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OMG, of course. Bring it.Can we complain about the poll choices?
Well, I saw it on an airplane, and dozed through sections, even though it was after my first Camino. It looked as good or as bad as many movies. I have never sought it out since, but would possibly watch it again if it appeared on my airplane screen again. #3 doesn't seem quite right, but neither does #4 because #4 is right up there next to the obsessives. Having #3 combine the indifferents with the did-not-see group isn't helpful in understanding the opinions.OMG, of course. Bring it.
I chose #4, but I'm more of a 3.5#3 doesn't seem quite right, but neither does #4 because #4 is right up there next to the obsessives. Having #3 combine the indifferents with the did-not-see group isn't helpful in understanding the opinions.
I’d put myself squarely in category #4 (which is option 2) - but I too see the categories as a bit skewed - sorry @VNwalking. There seems to be a category ‘missing’ between 5 and 4.I absolutely LOVE the movie, but there was no category in the poll for me. I own the dvd, but have only watched it 3 or 4 times in nine years...not 6 times or more every year.
I think it's about time to watch it againif my dvd player still works.
We also own I'll Push You. Those guys were from Boise (and one is a nurse like me) when we lived there, so another "push" for us to go onthe Camino.I absolutely LOVE the movie, but there was no category in the poll for me. I own the dvd, but have only watched it 3 or 4 times in nine years...not 6 times or more every year.
I think it's about time to watch it againif my dvd player still works.
EDIT- I saw "I'll Push You" at the theater and it is my absolute favorite of the Camino films I have seen.
Yes, or even a simple option - I loved the movie - as the second choice.Love the movie, but watch it six times a year!!?!? That choice seems ridiculous, but the next one is too far down the liking scale to be accurate for me. I think a “loved it and have rewatched it often over the years” is more my style
Yes, that would be a better option. As it stands now I am a 4.25.Yes, or even a simple option - I loved the movie - as the second choice.
Yep, I don’t understand the thinking behind the wording of the first option. It could have been more realistic - e.g I loved the movie and have rewatched it regularly. Anyhoo, polls are tricky.Yes, that would be a better option. As it stands now I am a 4.25 - 4.5.
To be fair, in the movie he learned of the death of his son, and a few days later was in SJPdP to collect his remains, only thereafter deciding to walk the Camino himself to honor his son. I think in the same circumstances, most of us would not have decided on the flight over to sign up for Spanish lessons.Particularly problematic for me was the arrogant way that Martin Sheen’s character couldn’t be bothered to learn even a few words of French or Spanish. The ‘Ugly American’ stereotype.
This is a better wording, thank you.Love the movie, but watch it six times a year!!?!? That choice seems ridiculous, but the next one is too far down the liking scale to be accurate for me. I think a “loved it and have rewatched it often over the years” is more my style
I couldn't re-number, but I edited #5 to use the newer wording, but unfortunately now we don't get to see how many people actually watch it 6 times/year! Also someone voted for the new wording while it was #6, and that vote has now been lost. Whoever it was can vote again for #5.nd if a mod can get in there and renumber (and delete extra) options that would be super
Oh well. Fortunately this is not a serious poll!I edited #5 to use the newer wording, but unfortunately now we don't get to see how many people actually watch it 6 times/year!
I, too, would like to criticise the poll options.How brave you are, VN! Can we complain about the poll choices? (That is usually the main entertainment with polls.)
You could always set up an alternative poll with different questions. Then we could have another thread discussing which poll we like best and why....Oh well. I settled for #4. But, really, we ought to have discussed the poll options FIRST.
That's a film I've watched more than once, albeit it with a few years in between viewings. As discussed on other threads, it's difficult to find these days.“Saint-Jacques - La Mecque”
Been some discussion of the 2023 Danish film "Camino" recently. I haven't seen it but it seems to share at least one plotline with "Saint Jacques...La Mecque": characters walking a Camino reluctantly as the result of the dying wish of a relative. A similar motive for the lead character in "The Way". Interesting to see the same trope recurring in several popular fiction films set on the Caminos. I have met a few people and read posts by many more in recent years who have walked or are planning to walk as a memorial to a friend or relative. Often directly inspired by watching "The Way". I was not aware of that as a popular motivation when I first began to walk Caminos. Has it always been the case - even before these movies - and I was simply not aware of it at the time?I own the DVD “Saint-Jacques - La Mecque” if that helps.
