a moisturizing shampoo and very concentrated conditioner in small squeeze travel bottles. It usually lasts 4 weeks. I cut a bar of regular bar soap in half to save weight...it's the soap I use at home and I like the smell. It lasts for over a month. I have pared down my pack weight over several caminos but consider these my luxury items.
good idea. I was thinking soak in a Ziploc bag would be wet and gross.I plan to put my LUSH shampoo bar in a little mesh bag so it can "air dry", once it is dry I will pack it with the toiletries bag ...
Don't stress about the weight if you care about it.
Before my 2014 camino I tested using Dr Bronners soap as my bath soap, shampoo and laundry soap. For my hair it failed in the shampoo dept (but fine for bath and laundry), leaving my hair gummy after a week's worth of washing. I have found a solid conditioner that i LOVE and know that the "sample size" will last me 3 weeks. Still looking for a solid shampoo that I like for my hair. Hmmm, maybe I can just put my favorite shampoo in my dehydrator??
I'll PM you the info. I am just a happy customer and have no relationship to the vendor. I tried to go into a Lush store in Madrid but it was so crowded I gave up. Plus I'd heard how $$$$ it was...I'd love to hear about this solid conditioner too. I love the Lush bar and have tried both types of shampoo bar styles. (The one with conditioner added and the one that is just shampoo.) I like the one with conditioner, but it isn't enough to condition my hair. I also tried the Lush conditioner bar and it is VERY difficult to work with. It wasn't worth the $ I spent.
Shampoo? Conditioner? For what?!?!?!
What a load of rubbish!Men should not respond to this thread. They can't possibly understand the agonies of bad hair days on the Camino! Let no female set off without their favourite conditioner. Ditto, handcream - essential with all the clothes washing every day!
Hi, I have to use conditioner and have looked at the problem. I have decided to take two 100ml screw top containers of conditioner and one of shampoo and see how long this lasts. then like previous posts refil and share surplusOk this seems simple enough to solve but its like i can't!
What do people do about shampoo and conditioner? I dont want to cart around two big bottles/extra weight. But i need it! (I dont do shampoo and cond in one)
Do i get smaller bottles and re-fill? Do i just buy extra along the way and refill and leave the rest behind? Maybe i just solved my own dilemma right there?
The unfortunate thing is that you will likely be hard pressed to find somewhere to air dry it I think. There isn't always a lot of options for all the extra bits and bobbles we would like to hang up somewhere.I plan to put my LUSH shampoo bar in a little mesh bag so it can "air dry", once it is dry I will pack it with the toiletries bag ...
I just drained the water out of my soap's plastic container after my shower, then left the container, open, by my backpack afterwards so the soap could air dry. I tried to remember to return after an hour or so to flip it over to dry the underside (easy to do when bustling about with laundry and tending t0 feet).
I just tried the Lush shampoo bar. I have used the Seanik and it doesn't have much smell. Just tried the "honey, I washed my hair" and it smells wonderful like honey and vanilla. Tried the Lush conditioner bar and have to agree with everyone else. Hard to get it working and my hair was so dry after, I have to have conditioner. Probably will take a Lush shampoo bar for hair, clothes, shaving, and body, but bring along either a small bottle of conditioner or a spray bottle of leave in Infusium. Have to try that combo. Do you think one lush bar will last about 40 days with using it for cleaning everything?
A few years ago one of our local radio presenters stopped using shampoo on the basis of science that shampoo only causes the scalp to produce more oil and upsets the natural balance. He washes it, but just with water. Masses of people followed his example. The first four or five weeks are horrible, with the hair getting greasy and lank, but after that the scalp adjusts and the hair becomes beautiful, soft and fluffy and not at all smelly. Last week the radio station did a follow-up, to see how many people had continued the routine. A surprising number have kept it up and all claim their hair is much better than when they used shampoo.
I tried it but could not get through the yucky stage - after three weeks I gave in and reached for the shampoo. I am thinking that walking the camino from SJPDP to Santiago is just about the right amount of time, if you have the nerve.
