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very nice article. with links to a search engine to becerro with transcriptions!!!In another thread, I just posted a photo of a hermitage near Villafranca Montes de Oca that most people walk by without much inspection. (Well, OK. I speak for myself, TBH.)
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But it turns out to be very old and very interesting:
Ermita de San Felices o San Félix de Oca - Historia del Condado de Castilla
Ermita prerrománica, hoy en ruinas, situada en el municipio de Villafranca Montes de Oca (Burgos). Posible sepulcro de Diego Rodríguez Porcelos, segundo conde de Castilla.www-condadodecastilla-es.translate.goog
It just goes to show that if you have an interest in something that you might encounter on the camino it pays to do a little digging beforehand, so that you don't just shrug and walk on by. Because there are lots of places like this.
I don't follow? (Sorry, a bit dense...)with links to a search engine to becerro with transcriptions
I don't follow? (Sorry, a bit dense...)
when they are talking about the oldest mentiones of the monastery in the documents, the second document date links to a page with the digital becerro de san millan de la cogolla with scanned pages, transcriptions (if you switch to latin) and translations. from there, you can search the entire becerro. (it takes a while to load new searches and the map doesn't work for meI don't follow? (Sorry, a bit dense...)
don't feel down, medieval crazy here.That is so far over my head it is no wonder I had no idea, @caminka.
OMG.
OK. I am turning this machine off now, lest I do irreparable harm to mine or anyone else's productivity!
no, this is a reconstruction of a shepherd's hut, I believe. possibly on/near the spot where Roland fought Ferragut. nothing to do with any monastery as far as I know.
OMG. Bookmarked.if you are interested, here are some:
Tit for tat. Restraint is in order.it's a rabbit hole, it really is.
I haven't. Pathetic, but for some reason I always miss the turnoff.(At least I saw the archeological dig of Castro de Castromaior)
the problem with pictographs is that you usually need to be versed in seeing them. they can be covered in lichen, for example, or worn out by rain and wind. you also need to try to see them from different angles because light falling onto a pictographs from a different position may reveal it.Not seeing things----The picture below is a rock with Pictographs located on the Primitivo. It is located about two meters off the path with a large historical sign describing it. When I showed the picture to others that day and posted the Picture on other Camino sites, no one recalled ever noticing it as they walked next to it! I still do not see any footprint pictographs.
I think the camino used to go further down the slope when I was there like, 15 years ago. this year I remember thinking 'huh, this goes a bit more up then I remember' and then there was the split, clearly marked with an info board. lots of pilgrims did the detour even in windy and rainy conditions.I haven't. Pathetic, but for some reason I always miss the turnoff.
this is the pictograph sign and another view of the rockthe problem with pictographs is that you usually need to be versed in seeing them. they can be covered in lichen, for example, or worn out by rain and wind. you also need to try to see them from different angles because light falling onto a pictographs from a different position may reveal it.
I remember going to a rock with pictographs off the camino on the way to cee with another pilgrim. we walked around, did squats, stretches, almost upside-downs, but neither could see them.
It just goes to show that if you have an interest in something that you might encounter on the camino it pays to do a little digging beforehand, so that you don't just shrug and walk on by. Because there are lots of places like this.
You might be right! I stood there for quite a while and could not see any footprints. That evening I showed the pictures to other hikers staying in the albergue and not a single person had even noticed the BIG sign and the rock!I took another look at your first photo and encircled what I think might be two footprints.
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Not sure which is more sad: that, or the opposite, i.e., the people that believe (and repost) all the complete nonsense we also have at our fingertips.Yes, it is really sad that people have the whole world of knowledge at their fingertips, but don't bother to use it.
With thousands of years of history, plus a few vestiges of prehistory, it’s sometimes frustrating to me the things I cannot spend time seeing and understanding there.There must be hundreds of hidden stories like this on the Frances alone.
Ah!! Too late now! A perfect example of why one should not pre-book and just let the Camino lead you to places. The site is in Tosantos....and the nearby albergue is an incredible experience. There is also a public Albergue next door to the "monastery" albergue. Stayed there on my first Camio Frances, but did not stay there on second walk as I was walking the Camino Frances with a Protestant minister who HATES Catholics and refused to stay in a place with "Monks"/ "Brothers".In addition to VN's original photo, I was very curious about this picture I took; off in the distance on the Frances not far after leaving Belorado, but I never researched it...anyone know details about it?
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My photo is from my very first camino when I did not book any lodgings beyond my first day in SJPdP and my final vacay days on the coast.Ah!! Too late now! A perfect example of why one should not pre-book and just let the Camino lead you to places
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