Haha. Maybe I should have just asked, "On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is HATE it and 10 is LOVE it, how do you rate The Way?"Oh well. I settled for #4. But, really, we ought to have discussed the poll options FIRST
Maybe we do have to take this to a separate threadI haven't seen it but it seems to share at least one plotline with "Saint Jacques...La Mecque": characters walking a Camino reluctantly as the result of the dying wish of a relative. A similar motive for the lead character in "The Way".
I agree. It was a wonderful twist, subtly shown in the final moments of the film. But I think you should put a SPOILER ALERT at the top of your post - in case anyone who hasn't yet seen it is able to get hold of a copy!SJLM is in a class of it's own. Makes you laugh out loud, has some social criticism, ... a good movie IMHO.
I had understood that. What I wanted to point out is that, it least in my opinion, the story line of SJLM is not about coming to terms with loss (of any sort). And not about a dramatic change of life as a result of Camino walking. Not about making friends from all over the world and discussing issues with them. All of which is in the storyline of The Way, for example.Sorry - I may not have made myself clear. I have watched and enjoyed "Saint Jacques... La Mecque" and watched and enjoyed (with a few more reservations) "The Way". So far I have not seen the Danish film.
It may not be the director's principal message but that formation of a "Camino family" (dreadful phrase!) is a key feature in SJLM too. The various characters and sub-plots eventually interacting and becoming entangled.Not about making friends from all over the world and discussing issues with them. All of which is in the storyline of The Way, for example.
Indeed they do. It is an organised tour group with a leader who does this for a living. I've been on many of such organised walking tours myself in other parts of the world.It may not be the director's principal message but that formation of a "Camino family" (dreadful phrase!) is a key feature in SJLM too. The various characters and sub-plots eventually interacting and becoming entangled.
If I needed a working definition of hell that would be a fairly good starting point...I've been on many of such organised walking tours myself in other parts of the world.
The first time I participated in an organised walking tour was life changing. For the better. Only five days. It had similar effects as those described by others who walked 5 weeks to Santiago. It also had the effect that I started to think about my next similar trip as soon as I got home. And that happened again and again. Very very good memories.If I needed a working definition of hell that would be a fairly good starting point...
An 8.25 for me!Haha. Maybe I should have just asked, "On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is HATE it and 10 is LOVE it, how do you rate The Way?"
I could have written this.I myself cannot relate to the attraction that the movie The Way has for numerous people. But I guess it might have something to do with the fact that it gave them an impulse to do something of which they had not been aware of. To do something that they had never heard of before and to realise that it could be something that they could do by themselves. For the first time. On their own. Far away from home and away from familiar surroundings. As a mature person and not a person who has hiked since their youth or early adulthood.
I would certainly not expect fluency, but learning a very few simple words and phrases in another language does not take long. It is the polite thing to do when visiting another country.To be fair, in the movie he learned of the death of his son, and a few days later was in SJPdP to collect his remains, only thereafter deciding to walk the Camino himself to honor his son. I think in the same circumstances, most of us would not have decided on the flight over to sign up for Spanish lessons.
I'm one of the '3's. I walked my first Camino twenty years before the movie so it had no part in bringing me to the Caminos.It would be interesting to know if the haters or indifferent folks (1s, 2s, 3s) mostly learned of the Camino some other way.
Well, B, at least you are not a 1 or a 2.I'm one of the '3's. I walked my first Camino twenty years before the movie so it had no part in bringing me to the Caminos.
A recent post about a sequel to the the Way elicited many responses, and a few people thought a poll would be interesting. I agree, wondering what the silent people here think, not merely those of us who feel strongly enough to post their opinions.
So what's the current general feeling here on the Forum about this movie that's become iconic?
The poll is anonymous.
There is no need to post a message after you vote. But if you feel called to do so, please be kind. Opinions are opinions. None are right or wrong - they're just opinions. Kindly keep it to yourself if you feel other people are stupid or insufferable snobs (or whatever) for having them.
I moved to Virginia about 32 years ago from a rural Pennsylvania community. I spent most of my off hours standing in a stream fishing for trout, I identified myself as a fly fisherman. Then a movie come out named "A river runs through it", and the quiet stream's of the Blue Ridge mountains that I fell in love with were never the same again.A recent post about a sequel to the the Way elicited many responses, and a few people thought a poll would be interesting. I agree, wondering what the silent people here think, not merely those of us who feel strongly enough to post their opinions.
So what's the current general feeling here on the Forum about this movie that's become iconic?
