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1. If you are not flying direct, then I suggest you get your poles in Oviedo. Regulations (regardless of rumors) won’t allow the poles in carry-on bags. But get poles. Yes.As it is my first and very spontaneous camino (I’m off to Europe in few days), I am trying to do it as wisely as I can within my own time and research/planning limitations. I’m definitely thinking about traveling very light, but I am afraid of going too barebones… so here are some questions that may help tons.
Note: doing the Primitivo route and it is supposed to rain every day next week.
1. Walking sticks- yes or no? Should I bring them from home or get them in Oviedo? (Making my amazon shopping list now)
2. Sleeping bag- is it absolutely necessary to have one?
3. Hiking pants - never owned a pair and I usually use running leggings for all of my one day hikes (when they happen)
4. Towel!!! - I’d never think of brining one, but I just read somewhere I should not forget one.
5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? I read there is no water on some stretches and it makes me think if that is enough (don’t want to overpack if I don’t have to.
6. Sandals - so many people mention I take sandals in addition to my hiking shoes - hiking sandals? Trying to figure out what they mean and if it just relevant for the summer. I’m assuming I should take sandals for showers etc
7. Locks - Yes? No? I don’t know what they are are for, but I see them mentioned.
8. Hair and body products - do I need my own shampoo and body wash, etc?
9. Socks and underwear- I’m thinking of 3-4 each assuming I can wash them as I go. Where do you usually dry them? Do they dry fast? What is the best type to take? I hear smart wool, but does it dry overnight?
10. Medical supplies- someone I know mentioned I should take some painkillers, bandage tape, baby powder, cooling lotions for feet. Any thoughts? If there is something absolutely unwise to not take - what is it?
11. Head light (flashlight) - yes no? Necessary?
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover?
ANYTHING ELSE?
I’m probably overthinking, but I’m worried to end up being underprepared since the little voice in my head says - keep it as light as possible and I’m questioning EVERYTHING.
Thank you to all of you who will take time to read this.
take good manners and an open heart. Forget not the mistakes you will make: if they don't kill you they will teach youAs it is my first and very spontaneous camino (I’m off to Europe in few days), I am trying to do it as wisely as I can within my own time and research/planning limitations. I’m definitely thinking about traveling very light, but I am afraid of going too barebones… so here are some questions that may help tons.
Note: doing the Primitivo route and it is supposed to rain every day next week.
1. Walking sticks- yes or no? Should I bring them from home or get them in Oviedo? (Making my amazon shopping list now)
2. Sleeping bag- is it absolutely necessary to have one?
3. Hiking pants - never owned a pair and I usually use running leggings for all of my one day hikes (when they happen)
4. Towel!!! - I’d never think of brining one, but I just read somewhere I should not forget one.
5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? I read there is no water on some stretches and it makes me think if that is enough (don’t want to overpack if I don’t have to.
6. Sandals - so many people mention I take sandals in addition to my hiking shoes - hiking sandals? Trying to figure out what they mean and if it just relevant for the summer. I’m assuming I should take sandals for showers etc
7. Locks - Yes? No? I don’t know what they are are for, but I see them mentioned.
8. Hair and body products - do I need my own shampoo and body wash, etc?
9. Socks and underwear- I’m thinking of 3-4 each assuming I can wash them as I go. Where do you usually dry them? Do they dry fast? What is the best type to take? I hear smart wool, but does it dry overnight?
10. Medical supplies- someone I know mentioned I should take some painkillers, bandage tape, baby powder, cooling lotions for feet. Any thoughts? If there is something absolutely unwise to not take - what is it?
11. Head light (flashlight) - yes no? Necessary?
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover?
ANYTHING ELSE?
I’m probably overthinking, but I’m worried to end up being underprepared since the little voice in my head says - keep it as light as possible and I’m questioning EVERYTHING.
Thank you to all of you who will take time to read this.
Yes, although I have to laugh that the answers were not unanimous!All the responses above have pretty much covered everything.
Thank you! I find all these advices extremely helpful!!! I appreciate it so much!Hi @U20C_Katherine - my thoughts based on my past experience.
1. Walking sticks- yes or no? Should I bring them from home or get them in Oviedo?
-I am a confirmed walking stick person. On the Primitivo I found them essential for good support on the ascents and descents. On some of the descents (at the end of the Hospitales route in particular) the poles kept me from slipping and falling a couple of times). I find they help with good alignment while walking and are good for arm strengthening along the way
I've had the same walking poles for every camino and bring them from home. I usually check my pack and the poles collapse so it's not an issue with air travel for me. But if you prefer to carry your pack on, you can easily purchase some in Oviedo.
2. Sleeping bag- is it absolutely necessary to have one?
-This depends on your accommodation choices. If you are staying in albergues, then yes, a sleeping bag at this time of year on the Primitivo is necessary. I always take a very light weight sleeping bag when walking in the later fall and early spring. If you are staying exclusively in pensions, hostals or hotels, a bag is not so important.
3. Hiking pants - never owned a pair and I usually use running leggings.
-Personal choice but if rain is in the forecast, you may want something a little more protective. Some light weight hiking pants that dry quickly are a good choice.
4. Towel!!!
-Again, this depends on your accommodation choices. Albergues will not have towels.
5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? I read there is no water on some stretches
-I walked the Primitivo in the summer and made the bad mistake of not having enough water on the Hospitales route. There are no water sources on this stretch, and if I walked it again, I would make sure I had at least 2 litres, split into two bottles. Of course it was very hot, when I walked - you may not need as much water when it's cooler. On the rest of the Primitivo, starting out with 1 litre should be fine. Keep in mind though that at this time of year, not as many places (bars / cafes) may be open - especially early in the morning. Make sure you fill up your bottle(s) at your accommodation the night before.
6. Sandals - so many people mention I take sandals in addition to my hiking shoes - hiking sandals?
-For all my caminos, I've had my hiking shoes and a pair of light weight (Teva) sandals for the evening.
7. Locks - Yes? No? I don’t know what they are are for, but I see them mentioned.
-I've never taken a lock but I never leave my valuables. Ever. They come into the shower with me in a waterproof bag and stay with me in my sleeping bag at night.
8. Hair and body products - do I need my own shampoo and body wash, etc?
-Yes, you will need your own hair and body products as well as something to wash your clothes at the end of the day. Your choice on how you can keep things light by combining the use of the products you use. ie: body soap that can double as a clothes wash.
9. Socks and underwear- I’m thinking of 3-4 each assuming I can wash them as I go. Where do you usually dry them? Do they dry fast? What is the best type to take? I hear smart wool, but does it dry overnight?
-I take 3 of each. In the albergues, there are usually areas to hang your washed clothes. Drying time depends on the weather and if you can hang them inside or outside. Some places will have washers and dryers but many won't. I don't use smart wool items so can't comment on that.
