Disappointed with my hiking shoes

[efdoucette]

Hello all, just returned from a walk and wanted to vent (wishing my shoes would do the same).
Bought a "good" pair of Merrell moabs gortex hiking shoes only to find out my feet get too hot. I always wear two pair of socks and have moved down to the lightest pairs but still there's a furnace in my shoes. Sucks. Need to look for something new. Any suggestions?
I'm going to walk Camino Frances in Sept so I still have time to break in something new and "airy".
Thanks

 

[Kitsambler]

I guess the obvious suggestion is to try the non-Goretex version, if you were otherwise happy with the boot fit and function.

Elsewhere in these forums, you will find fans of New Balance and Vasque (for the Americans) as well as Merrell. Bottom line: if the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it!

 

[LTfit]

Hi Elfdoucette,

I also have Merrill walking shoes. Like you I first got the Gortex version but also found that my foot sweat even with 1 pair of hiking socks during long hikes of 20+ km (plus a few little blisters). As I will be walking in July I bought a non-Gortex Merrill shoe which is much lighter and cooler. On the negative side, the newer version is less stable and get pain in my left forefoot .Tomorrow hope to go on a longer walk and decide which shoe to take on my upcoming Camino.

Not sure how the weather will be for you in Sept. on the Francés. But if it is anything like I had last year July than Gortex is not necessary.

Good luck and cheers,
LT

 

[KiwiNomad06]

I had non-goretex Merrell shoes which were superb- except for one period of three days when it rained solid so they got saturated so I got blisters. I was wondering about getting a goretex version, but have hesitated, thinking they might get too hot. Seems like they do, so thanks for sharing this info!
Margaret

 

[gittiharre]

You might want to experiment with using Nike Dry Socks, they are brilliant, I always wear gortex boots and these superwicking socks keep my feet bone dry, cheers, Gitti

 

[Anniesantiago]

New Balance Walkers or New Balance Trail Shoes.
Wear them out of the store and right onto the Camino.
Buy them one size too large and try them on with your wool socks and liners.
Buy a gel insert and replace the regular insert with it.

They have a HUGE toe box, with plenty of room for swelling feet.

I've worn them on every walk ...
Boots, to me, are overkill.

 

[vandrefalk]

Like KiwiNomad, I had this problem with Merrell Moab Ventilator. Had bought this shoe for its light weight and suppposed coolness and trained in Norwegian forests for months without problems. Worked fine in the dry, but in the wet in Galicia got soaked, resulting in super blisters. Hard to know what's best.

 

[KiwiNomad06]

I took a rest day in Conques though which was the best thing I did in hindsight -gave the blisters a chance to heal a bit. Never had any more problems. Liked the Vibram soles.
Margaret

 

[efdoucette]

You might want to experiment with using Nike Dry Socks, they are brilliant, I always wear gortex boots and these superwicking socks keep my feet bone dry, cheers, Gitti

Thanks for this tip and thank you to all others for advice.

I decided to stick with my gortex hikers for now and have been experimenting with socks. I recently tried a pair of Wright socks, they are thin and double lined (a friend who runs marathons recommended these to me). Better for wicking, good for blister prevention but my feet still get quite warm.

I am now wondering how common it is to have warm feet after a 2 hour hike. I suspect after 2 hours of walking it is time to break and air out the feet anyway. Any thoughts?

Thank you.

 

[Deleted member 3000]

Air your feet every hour! You can use the break, sitting down is good, moisture can evaporate, you can renew your lubricant or talc, and you can contemplate changing socks. Two hours of solid walking is a good way to get blisters, at least until you have had some callusing. Hydrate while you are at it. There are no awards given for refusing to take breaks, and it can be severely punished, even if it is self-punishment.

 

[Corwen]

Airing your feet is really good practice and makes a huge difference.

Personally I find one pair of medium weight socks enough, and lightweight socks once my feet have toughened up a little.

Best of all IMHO is to carry as little as possible and thus have a bit of leeway to take two items of footwear, a lightweight pair of waterproof boots or trail shoes and a pair of hiking sandals. Walking in sandals is fantastic, you can choose socks on or off, and you also have the option of boots for wet days or rough rocky terrain.

Having two different shoes also gives your feet a rest, blisters that happen in one may well heal in the other where the pressure points are different.

 

[efdoucette]

I recently completed my camino and thought I should update this post that I started.

My hiking boots were 1 size larger than my normal, to which I added a second insole. I got my only blister on day 14 when my feet swelled and my baby toe started rubbing. I removed 1 set of insoles and subsequently cut off the toes on the second set. This worked great and my toes had wiggle room even with swollen feet. I recommend this tactic as it allows options, I just waited too long to remove the second set of insoles.

Also had heavy rain on my last day, my feet got soaked even with the gortex. So I would opt out of gortex, they are only waterproof under light rain conditions, they tend to overheat the feet and are heavier. It took 2 days to get them dry.

Also remember to take off your boots while having a break and drink lots of water.

One more also, completed Camino Frances in 32 days, no rest days, had an incredible experience.

 

[jpflavin1]

I wear merril low cut gortex hiking shoes with vibrim soles. I also vaseline my feet each morning and wear smartwool socks. Never had a blister. That said, my feet thanked me every time I removed my shoes. I can not imagine anyones feet not perspiring, swelling or getting a little warm hiking 15 to 20 miles a day. I wore a plastic bag over my sock on heavy rain days to keep my feet dry.

Ultreya,
Joe

 

[Abbeydore]

I wear merril low cut gortex hiking shoes with vibrim soles. I also vaseline my feet each morning and wear smartwool socks. Never had a blister. That said, my feet thanked me every time I removed my shoes. I can not imagine anyones feet not perspiring, swelling or getting a little warm hiking 15 to 20 miles a day. I wore a plastic bag over my sock on heavy rain days to keep my feet dry.

Ultreya,
Joe

I guess the real secret here is the vaseline & taking your boots off @ every opportunity :lol:
but it seems not just the feet but the legs too, is this a marketing ploy for us to use more :roll:

http://www.vaseline.co.uk/Product.aspx? ... eetAndLegs

 

[bryantlar]

So, What's the answer??? I have same question... Merrill Moab gortex or Ventilator? dryer but hotter or cooler but wetter? I'll be going in September 2013 so uncertainty of rain is the issue. I need to decide, buy one or the other and start training... Larry

 

[KiwiNomad06]

I think most people find Goretex too hot. I tried a pair at home and soon gave up on them. I did get blisters once on my first Camino after three days solid of rain where the track was often like a stream, but non-Goretex shoes do dry out, and you do get over blisters if you give them a chance (eg a day off, shorter days, protection by use of plaster/dressings.)

There are some brands of shoes that have a 'breathable' waterproof outer layer- not quite the same as Goretex. I never found one of these shoes that fitted my feet so can't comment on what they are like to walk in when it's hot.
Margaret

 

[RDLtrekker]

I'm going to try this combo at home first and see how it goes - I've got plenty of time to test out as I'm only walking the Camino in 2014.