The poll is anonymous.
There is no need to post a message after you vote. But if you feel called to do so, please be kind. Opinions are opinions. None are right or wrong - they're just opinions. Kindly keep it to yourself if you feel other people are stupid or insufferable snobs (or whatever) for having them.
Now, I cannot participate - haven´t seen it.A recent post about a sequel to the the Way elicited many responses, and a few people thought a poll would be interesting. I agree, wondering what the silent people here think, not merely those of us who feel strongly enough to post their opinions.
So what's the current general feeling here on the Forum about this movie that's become iconic?
The poll is anonymous.
There is no need to post a message after you vote. But if you feel called to do so, please be kind. Opinions are opinions. None are right or wrong - they're just opinions. Kindly keep it to yourself if you feel other people are stupid or insufferable snobs (or whatever) for having them.
"The Way" is a fairly successful adaption of "Alice in Wonderland" set in beautiful landscapes. It is also a song for the Camino and Galicia, in the backgroung it is a praise for family history. Who couldn't like it!I had understood that. What I wanted to point out is that, it least in my opinion, the story line of SJLM is not about coming to terms with loss (of any sort). And not about a dramatic change of life as a result of Camino walking. Not about making friends from all over the world and discussing issues with them. All of which is in the storyline of The Way, for example.
There appears to be something in The Way that makes people want to walk themselves in a way that SJLM doesn't. I think.
An 8.25 for me!
If we are allowed to give our vote to 2 decimal places I would upgrade to more like 3.37.... I don't actively dislike the film as a whole. It was fairly entertaining to watch. I didn't feel that I had completely wasted 2 hours of my life. But it didn't move or inspire me in the way that it clearly does for some people.Well, B, at least you are not a 1 or a 2.
There is a website Justwatch.com that lets us see in which countries which movies are streamed, and indeed it is not available in Norway at this point in time. You can ask to be notified if and when it becomes available in your country.Now, I cannot participate - haven´t seen it.Live in NOrway and cannot find it anywhere. None of the streaming services we have offer us this movie. Can anyone tell us where to find it??
Forget the poll. Two of our most memorable experiences on our first camino many years ago were related to the movie. I will relate the most heartwarming.A recent post about a sequel to the the Way elicited many responses, and a few people thought a poll would be interesting. I agree, wondering what the silent people here think, not merely those of us who feel strongly enough to post their opinions.
So what's the current general feeling here on the Forum about this movie that's become iconic?
The poll is anonymous.
There is no need to post a message after you vote. But if you feel called to do so, please be kind. Opinions are opinions. None are right or wrong - they're just opinions. Kindly keep it to yourself if you feel other people are stupid or insufferable snobs (or whatever) for having them.
A not insignificant number of people. The poll shows that (at least here) they are a minority but that doesn't negate the validity of their experience.Who couldn't like it!
An amazing story. Even being indifferent to the movie, that's really touching.I couldn't help but smile, knowing how many have walked the camino and continue to walk with a higher purpose.
I think in fairness, being told your son had just died and having to set off the retrieve the body at short notice, he may be excused for not learning or being in any fit state to do so.I would certainly not expect fluency, but learning a very few simple words and phrases in another language does not take long. It is the polite thing to do when visiting another country.
“Hello”
“My name is ...”
“Please”
“Thank you”
“Excuse me”
“Do you speak English?”
Yes, Sheen never legally changed his name. For example Estevez is on his passport."What delighted me was to see Martin Sheen is in the titles as an executive producer under his real name of Ramon Gerard Estevez thus ending the long term regret between Marty and his dad Francisco"
By extension...a good point.Sure it was a good movie and it was nice to see people enjoy my passion but the solitude and peacefulness was gone. The silence of the river's was gone. There was people walking in the water, trash along banks of the river.....
The movie wasn't that good.
On our first camino, and many after that, we always seem to meet people of all ages with stories that can only be described as life imitating art. The characters in The Way came to life for us. One lady whom we kept walking with and bumping into seemed so odd, always dressed in the same black outfit. She was a strikingly lovely lady around 50 years old. She never said anything...just walked.Thanks so much for the opportunity to open up about my feelings regarding this film!
A firm #2 here. When I was planning my first Camino, I watched it and I pretty much hated it (eye-rolling script, bad acting, shallow characters representing ridiculous stereotypes; I could go on). I have never expressed these feelings around other pilgrims, because I understand that many many people adore the film, or the way it inspired them to walk a Camino. I have no desire to see it again, but I do hope to walk more Caminos. Phew.