10. Medical supplies- someone I know mentioned I should take some painkillers, bandage tape, baby powder, cooling lotions for feet. Any thoughts? If there is something absolutely unwise to not take - what is it?
-I take a small tube of antibiotic cream, a few blister bandages, painkillers. You don't need to overthink it. Keep in mind you can purchase anything you need along the way.
11. Head light (flashlight) - yes no? Necessary?
-I don't take a head light. I do have a small flashlight that has been handy on the few occasions I began a morning walking in the dark.
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover?
-I have both a rain cover for my backpack if it's a light rain and add a light weight poncho if it's a heavier rain.
ANYTHING ELSE?
-Light weight layers are good. At this time of year it will be cool in the mornings, evenings and during the day if it's raining. It's a good idea to have a lightweight fleece, cap and gloves. I also bring a very light water resistant shell, which when worn over the fleece, keeps me warm.
I’m probably overthinking, but I’m worried to end up being underprepared since the little voice in my head says - keep it as light as possible and I’m questioning EVERYTHING.
-Try to focus on the basics. As you start walking, you'll be surprised at how little you need for your day. Always remember that you will be able to find anything you need along the way. In addition to water, always start the day with a bit of food in your pack - at this time of year, you may have to walk a bit before finding a place open for breakfast. A piece of fruit, some nuts or bread and cheese, purchased the night before is important.
Wishing you a wonderful camino!
Alwaystake good manners and an open heart. Forget not the mistakes you will make: if they don't kill you they will teach you
samarkand.
I am loving all the tips - taking notes of all and deciding which are more suitable of many… it’s great to get so many perspectives from seasoned pilgrims. I appreciate each and everyone of you. I may, one day, have an opinion of my own to add to the pile … and smile along with youYes, although I have to laugh that the answers were not unanimous!
About the clothing, remember that with light layers, you can pile them all on to stay warm, so don't take any "heavy" items or dedicated cold-weather clothes. Having a hat and/or buff and gloves also gives flexible warmth and they are easily removed as you warm up during the day. Your rain gear on top of several layers also will insulate you. However, you should be sure to keep one warm layer dry in the day, so that you can use in in the evening.
What not to take: expectations.
What not to forget: to be kind, considerate and helpful when you can.
Enjoy every step.
Buen Camino.
Made me smile and I love that way of thinkingIt is just a long walk.
Lots to think about. One of the best things I took and which I hesitated taking was a rain poncho! it was the ugliest thing I ever saw but was a life saver on the couple of days it rained and rained hard! I could hear my Dad who is in Heaven whispering in my ear words he used to tell me as a teen…”it is NOT a fashion show!” Another saving grace was…carrying sandals and wearing hiking shoes! I had some issues with shin splints and one day I would have had to walk many miles had I not had those sandals to change into which somehow gave relief to the pain! Keep it simple!As it is my first and very spontaneous camino (I’m off to Europe in few days), I am trying to do it as wisely as I can within my own time and research/planning limitations. I’m definitely thinking about traveling very light, but I am afraid of going too barebones… so here are some questions that may help tons.
Note: doing the Primitivo route and it is supposed to rain every day next week.
1. Walking sticks- yes or no? Should I bring them from home or get them in Oviedo? (Making my amazon shopping list now)
2. Sleeping bag- is it absolutely necessary to have one?
3. Hiking pants - never owned a pair and I usually use running leggings for all of my one day hikes (when they happen)
4. Towel!!! - I’d never think of brining one, but I just read somewhere I should not forget one.
5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? I read there is no water on some stretches and it makes me think if that is enough (don’t want to overpack if I don’t have to.
6. Sandals - so many people mention I take sandals in addition to my hiking shoes - hiking sandals? Trying to figure out what they mean and if it just relevant for the summer. I’m assuming I should take sandals for showers etc
7. Locks - Yes? No? I don’t know what they are are for, but I see them mentioned.
8. Hair and body products - do I need my own shampoo and body wash, etc?
9. Socks and underwear- I’m thinking of 3-4 each assuming I can wash them as I go. Where do you usually dry them? Do they dry fast? What is the best type to take? I hear smart wool, but does it dry overnight?
10. Medical supplies- someone I know mentioned I should take some painkillers, bandage tape, baby powder, cooling lotions for feet. Any thoughts? If there is something absolutely unwise to not take - what is it?
11. Head light (flashlight) - yes no? Necessary?
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover?
ANYTHING ELSE?
I’m probably overthinking, but I’m worried to end up being underprepared since the little voice in my head says - keep it as light as possible and I’m questioning EVERYTHING.
Thank you to all of you who will take time to read this.
!. You will be glad that you have them (if they are aluminium or it if you are old school like me and just have your wooden Baston, it). The Primitivo was the most physically demanding of the Caminos which I have done. El Norte was hell because of the mud in the first week but the disnivel of the Primitivo was hard.As it is my first and very spontaneous camino (I’m off to Europe in few days), I am trying to do it as wisely as I can within my own time and research/planning limitations. I’m definitely thinking about traveling very light, but I am afraid of going too barebones… so here are some questions that may help tons.
Note: doing the Primitivo route and it is supposed to rain every day next week.
1. Walking sticks- yes or no? Should I bring them from home or get them in Oviedo? (Making my amazon shopping list now)
2. Sleeping bag- is it absolutely necessary to have one?
3. Hiking pants - never owned a pair and I usually use running leggings for all of my one day hikes (when they happen)
4. Towel!!! - I’d never think of brining one, but I just read somewhere I should not forget one.
5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? I read there is no water on some stretches and it makes me think if that is enough (don’t want to overpack if I don’t have to.
6. Sandals - so many people mention I take sandals in addition to my hiking shoes - hiking sandals? Trying to figure out what they mean and if it just relevant for the summer. I’m assuming I should take sandals for showers etc
7. Locks - Yes? No? I don’t know what they are are for, but I see them mentioned.
8. Hair and body products - do I need my own shampoo and body wash, etc?
9. Socks and underwear- I’m thinking of 3-4 each assuming I can wash them as I go. Where do you usually dry them? Do they dry fast? What is the best type to take? I hear smart wool, but does it dry overnight?
10. Medical supplies- someone I know mentioned I should take some painkillers, bandage tape, baby powder, cooling lotions for feet. Any thoughts? If there is something absolutely unwise to not take - what is it?
11. Head light (flashlight) - yes no? Necessary?
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover?
ANYTHING ELSE?
I’m probably overthinking, but I’m worried to end up being underprepared since the little voice in my head says - keep it as light as possible and I’m questioning EVERYTHING.
Thank you to all of you who will take time to read this.
What not to take: expectations.