I also find that Gortex shoes get really hot. So, I going to purchase regular hiking shoes and try these on rainy days: http://www.sealskinz.com/... I just have to wait until the snow melts here in Ontario, Canada so I can hit the trails with my hiking shoes instead of my winter boots :wink:

 

[Hbee]

I had a hard time with my gortex lined hiking boots in September of 2012. Ended up buying a pair of Salomon Women's XR Crossmax Neutral walking shoes in Leon. They are super light, dry overnight, and are perfect for my high arch feet.
Camino is not hiking it is walking and heavy hot boots can cause an injury.
Buen Camino!
Hbee

 

[CarlaH]

Footware crisis - 8 months ago I decided I had to walk the Camino Frances.... hours and hours of research and days of shopping (I wasn't fit at all and was definitely not a regular hiker / walker) but had this need to set off mid May 2014. Living in Cape Town, South Africa, the choices available to us in terms of lightweight gear and great shoes has been a serious challenge - I'm 5ft11 with flippers for feet (one is a UK 8 1/2 the other a 8 and very broad, thanks mom) - so post hours of research and pilgrim workshops it becomes clear I need 1 1/2 size bigger than my normal size and 2 pairs of socks (a liner and a regular). Off I go shoe shopping - ladies shoes in SA are only available up to size 8 1/2 and narrow - so I try on men's shoes size 9 1/2 to 10's... trying them in the store isn't the same as taking them for a spin - I now have 7 pairs of shoes, from Salomon's, Merrells, Keens, New Balance - and finally... I thought I'd found the one...Merrell Moab Ventilators, they felt great in the store, I actually hugged the sales assistance - decided I needed to take them for a spin - 10km on Sunday, then another 8km (hills) yesterday - result, serious hot spots that were still throbbing this morning in 4 places. I have run out of shoe options - I leave in 2 months - have every item of my kit (total weight 6kg - 8% of body weight), imported Pacer Poles from the UK (dodgy knees), am swimming 25km and walking 35km a week and have taken 3 months off work to waddle the Camino my way... but at this point, have no shoes to walk in... any suggestions South African forum members? at this point I may need to do this in flip flops, the ones with bling on top

 

[whariwharangi]

Footware crisis - 8 months ago I decided I had to walk the Camino Frances.... hours and hours of research and days of shopping (I wasn't fit at all and was definitely not a regular hiker / walker) but had this need to set off mid May 2014. Living in Cape Town, South Africa, the choices available to us in terms of lightweight gear and great shoes has been a serious challenge - I'm 5ft11 with flippers for feet (one is a UK 8 1/2 the other a 8 and very broad, thanks mom) - so post hours of research and pilgrim workshops it becomes clear I need 1 1/2 size bigger than my normal size and 2 pairs of socks (a liner and a regular). Off I go shoe shopping - ladies shoes in SA are only available up to size 8 1/2 and narrow - so I try on men's shoes size 9 1/2 to 10's... trying them in the store isn't the same as taking them for a spin - I now have 7 pairs of shoes, from Salomon's, Merrells, Keens, New Balance - and finally... I thought I'd found the one...Merrell Moab Ventilators, they felt great in the store, I actually hugged the sales assistance - decided I needed to take them for a spin - 10km on Sunday, then another 8km (hills) yesterday - result, serious hot spots that were still throbbing this morning in 4 places. I have run out of shoe options - I leave in 2 months - have every item of my kit (total weight 6kg - 8% of body weight), imported Pacer Poles from the UK (dodgy knees), am swimming 25km and walking 35km a week and have taken 3 months off work to waddle the Camino my way... but at this point, have no shoes to walk in... any suggestions South African forum members? at this point I may need to do this in flip flops, the ones with bling on top

Wear shoes that fit ... even if that is flip flops. You shouldn't need to wear 2 pairs of socks and shoes a size 1 1/2 larger than normal.

If your feet swell take a day off or soak them in ice water till the swelling goes away.

 

[lettinggo]

Footware crisis - 8 months ago I decided I had to walk the Camino Frances.... hours and hours of research and days of shopping (I wasn't fit at all and was definitely not a regular hiker / walker) but had this need to set off mid May 2014. Living in Cape Town, South Africa, the choices available to us in terms of lightweight gear and great shoes has been a serious challenge - I'm 5ft11 with flippers for feet (one is a UK 8 1/2 the other a 8 and very broad, thanks mom) - so post hours of research and pilgrim workshops it becomes clear I need 1 1/2 size bigger than my normal size and 2 pairs of socks (a liner and a regular). Off I go shoe shopping - ladies shoes in SA are only available up to size 8 1/2 and narrow - so I try on men's shoes size 9 1/2 to 10's... trying them in the store isn't the same as taking them for a spin - I now have 7 pairs of shoes, from Salomon's, Merrells, Keens, New Balance - and finally... I thought I'd found the one...Merrell Moab Ventilators, they felt great in the store, I actually hugged the sales assistance - decided I needed to take them for a spin - 10km on Sunday, then another 8km (hills) yesterday - result, serious hot spots that were still throbbing this morning in 4 places. I have run out of shoe options - I leave in 2 months - have every item of my kit (total weight 6kg - 8% of body weight), imported Pacer Poles from the UK (dodgy knees), am swimming 25km and walking 35km a week and have taken 3 months off work to waddle the Camino my way... but at this point, have no shoes to walk in... any suggestions South African forum members? at this point I may need to do this in flip flops, the ones with bling on top

Hola
Well at least you won't have to be shopping shoes for a while once you are back home

Have you tried an orthopedist ?
Maybe you need special shoes that they can help with.
Also, you may want to buy some decent insoles.
Some people say they need the ones which is heat formed to the feets, but I just use some okay prefab and cut them to fit the shoe.
Good luck. You are doing everything right. Just keep at it and the answer will present itself.

Buen Camino
Lettingo

 

[Dutch]

Maybe it's an idea to just try some good running shoes? In my opinion, the camino does not need special hiking boots.
Yes, this is just an opinion, and lots of others will disagree, but thats what i found out.
Other then that, good running shoes walk sooooo nice.

I had serious, SERIOUS leg troubles on my camino and i walked in boots that were adviced to me by people who should know. I blame the boots for my troubles. When i came to Astorga, it was so bad that i could not walk any furter and needed resting days and prescription medicine. I could not even get off a sidewalk without enormous pain. After the restingdays and medicine, it was alot better. First thing i did was walk to a sportstore and bought my favorite running shoes i have back home. Lucky for me they had the same ones there in a small shop. When i started walking on these babies, every step felt like heaven.
Listen to your feet, not to people who think they know. Every foot is different. There is no 1 perfect shoe for all. Just wear what feels good to you. My running shoe idea is just an option you could try.
Also, when walking in a warm season, stay far away from any gore-tex shoe.

Another opinion, forget the double sock technique. I am also not a wool fan. Just some good fitting synthetic (no cotton!) running socks made of good technical material (i.e. coolmax) will be excellent. Make sure they are a bit higher then the shoe. You dont want the bare skin of your achilles to rub against the shoe the whole day.

Oh and when on your Camino, it maybe also a good idea to use sportstape as a preventive measure on know (to be) hotspots.

 

[NicoZ]

.Merrell Moab Ventilators, they felt great in the store, I actually hugged the sales assistance - decided I needed to take them for a spin - 10km on Sunday, then another 8km (hills) yesterday - result, serious hot spots that were still throbbing this morning in 4 places.

Wait a minute. You just bought these shoes and in two days you did 18 km? Slow down. Rushing only gets you hurt. Mellow. Build up slowly. Breath deeply.

Wait a few days and let your feet recover. Then start slow. Add a bit every day.

 

[Jonas]

Agree with NicoZ. Your shoes need time to fit for your feets. 18 km on new shoes means trouble, thats why it is important to walk them in (over time).

