A donation to the forum removes ads for you, and supports Ivar in his work running it

Advertisement

Yet another health threat to worry about

peregrina2000

Moderator
Staff member
I don’t mean to sound dismissive, because this is potentially another non-trivial health issue to consider for anyone who will spend days and days walking outside in Spain. It is a vector for West Nile virus.

 

amancio

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances, Norte, Primit, Salvador, Portug, Arag, Ingles, VdlP, Leban-Vadin, Fisterra, Invierno, LePuy
And the Congo-Crimea fever is back too... keep your eyes on tick bites, and go to a health center inmediately if you have been bitten by one, do not try to remove ti yourself unless you really know what you are doing!
 

Kathar1na

Member
Camino(s) past & future
To Santiago and beyond (from home; Voie de Tours; Camino Francés; Biskaya; Manche; Via Brabantica)
Last edited:

biarritzdon

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF11, CF12, CP13, CF14, CA15, S.Anton15, CF&CI15
Ditch Pig16, CF&CP17, CdN18, CM18, CF18, LePuy19
I saw a recent radar image of dust being blown from the Sahara towards Spain. When I was at San Anton these storms but not only drop dust on us at night but also lots of Tiger mosquitoes.
 

David

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Moissac to Santiago Spring 2005 was the first foray.
Hhmmm I think we may need an axe thread .. weight, style, how to carry it, actual effectiveness against aliens and/or zombies - sharpened carbon head or traditional carbon steel ..... whether refugios should provide free grinders ... oh ... the choices!!!
 

Albertagirl

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015); Aragones-Frances (2016); VdlP-Sanabres (2017); Madrid-Frances-Invierno (2019)Levante
Some years ago I experienced an unpleasant encounter with a man in southern Ontario who suffered from the results of being infected with West Nile Virus. Judging by his behaviour, he had neurological consequences, as well as physical symptoms. I would never minimize the threat of this disease. But I believe (hope) that it is rare among humans.
 

ranthr

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
C Frances 2005, 2007
Le Puy en Velay -SdC 2009
Via de la Plata 2011
gr 653 from Oloron to Puente la Reina 2012
Gr65 from le Puy to Figeac 2013
Irun to Santander 2013
Porto to SdC 2014
Astorga to SdC 2015
I’ll keep at home. Enough mosquitos where I live, lots of places to walk,not so hot either. Midnightsun as well.
 

peregrina2000

Moderator
Staff member
Funny how different the reactions are. When I read the article, it sort of made me think —well the only thing we can do in this dangerous world is be careful and manage the risks the best we can. No way are we ever going to have a totally safe camino or a safe place anywhere in the world for that matter. So in some weird way, it made me think I’d be going back to the camino sooner rather than later.
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
the only thing we can do in this dangerous world is be careful and manage the risks the best we can. No way are we ever going to have a totally safe camino or a safe place anywhere in the world for that matter.
Well, said, Laurie. That is the enduring lesson of all of this. Whether we like it or not, the world is a dangerous place, and our birth certificate comes with the guarantee of a death certificate.
That's not morbid, but just the way it is and something worth reflection.

At some point (regardless of official decrees) we will all have to decide when it is safe to emerge from whatever place of safety we've put ourselves in and go out into the wider camino world. That absolutely doesn't mean we take stupid risks or do selfish things that put elderly people or communities in Spain at risk - just that we can't avoid our own personal vulnerability by wrapping ourselves in cotton wool.
 

Kanga

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese, Primitivo
I've written out my advanced care directive. So knowing (a) I won't be revived if found unresponsive after the age of 82, and (b) I won't be peg fed, and (c) if I'm in pain or distressed, morphine or any happy mood inducing drug is to be applied generously and without regard to consequences (including but not limited to vino tinto and Laphroaig) - I feel ready to take my chances.
 

malingerer

samarkand
Camino(s) past & future
cf (2), de la plata, cp. (2003 -2018)
I've written out my advanced care directive. So knowing (a) I won't be revived if found unresponsive after the age of 82, and (b) I won't be peg fed, and (c) if I'm in pain or distressed, morphine or any happy mood inducing drug is to be applied generously and without regard to consequences (including but not limited to vino tinto and Laphroaig) - I feel ready to take my chances.
LAPHROAIG ? One of my favourite whiskeys back in the good ole days! I still like the Mc ALLAN but again its been many a year since I could drink it! As I'm 82 I'm making damn sure not to be found unresponsive in case the medical bodies are hovering like them there Tiger Mozzzies. My eldest son is a nurse awa up there in the frozen North and reckons the tigers wouldn't have a chance against the Midges :)

Hang loose !