Met a lot of disappointed pilgrims in 2012 when their Camino turned out nothing like "The Way"Expectations - absolutely! Why else would you go? Just be open and prepared for something different
Thin socks stand a better chance of drying than thick socks. Don't always have a sunny place on the clothesline.As it is my first and very spontaneous camino (I’m off to Europe in few days), I am trying to do it as wisely as I can within my own time and research/planning limitations. I’m definitely thinking about traveling very light, but I am afraid of going too barebones… so here are some questions that may help tons.
Note: doing the Primitivo route and it is supposed to rain every day next week.
1. Walking sticks- yes or no? Should I bring them from home or get them in Oviedo? (Making my amazon shopping list now)
2. Sleeping bag- is it absolutely necessary to have one?
3. Hiking pants - never owned a pair and I usually use running leggings for all of my one day hikes (when they happen)
4. Towel!!! - I’d never think of brining one, but I just read somewhere I should not forget one.
5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? I read there is no water on some stretches and it makes me think if that is enough (don’t want to overpack if I don’t have to.
6. Sandals - so many people mention I take sandals in addition to my hiking shoes - hiking sandals? Trying to figure out what they mean and if it just relevant for the summer. I’m assuming I should take sandals for showers etc
7. Locks - Yes? No? I don’t know what they are are for, but I see them mentioned.
8. Hair and body products - do I need my own shampoo and body wash, etc?
9. Socks and underwear- I’m thinking of 3-4 each assuming I can wash them as I go. Where do you usually dry them? Do they dry fast? What is the best type to take? I hear smart wool, but does it dry overnight?
10. Medical supplies- someone I know mentioned I should take some painkillers, bandage tape, baby powder, cooling lotions for feet. Any thoughts? If there is something absolutely unwise to not take - what is it?
11. Head light (flashlight) - yes no? Necessary?
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover?
ANYTHING ELSE?
I’m probably overthinking, but I’m worried to end up being underprepared since the little voice in my head says - keep it as light as possible and I’m questioning EVERYTHING.
Thank you to all of you who will take time to read this.
the ones i stayed in had disposable beddings provided by hostels or albergues. I did bring a light cover just in case, but never used it because of previous.For those of you who say no sleeping bag - what bedding do you bring/use?
Thanks for the comment about not shining headlight in people’s eyes! So easy to forget when getting engrossed in what one is doing and can be annoying to dangerous to catch someone off guard and momentarily blind them.My two cents:
Walking sticks- yes or no? Buy them there. Support the local economy and don't worry about losing expensive ones or getting them back home.
2. Sleeping bag- This time of year, absolutely
3. Hiking pants -leggings are fine if you don't get cold
4. Towel!!! - If you do not take one, you will drip dry in cold weather. Your decision.
5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? Yes, or pick up a plastic one and refill it when you find fountains.
6. Sandals - Just pick up flip flops or croc knock offs for showers if you want to avoid foot fungus.
7. Locks - no
8. Hair and body products - I suggest a shampoo bar
9. Socks and underwear- I wear one pair and take 2. I use sock liners in winter so only have those to wash. I wash the wool ones only about once a week.
10. Medical supplies- I don't take all that. There are pharmacies all along the way. A couple of bandaids, a needle, some alcohol wipes. That's about all I take.
11. Head light: That or a small flashlight. Preferably one with a red light and please take care not to shine it in people's eyes in the albergue.
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover? I use an ALTUS poncho which covers my pack. Otherwise you will need a pack cover this season.
What not to take: Expectations. Be willing to ride the wave of the Camino and change plans on a dime.
Buen Camino!
I was 49 at my CF and did not use Sticks. I crossed the Alps this year and was very pleased that I had sticks available. If your knees are totally ok, you don't need sticks.1. Walking sticks- yes or no? Should I bring them from home or get them in Oviedo? (Making my amazon shopping list now)
Yes, as far as I am informed you need your personal sleeping bag. I ordered a NatureHike super-light sleeping bag from Amazon for the Alps.2. Sleeping bag- is it absolutely necessary to have one?
Yes, a long one and/or a convertible. It can be cold and leggins don't offer the amount of insulating air. If it is hot, just use the leggins or shorten the Hiking Pant.3. Hiking pants - never owned a pair and I usually use running leggings for all of my one day hikes (when they happen)
Yes. I did order some microfiber barber-terry-towel. Cheap, dry fast and very easy in handling.4. Towel!!! - I’d never think of brining one, but I just read somewhere I should not forget one.
I walked in July on the CF and had 2 0.5l-bottles and never needed to fill up while walking. But I am known as "the camel of the family" and don't fall thirsty very easy.5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? I read there is no water on some stretches and it makes me think if that is enough (don’t want to overpack if I don’t have to.
In fall I recommend to use hiking-boots made of tech-fibre. You can bring lightweight sandals to walk on the afternoons or in the albergues.6. Sandals - so many people mention I take sandals in addition to my hiking shoes - hiking sandals? Trying to figure out what they mean and if it just relevant for the summer. I’m assuming I should take sandals for showers etc
Your valuables belong near your body. Anytime! Bring an double-s-hook.7. Locks - Yes? No? I don’t know what they are are for, but I see them mentioned.
I used a half of an Aleppo-Soap-Bar for all cleaning-needs. Dry products are less in weight. You don't need Shampoo, etc.8. Hair and body products - do I need my own shampoo and body wash, etc?
2 sets are ok, 3 sets are luxury. Merino-wool (or a mix) for underlayer. I used microfibre-underwear, dry fast, seamless. Anti-blister-Socks (Wrightsocks or similar)9. Socks and underwear- I’m thinking of 3-4 each assuming I can wash them as I go. Where do you usually dry them? Do they dry fast? What is the best type to take? I hear smart wool, but does it dry overnight?
Tape, band-aid and aspirin. You are not mid of a jungle, it's mid of Europe. You can buy more, if you need it. Bring magnesium-powder-pouches for the electrolytes. It works!10. Medical supplies- someone I know mentioned I should take some painkillers, bandage tape, baby powder, cooling lotions for feet. Any thoughts? If there is something absolutely unwise to not take - what is it?
Yes, you will need it! Don't use it inside dorms. Or use red light if available.11. Head light (flashlight) - yes no? Necessary?
Rain-cover!12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover?
Scarf / bandana / buff and hat. Sunblocker. Lightweight Rain-Jacket. Poncho: nopeANYTHING ELSE?
I also use a NatureHike light sleeping bag for my Caminos and it serves me well. They are possibly a bit small for some men, but perfect for me. Worth a look as the dimensions are shown. This is the model I have which is totally suitable for indoor use.I ordered a NatureHike super-light sleeping bag from Amazon
I bought a CW290L Extreme (6°C), 690gr. w/o compression bag, 89€.Naturehike Ultralight Envelope Sleeping Bag, Backpack Portable Compact Lightweight Warm Weather Sleeping Bag for Adults Kids, Backpacking, Camping, Hiking with Compression Sack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BLB59V2/?tag=casaivar02-20
I read through all of your notes. #thankful! But this is something no one mentioned before and I think it’s a brilliant idea! Thank youBring magnesium-powder-pouches for the electrolytes. It works!
