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It is a standard question that is being asked by the Pilgrim Office of every pilgrim who wishes to get a Compostela or other document.I am curious as to if that was one more case of artistic license or if one IS actually asked such questions?
These days it is simply a matter of ticking a box on an electronic form. You are not directly asked to give a verbal answer about your motives. That was the practice at one time. When I walked my first Camino a guide book from the Confraternity of St James warned new arrivals in Santiago to expect some questioning about their reasons for walking and what made their journey a pilgrimage. As a Protestant who had recently completed a degree in theology I spent about 20 minutes in deep conversation with the priest whose special role was to welcome pilgrims before receiving my Compostela. Wouldn't happen these days. In part because people are far more likely to see questions about motivation as "judgemental". But mostly because there are just too many arrivals for in-depth conversations.I am curious as to if that was one more case of artistic license or if one IS actually asked such questions?
It does not happen these days in part because there are no priests at the computers in the Pilgrim Office who issue the Compostela but staff and volunteers from all over the world who may not be able to hold a theological discussion for any length of time …I spent about 20 minutes in deep conversation with the priest whose special role was to welcome pilgrims before receiving my Compostela. Wouldn't happen these days. In part because people are far more likely to see questions about motivation as "judgemental". But mostly because there are just too many arrivals for in-depth conversations.
As I recall the movie the conversation took place in the old pilgrim office in Rua do Vilar. I can recall having a much shorter and less involved conversation about motives with a lay volunteer there too. My friend Johnnie Walker used to manage the pilgrim office some years ago. He tells me that they used to ask people verbally why they walked but he can't recall anyone ever being refused a Compostela as a result of their answer.It does not happen these days in part because there are no priests at the computers in the Pilgrim Office who issue the Compostela but staff and volunteers all over the world who may not be able to hold a theological discussion …
Always good to check what you remember before you post3 options in recent years were religious, religious and spiritual, and other
The (indistinct) word in this scene in the movie is "spiritual". The speaker has an accent, perhaps Spanish? The Spanish word is "espiritual". Hence ..."I mean did you have sort of religious or (indistinct) motivation?"
They were. They still are (albeit on a form and in less detail). The format of the question has changed over time. Bradypus has described his early experience, which involved a conversation on the topic. When I applied for my first Compostela, in 2016 (long after my first pilgrimage) the choices were as Kathar1na shows above, "religious or spiritual or tourism/sport". In more recent pilgrimages, if I recall correctly, religious and spiritual were lumped together, along with "a spirit of questioning" or something like that. Now, the choices seem to be "non-religious or other or religious".These are the words asked of the pilgrims in The Way as they apply for their Compostela and other variations are
"what was the reason for having done this pilgrimage?"
"I mean did you have sort of religious or (indistinct) motivation?"
I am curious as to if that was one more case of artistic license or if one IS actually asked such questions?
No. Just ancient history...So, not really artistic license.
If you have deep pockets they will probably oblige. Once the cathedral gets round to fixing it. Still out of action. I'm told the central pulley mechanism has been taken off the support frame so perhaps the problem is with that. Not the sort of item you can buy from Amazon for next day delivery!They'll be swinging that Botafumiero on Imbolc, Beltane, Lughnasa, and Samhain next
Went there a couple of years ago. Then made a short walk to Roncesvalles - or at least the site of the daughter house St Mary Rouncival in Trafalgar Square.If you want to bump your head on that of Master Mateo you'll need to go to the Castings galleries of the V&A in South Kensington. You are advised to keep an eye out for Security but its doable
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