Only if you bring it up, as you just did.sense this is the sort of discussion that will soon find itself hidden by the rules much like true pilgrims , bull fighting etc The haters and those at the other end of the spectrum just won't be able to control themselves
Yes, we could forget the poll and the mods could merge this thread with the one from yesterday.Forget the poll.
I wish you had been able to watch the film to the end. The whole point of the film was about how the Camino experience tempered him and helped him to understand why his son was so passionate about travel and he falls in love with the idea for himself.Particularly problematic for me was the arrogant way that Martin Sheen’s character couldn’t be bothered to learn even a few words of French or Spanish. The ‘Ugly American’ stereotype.
I’m a 5. I love it. I watched it the first time with my husband and we started making plans to walk it soon after. He passed away before we could. I was so lost in my grief, I decided to walk it in his memory. It was one of the best things I did for myself during that time. I think it kind of saved me too. I wouldn’t have known about it without the movie - which I thought was beautifully done.A recent post about a sequel to the the Way elicited many responses, and a few people thought a poll would be interesting. I agree, wondering what the silent people here think, not merely those of us who feel strongly enough to post their opinions.
So what's the current general feeling here on the Forum about this movie that's become iconic?
The poll is anonymous.
There is no need to post a message after you vote. But if you feel called to do so, please be kind. Opinions are opinions. None are right or wrong - they're just opinions. Kindly keep it to yourself if you feel other people are stupid or insufferable snobs (or whatever) for having them.
A pity, because that's an interesting number you pointed out. I wonder if that 1000 includes bots? Because the poll's completely anonymous.It's gone.
bots, crawlers and the like I would guess .. Hopefully it can stay open a decent amount of time to get a better consensusA pity, because that's an interesting number you pointed out. I wonder if that 1000 includes bots? Because the poll's completely anonymous.
Yep, I'm a solid 3. Never seen the movie but of course I'm aware of it. It isn't as popular or as big of a deal this side of the Atlantic I think and it isn't available on any of the streamers over here (Ireland) as far as I'm aware, at least, not on I subscribe to anyway. If it ever crosses my path, I'm sure I wil watch it. However, I am convinced you are correct about its impact on 'camino culture', at least as far as the Frances is concerned. I will walk my third Camino route this year, in early June (The Primitivo from Oviedo) but have deliberately shied away from walking the Frances so far. I see people on (mostly FB) forums referring to 'walking el Camino' and 'The Way' and I know they mean the Frances and likely don't even know there are other less well travelled routes. It kinda puts me off it to be honest. Next year I will walk (sections of, I still work full time and can't take the block of leave needed to walk the full length) the Norte as my fourth Camino route. As to the Frances, perhaps I will get around to it eventually, but I'm avoiding it as long as I can it would seem.By extension...a good point.
The movie has definitely impacted the Camino, and camino culture
And not everyone is happy about that.
It's not important. As you know, Chrissy, I am often at a loss with comments and replies on the forum.@Pelerina, I appreciated your comment, especially as I'd been focusing on reading the comments and had forgotten to look at the poll again when I got up earlier; I thought you had some good insight and am disappointed to see you had deleted it.
Not just you. Emilio Estevez has said a number of times that the film is deliberately modelled on 'The Wizard of Oz'.Was it just me, or did anyone else think it was a little similar to The Wizard of Oz?
Same. Though to be completely honest, 1 fits sometimes too. So count me as a 1.5.Poll well done @VNwalking ! I found the perfect answer in #2Hate is such a strong word, one which I use rarely which ruled out #1.
Yes, the bigger the sample size the better. Now it's looking even more skewed than an hour ago.Hopefully it can stay open a decent amount of time to get a better consensus
Well, Galicia most definitely isn't KansasNot just you. Emilio Estevez has said a number of times that the film is deliberately modelled on 'The Wizard of Oz'.
Same here.I chose #4, but I'm more of a 3.5
I can attest to your wife's strength of character, and was privileged to meet the three of you at dinner on the Ingles.In 2015, my wife was almost killed in a car accident (some of you are aware of it - a large tree fell on her car while driving). Four months later, when she finally came home, I suggested we watch "The Way" (I had seen it before, but she was never interested). After watching the movie, she said "I want to do that." To which I replied "You'll need to learn how to walk, first." Her ankle had been shattered in the accident.