This is a little like the electrolyte tablets I used, but mine have more than just magnesium. I used these Nuun ones because they’re all natural and I’m a bit funny about artificial sweeteners etc. They taste nice, were great in the heat, and helped because I have various difficulties with muscles and keeping hydrated. I now swear by them.I read through all of your notes. #thankful! But this is something no one mentioned before and I think it’s a brilliant idea! Thank you
I remember exactly how that feels, I think I read up so much, and took all the advice I could. Here goes……How exciting, your first Camino
My knees are totally okay, but I use sticks almost every step of the way. The only time that I stow them on my pack is when I'm going through a busy city.If your knees are totally ok, you don't need sticks.
If you're not worried about having something all natural, are electrolyte packages easily available in farmacias in Spain?these Nuun ones because they’re all natural and I’m a bit funny about artificial sweeteners etc. They taste nice, were great in the heat, and helped because I have various difficulties with muscles and keeping hydrated. I now swear by them.
It's odd, the bag you linked to claims to be goose down. $22 seems awfully cheap for down. The other colors talk about polyester or silk-like cotton. Their description is a bit confusing. And they hint at an XL version that might be good for a larger male, but don't list it. Do you think this bag is warm enough for a March albergue camino france?I also use a NatureHike light sleeping bag for my Caminos and it serves me well. They are possibly a bit small for some men, but perfect for me. Worth a look as the dimensions are shown. This is the model I have which is totally suitable for indoor use.
Naturehike Ultralight Envelope Sleeping Bag, Backpack Portable Compact Lightweight Warm Weather Sleeping Bag for Adults Kids, Backpacking, Camping, Hiking with Compression Sack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BLB59V2/?tag=casaivar02-20
The weights cited in the latter do rely on you being a petite female!Here are some links to two packing lists I thought were helpful. In October I think you'll need a sleeping bag unless you always staying in hotels.
Suggested Packing List for Your Camino de Santiago
Here is my personal Camino de Santiago packing list that I offer as a suggestion for your own trip planning.www.pilgrimagetraveler.com
Yes. Most well known sports brands are to be found. If not, ask for ‘dioralyte’ - often used to promote rehydration when suffering from severe digestive issues. (I can’t spell diarrhoea - but happily my phone can!)If you're not worried about having something all natural, are electrolyte packages easily available in farmacias in Spain?
That's true, and I wouldn't make it. But I thought it was a well presented list with photos and good descriptions.The weights cited in the latter do rely on you being a petite female!
If it concerns you, tie one of your boots to an obviously different sized boot of a friend or colleague and vice-versa. Often done to make skis less prone to being stolen. You might be very unlucky and encounter a boot-less thief with odd sized feet, but it’s unlikely.7. Locks - brought them first time to tie our boots together as had read about people accidentally taking the wrong boots, only used it a couple of times, never brought it again.
As I walked on my fifth day from Puente de la Reina to Los Arcos the Magnesium saved my day!I read through all of your notes. #thankful! But this is something no one mentioned before and I think it’s a brilliant idea! Thank you
One thing I've not seen anyone else mention; I had silk longjohns for May and October trips. Loved them. Light, dry easily. kept me warm without extra weight out on top. I feel chilly when others may not and this works for me at home here in the Pacific Northwest also.My thoughts may be a little late but for what they’re worth…
1. Walking sticks — I thought I might pick these up when I arrived in SJPDP because the first day out from there on the Frances is a long, steep climb. I then didn’t bother buying any because a) being conscious of the weight of my pack, they seemed heavy items to carry when not in use, and b) I felt they might actually hinder me, because I wouldn’t easily be able to reach for things as I walked (camera every few minutes, phone for maps, water, etc). Most of the other pilgrims I saw on the first sections had poles—my partner and I were unusual—but after that they seemed slowly to disappear. I am VERY glad I didn’t bother with them. I say this as someone who sometimes uses poles at home because I have a health condition which gives me dislocations, and they provide an upper body workout. You’d think that poles would be a good idea for me. It was freeing to not have them. But that’s just me. For other people, and for me in the past, they were essential.
2. Sleeping bag — I stayed in private rooms so sheets and quilts were provided, but was aware that albergues had rules about everyone bringing their own sleeping bag. You’ll need something, as others have said.
3. Hiking pants — If the running pants work for you, stick with what you know? Do you have a pair for colder weather as well as for in the heat?
4. Towel — I guess you could shake yourself dry after showers. A small travel towel might be a better plan.
5. Bottle — I LOVE my current system which comprises two of these 1 litre platypus water bottles https://www.platy.com/ie/bottles/softbottle-1.0l/softbottle.html, (the ones with the push-pull-cap). (Edit… just to add that on hot days I often drank most of my two litres and then filled up again. With the two bottles, I sometimes only part-filled each, then refilled along the way. I also added Nuun electrolytes because I dehydrate easily (they’re an extra weight but essential for me). By having two bottles, you can make sure they’re well balanced on either side of you). They roll down, so no problem with carrying them on a plane. They weigh almost nothing. My backpack is an ultralight Gossamer Gear G4-20, which has brilliant, large side pockets that are easy to reach whilst wearing the pack. So, I just put the two bottles there and sip from them alternately. They’re lighter than a water bladder and I can regulate their weight. They’re very easy to fill and you can see how much water you have left, which isn’t the case with bladders. They’re tough so can be used in theory for years (I use mine for hikes from home all the time) so you’re cutting down on plastic usage by not regularly buying new bottles. I know other people swear by bladder systems though, and used to use one myself. As a side note, I originally planned to use Smart Water bottles but then talked with Spanish friends who’ve never heard of Smart Water. I never saw it in shops along the Camino. Where are other forum members finding their Smart Water bottles?!
6. Sandals - I swear by my EVA Birkenstocks. They’re super light, and comfortable enough to wear around town as well as around showers and albergues etc. I wear them when my walking shoes need to air out/dry off, and also to give my feet some air. My partner took some too, but didn’t like them because his were a little too large. You have to make sure they fit really well, to your feet as they are now (my partner ‘sized up’ as you would for walking shoes, thinking his feet would be larger at the end of the day. I didn’t do this because I already owned my sandals and use them around the house).
7. Locks - I stayed in private rooms so others know best about this.
8. Hair and body products - nowhere will provide these. I resented carrying some of them so sometimes bought them in supermarkets, used what I needed that day, then left them with the hotel/albergue, either for other pilgrims to use, or as a gift for the owners/cleaners. I did squirt half a tube of toothpaste down a toilet because I refused to carry the extra weight of it!That felt horribly wasteful but… I’m too petite to carry extra weight which isn’t needed, and it adds up.