 

[newfydog]

There are some brands of shoes that have a 'breathable' waterproof outer layer- not quite the same as Goretex. I never found one of these shoes that fitted my feet so can't comment on what they are like to walk in when it's hot.
Margaret

Gore-Tex is about the most breathable of all the waterproof membranes. The waterproofing in Keens "keendry" seems worse. I think the problem is that all the membranes restrict airflow, while a shoe like a Merrill Moab Ventilator allows for more than just evaporation, air physically moves through the mesh each step.

 

[Alyssa]

Carla, I've been having similar experiences trying to find the right footwear for my upcoming Camino (you can read about some of my travails here http://sometimesshetravels.blogspot.com/2014/02/booting-boots.html). I suspect I will probably end up wearing a pair of my favorite trail running shoes (as suggested by Dutch in a previous post-if I could double like his comment, I would).

There's a great article about choosing the right hiking boots at http://www.patc.us/hiking/gear/boots.html. The most useful line in my opinion can be found at the bottom of the page where it says, "Put a little 'indoor distance' on the boots. If they still feel good, you've found a reasonably good boot for your foot. If they don't feel good, resist the temptation to keep them - take them back and keep looking." I took mine back.

 

[Dutch]

Carla, I've been having similar experiences trying to find the right footwear for my upcoming Camino (you can read about some of my travails here http://sometimesshetravels.blogspot.com/2014/02/booting-boots.html). I suspect I will probably end up wearing a pair of my favorite trail running shoes (as suggested by Dutch in a previous post-if I could double like his comment, I would).

There's a great article about choosing the right hiking boots at http://www.patc.us/hiking/gear/boots.html. The most useful line in my opinion can be found at the bottom of the page where it says, "Put a little 'indoor distance' on the boots. If they still feel good, you've found a reasonably good boot for your foot. If they don't feel good, resist the temptation to keep them - take them back and keep looking." I took mine back.

Wow, it is not often (i found) that someone agrees with me on the running shoe department. Or the socks, for that matter. Most pilgrims advocate for boots or special hiking shoes. Not me, not anymore. Not after my troubles. As a runner, i should have know better. I think.
I am even thinking about bringing an extra pair of shoes. Jsut have to decide first if my first pair will be my normal running shoes or my trail runners, which i love (almost) as much as my normal runners.
Two pairs might be a bit much, but not sure if betting on one horse is wise, again. On my relatively short upcomimg camino it might be a good way to see which ones i prefer, camino wise, for my longer camino in (probably) september.

Had a look at your blog. Did not read it all, but what i read, i liked. Some points you made were very familiar. Too familiar maybe I get why you feel the need to scratch that itch.

Oh, opinionwise. I kindle or any ereader is so much more relaxing for the eyes than an ipad. I brought my kobo glo with me (and iphone). On the other hand, your right, an ipad is more functional, if you have to choose between the two. If you like to read in bed also, when the light is turned off, be sure you have an ereader with a build in light, similar to the one i have. Works perfect. Or does yours have this as well? Every night, when everyone went to sleep at around 2200 hours and the light got turned off, there was always one very small spark of light coming from the pillow end of one of the bunkbed. This was me, reading

 

[Rambler]

So I am an advocate for Goretex shoes, if you are walking in the time it is likely to rain. Summer months tend to be light on rain and would justify ventilated shoes, but I am using Lowa Goretex shoes for my June Camino. Too many times, I have seen hikers have blister problems because their feet and shoes were soaked. I prefer to forgo the blisters and have a slightly warmer foot.
Here are a couple of suggestions for keeping the interior of shoes from holding moisture:

• Pull the insoles out each time you remove the shoes to let them both air out. This ensures that any dampness under the insole gets out.
• If the shoe interior is really wet, crumple up newspapers and stick them in the shoes, replacing every hour or until the paper is saturated. This dries them much quicker.
• A small container of foot powder liberally applied each day helps keep down the moisture

Rambler

 

[Grant]

... but at this point, have no shoes to walk in... any suggestions South African forum members? at this point I may need to do this in flip flops, the ones with bling on top

Carla, my suggestion... give up on the shoe search and take a bicycle! I'm biking the Camino in May, hmmm... I could take my tandem if you want to share a ride

 

[CarlaH]

Wait a minute. You just bought these shoes and in two days you did 18 km? Slow down. Rushing only gets you hurt. Mellow. Build up slowly. Breath deeply.

Wait a few days and let your feet recover. Then start slow. Add a bit every day.

Today in precisely 2 months I set off - having everything sorted but my footwear made me panic a little...Guess I did rush out the gates with the new Merrells (even though I wore them around the home office for a couple of days) - in South Africa shoe brands like Salomon and Merrell only come in half sizes, so 8 1/2; 19 1/2 and 10 1/2 - perhaps being 1 1/2 sizes bigger than my normal size is a little much too - bought a pair of New Balance trial running shoes today, with the widest foot width they have and only one size bigger - will cut the socks down to one pair of coolmax and start with 5km on a flat and see how it goes - thanks for all your valuable input everyone.

 

[Anniesantiago]

Today in precisely 2 months I set off - having everything sorted but my footwear made me panic a little...Guess I did rush out the gates with the new Merrells (even though I wore them around the home office for a couple of days) - in South Africa shoe brands like Salomon and Merrell only come in half sizes, so 8 1/2; 19 1/2 and 10 1/2 - perhaps being 1 1/2 sizes bigger than my normal size is a little much too - bought a pair of New Balance trial running shoes today, with the widest foot width they have and only one size bigger - will cut the socks down to one pair of coolmax and start with 5km on a flat and see how it goes - thanks for all your valuable input everyone.

I hope you love them!
I do!

 

[Alyssa]

Wow, it is not often (i found) that someone agrees with me on the running shoe department. Or the socks, for that matter. Most pilgrims advocate for boots or special hiking shoes. Not me, not anymore. Not after my troubles. As a runner, i should have know better. I think.
I am even thinking about bringing an extra pair of shoes. Jsut have to decide first if my first pair will be my normal running shoes or my trail runners, which i love (almost) as much as my normal runners.
Two pairs might be a bit much, but not sure if betting on one horse is wise, again. On my relatively short upcomimg camino it might be a good way to see which ones i prefer, camino wise, for my longer camino in (probably) september.

Had a look at your blog. Did not read it all, but what i read, i liked. Some points you made were very familiar. Too familiar maybe I get why you feel the need to scratch that itch.

Oh, opinionwise. I kindle or any ereader is so much more relaxing for the eyes than an ipad. I brought my kobo glo with me (and iphone). On the other hand, your right, an ipad is more functional, if you have to choose between the two. If you like to read in bed also, when the light is turned off, be sure you have an ereader with a build in light, similar to the one i have. Works perfect. Or does yours have this as well? Every night, when everyone went to sleep at around 2200 hours and the light got turned off, there was always one very small spark of light coming from the pillow end of one of the bunkbed. This was me, reading

I still have three months to determine which shoes I will bring. I wore the Merrell Sirens outside today and they are pretty comfortable. This Sunday I will do an 11-mile hike with varying terrain http://www.mapmyhike.com/routes/view/353361813 in the Merrells but will carry my trusted Asics in my backpack. Better safe than sorry with the shoes, I think. You could always mail a pair home or ditch a pair along the route. Thanks for sharing your experience from your first Camino about the shoe nightmare.

Thanks also for your perspectives on the eReaders. I'm pretty certain I am going to purchase and take an iPad Mini (331 grams-funny how I cognizant I am of weight these days) that I can use for blogging and reading. Is it kosher to read in bed while others are sleeping? I figured I will read in common areas (or under my covers).

