wanderingsilvia
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Hello, I don't have enough time to walk the entire Camino Frances. Which paved sections could be avoided to save time? Thanks.
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I hiked the first three stages into Pamplona in 2016.Hello, I don't have enough time to walk the entire Camino Frances. Which paved sections could be avoided to save time? Thanks.
Hello. I realize there is not one answer to this question. I have 25 days and I am not fast. I may just cut a section and move on. I have watched many videos from previous pilgrims and, unlike other routes that cross industrial areas o have long sections on paved roads, I haven't seen any section on the CF that are particularly like that. Thank you!Hello, I don't have enough time to walk the entire Camino Frances. Which paved sections could be avoided to save time? Thanks.
A couple of questions before I offer my advice.Hello. I realize there is not one answer to this question. I have 25 days and I am not fast. I may just cut a section and move on. I have watched many videos from previous pilgrims and, unlike other routes that cross industrial areas o have long sections on paved roads, I haven't seen any section on the CF that are particularly like that. Thank you!
From Leon take a local bus to Virgen del Camino then start if you fear pavement.Why not start in Leon? 25 days should give you plenty of time to finish even at a slow pace. Not many industrial areas on this stretch.
Don't skip anything. Just walk as far as you canHello, I don't have enough time to walk the entire Camino Frances. Which paved sections could be avoided to save time? Thanks.
Hello, I don't have enough time to walk the entire Camino Frances. Which paved sections could be avoided to save time? Thanks.
Don't skip anything. Just walk as far as you can
I second that. The walk leaving Leon is not a scenic one.From Leon take a local bus to Virgen del Camino then start if you fear pavement.
My wife and I have been on the route sonce June 13. Arrived in Sarria today (super hot weather and many pilgrims). Everyone answering your question will have an opinion, so here's mine: Take the bus from Los Arcos to Logrono. It's easy to find and saves you a stage. Walking in and out of Leon is a slog. I'd accelerate through Leon to Hospital de Orbigo. Leon is beautiful, but if you stay in Burgos, you'll get your "city fix" and needn't do both if pressed. The section from Rabanal into Molinaseca is really tough on the legs, with a good 3 hour descent on either rock or roadway as well, and the adjoining walk from Molinasecca into Ponferrada is totally urban. So right there, you could shave 4 -5 days off your trip with little regret. Lastly, if you are really tight for time, there is no shame in starting from a town other than St. Jean. Pamplona is an excellent start point and saves you another 3-4 days. I would NOT skip the meseta! So peaceful and full of quinessential Spanish villages and churches. Have a great Camino...we are!!Hello, I don't have enough time to walk the entire Camino Frances. Which paved sections could be avoided to save time? Thanks.
Thank you! I want to cross the Pyrenees so I will start in SJPDP, I definitely want to walk the meseta,quick visit Burgosand walk from Sarria to Santiago. My focus is the walk, and with such little time I don't expect to do a lot of sightseeing. I leave for Spain next week. Buen Camino!My wife and I have been on the route sonce June 13. Arrived in Sarria today (super hot weather and many pilgrims). Everyone answering your question will have an opinion, so here's mine: Take the bus from Los Arcos to Logrono. It's easy to find and saves you a stage. Walking in and out of Leon is a slog. I'd accelerate through Leon to Hospital de Orbigo. Leon is beautiful, but if you stay in Burgos, you'll get your "city fix" and needn't do both if pressed. The section from Rabanal into Molinaseca is really tough on the legs, with a good 3 hour descent on either rock or roadway as well, and the adjoining walk from Molinasecca into Ponferrada is totally urban. So right there, you could shave 4 -5 days off your trip with little regret. Lastly, if you are really tight for time, there is no shame in starting from a town other than St. Jean. Pamplona is an excellent start point and saves you another 3-4 days. I would NOT skip the meseta! So peaceful and full of quinessential Spanish villages and churches. Have a great Camino...we are!!
I am leaving next week and my start point is SJPDP. Twenty five days will be my walking time. I am not in great shape ( long story) therefore I am planning to carry the bare minimum which I have tested on a few walks and it is not too hard on my body. I want to walk the meseta and the last stretch to SantiagoA couple of questions before I offer my advice.
1) How many km can you realistically walk day after day? Have you trained for ascents and descents?
2) What time of year are you planning to go?
3) Does the 25 days include your travel time to get to/from the Camino? Where are you coming from?
I dislike the pavement and cement but sometimes the pavement is easier than the path! Occasionally one experiences downhills, where paths are full of rocks and very steep, making the walk slow and slippery.Hello, I don't have enough time to walk the entire Camino Frances. Which paved sections could be avoided to save time? Thanks.