9. Socks and underwear — 3 or 4 pairs of merino socks, 2 pairs of pants. Wash and hang to dry. Extra socks are helpful so you can change them as soon as you need to and keep your feet fresh.
10. Medical supplies — take a basic kit. Make sure you have safety pins, a needle and thread (depending on your approach to blisters), lint/gauze padding, medical tape, sticking plasters/band aid, alcohol wipes. You may want an anti-chafing stick. Definitely paracetamol and ibuprofen.
11. Head light (flashlight). I took a super light Petzl Bindi, even though we stayed in private rooms. I only used it once. I liked knowing that if I had to walk in an unlit area at night, I wouldn’t be dependant on my phone battery. Others will have better advice regarding albergues and whats needed/etiquette, etc.
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover. The problems with a backpack rain cover are that once it’s on, you can’t access your stuff, and that they can blow off in high winds (I once lost my Osprey one on the Cairngorms plateau in Scotland. Not ideal!). A poncho will cover both you and your backpack. I use waterproof/resistant bags inside my backpack so don’t really worry about it getting wet, plus the poncho also sorts that out. I was originally on the fence about waterproof bags/dry sacks, thinking ‘just use freezer bags’, or ‘but they weigh an extra x/y amount!’. But I gushed about how much I loved them each day on my camino! I had Granite Gear ‘air zipditty’ bags, but now also have Exped fully waterproof ones. The benefits of them are that you can easily unpack your backpack at the end of the day without taking out each item individually—it’s a case of, for example: the blue bag for larger items of clothing; the purple one for electronics; the green one for underwear; the little blue one for medical and bathroom stuff… etc—; that they’re tough, whereas my freezer bags ripped, but also very smooth so they’ll slide out of your backpack easily, no tugging; they’re quick to pack away in the mornings; and you know your stuff will be dry inside them.
Anything else…
Have you thought about things like a lightweight insulating layer? A down jacket, or something similar, might be useful for this season’s cool/cold evenings when at altitude, for example. I wore a summer cap and took sunglasses. I bought a buff along the way because even in August, mornings were cool. You may need more warmth (beanie, gloves, etc).
Electronics… chargers, socket adapters, a long cable in case the power point isn’t near your bed…
A couple of pegs or pins to attach your clothes to a communal rack or line while they dry. (I didn’t need these because I had private rooms and plenty of afternoon sun, but know that they can be essential).
I’m with you on being minimal! For the most part, anything you struggle for, you can pick up along the route. Layers for warmth are a possible exception to this given that by the time you’re up a mountain, it’s too late to buy extras (I’ve learned this the hard way).
Agreed!So you see, the moral of the tale is that a polite reminder works wonders in modifying behaviour. Although sometimes you may need to channel your inner Godzilla.
Happy Camino, OP, and remember what to say if you are awakened by a totally unnecessary light.
Yes they areIf you're not worried about having something all natural, are electrolyte packages easily available in farmacias in Spain?
Good idea, we photograph everything important and email copies to ourselves, this way we don’t have to carry anything extra, but copies are at hand.If walking with someone, make copies of or your ID, Passport Insurance and give to them and vise versa. Just incase your lose yours or your back pack is stolen. If walking alone I would still make copies and put the copies in another place other than my originals....
5, 10, or 25 pound size?Re sleeping bag - essential, but one that packs to the size of a bag of sugar!
A practice of mine is to have all key personal documents, having been scanned, accessible in a file online. I walk (and travel) a lot on my own and should I, perchance, become separated from my passport, for instance, I can, at a police station, say, pull up a copy.If walking with someone, make copies of or your ID, Passport Insurance and give to them and vise versa. Just incase your lose yours or your back pack is stolen. If walking alone I would still make copies and put the copies in another place other than my originals....
Just my opinion, not any kind of truth.
1. Walking sticks. Yes, and go to YouTube to learn how to use them correctly. If you buy them before you leave you will have a wider selection.
2. Sleeping bag. Not unless you're camping.
3. Hiking pants. No. Whatever is comfortable.
4. Towel. Maybe a small thin one, light, that you can easily wring out. I didn't bring one and didn't miss it.
5. Bottle. A liter is fine. I was worried about the meseta but found the warnings to be exaggerated, unless perhaps you are walking it In the heat of summer.
6. Sandals. I'm intrigued by sandals but don't know much about them. I'm curious too.
7. Locks. No.
8. Hair and body products. If you stay in albergues, yes. Hostals/pensións, generally no, but not always.
9. Socks and underwear. I brought 3 pairs of each, which was adequate. Sometimes didn't dry overnight - depended on how early I finished for the day, and whether the sun was out. But two days to dry wasn't a problem, since I had three pairs. It would definitely have been better to have something that dried more quickly instead of the cotton underwear I had. I wish I had brought a few clothespins,
10. Medical supplies. I didn't bring any. The only thing I wished I had was Band-Aids, to wrap toes and prevent blisters. Another Pilgrim gave me some.
11. Head light (flashlight). Yes. The sun doesn't rise until 8:15 or so. If you leave after 8:00, you don't need one.
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover? Don't know.
Yeah, you may be overthinking it, which I suspect will lead to overpacking. I've done the Camino twice (French, not primitivo), and both times I wish I had brought less.
Where do you shop?! Pounds?!5, 10, or 25 pound size?
My thoughts may be a little late but for what they’re worth…
Hi Lhollo, what a hugely informative and helpful thread this is and thank you for your detailed contribution.1. Walking sticks — I thought I might pick these up when I arrived in SJPDP because the first day out from there on the Frances is a long, steep climb. I then didn’t bother buying any because a) being conscious of the weight of my pack, they seemed heavy items to carry when not in use, and b) I felt they might actually hinder me, because I wouldn’t easily be able to reach for things as I walked (camera every few minutes, phone for maps, water, etc). Most of the other pilgrims I saw on the first sections had poles—my partner and I were unusual—but after that they seemed slowly to disappear. I am VERY glad I didn’t bother with them. I say this as someone who sometimes uses poles at home because I have a health condition which gives me dislocations, and they provide an upper body workout. You’d think that poles would be a good idea for me. It was freeing to not have them. But that’s just me. For other people, and for me in the past, they were essential.
2. Sleeping bag — I stayed in private rooms so sheets and quilts were provided, but was aware that albergues had rules about everyone bringing their own sleeping bag. You’ll need something, as others have said.
3. Hiking pants — If the running pants work for you, stick with what you know? Do you have a pair for colder weather as well as for in the heat?