 

[Dutch]

Thanks also for your perspectives on the eReaders. I'm pretty certain I am going to purchase and take an iPad Mini (331 grams-funny how I cognizant I am of weight these days) that I can use for blogging and reading. Is it kosher to read in bed while others are sleeping? I figured I will read in common areas (or under my covers).

Oh yes, very kosher. Out of all the things people can (and do) complain about, nobody has ever given me a hard time about this. Not a single word. I just put the light as dimmed as possible, but stil readable, and its fine. The light coming of is not very bright.
Same goes for the iphone. I just dim the light to the max, turn all sounds off and it was ok.
I am not an early sleeper. I cant sleep at 10pm. Not because all i did was walk 25-30km. Not even after several nights of not sleeping much at all. So all i could do was read or surf the internet or whatsapp till it was time to at least try to sleep. Usualy around midnight, when all others would be asleap for hours. Even after naps in the afternoon. Another thing i cant do. Sleep in the afternoon hahaha. And after that also try to sleep at 10pm. How tyred can a person be if you can do naps and early sleeping. No wonder some people get up as early as 5 am. Its the naps!! They should be forbidden

 

[Thomas1962]

Wow, it is not often (i found) that someone agrees with me on the running shoe department.

I walk myself on Salomons trail runners which are fine for me. But last year my wife walked about 800km of Camino on running shoes which she bought in a Spanish store on the way, they were perfect! It triples your idea about running shoes.
All feet seem to be different with different needs. For many people it will not work but for sure running shoes should be counted as one of the options.

 

[Dutch]

CarlH, i hope the trail runners will feel and walk great. Good luck and buen camino.

 

[marbuck]

Nothing beats a good Scarpa leather boot. You may pay a bit more for them but they are worth every cent.

 

[Saint Mike II]

Today in precisely 2 months I set off - having everything sorted but my footwear made me panic a little...Guess I did rush out the gates with the new Merrells (even though I wore them around the home office for a couple of days) - .

Carla Hola - I think you still need to discuss your feet with a professional. I had problems last May on the Camino and have now seen a Podiatrist who has made me up a special pair of orthotics that have improved the way my feet/soles spread the load. Buen Camino.

 

[Dutch]

Nothing beats a good Scarpa leather boot. You may pay a bit more for them but they are worth every cent.

Thats an opinion of course. Those kind of boots just dont work for everyone, no matter what brand, no matter what price.

The camino frances isn't a trail that really needs heavy and usually stiff boots.

Just wear something that you feel comfortable with. Thats maybe the most important thing.

 

[mauveglass]

New Balance Walkers or New Balance Trail Shoes.
Wear them out of the store and right onto the Camino.
Buy them one size too large and try them on with your wool socks and liners.
Buy a gel insert and replace the regular insert with it.

They have a HUGE toe box, with plenty of room for swelling feet.

I've worn them on every walk ...
Boots, to me, are overkill.

I agree with you Annie. Boots to me are overkill also. I walked in Sept/Oct '12 in Asics Kayano 18 trail shoes. I sprayed with them with a water repellent before I went. I had 3 days of rain just before Santiago. Only the last day of extremely hard rain for hours did my feet get wet. I never slipped or fell in the mud.

 

[Belinda Alvarez]

Hello all, just returned from a walk and wanted to vent (wishing my shoes would do the same).
Bought a "good" pair of Merrell moabs gortex hiking shoes only to find out my feet get too hot. I always wear two pair of socks and have moved down to the lightest pairs but still there's a furnace in my shoes. Sucks. Need to look for something new. Any suggestions?
I'm going to walk Camino Frances in Sept so I still have time to break in something new and "airy".
Thanks

I like Keen boots. They are great!

 

[Kanga]

Nothing beats a good Scarpa leather boot. You may pay a bit more for them but they are worth every cent.

Good Scarpa leather boots caused me excruciating internal foot pain. My feet are not suited to them. I need shoes that flex. To each his own.

 

[John in Leeds]

Hello all, just returned from a walk and wanted to vent (wishing my shoes would do the same).
Bought a "good" pair of Merrell moabs gortex hiking shoes only to find out my feet get too hot. I always wear two pair of socks and have moved down to the lightest pairs but still there's a furnace in my shoes. Sucks. Need to look for something new. Any suggestions?
I'm going to walk Camino Frances in Sept so I still have time to break in something new and "airy".
Thanks

And I was beginning to think it was only me who had the hot feet problem. My first pair of Moabs failed allowing water to pour in (or out on demonstration) and Merrel replaced them although they were just over a year old. Sadly the replacements also failed in the same way only after a couple of months. I have tried their Chameleons but although comfortable still made my feet hot. The problem being, feet get hot, feet get wet with perspiration, feet swell and get blisters. Having extra wide feet is also a problem as extra room in the toe box is needed.

Will be looking at the New Balance shoes I think with the larger widths in the toe box area as seen in previous posting.

 

[Kanga]

And I was beginning to think it was only me who had the hot feet problem.

No, you are not the only one.

I wear light Asics runners. Lots of ventilation.

Carrying boots once was enough.

 

[John in Leeds]

I wear light Asics runners. Lots of ventilation.

'Light' and 'lots of ventilation' would really float my boat

I'll try some for the fit

 

[Kanga]

'Light' and 'lots of ventilation' would really float my boat

I'll try some for the fit

The rain pours through them but they walk dry almost instantly. They get a bit cold in the snow.

 

[dytzs_pilgrim]

Will join this thread as I need new walking shoes (still need to read everyone's comments here)....I agree, hiking boots is not necessary in Camino.....A comfortable walking shoes is all you need. .... This is based on my experience although I've only done the 110 Kms from Sarria!

 

[Diogo92]

After reading all the debate, I think that it all depends from what time of the season you are going. Has @newfydog said, Gore-Tex it's of the most breathable waterproof membranes that exist out there in the market. But I think that, the process of construction and sewing of the boot, it's also important. So that's why there are boots and shoes with Gore-Tex which are not so hot has that, and some that can boil your feet. And if you really question it, think like this: if it didn't really work, would somebody use it? Would the military designing things with it? I don't think so.

Something that people also forget about breathability and waterproofing is that you have to do a good maintenance to your material. Of course that Gore-Tex will break, there isn't in the world, one single waterproof membrane that won't break after a long use. But if you don’t do a proper maintenance to it, it will break much faster that it was supposed to. That’s why you should take some cares before you leave home.
The thing is: clean the boots, apply cream (if they are in full leather, or if they have some leather) and pass a rewaterproofing spray. If you are going to take your much worn boots/shoes, and you expect heavy rain, you should do this. You are even expanding the life span of it!

Other thing that matters, it's the season that you are going. If you are going in summer, yes, trail shoes and running shoes are great for you to walk the Camiño, even with some hill's that you are facing. But now, try this: go in Winter or in the end of Autumn, or in early Spring. What would you prefer? Being fresh or dry feet? Of course that you can buy some waterproof socks, but the cost is much the same, has a pair of new shoes, and even counting with that, they would probably have to take the double of the time to dry.

So, just like packing, it's a thing for you to analyze. @dougfitz once told me in here: pack for the climate, and then dress for the weather.

I'm going to start my second Camiño next week, and I'll take my waterproof shoes, but only because I'm counting with rain. Because if it was June, or July or August, trust me, I would definitely take my trail shoes.