WOW! What a long thread. I didn't know who to answer, there were so many interesting comments. I see a lot of the same monikers across many threads - you folks must be research freaks like me! I'm heading out on my first Camino in 4 weeks time. I've discovered LUSH toiletries and have road tested them. Shampoo is great, and the conditioner works for me (I have very fine hair and a beard and eyebrows and, well you guys know about the body-hair thing) but very soft and tricky to use - use the flat side and work it in after you put the bar aside - be careful or it will squish into your hair and leave chunks behind. For 30 years and more I've used a soft plastic 'scalp massager' gizmo to wash my hair - it moves the goo-lovely down to scalp level then when rinsing gets every last bit of residue out so you look like one of those glamorous Camino commercials!! Women with a lot of hair would maybe get Lush conditioner tangled and jammed (oops, sexist, I'm working on a barista-bun myself, so us guys have long hair too sometimes). Use the Lush tins for shampoo and conditioner - the shampoo is a tight fit until after a couple of uses. Shampoo bars are pretty small but lather up FAST so you won't use much. I'm taking 2 bars each S+C for 12 weeks - will stock up in Paris if I run out. The reason for choosing Lush was to save baggage weight and space AND MONEY as I'll be travelling before and after The Camino and I don't want to buy bottles of stuff only to throw away half full bottles multiple times. TOOTHPASTE is bulky and heavy, Lush "toothpaste" is their cleverest trick - it's tiny tablets that you crush between yr teeth and mix with yr saliva + brush and hey presto! - talk about saving weight and space! AND: No bottles/tubes, no leaks. Yikes! - Sorry I'm so long-winded. Buen Camino Y'all.Ok this seems simple enough to solve but its like i can't!
What do people do about shampoo and conditioner? I dont want to cart around two big bottles/extra weight. But i need it! (I dont do shampoo and cond in one)
Do i get smaller bottles and re-fill? Do i just buy extra along the way and refill and leave the rest behind? Maybe i just solved my own dilemma right there?
David! Get your tongue out of your cheek and go straight to the top of Ivar's Naughty List! Do not pass GO!Men do have issues - women think they have problems but we have to carry four different and specialised shampoos and conditioners
Each area of the body that grows hair on a man is of a slightly different type - beard hair, for instance, is triangular in section, unlike the round in section head hair.
So we have to carry quite a lot ...
1) shampoo and conditioner for the head hair (if we still have any)
2) shampoo and conditioner for the beard and eyebrows (and ears and noses in older men)
3) shampoo and conditioner for the armpits and chest hair (and lower legs)
4) shampoo and conditioner for the pubic hair (to keep its natural and attractive curl and shock-absorbing springiness)
Of course we hide all this inside a hollowed out and stale Cornish pasty or pork pie (you always wondered why we carried them???) and keep it absolutely secret from women .... oopppss!!
Hi Mike - Great info on the Lush products - thanks. I knew about the shampoo and conditioner bars but not about the toothpaste tablets - how do you rate them? I'd be interested to hear what you think about them as opposed to regular toothpaste.WOW! What a long thread. I didn't know who to answer, there were so many interesting comments. I see a lot of the same monikers across many threads - you folks must be research freaks like me! I'm heading out on my first Camino in 4 weeks time. I've discovered LUSH toiletries and have road tested them. Shampoo is great, and the conditioner works for me (I have very fine hair and a beard and eyebrows and, well you guys know about the body-hair thing) but very soft and tricky to use - use the flat side and work it in after you put the bar aside - be careful or it will squish into your hair and leave chunks behind. For 30 years and more I've used a soft plastic 'scalp massager' gizmo to wash my hair - it moves the goo-lovely down to scalp level then when rinsing gets every last bit of residue out so you look like one of those glamorous Camino commercials!! Women with a lot of hair would maybe get Lush conditioner tangled and jammed (oops, sexist, I'm working on a barista-bun myself, so us guys have long hair too sometimes). Use the Lush tins for shampoo and conditioner - the shampoo is a tight fit until after a couple of uses. Shampoo bars are pretty small but lather up FAST so you won't use much. I'm taking 2 bars each S+C for 12 weeks - will stock up in Paris if I run out. The reason for choosing Lush was to save baggage weight and space AND MONEY as I'll be travelling before and after The Camino and I don't want to buy bottles of stuff only to throw away half full bottles multiple times. TOOTHPASTE is bulky and heavy, Lush "toothpaste" is their cleverest trick - it's tiny tablets that you crush between yr teeth and mix with yr saliva + brush and hey presto! - talk about saving weight and space! AND: No bottles/tubes, no leaks. Yikes! - Sorry I'm so long-winded. Buen Camino Y'all.
Hi Jenny, I think of the toothpaste tablets as a travel item. But considered environmentally there is so much less packaging and the tablets themselves are amazingly low-volume. It works perfectly well, comes in a few flavours, is a tiny bit gritty but I read somewhere that there are abrasives in 'normal' toothpaste. I bought the minty one. It works just as well as toothpaste, especially when you consider that we waste an enormous amount of the stuff by dumping so much on our toothbrushes! The best thing about Lush 'toothpaste' tablets is that they're so ridiculously compact and lightweight. I'll probably transfer them from their tiny boxes into a small ziplock bag which I can wheedle into a corner of my bag somewhere (your bank will give you a handful of tiny ziplocks for depositing change). I find it fun to use because it seems like such a good idea and the novelty doesn't wear off. Perfect for travel.Hi Mike - Great info on the Lush products - thanks. I knew about the shampoo and conditioner bars but not about the toothpaste tablets - how do you rate them? I'd be interested to hear what you think about them as opposed to regular toothpaste.