4. Towel — I guess you could shake yourself dry after showers. A small travel towel might be a better plan.
5. Bottle — I LOVE my current system which comprises two of these 1 litre platypus water bottles https://www.platy.com/ie/bottles/softbottle-1.0l/softbottle.html, (the ones with the push-pull-cap). (Edit… just to add that on hot days I often drank most of my two litres and then filled up again. With the two bottles, I sometimes only part-filled each, then refilled along the way. I also added Nuun electrolytes because I dehydrate easily (they’re an extra weight but essential for me). By having two bottles, you can make sure they’re well balanced on either side of you). They roll down, so no problem with carrying them on a plane. They weigh almost nothing. My backpack is an ultralight Gossamer Gear G4-20, which has brilliant, large side pockets that are easy to reach whilst wearing the pack. So, I just put the two bottles there and sip from them alternately. They’re lighter than a water bladder and I can regulate their weight. They’re very easy to fill and you can see how much water you have left, which isn’t the case with bladders. They’re tough so can be used in theory for years (I use mine for hikes from home all the time) so you’re cutting down on plastic usage by not regularly buying new bottles. I know other people swear by bladder systems though, and used to use one myself. As a side note, I originally planned to use Smart Water bottles but then talked with Spanish friends who’ve never heard of Smart Water. I never saw it in shops along the Camino. Where are other forum members finding their Smart Water bottles?!
6. Sandals - I swear by my EVA Birkenstocks. They’re super light, and comfortable enough to wear around town as well as around showers and albergues etc. I wear them when my walking shoes need to air out/dry off, and also to give my feet some air. My partner took some too, but didn’t like them because his were a little too large. You have to make sure they fit really well, to your feet as they are now (my partner ‘sized up’ as you would for walking shoes, thinking his feet would be larger at the end of the day. I didn’t do this because I already owned my sandals and use them around the house).
7. Locks - I stayed in private rooms so others know best about this.
8. Hair and body products - nowhere will provide these. I resented carrying some of them so sometimes bought them in supermarkets, used what I needed that day, then left them with the hotel/albergue, either for other pilgrims to use, or as a gift for the owners/cleaners. I did squirt half a tube of toothpaste down a toilet because I refused to carry the extra weight of it!That felt horribly wasteful but… I’m too petite to carry extra weight which isn’t needed, and it adds up.
9. Socks and underwear — 3 or 4 pairs of merino socks, 2 pairs of pants. Wash and hang to dry. Extra socks are helpful so you can change them as soon as you need to and keep your feet fresh.
10. Medical supplies — take a basic kit. Make sure you have safety pins, a needle and thread (depending on your approach to blisters), lint/gauze padding, medical tape, sticking plasters/band aid, alcohol wipes. You may want an anti-chafing stick. Definitely paracetamol and ibuprofen.
11. Head light (flashlight). I took a super light Petzl Bindi, even though we stayed in private rooms. I only used it once. I liked knowing that if I had to walk in an unlit area at night, I wouldn’t be dependant on my phone battery. Others will have better advice regarding albergues and whats needed/etiquette, etc.
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover. The problems with a backpack rain cover are that once it’s on, you can’t access your stuff, and that they can blow off in high winds (I once lost my Osprey one on the Cairngorms plateau in Scotland. Not ideal!). A poncho will cover both you and your backpack. I use waterproof/resistant bags inside my backpack so don’t really worry about it getting wet, plus the poncho also sorts that out. I was originally on the fence about waterproof bags/dry sacks, thinking ‘just use freezer bags’, or ‘but they weigh an extra x/y amount!’. But I gushed about how much I loved them each day on my camino! I had Granite Gear ‘air zipditty’ bags, but now also have Exped fully waterproof ones. The benefits of them are that you can easily unpack your backpack at the end of the day without taking out each item individually—it’s a case of, for example: the blue bag for larger items of clothing; the purple one for electronics; the green one for underwear; the little blue one for medical and bathroom stuff… etc—; that they’re tough, whereas my freezer bags ripped, but also very smooth so they’ll slide out of your backpack easily, no tugging; they’re quick to pack away in the mornings; and you know your stuff will be dry inside them.
Anything else…
Have you thought about things like a lightweight insulating layer? A down jacket, or something similar, might be useful for this season’s cool/cold evenings when at altitude, for example. I wore a summer cap and took sunglasses. I bought a buff along the way because even in August, mornings were cool. You may need more warmth (beanie, gloves, etc).
Electronics… chargers, socket adapters, a long cable in case the power point isn’t near your bed…
A couple of pegs or pins to attach your clothes to a communal rack or line while they dry. (I didn’t need these because I had private rooms and plenty of afternoon sun, but know that they can be essential).
I’m with you on being minimal! For the most part, anything you struggle for, you can pick up along the route. Layers for warmth are a possible exception to this given that by the time you’re up a mountain, it’s too late to buy extras (I’ve learned this the hard way).
1. Walking sticks- I find them helpful. Usually buy them once I am off the plane since I have run into problems bringing them as carry-on. I usually arrive I; Europe a few days early so I have time to shop. If you are thinking of buying hem in Oviedo, have you though about where to buy them? The Oviedo Decathlon looks like a small one so they might not stock them. An alternative might be the sporting goods section at El Corte Ingles which I have used before.
Nice, comprehensive answer. You carry milk instead of water? I never heard of anyone doing that before.1. If you are not flying direct, then I suggest you get your poles in Oviedo. Regulations (regardless of rumors) won’t allow the poles in carry-on bags. But get poles. Yes.
2. If you are concerned about bulk and weight and the expense of a sleeping bag, I suggest that for this time of year you take a silk liner and a down camping quilt that you can stuff inside it. These are available on Amazon. I love my Sea-to-Summit sack because it has stretchy side-panels for a less restrictive sleep.
3. I did really like my Prana convertible hiking pants for the autumn 2019 walk I was on. I wore running tights underneath, unzipped the bottoms by mid-day, dropped to the running tights on the one day that it was warm enough, and whenever it rained I had a water resistant shell in the pants. And they are tidy enough for cultural sites and restaurant.
4. Towel. YES! For quick-drying without the life-regret, get a peshtow/Pashtow/foutah off Amazon — they are cotton, can double as a shawl, are light-weight, and they actually work.
5. If you are a water drinker, yes, take your own bottles. For light-weight ease of use many hikers like the “Smartwater” bottles. They slide in and out of pockets easily and have flip tops. I don’t use them because I buy new bottles of milk each day.
6. On an autumn Camino I took Keen Mary-Janes for walking around town and dinner at day’s end. I do not take flip flops for showers because I do not want to break my neck. After showering and drying off, I put a little Clomotrizole cream on my feet to ward off any fungus from communal showers. In my estimation that’s less dangerous and more effective at the intended job of “shower sandals”
7. I’d not take a lock. Get a dry sack and take your valuables with you to the shower/restaurant etc. I have a tiny collapsible Osprey pack that becomes the size of a donut in my pocket and can carry a full grocery load if needed. Dry sack inside that, and off you go.
8. Yes, you need your own personal washing products. Shampoo bars and conditioner bars are available online. Lots of people like “LUSH”, but if you have scent allergies or skin allergies, I’d stay away. LUSH products give me headaches and hives, as well as the sneezes and watering eyes.