Best Regards
Diogo

 

[HermanTheGerman]

Hello all, just returned from a walk and wanted to vent (wishing my shoes would do the same).
Bought a "good" pair of Merrell moabs gortex hiking shoes only to find out my feet get too hot. I always wear two pair of socks and have moved down to the lightest pairs but still there's a furnace in my shoes. Sucks. Need to look for something new. Any suggestions?
I'm going to walk Camino Frances in Sept so I still have time to break in something new and "airy".
Thanks

Start by buying boots that fit the shape of your foot instead of beginning damage control before you've even started. 2 pairs of socks!?!? Buying boots one or sizes too big!?!?! Really, some of what people here have written here is absurd. Thin running socks combined with boots that fit are all that is needed. No blisters, NEVER. Heavy rain? Goretex and leather. Good weather? Mesh and goretex. If your foot suits a Salomon you can't go wrong.

 

[Stefania13/14]

Today in precisely 2 months I set off - having everything sorted but my footwear made me panic a little...Guess I did rush out the gates with the new Merrells (even though I wore them around the home office for a couple of days) - in South Africa shoe brands like Salomon and Merrell only come in half sizes, so 8 1/2; 19 1/2 and 10 1/2 - perhaps being 1 1/2 sizes bigger than my normal size is a little much too - bought a pair of New Balance trial running shoes today, with the widest foot width they have and only one size bigger - will cut the socks down to one pair of coolmax and start with 5km on a flat and see how it goes - thanks for all your valuable input everyone.

Hi CarlaH!
Glad to hear you have a new plan for your footwear. I worry some about the shoe thing even though mine fit well they do get hot. Your question brought the answers though. I need to take off my shoes and take insoles out regularly as I walk. Sounds like that would be great times for café con leche and food : )
I am going to be on the trail the same time as you. I leave SJPP on May 18 and by May 21 will be in Pamplona. From then it's just see how it goes for me. Hope to meet you and your happy feet along the way.
Buen Camino
Stefania

 

[Espero]

Will be looking at the New Balance shoes I think with the larger widths in the toe box area as seen in previous posting.

I need a wider shoe in the toe box area also. Take a look at the Asics Gel Scram trail running shoes. Mine weigh 5 oz. less than my pair of Merrell Phoenix and, using the axiom of 1 lb. on the foot equals 5 lb. on the back, that's the equivalent of not carrying 1.5 lbs. I've worn them while wading streams and they dry quickly.

 

[Diogo92]

Start by buying boots that fit the shape of your foot instead of beginning damage control before you've even started. 2 pairs of socks!?!? Buying boots one or sizes too big!?!?! Really, some of what people here have written here is absurd. Thin running socks combined with boots that fit are all that is needed. No blisters, NEVER. Heavy rain? Goretex and leather. Good weather? Mesh and goretex. If your foot suits a Salomon you can't go wrong.

Take it easy mate, not everything work on everybody. A good example is that there are people who have done the Camiño with some Quechua Forclaz 500, and had no problem, and I got my feet and ankles sored (and those horrible calluses )

Every feet/person it's different. Some things work, some don't. The problem of all this is that you have to spend money, sometimes without having possibility of getting it back, to understand what works with you.

 

[Dutch]

I need a wider shoe in the toe box area also. Take a look at the Asics Gel Scram trail running shoes. Mine weigh 5 oz. less than my pair of Merrell Phoenix and, using the axiom of 1 lb. on the foot equals 5 lb. on the back, that's the equivalent of not carrying 1.5 lbs. I've worn them while wading streams and they dry quickly.

The nike trailrunners Wildhorse and Terra kiger have pretty wide toeboxes as well. To give you some more options.

 

[lynnejohn]

Again, Apex Sierra. Many width choices, big toe box and awesome grippy tread.

 

[John in Leeds]

Just to add, my personal experiences with Goretex have not been so good in spite of numerous optimistic purchases. Natural leather boots have in the past been a little more successful (and waterproof) but mainly in cooler climbs. My main problem is that I get wet from the inside. Perspiration is not sufficiently moved to the surface and eventually soaking occurs both in shoes and clothing. The best solution for clothing for me (although not perfect) is from Paramo. I could do with boots/shoes that work the same way.

 

[Alyssa]

Every feet/person it's different. Some things work, some don't. The problem of all this is that you have to spend money, sometimes without having possibility of getting it back, to understand what works with you.

I purchase my shoes at REI, which has a 100% satisfaction guaranteed policy. Anything can be returned within one year. When I told the sales people about my concerns, they told me to get outside, try the boots in all kinds of terrain and weather and if they don't fit, return them! I'm pretty sure that policy applies even on international order (http://www.rei.com/help/placing-international-orders.html).

 

[HermanTheGerman]

Every feet/person it's different. Some things work, some don't.

That's exactly my point. Buy boots that fit the shape of your foot instead of listening to other people's opinions of what's good and what isn't. A Lowe Renegade GTX for example doesn't comply with the wishes of my feet, but some people swear by them... and then others run out and buy them based on mere speculation (this is a general comment and not directed at any particular one post). It is obviously better to make an intelligent purchasing decision at the beginning. Why anyone would start a Camino without doing any research into footwear and at least trying them out first I can't understand. If for instance the boots turn out to be uncomfortable after a couple of days (usually its the other way round), then OK, damage control is obviously required and maybe wearing 2 pairs of socks is a short-term solution to the problem (although this should have already been identified as a problem in training / wearing in sessions). Preparation and forethought go a long way, as once you're out there (as you know) its sometimes difficult to remedy such a problem. "Be prepared" is what they taught me in scouts many years ago and I still adhere to this sound advice.

Buen Camino.

 

[Diogo92]

I purchase my shoes at REI, which has a 100% satisfaction guaranteed policy. Anything can be returned within one year. When I told the sales people about my concerns, they told me to get outside, try the boots in all kinds of terrain and weather and if they don't fit, return them! I'm pretty sure that policy applies even on international order (http://www.rei.com/help/placing-international-orders.html).

Buying from REI, it's good if you live in the U.S., if you buy it in Europe it's going to cost you a lot of more money, because of the shipping costs, and the bonus of the costumes fee. For example, in Portugal, anything above 20€ that comes out from the European Union Trade Zone, must pass via costumes, and pay extra 23% of VAT over the value of the product that you already paid. And sometimes, the product never gets out from costumes. Weird thing, I call it...

Plus, returning it via UPS it’s also expensive. Another thing is that you should try the things in store, and get some advice from the sellers. They must have a "know how" about the products that they are selling, and they can help you with that. Buying it online it's a risk. I've never had any problems with buying footwear online, but only because I already know what kind of shoe/boot I can buy.

That's exactly my point. Buy boots that fit the shape of your foot instead of listening to other people's opinions of what's good and what isn't. A Lowe Renegade GTX for example doesn't comply with the wishes of my feet, but some people swear by them... and then others run out and buy them based on mere speculation (this is a general comment and not directed at any particular one post). It is obviously better to make an intelligent purchasing decision at the beginning. Why anyone would start a Camino without doing any research into footwear and at least trying them out first I can't understand. If for instance the boots turn out to be uncomfortable after a couple of days (usually its the other way round), then OK, damage control is obviously required and maybe wearing 2 pairs of socks is a short-term solution to the problem (although this should have already been identified as a problem in training / wearing in sessions). Preparation and forethought go a long way, as once you're out there (as you know) its sometimes difficult to remedy such a problem. "Be prepared" is what they taught me in scouts many years ago and I still adhere to this sound advice.

Buen Camino.

Spot on my friend

 

[NicoZ]

All new boots or shoes need to be broken in. Hard soled boots have an even greater need to be broken. Fluffy bunny slippers flex quite a bit but the further you get away from bunny slipper the more people need to spend time getting the boots/shoes ready.