Cheers - Jenny
A few years ago one of our local radio presenters stopped using shampoo on the basis of science that shampoo only causes the scalp to produce more oil and upsets the natural balance. He washes it, but just with water. Masses of people followed his example. The first four or five weeks are horrible, with the hair getting greasy and lank, but after that the scalp adjusts and the hair becomes beautiful, soft and fluffy and not at all smelly. Last week the radio station did a follow-up, to see how many people had continued the routine. A surprising number have kept it up and all claim their hair is much better than when they used shampoo.
I tried it but could not get through the yucky stage - after three weeks I gave in and reached for the shampoo. I am thinking that walking the camino from SJPDP to Santiago is just about the right amount of time, if you have the nerve.
Sold, Mike! I'll give them a go. They sound fantastic. Another great thing about them is that, as it's not a tube of toothpaste, you don't have to put them in the clear plastic bags to present when you go through Security at airports - a bonus.Hi Jenny, I think of the toothpaste tablets as a travel item. But considered environmentally there is so much less packaging and the tablets themselves are amazingly low-volume. It works perfectly well, comes in a few flavours, is a tiny bit gritty but I read somewhere that there are abrasives in 'normal' toothpaste. I bought the minty one. It works just as well as toothpaste, especially when you consider that we waste an enormous amount of the stuff by dumping so much on our toothbrushes! The best thing about Lush 'toothpaste' tablets is that they're so ridiculously compact and lightweight. I'll probably transfer them from their tiny boxes into a small ziplock bag which I can wheedle into a corner of my bag somewhere (your bank will give you a handful of tiny ziplocks for depositing change). I find it fun to use because it seems like such a good idea and the novelty doesn't wear off. Perfect for travel.
Hi lindseh, Thanks for offering to data dump. I use the yellow lemony shampoo bar. I have fine hair and lots of it. It's a bit oily and it's grey but at least it hasn't fallen out. Would you recommend another choice? Also, is there only one type of conditioner? Thanks and Buen Camino - Mike from OztraylumateYup. LUSH shampoo bars are the best. If anyone wants any tips on how to choose one to suit your needs, feel free to ask. I work there (but just to be clear, I was recommending them long before I worked there.. I work there BECAUSE I love the products, not vice versa)
The solid conditioners tend to work if you have pretty straight, short manageable hair. Otherwise, they can be a bit of a hassle and don't last as long as the shampoo bars. But one shampoo bar is enough to see you through a whole Camino, because you really don't need to use that much each time you wash.
Jenny, Yes a big initial attraction for me was that these are all dry products, so no security problems. I forgot to mention another item: their deodorant is a small plastic squeeze bottle of powder that weighs almost nothing. They make foot powder too and I think both products are interchangeable - labels only slightly different but bottles identical. The deodorant lasts so long I haven't used a whole bottle yet. These people are very clever. Using their stuff makes me feel smarter - urgent improvement superficially accomplished! - MikeSold, Mike! I'll give them a go. They sound fantastic. Another great thing about them is that, as it's not a tube of toothpaste, you don't have to put them in the clear plastic bags to present when you go through Security at airports - a bonus.
Cheers - Jenny
Unfortunately, they are very popular. Every time I try to get some, they're sold out! I'll have to keep trying.Hi Jenny, I think of the toothpaste tablets as a travel item. ... The best thing about Lush 'toothpaste' tablets is that they're so ridiculously compact and lightweight. I'll probably transfer them from their tiny boxes into a small ziplock bag which I can wheedle into a corner of my bag somewhere (your bank will give you a handful of tiny ziplocks for depositing change). I find it fun to use because it seems like such a good idea and the novelty doesn't wear off. Perfect for travel.
Yup. LUSH shampoo bars are the best. If anyone wants any tips on how to choose one to suit your needs, feel free to ask. I work there (but just to be clear, I was recommending them long before I worked there.. I work there BECAUSE I love the products, not vice versa)
The solid conditioners tend to work if you have pretty straight, short manageable hair. Otherwise, they can be a bit of a hassle and don't last as long as the shampoo bars. But one shampoo bar is enough to see you through a whole Camino, because you really don't need to use that much each time you wash.
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