9. There are more and more dryers available, so you can get lucky that way, or put undies over radiators, hang off pack if they aren’t totally dry, use hair-dryer if you are in a hotel, etc. And yes to Smartwool (more comfortable than Icebreaker) or to Patagonia athletic undies (synthetic, but I still really like them for being quick drying, non-creeping, and somehow, not prone to picking up odors from being put through paces).
10. I think only you can decide that, but I take hiker’s wool to prevent blisters, and I use chafing prevention stick (from Compeed is my favourit) on my feet. I find tape makes things worse for me rather than better as far as blister prevention goes. - it‘s just uncomfortable. The one time I had a blister and it needed care, I bought things as recommended and *applied by* the pharmacist in their little first-aid room. Ibuprofen is much more expensive in the EU, and way more powerful. Take your own If you use it.
11. I found a headlamp necessary for both autumn caminos because it stays dark until pretty late in the morning. Black diamond makes a USB-C rechargeable one that is lightweight. Do not use in shared sleeping quarters.
12. If you don’t have your pack yet, get one with the rain-cover included, and still get yourself some collapsible dry sacks to separate laundry, medical and tech supplies.
As much as possible, I try to keep my Camino stuff as re-useable in regular life as possible. My backpacks are my primary grocery carts now… I gave up using car or transit to get to work, so my boots are my primary transit now… which means socks that are put to the task, and trousers that can go from walking through snow to having office meetings (check out the Lolë company, and MEC brand if you are in Canada). Merino shirts, sweaters… and good layers for weather.
I do always take a poncho and rain-skirt combination for rain. I gave up on rain-pants… one just gets sweaty legs…
Your post is perfect. Couldn't have said it better myself. Your experience is shining through.1. Walking sticks- I find them helpful. Usually buy them once I am off the plane since I have run into problems bringing them as carry-on. I usually arrive I; Europe a few days early so I have time to shop. If you are thinking of buying hem in Oviedo, have you though about where to buy them? The Oviedo Decathlon looks like a small one so they might not stock them. An alternative might be the sporting goods section at El Corte Ingles which I have used before.
3. Hiking pants - can be helpful if you anticipate cold mornings and hot days.
4. Towel!!! - After several caminos, I switched to using a bandana in place of a towel. Lighter weight, washes easily and drys quick.
5. Bottle - I have used the same aluminum water bottle for all my caminos. I saw lots of comments suggestion buying bottled water, I have seen even more empty bottles littering the Camino.
6. Sandals - nice to have something to switch into at the end of the day to give your shoes time to dry out.
7. Locks - Never needed one.
8. Hair and body products - I use a bar of soap for body, hair and laundry.
9. Socks and underwear- I carry two pair of each. Rarely use the second pair but good to have. Trying hand washing what you plan to bring to see what the drying time is like.
11. Head light (flashlight) - nice to have if you set out before sunrise. Be mindful of others in shared rooms. If you pay attention to where you put things the night before, it is possible to dress and pack in the dim lighting. Everything you have should be identifiable by touch. If you are using a headlamp on the trail, don’t suddenly turn and blind someone with your light.
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover? I use a poncho instead of either one.
ANYTHING ELSE?
A printed list of important phone numbers. Useful if you lose your phone. I can’t remember anyone’s phone number since they are stored in my phone.
Insurance information and important medical information, list of medications, preferably on your phone and in written form. For the prescriptions, try to carry the generic and not the brand name. If you have to seek medical care, having a form with you to be filled out greatly improves your odds of filing a claim. Spanish health care is not used to dealing with insurance forms, so you will need to file a claim in most cases. Good luck on getting someone to fill out a form after you have returned home. In some cases, you may be asked to pay up front before service is rendered.
An extra credit card carried separately. If you are walking with someone, have them carry the extra card for added security. Also, helpful to carry a non 800 phone number for any cards you have with you.
Some safety pins come in handy to use for clothes drying. They work better with a breeze and don’t get “borrowed” by other pilgrims as often as clothes pins (pegs). Also great for attaching socks that haven’t dried to your backpack.
I find a knife useful. I used to carry a good Swiss army version, but now I do only carry on, so I pick up a cheap kitchen knife in Spain. Great for chorizo and cheese. Also handy for oblivious idiots in headlamps. A spoon can be handy if you like a morning yogurt. A corkscrew can be a lifesaver.
A lightweight reusable grocery bag for those afternoon runs to the bakery or grocery store. Great also to carry items if you want to check your pack on the plane.
If you are carrying electronics that need to be recharged, an adaptor might be required. I’ve bought several in Spanish hardware stores for 1€. Try to find one that can charge multiple devices.
An extra pair of glasses if you are blind without them.
Hope this helps with your planning.
The second card is an absolute must in my world. I'm American, but live in Europe and have a ton of difficulty with being flagged for fraud even while at home. Thinking I'd get ahead of the problem I called both banks and filled out the forms on my online banking accounts notifying them I was going to be walking the Camino in Portugal and Spain. First attempt to withdraw cash got my ATM locked for the rest of the trip ... thankfully I had an unusually large amount of money in my checking account so I was able to use my debit card ... held my breathe each and every time I used it though. LOL1. Walking sticks- I find them helpful. Usually buy them once I am off the plane since I have run into problems bringing them as carry-on. I usually arrive I; Europe a few days early so I have time to shop. If you are thinking of buying hem in Oviedo, have you though about where to buy them? The Oviedo Decathlon looks like a small one so they might not stock them. An alternative might be the sporting goods section at El Corte Ingles which I have used before.
3. Hiking pants - can be helpful if you anticipate cold mornings and hot days.
4. Towel!!! - After several caminos, I switched to using a bandana in place of a towel. Lighter weight, washes easily and drys quick.
5. Bottle - I have used the same aluminum water bottle for all my caminos. I saw lots of comments suggestion buying bottled water, I have seen even more empty bottles littering the Camino.
6. Sandals - nice to have something to switch into at the end of the day to give your shoes time to dry out.
7. Locks - Never needed one.
8. Hair and body products - I use a bar of soap for body, hair and laundry.
9. Socks and underwear- I carry two pair of each. Rarely use the second pair but good to have. Trying hand washing what you plan to bring to see what the drying time is like.
11. Head light (flashlight) - nice to have if you set out before sunrise. Be mindful of others in shared rooms. If you pay attention to where you put things the night before, it is possible to dress and pack in the dim lighting. Everything you have should be identifiable by touch. If you are using a headlamp on the trail, don’t suddenly turn and blind someone with your light.
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover? I use a poncho instead of either one.
ANYTHING ELSE?
A printed list of important phone numbers. Useful if you lose your phone. I can’t remember anyone’s phone number since they are stored in my phone.