That means not trying to cover record distances with a new purchase.

 

[Dutch]

Yes, breaking in new shoes is always good, but not always a must. I bought new running shoes in Astorga and started wearing them from that day on. I have had no troubles at all with these "not broken in" shoes. They were an instant succes for my feet. Like a match made in camino heaven.

Further more i buy new running shoes about every 4 months and always start running long distances in them from day one. Never have any troubles with any of my new "not broken in yet" shoes.

 

[indyinmaine]

I'm really surprised that no one mentions New Balance. The ones I wore have been discontinued (only 15 oz.) but the replacement MW1569 is only 16.9 oz. Their soles are VERY stable and worked very well in hot weather and as good as any others in wet.

 

[Alyssa]

Yes, breaking in new shoes is always good, but not always a must. I bought new running shoes in Astorga and started wearing them from that day on. I have had no troubles at all with these "not broken in" shoes. They were an instant succes for my feet. Like a match made in camino heaven.

Further more i buy new running shoes about every 4 months and always start running long distances in them from day one. Never have any troubles with any of my new "not broken in yet" shoes.

I've had the same experience with almost all my running shoes. In fact, I am going to return the Merrell Siren short-collared hiking boot that rubs my baby toes raw, get a new pair of the Adidas running shoes I've used for years with no problems, and take those.

 

[Alyssa]

Buying from REI, it's good if you live in the U.S., if you buy it in Europe it's going to cost you a lot of more money, because of the shipping costs, and the bonus of the costumes fee. For example, in Portugal, anything above 20€ that comes out from the European Union Trade Zone, must pass via costumes, and pay extra 23% of VAT over the value of the product that you already paid. And sometimes, the product never gets out from costumes. Weird thing, I call it...

Plus, returning it via UPS it’s also expensive. Another thing is that you should try the things in store, and get some advice from the sellers. They must have a "know how" about the products that they are selling, and they can help you with that. Buying it online it's a risk. I've never had any problems with buying footwear online, but only because I already know what kind of shoe/boot I can buy.



Spot on my friend

That makes sense, Diogo. I didn't think about the added expense of the overseas shipping.

 

[Erin]

So, running shoes will be adequate to walk the camino? I have tried multiple pairs of hiking shoes/boots but they just do not provide the same support in the specific areas I need. My Brooks running shoes feel great.

 

[Kanga]

So, running shoes will be adequate to walk the camino? I have tried multiple pairs of hiking shoes/boots but they just do not provide the same support in the specific areas I need. My Brooks running shoes feel great.

Yes. Unless you are walking in winter. Running shoes are generally made for pounding on hard surfaces so the soles will be more than adequate for the Camino.

 

[Dutch]

I've had the same experience with almost all my running shoes. In fact, I am going to return the Merrell Siren short-collared hiking boot that rubs my baby toes raw, get a new pair of the Adidas running shoes I've used for years with no problems, and take those.

Sounds like a good plan to me
I am now trying out new socks. The Injini toesocks. First day of running, so far, so good and they are very light, but a bit of a hassle to put on ( and you look silly without shoes).
If i like 'm enough, im gonna bring 'm.

 

[indyinmaine]

I must be shouting in the dark! NEW BALANCE! I never turned my ankle ONCE. Your'e not running the Camino, you're walking it!

 

[Dutch]

I must be shouting in the dark! NEW BALANCE! I never turned my ankle ONCE. Your'e not running the Camino, you're walking it!

I have never turned my ankle once and i don't have NB shoes. I love my Nike runners...can't help it.

I guess everybody has their own favorites and once you find something you like, you tend to stick with it.
Why change a winning team, i say, but what works for you or me, might not be a good fit for the next person.

 

[Kanga]

I must be shouting in the dark! NEW BALANCE! I never turned my ankle ONCE. Your'e not running the Camino, you're walking it!

If they happen to suit your foot, good. I'm better in Asics runners. They are lighter and more flexible. My husband walked a few years ago in New Balance and got masses of blisters. He never gets blisters in his Jacoforms. If someone has been wearing a particular brand for years in comfort then, IMO, they should stick to that brand. Everyone's feet are different.

 

[Diogo92]

Once again, this it's only an opinion, but if you all can, check out this article: http://www.backpackingnorth.com/ultralight-makeover-give-your-feet-a-break/

 

[Brendan Dawson]

As I am finding out about most items used on the Camino, it all comes down to individual preference AND requirements. However, I just purchased a pair of Salomon "gore-text lined" low boots, installed my orthotics ( from running days) instead of supplied insoles and have walked two 20K+ days in them...one pair of thin (liners) socks and they performed great. Not too hot, no blisters and pretty light weight! I replaced my Lowa Renegades with them (Great Mountain Boots) and I am well satisfied!
I have tried various running shoes (Asics, New Balance, Saucony) and find that none of them give me the support that I need for a much injured left ankle. That's me! This is one that you really have to figure out for yourself
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[leiper]

Hello all, just returned from a walk and wanted to vent (wishing my shoes would do the same).
Bought a "good" pair of Merrell moabs gortex hiking shoes only to find out my feet get too hot. I always wear two pair of socks and have moved down to the lightest pairs but still there's a furnace in my shoes. Sucks. Need to look for something new. Any suggestions?
I'm going to walk Camino Frances in Sept so I still have time to break in something new and "airy".
Thanks

Hello --- this query worries me! I just purchased Gortex Merrell'. I've done two good walks in them (12 and 13km) and there may not be enough cushioning. I am training on Vancouver Island and Calgary, so perhaps similar terrain to the Norwegian pilgrim who previously replied. I won't train in serious heat until this summer, which will be too late to break anything in before I head out Sept. lst. I will definitely try the New Balance. How have you found them since your post? Has a difference in socks made a difference?

 

[Rambler]

So, running shoes will be adequate to walk the camino? I have tried multiple pairs of hiking shoes/boots but they just do not provide the same support in the specific areas I need. My Brooks running shoes feel great.

I would caution making this blanket statement. Running shoes may be good for someone who has trained and has strong ankles, feet, and good balance. But I would be hard pressed to say that a poorly trained peregrino would not be safer with a bit more lateral support and a more stable sole.
I agree most hiking boots are overkill, but I don't want to put a person out there in shoes that don't match up to their preparation and condition.
You are carrying a pack and walking much farther over a long period of time.

Rambler

 

[Kanga]

I would caution making this blanket statement. Running shoes may be good for someone who has trained and has strong ankles, feet, and good balance. But I would be hard pressed to say that a poorly trained peregrino would not be safer with a bit more lateral support and a more stable sole.
Rambler

I never train, I'm over 60, I've had a broken ankle, and I'm blind (virtually) in one eye. I wear runners. For starters my balance is much better if my foot has some feedback from the ground - something I found completely missing as I slid and skittered over gravel and scree on my first Camino, in boots. I took boots on my second Camino, too. And carried them most of the way. Since then I've walked thousands of kilometres happily in runners.

If someone has used and likes boots great. That is what they should wear. I would never suggest otherwise. But if they are used to walking at home in runners (or sandals or casual light shoes) for long walks or hikes, then why steer them elsewhere? As long as the shoes are sufficiently well made to last the distance, and they are not walking in the depths of winter, chances are they'll be fine.

After trying boots on two Caminos, and starting in New Balance on the third Camino, halfway along my spouse put on his "evening" shoes, a pair of Jacoforms, and has happily been wearing them on every Camino since.