The Malingerer.
 

IngridF

Intrepid Peregrina
Camino(s) past & future
2012, 2015 ,2017, 2019
Funny how different the reactions are. When I read the article, it sort of made me think —well the only thing we can do in this dangerous world is be careful and manage the risks the best we can. No way are we ever going to have a totally safe camino or a safe place anywhere in the world for that matter. So in some weird way, it made me think I’d be going back to the camino sooner rather than later.
Makes the Bedbugs seem like welcome pets! (just being silly) but so much is upside down. Ah stay safe ya'll , see you on the Camino sometime in the distant future, unless something else comes up. Virtual HUGS
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
Makes the Bedbugs seem like welcome pets! (just being silly) but so much is upside down. Ah stay safe ya'll , see you on the Camino sometime in the distant future, unless something else comes up. Virtual HUGS
🙃I enjoy silliness, too... sometimes more than I should.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Lots ;0)
Makes the Bedbugs seem like welcome pets!
Daft innit; dear old B Bugs have been preying on humans for millennia and in all that time they don't seem to have ever become a disease vector, but then I suppose their incentive is to ensure that there are plenty of pilgrims available. They're not likely to try and cull lunch.
 

Walton

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2016 Sjpp to Sdc. 2018 Lisbon to Sdc to Finisterre. Next up hopefully VDP or Del Norte.
but then I suppose their incentive is to ensure that there are plenty of pilgrims available. They're not likely to try and cull lunch.
I would think there might be a lot of very skinny and hungry bedbugs cursing this Corona virus business.

Wouldn't be surprised if the little known Association of Bedbugs financially supported the "open the border" campaign either.
 

NiniSum

Member
Camino(s) past & future
C Frances (2012: Leon to SdC) C Finisterre (2012) C Frances (2015: SJPP to Leon) C Inglés (2019)
I've written out my advanced care directive. So knowing (a) I won't be revived if found unresponsive after the age of 82, and (b) I won't be peg fed, and (c) if I'm in pain or distressed, morphine or any happy mood inducing drug is to be applied generously and without regard to consequences (including but not limited to vino tinto and Laphroaig) - I feel ready to take my chances.
I have to add Laphroaig to my advanced care directive!! 😂😂😂
 

walkingstu

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino SJPP to SDC 2007 Frances
Camino Aragon Pau Fr. to Pamplona 2010
Camino Burgos to SDC 2012
Camino Porto to SDC 2015
Camino VDLP Seville to SDC March 2016
It noses like iodine , it numbs like novocaine, it eases like sleep.
Strictly, a winter scotch!
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Currently on a "Virtual" Camino and striding out across Castile y Leon!
I live in Minnesota, where the mosquito is facetiously called our state bird. If you want to get outdoors in our beautiful summers you have to learn to live with them.
Are you telling me the fridge magnet my daughter brought back is a calumny?

1592554230805.png
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Currently on a "Virtual" Camino and striding out across Castile y Leon!
I've written out my advanced care directive. So knowing (a) I won't be revived if found unresponsive after the age of 82, and (b) I won't be peg fed, and (c) if I'm in pain or distressed, morphine or any happy mood inducing drug is to be applied generously and without regard to consequences (including but not limited to vino tinto and Laphroaig) - I feel ready to take my chances.
Vino tinto and Laphroaig sounds even worse than a Kalimodjo!
 

Moorwalker

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
The Saint's Way, Cornwall
An assortment of diseases carried and transmitted by mosquitoes has always been around. To some extent we are now noticing them because Covid 19 has made people aware that modern medicine cannot cure everything. We in the West are accustomed to being able to get vaccines to protect us against many of the traditional diseases and of having antibiotics which deal with bacterial infections. It therefore comes as something of a nasty surprise to many people that there are still diseases around that can make them very ill and in some cases kill them and that there is little they can do about it. I'm old enough to remember the last polio epidemic in England and the fact that measles used to be feared because of the high rate of damaging effects, most people under my sort of age - 65 - will never have known that and it's easy to be complacent.