Thus began the long road back to (almost normalcy). It began with little steps on our porch (we have a very, very long porch) with a walker, then upgrading to crutches, and then eventually on her own two feet. Progress was slow - it took years before she could reach the point where she could walk more than a couple of miles.
In 2018, she began her Camino. It almost ended the first day, as she struggled to get to Valcarlos (I wound up carrying her pack the last two kilometers, of which the last 200 meters took about a half hour - one painful step after another).
I have a great photo of her crossing the Pyrenees the next day.
Rather than walk the entire way, we resumed our journey in Sarria. It was quite the emotional moment for her completing her journey of gratitude when we arrived in the plaza before the Cathedral of St. James a week later. From coding in ambulances and hospitals, 19 broken bones, and being in a coma, to completing a journey of over 100 kilometers by foot. In my not so humble opinion, that's not a small feat.
Since then, we have both walked the Camino Frances (separately) and the Camino Ingles (together with our youngest). She has also walked several Caminos in Portugal, along with serving as a hospitalera in donativos.
We watch "The Way" before every Camino (and many other times, too). My wife heads off to another Camino in April. I hope to do a longer one in 2025 (maybe Le Puy?). TBD.
Buen Camino
Are there any parallels between The Wizard of Oz and The Way other than that they follow a yellow brick road and yellow arrows? Fairly serious question because I don't see more. Perhaps four main characters looking for something and the movies had a major impact in some regions and not in others?Not just you. Emilio Estevez has said a number of times that the film is deliberately modelled on 'The Wizard of Oz'.
Not really. If you've never been, it doesn't matter. It's only after you go you pick up on the difference.I plan to watch, The Way, this weekend for my 58th birthday as I plan to Camino on my 60th. I heard the movie was not filmed on location, except for a couple of places. Does this detract from the authenticity of the film?
I know all the differences and it doesn't matter to me at all.I plan to watch, The Way, this weekend for my 58th birthday as I plan to Camino on my 60th. I heard the movie was not filmed on location, except for a couple of places. Does this detract from the authenticity of the film?
I learned about the movie following a Google Search, resulting from having accidentally caught a TV travel show on Galicia and the Camino de Santiago. Six months later, I walked out of Saint Jean Pied de Port, on my first Camino. From time to time, I will re-watch the film, especially if I need a mental "lift."A recent post about a sequel to the the Way elicited many responses, and a few people thought a poll would be interesting. I agree, wondering what the silent people here think, not merely those of us who feel strongly enough to post their opinions.
So what's the current general feeling here on the Forum about this movie that's become iconic?
The poll is anonymous.
There is no need to post a message after you vote. But if you feel called to do so, please be kind. Opinions are opinions. None are right or wrong - they're just opinions. Kindly keep it to yourself if you feel other people are stupid or insufferable snobs (or whatever) for having them.
Lol, I’d never heard that, but I totally see it!Not just you. Emilio Estevez has said a number of times that the film is deliberately modelled on 'The Wizard of Oz'.
I just took a look and I am not surprised at all. It's pretty much the same as every time one of these threads get started and really no different; poll or no poll.Now it's looking even more skewed than an hour ago.
Except the people who love the movie are more likely to engage in a discussion about it than those who dont. A poll gives a clearer picture of what people think, regardless of whether they want to talk about it.I just took a look and I am not surprised at all. It's pretty much the same as every time one of these threads get started and really no different; poll or no poll.
Yes, I wish so too.I wish you had been able to watch the film to the end. The whole point of the film was about how the Camino experience tempered him and helped him to understand why his son was so passionate about travel and he falls in love with the idea for himself.
I feel the same way. When I walked the Frances the first time, I hadn't seen any films or videos and was not a member of this or any other forum. I've always been grateful that I was so 'blissfully ignorant' in many respects. By the time I watched The Way, I'd walked the Frances twice. Not to take away from any of the wonderful stories of how people were inspired to walk after watching the film, for me, I'm happy not to have seen it or much of anything beforehand.I was very glad I had walked before seeing the movie.
I disagree. The anonymous poll is not really showing anything different than what we've already see on the many threads. I think those who clearly dislike it have always been in the minority on this forum. If as you say, some don't like to talk about their negative feelings about the film, the poll is their answer to be heard, but I'm not seeing it so far.Except the people who love the movie are more likely to engage in a discussion about it than those who dont. A poll gives a clearer picture of what people think, regardless of whether they want to talk about it.
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