These would absolutely not suit me; for starters they are too flat for me. But they suit him.

On the question of "safety", IMO good waking stick technique gives much more stability than a boot or shoe ever will.

I was with someone who broke her leg on the Camino. She put her foot in a hole while reading a map. She was wearing boots. She did not use sticks.

 

[Alyssa]

Sounds like a good plan to me
I am now trying out new socks. The Injini toesocks. First day of running, so far, so good and they are very light, but a bit of a hassle to put on ( and you look silly without shoes).
If i like 'm enough, im gonna bring 'm.

I've been checking out the Injinis at REI after seeing some other people's comments about them. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

 

[Warren Sly]

Carla, I've been having similar experiences trying to find the right footwear for my upcoming Camino (you can read about some of my travails here http://sometimesshetravels.blogspot.com/2014/02/booting-boots.html). I suspect I will probably end up wearing a pair of my favorite trail running shoes (as suggested by Dutch in a previous post-if I could double like his comment, I would).

There's a great article about choosing the right hiking boots at http://www.patc.us/hiking/gear/boots.html. The most useful line in my opinion can be found at the bottom of the page where it says, "Put a little 'indoor distance' on the boots. If they still feel good, you've found a reasonably good boot for your foot. If they don't feel good, resist the temptation to keep them - take them back and keep looking." I took mine back.

I'm a guy with Kermit-style wide and big feet. I feel totally deprived of the fervor of shoe shopping women feel (ok a lot feel), since my choices are so limited. I mean 6eeeeee!? besides New Balance, any other shoe companies come to mind?

 

[lynnejohn]

I've been checking out the Injinis at REI after seeing some other people's comments about them. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

I bought a pair based on many recommendations here and intended them as a liner under heavier socks. (I used to get little toe blisters.) Problem is, although they are thin, the extra material adds just enough bulk to put some pressure against my forefoot and toes. An ordinary liner sock doesn't. So by all means try them - just be on the lookout that they don't cause problems while solving others.

 

[Alyssa]

I'm a guy with Kermit-style wide and big feet. I feel totally deprived of the fervor of shoe shopping women feel (ok a lot feel), since my choices are so limited. I mean 6eeeeee!? besides New Balance, any other shoe companies come to mind?

Lol. Believe me, I have zero fervor about shoe-shopping. In fact, I've written an entire post about this very topic.

 

[lynnejohn]

I'm a guy with Kermit-style wide and big feet. I feel totally deprived of the fervor of shoe shopping women feel (ok a lot feel), since my choices are so limited. I mean 6eeeeee!? besides New Balance, any other shoe companies come to mind?

Apex
http://www.apexfoot.com/search.php?search_query=mens+sierra

 

[Dutch]

I've been checking out the Injinis at REI after seeing some other people's comments about them. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Well, i bought a pair of the Injini run 2.0 lightweight and a pair the original weight socks.
I like the thin lightweight socks better then the original weight. I think they air your feet better. At least mine. I tend to sweat easy, so socks that are too thick, are not for me. The lightweights are, materialwise, perfect. Surely for a spring/summer/early autumn camino.
The original weights i will only wear when its cold. Then they are just right for me.

First the negatives:
- can't tumble dry. Probably because of the toes. A normal sock can shrink a little without causing much problems, but if the toes of the injini shrink, they are not going to fit. Maybe not a problem on the Camino, but in day to day life, i throw (almost) everything in the tumble dryer.
- It is a bit of a hassle to put on.
- I dont care, but it looks very silly
- Not cheap and i have to order abroad. Whats up with that Injini??

Positives:
- I feel like my feet feel a lot dryer after a run then in most other socks. Wicks moisture very good. Coolmax works great!
- Your toes have freedom to move and that feels kind of awesome. Some of my other running socks are somewhat tight and then your toes are packed together. I kind of like the feeling of toes not being skin-to-skin
- Very comfortable. Did not think that at first.
- Can't really say after 2 testdrives, but quality looks ok.

All in all, i think i'm sold. I would say, try a pair. I think you'll like 'm

 

[headinclouds]

I walked the Portuguese in August-September and for all my preparation and all the advice I took from this forum on footwear, socks and blisters I wasn't completely ready for what the heat caused. I had goretex walking shoes and two socks; a thin wicking liner and an thicker outer. I blistered on the 4th day because my feet swelled in the heat.

Once I realised what was happening I started slipping off my shoes every time I took a break. That made all the difference for me. Not only did it allow the build up of moisture to evaporate, but the evaporation cooled my feet. At times it was like an ice bath! I still remember it as one of the great joys of each day

cheers,
Phil.
totallyphil.blogspot.com.au

 

[leiper]

I walked the Portuguese in August-September and for all my preparation and all the advice I took from this forum on footwear, socks and blisters I wasn't completely ready for what the heat caused. I had goretex walking shoes and two socks; a thin wicking liner and an thicker outer. I blistered on the 4th day because my feet swelled in the heat.

Once I realised what was happening I started slipping off my shoes every time I took a break. That made all the difference for me. Not only did it allow the build up of moisture to evaporate, but the evaporation cooled my feet. At times it was like an ice bath! I still remember it as one of the great joys of each day

cheers,
Phil.
totallyphil.blogspot.com.au

I think we'll take your advice and air our feet. Although I bought a larger size, I don't think they'll be large enough. I'll also buy a pair of trainers… and see how that goes. Thanks!

 

[Erin]

I purchase my shoes at REI, which has a 100% satisfaction guaranteed policy. Anything can be returned within one year. When I told the sales people about my concerns, they told me to get outside, try the boots in all kinds of terrain and weather and if they don't fit, return them! I'm pretty sure that policy applies even on international order (http://www.rei.com/help/placing-international-orders.html).

Me too! I love REI. I am now trying a couple pairs of trail runners. I am hoping one of them will be a winner. It has been a huge relief to know that hiking shoes are not a must. I have plenty of hiking shoes, but most are for 8-10 miles on uphill rocky terrain or scrambling. I want more comfort

 

[Erin]

Hey Erin

I have done two Caminos in Brooks Addiction. I have used both mesh and the leather version. Both were great ...but I preferred the leather for more lateral support.
Running/walking shoes worked for me more so than the traditional hiking shoe/boot.

I would only suggest that with whatever Brooks you use that you test them on all surfaces before you go. E.g tarseal....fine gravel...chunky gravel. ..uneven surfaces (tree roots..rocky terrain). Just to make sure they will give you the support and cushioning you will need for day upon day walking.

I just recently road (treadmill tested) the

Hey Erin

I have done two Caminos in Brooks Addiction. I have used both mesh and the leather version. Both were great ...but I preferred the leather for more lateral support.
Running/walking shoes worked for me more so than the traditional hiking shoe/boot.

I would only suggest that with whatever Brooks you use that you test them on all surfaces before you go. E.g tarseal....fine gravel...chunky gravel. ..uneven surfaces (tree roots..rocky terrain). Just to make sure they will give you the support and cushioning you will need for day upon day walking.

Trying out the Brooks Cascadia! Will keep you posted

 

[Alyssa]

Me too! I love REI. I am now trying a couple pairs of trail runners. I am hoping one of them will be a winner. It has been a huge relief to know that hiking shoes are not a must. I have plenty of hiking shoes, but most are for 8-10 miles on uphill rocky terrain or scrambling. I want more comfort

I feel the same way, Erin. I'm also trying out Brooks trail running shoes right now. (Can't remember whether they're Cascadia's or not). These I got from a local running store though so won't be able to return them once I wear them outside.