If you go to less sophisticated parts of the world you find yourself in another situation altogether and have to learn the various strategies used by people there. It becomes normal to sleep under a mosquito net, to avoid being in wet areas at dawn and dusk when the mosquitoes are most common, to wear long sleeves and trousers, to use insect repellents - and many areas have their own natural insect repellents that are at least partially effective (I was shown bog myrtle by a Sami woman and that is astonishingly good at repelling the Nordic mosquitoes).

Because of climate change we are seeing the areas where some insects can live expanding and moving. I don't see it as a reason for not going into the wild but we are going to need to re-learn some of the strategies for reducing our risk of becoming ill. And of course it's wise to get vaccinated against diseases where a vaccine is available.
 

Moorwalker

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
The Saint's Way, Cornwall
We are suffering a recurrence of measles in Alberta because the increasing number of "anti-vaxers" who will not get their children vaccinated has destroyed the herd immunity that we were relying on to avoid measles outbreaks.
Indeed. And because those diseases have been very rare for some time people have forgotten just how nasty they can be. I'm at the front of the queue for vaccines when I go travelling, and I always get my flu shot. That amuses my doctor because I hate needles so she always knows if I'm intending to go travelling somewhere new because I present at her surgery and cringe while she does the shots. Which illustrates how much I think it matters.
 

NYSE

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances & Camino Finisterre/Muxia April 2019
I don’t mean to sound dismissive, because this is potentially another non-trivial health issue to consider for anyone who will spend days and days walking outside in Spain. It is a vector for West Nile virus.

One can not simultaneously walk hand in hand with the Lord and walk in fear.
 

WalkingJane

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
May and October 2015
(2015 October)
June 2018 Portuguese
Funny how different the reactions are. When I read the article, it sort of made me think —well the only thing we can do in this dangerous world is be careful and manage the risks the best we can. No way are we ever going to have a totally safe camino or a safe place anywhere in the world for that matter. So in some weird way, it made me think I’d be going back to the camino sooner rather than later.
Well, as to a safe place..... No one gets out of this life alive, and there are many ways to leave.
 

Sansthing

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
French Camino (2009), French Camino (2011), Via de la Plata (2012), Camino Inglês (2014),
Where I live (Brazil) we have to contend with dengue fever and zika from the mosquitos, let alone the current Covid problem. Keeping my head down at the moment!
 

Telboyo

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
I intend to leave the UK the day Before Brexit and walkMarch -April 2019 Camino Frances
Hhmmm I think we may need an axe thread .. weight, style, how to carry it, actual effectiveness against aliens and/or zombies - sharpened carbon head or traditional carbon steel ..... whether refugios should provide free grinders ... oh ... the choices!!!
Carrying an axe answers most of the equipment questions. The ax will take up most of your 10 per cent body weight allowance, so, no sleeping bag, shoes not boots, no poles, water bottle not bladder.
As you grind the axe away the weight in the pack can be replaced with souvenirs.
 

Get on our Mailing list for new products on the Camino Store and news from the Camino Forum








Advertisement

Booking.com

Camino Conversations

Camino Conversations

Forum Rules

Forum Rules

Forum Donation

Forum Donation
For those with no forum account, it is possible to donate here as well. Thank you for your support! Ivar

Follow Casa Ivar on Instagram

Most downloaded Resources

When is the best time to walk?

  • January

    Votes: 16 1.2%
  • February

    Votes: 10 0.8%
  • March

    Votes: 55 4.2%
  • April

    Votes: 196 15.0%
  • May

    Votes: 325 24.8%
  • June

    Votes: 95 7.3%
  • July

    Votes: 24 1.8%
  • August

    Votes: 27 2.1%
  • September

    Votes: 379 29.0%
  • October

    Votes: 158 12.1%
  • November

    Votes: 17 1.3%
  • December

    Votes: 7 0.5%

Camino Forum Store

Camino Forum Store
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website. For the best site experience please disable your AdBlocker.

I've Disabled AdBlock