Insurance information and important medical information, list of medications, preferably on your phone and in written form. For the prescriptions, try to carry the generic and not the brand name. If you have to seek medical care, having a form with you to be filled out greatly improves your odds of filing a claim. Spanish health care is not used to dealing with insurance forms, so you will need to file a claim in most cases. Good luck on getting someone to fill out a form after you have returned home. In some cases, you may be asked to pay up front before service is rendered.
An extra credit card carried separately. If you are walking with someone, have them carry the extra card for added security. Also, helpful to carry a non 800 phone number for any cards you have with you.
Some safety pins come in handy to use for clothes drying. They work better with a breeze and don’t get “borrowed” by other pilgrims as often as clothes pins (pegs). Also great for attaching socks that haven’t dried to your backpack.
I find a knife useful. I used to carry a good Swiss army version, but now I do only carry on, so I pick up a cheap kitchen knife in Spain. Great for chorizo and cheese. Also handy for oblivious idiots in headlamps. A spoon can be handy if you like a morning yogurt. A corkscrew can be a lifesaver.
A lightweight reusable grocery bag for those afternoon runs to the bakery or grocery store. Great also to carry items if you want to check your pack on the plane.
If you are carrying electronics that need to be recharged, an adaptor might be required. I’ve bought several in Spanish hardware stores for 1€. Try to find one that can charge multiple devices.
An extra pair of glasses if you are blind without them.
Hope this helps with your planning.
Sorry for being slow to return here! I did make a couple of tweaks to my G4-20 backpack but they’re probably very specific to me (I’m tiny, and have had recent trouble with lower back trapped nerves). But I found the backpack extremely comfortable, and easy to adjust so that it was more ideal that than I thought possible (I tried countless others).Hi Lhollo, what a hugely informative and helpful thread this is and thank you for your detailed contribution.
I am interested in your choice of the Gossamer Gear G4-20 as your backpack. I have bought the G4-20 for my CF starting mid April’22. Most of my multi-day hikes in Australia have necessarily involved a framed pack to support the weight of all food and shelter.
I am particularly interested if you have any advice or anecdotes specific to your pack and also what you found to be the most convenient packing order.
Agree with everything on here except flipflops/crocs! I always take walking sandalsMy two cents:
Walking sticks- yes or no? Buy them there. Support the local economy and don't worry about losing expensive ones or getting them back home.
2. Sleeping bag- This time of year, absolutely
3. Hiking pants -leggings are fine if you don't get cold
4. Towel!!! - If you do not take one, you will drip dry in cold weather. Your decision.
5. Bottle - is a liter one okay? Yes, or pick up a plastic one and refill it when you find fountains.
6. Sandals - Just pick up flip flops or croc knock offs for showers if you want to avoid foot fungus.
7. Locks - no
8. Hair and body products - I suggest a shampoo bar
9. Socks and underwear- I wear one pair and take 2. I use sock liners in winter so only have those to wash. I wash the wool ones only about once a week.
10. Medical supplies- I don't take all that. There are pharmacies all along the way. A couple of bandaids, a needle, some alcohol wipes. That's about all I take.
11. Head light: That or a small flashlight. Preferably one with a red light and please take care not to shine it in people's eyes in the albergue.
12. Waterproof backpack vs backpack rain cover? I use an ALTUS poncho which covers my pack. Otherwise you will need a pack cover this season.
What not to take: Expectations. Be willing to ride the wave of the Camino and change plans on a dime.
Buen Camino!
I used flip flops in showers only. Keen sandals otherwise. My feet totally rebel to boots.Agree with everything on here except flipflops/crocs! I always take walking sandals(But that’s because I have been known to twist my ankle wearing flipflops in my own garden )
I travel from N America, and I would never put my backpack in the hold. I usually bring a suitcase with my pre and post Camino tourist clothing, and my poles go in there. I send the suitcase on to Santiago after arrival to Spain. (but not the poles of course!)if you are flying long-haul e.g. from N. America/anitpodes, your poles will go in your backpack (along with your Swiss Army knife) which you check in as hold luggage.
No, this statement is not correct, as @trecile points out. My backpack stays with me, in the cabin, containing almost all of my belongings. Only my poles, Swiss army knife, and maybe my sleeping bag are checked in luggage - in separate disposable packaging or bag. I include the sleeping bag because it is a bulky nuisance on the plane, and it would be easily replaced.if you are flying long-haul e.g. from N. America/anitpodes, your poles will go in your backpack (along with your Swiss Army knife) which you check in as hold luggage.
Point taken, but you check something, right? On long haul flights, this doesn't cost you anything. I think a lot of people posting are from Europe and accustomed to flying on short haul, budget flights where there are a lot of hidden costs, e.g. checking in luggage, and even a small bag containing forbidden items will cost as much, if not more, than the actual ticket. Hence they will do anything to avoid having to check in luggage and so what to do about walking poles becomes a real issue. If I lived in Europe, I'd probably just buy a cheap Decathlon pair when I arrive.No, this statement is not correct, as @trecile points out. My backpack stays with me, in the cabin, containing almost all of my belongings. Only my poles, Swiss army knife, and maybe my sleeping bag are checked in luggage - in separate disposable packaging or bag. I include the sleeping bag because it is a bulky nuisance on the plane, and it would be easily replaced.
It depends on the fare you have chosen. Even on major airlines now, there are transatlantic fares that don't include a checked bag. I always buy the next level up (often about 15% more), which does include a checked bag as well as more flexible cancellation terms.Point taken, but you check something, right? On long haul flights, this doesn't cost you anything.
I live in Germany and that's what I did in October. 9 euros each.Point taken, but you check something, right? On long haul flights, this doesn't cost you anything. I think a lot of people posting are from Europe and accustomed to flying on short haul, budget flights where there are a lot of hidden costs, e.g. checking in luggage, and even a small bag containing forbidden items will cost as much, if not more, than the actual ticket. Hence they will do anything to avoid having to check in luggage and so what to do about walking poles becomes a real issue. If I lived in Europe, I'd probably just buy a cheap Decathlon pair when I arrive.
Coming from the US. What euro card do you suggest?Money - a cash card (pre-loaded with euros) is good because you have two, keep them separate so if one is stolen/lost, you start to use the other one which instantly cancels the first.
Coming from the US I don't see the value of putting money on a Euro cash card, which probably involves paying fees.Coming from the US. What euro card do you suggest?
How did your G4-20 work out for you?Hi Lhollo, what a hugely informative and helpful thread this is and thank you for your detailed contribution.
I am interested in your choice of the Gossamer Gear G4-20 as your backpack. I have bought the G4-20 for my CF starting mid April’22. Most of my multi-day hikes in Australia have necessarily involved a framed pack to support the weight of all food and shelter.
I am particularly interested if you have any advice or anecdotes specific to your pack and also what you found to be the most convenient packing order.
Covid intervened so we are now starting from SJPdP on 13 September.How did your G4-20 work out for you?
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