How exciting! I like your plan of starting in SJPP. Both times that I have crossed the Pyrenees were extra special! Navarra and Rioja provinces are favorites of mine. I, too, found the Meseta a great part of the walk and a part of the Camino that I would not have wanted to miss. So, with only 25 days, you’ll have to do some picking and choosing, but there are no “bad” days on the CF. Different stages simply offer different challenges. I understand walking the last 100 kms into Santiago, but I don’t think you’ll find it the most satisfying part of your Camino after having been on earlier sections. Nonetheless, after that much time walking, your arrival in Santiago will be very special and you will certainly understand the meaning of the pilgrimage. Starts in a week! Wow! Buen Camino
The walk up and down to Roncevalles is mostly on a paved road! And do monitor the weather! Currently expecting another heatwave. Of course weather can change quickly In the mountains.I am leaving next week and my start point is SJPDP. Twenty five days will be my walking time. I am not in great shape ( long story) therefore I am planning to carry the bare minimum which I have tested on a few walks and it is not too hard on my body. I want to walk the meseta and the last stretch to Santiago
I usually don't recommend that pilgrims skip around, as you won't make the friendships that are important to MY Camino, but given your desires and physical fitness below are some of my suggestions.I am leaving next week and my start point is SJPDP. Twenty five days will be my walking time. I am not in great shape ( long story) therefore I am planning to carry the bare minimum which I have tested on a few walks and it is not too hard on my body. I want to walk the meseta and the last stretch to Santiago
Thanks very much for the detailed answer. Considering the heatwave currently happening in Europe , and your comment about it being brown, I am thinking of skipping it . I want to enjoy my walk, not suffer through it unnecessarily.I usually don't recommend that pilgrims skip around, as you won't make the friendships that are important to MY Camino, but given your desires and physical fitness below are some of my suggestions.
1) Given your physical fitness, I would definitely not go to Roncesvalles in one day. In fact, I personally rarely recommend to do it in one day. Stay at Orisson or Borda. You will need a reservation!
2) Given your short time frame, you might be tempted to push yourself too hard in the beginning. This could put your entire Camino at risk due to injury. Keep your distances short to moderate the first week and build your strength.
3) You may want to consider using the bag service. I know you have packed light and it feels good now. Someone it always feels much heavier day after day. I would take a foldable duffle to send things ahead if desired and carry your backpack. Not carrying this weight will allow you to cover more distance.
4) Keep in mind that it could be very hot and this will impact your ability to cover as much ground. The summer is one of the few times I take a headlamp so that I can start very early and be done by the time it gets too hot. The mornings are still nice in Spain.
5) These are some sections I would consider skipping. I feel that they have good transportation options there is a lot of road walking most often in suburbs or industrial sections.
* Catch the bus in Belorado and go on to Burgos. If you catch the morning bus, you could spend half a day in Burgos and then taxi or bus out to Rabe de las Calzadas and be ready to walk the next morning. This will save you about 2.5-3 days. The walking into and out of Burgos will not be missed. There is a nice climb through the forrest after Villafranca but it doesn't rank with some of the other not to miss areas.
* Get a train from Sahagun to Leon. If you spend the night in Sahagun, you could catch the early train and have the day to see Leon. Check the bus schedule and see if you could get to Hospital de Orbigo later that day and be ready to walk the next morning. This would save about 2.5 days. You could go on to Astorga to save a little more time and you could catch the train.
* You could arrange for a taxi to pick you up at Cruz de Fero or Manjarin. The downhill from here to Molineseca is where I have seen the most injuries. The rocks are difficult and the alternative is walking the road.
* Molineseca to Camponaraya can definitely be skipped. You may want to taxi to Ponferrada, visit the castle (closed on Mondays) and then continue on to Camponaraya to continue walking. If you take the cab from Cruz de Fero you will save about 2 days
* Now for your desire to walk the Meseta. I love the Meseta in the spring and early summer. However, later in the summer it can be very hot and very brown. I was through there a couple of weeks ago and due to the intense heat it was drying up fast. The wheat was golden and had not been harvested. Once it is harvested, it is just a lot of brown dirt. So I don't know your desire, but at this time of year I would consider skipping more of it in order to enjoy other areas. I would never consider skipping it in spring or early summer.
Hopefully, this will be helpful. Skipping around it a different kind of Camino, but its your Camino.
Ultreia Y Susia
Buen Camino.....and don't forget to stay off of the book stages in the last 100km to avoid the crowds. I also make sure that I am not walking through one of the stage towns before 9:00 a.m. Otherwise, you might get caught in the crowds departing in the morning.Thanks very much for the detailed answer. Considering the heatwave currently happening in Europe , and your comment about it being brown, I am thinking of skipping it . I want to enjoy my walk, not suffer through it unnecessarily.