*Footnote: ended up with the Brooks Cascadia 9 from REI.

 

[koilife]

The problem being, feet get hot, feet get wet with perspiration, feet swell and get blisters. Having extra wide feet is also a problem as extra room in the toe box is needed. Will be looking at the New Balance shoes I think with the larger widths in the toe box area as seen in previous posting.

My advice is not to care about preventing your feet from getting wet---sooner or later, they will. Instead, focus on moisture management. How quickly can you dry out the shoes once wet and while walking? Also, it is rather trivial to overwhelm a waterproof, breathable membrane with excessive sweat and thereby render it completely nonfunctional.

On the other hand, non-leather, non Gore-Tex (or other breathable membrane), shoes will drain and dry out much faster. A good pair of merino socks will buffer against cold temps, or CoolMax if preferred and expecting heat.

On my Camino, I walked with trail runners that were professionally-fitted at a running specialty store and with one layer of merino socks. The first 10 days or so were in near constant rain through deep mud and puddles. The temp never broke 40 Fahrenheit. I had no blisters and no issues from the cold. Then, later on that same trip, with the same shoes and socks, I walked in 90+ Fahrenheit for another 10 days or so, still with no blisters or overheating. I used no extra precautions, such as silicon coating (much better than petroleum jelly).

Your mileage may vary, but I'm a dedicated member of the non-waterproofed trail runner crowd.

 

[koknesis]

Just my 2 cents ... for those who really need a good ankle support perhaps Meindl Dessert Fox might be an option. My choice for walking light trails in summer heat is Ecco Cerro sandals.

 

[StuartM]

Just my 2 cents ... for those who really need a good ankle support perhaps Meindl Dessert Fox might be an option. My choice for walking light trails in summer heat is Ecco Cerro sandals.

I have a pair of Desert Fox boots I got cheap as military surplus. I found them very tough on the heels, lots of blistering. I know everyone is different. They are very hard wearing boots but on mine there's a ridge that sits at the right level to rub. Very supportive for load carrying but just not comfortable for long treks.

 

[Mark Lee]

I found that wearing thin, synthetic, single layer running socks and applying Vaseline all over my feet every morning kept them blister free when I did the Camino. Yeah, the Vaseline is kind of a pain to apply every morning as it's important to get it between the toes, but it sure helped. You can buy small, pack-able tubes of it.
The running socks also dried very quickly after washing and they are small and light enough you can pack about six pairs to facilitate changing them out. Lots of good brands of them out there.

 

[koilife]

I've been checking out the Injinis at REI after seeing some other people's comments about them. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Tried them. Didn't like the feel, but thought I'd push past that. Got tiny little blisters between the toes while training and simply decided to ditch them.

But, a friend of mine wore them with Five Fingers for his entire Camino (he has tougher feet than me!) and he swears by the combination. Since we have the same size feet, he now has my Injinis.

 

[koknesis]

I have a pair of Desert Fox boots I got cheap as military surplus. I found them very tough on the heels, lots of blistering. I know everyone is different. They are very hard wearing boots but on mine there's a ridge that sits at the right level to rub. Very supportive for load carrying but just not comfortable for long treks.

well, an old fashion trick how to get rid of ridges and shape a boot according your feet is to take a hammer and hammer out from inside all the spots disturbing. you may wet the boot in advance. have done this on a couple of leather hiking boots. works like a charm.
human foot is so unique, that no mass production boot will fit perfectly.
another trick how to wear in boots in one day is to immerse them in water for 5 min. wear a thick wool sock, walk with those wet boots for a couple of km or until you start to feel that a blister is close. then let them slowly dry. just don’t do this in wintertime

 

[GerryDel]

Walking in Texas in Merrell waterproof. I think they're non gortex and they seem fine. I think I would have just preferred my usual New Balance walking shoes though.

 

[adrianflude]

Here are my Meindl Borneo full boot with calf leather inners, after +/- 1000kms of camino walking in between May and July 2012...couldn't fault them! But it's all in the preparation - bedding in and then good management of your feet; and not forgetting your socks! Liner and thicker sock, stop EVERY two hours religiously, remove, air and change if necessary, after a dousing of Fungasol foot powder....simple and NOT one blister in over 1000kms!

Buen camino!

 

[indyinmaine]

Walking in Texas in Merrell waterproof. I think they're non gortex and they seem fine. I think I would have just preferred my usual New Balance walking shoes though.

The stability of NB is really their strong point. And they have a wide toe which cuts down on blisters. Everyone has their favorite but before you decide you really ought to give them a trial run.

 

[petitewalker]

I feel the same way, Erin. I'm also trying out Brooks trail running shoes right now. (Can't remember whether they're Cascadia's or not). These I got from a local running store though so won't be able to return them once I wear them outside.

*Footnote: ended up with the Brooks Cascadia 9 from REI.

I've been training in Brooks Cascadia 8's and love them. They are roomy in the toe box and feel like slippers coming straight out of the box. Waiting for the UPS truck to deliver my second pair which I will use on the Camino this September after I give them a quick break in. Will continue to train in the ones I have now which currently consists of two longish (9 to ll) mile walks weekly plus 4 more days of 3 to 6 miles with 2/3 days at the gym. Will start with longer (12 plus) miles next week adding more ups and downs and getting that pack on my back. Couldn't be happier with these trail runners. No blisters or hot spots so far. Feel so much better than even a light low hiker like the Merrrill Moab which my husband is wearing. I'm a happy camper(walker).

 

[Rebekah Scott]

On the far end of the purchase spectrum, I can tell you the hiking shoes most frequently abandoned along the trail halfway are overwhelmingly Merrells. Found another pair today!

 

[Magwood]

I walked this year's camino Portuguese in merrell Moab ventilators. They were good straight from the box. I agree with @adrianflude regarding airing your feet every couple of hours, but this is only really possible during fine weather. When it is pouring with rain and there are no pit stops available it is just a matter of plodding on and hoping for the best.

I have recently posted a thorough assessment of clothes and walking gear on my blog

 

[YMR20]

I love my asics gel scout!
I will start in July!

 

[teda]

Hello all, just returned from a walk and wanted to vent (wishing my shoes would do the same).
Bought a "good" pair of Merrell moabs gortex hiking shoes only to find out my feet get too hot. I always wear two pair of socks and have moved down to the lightest pairs but still there's a furnace in my shoes. Sucks. Need to look for something new. Any suggestions?
I'm going to walk Camino Frances in Sept so I still have time to break in something new and "airy".
Thanks

Hi, As I see there is many earlier replies but it turns out that somebody else had the same problem as me. One year I bought the Merell "good shoes" and I suffered all the way. Every day, after a few hours walking my feet were burning... It was horrible... Last year I had the shoes of "Salamanca" and it was only a little bit better. Therefore I complettely don't know what shoes wear this year. I think it any problem with my feet , not with shoes...
In spitte of all - Buen Camino

 

[indyinmaine]

Hi, As I see there is many earlier replies but it turns out that somebody else had the same problem as me. One year I bought the Merell "good shoes" and I suffered all the way. Every day, after a few hours walking my feet were burning... It was horrible... Last year I had the shoes of "Salamanca" and it was only a little bit better. Therefore I complettely don't know what shoes wear this year. I think it any problem with my feet , not with shoes...
In spitte of all - Buen Camino

I feel like I'm shouting into a gale force wind. TRY New Balance. You may not like them, but try them! I tried Merrell and DIDN'T like them!

 

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