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To my shame ive never done any pilgrimages in UK eitherYes, @Togabogie, I'm considering that too. But I have a better sense of what's there - and am considering the train from continental EU, so GB (especially England) is easier.
I know it's not a pilgrimage, but the Coast to Coast is a wonderful walk. It's about 300 K and takes anywhere from 9 days to about 14 days. I've walked it twice and will probably will again some time next year. good thing is you can camp most of the way if you choose.This year the pesky Schengen visa requirements and my unalterable commitments conspire together to prevent me from walking in Spain. So I have been looking to Britain for solace, and escape from the Schengen Zone for a few weeks.
And I found this:
And oh what a rabbit hole it is! I know this wonderful website will absolutely be no news to many, but I have had my head in the Spanish sand - so have not been paying any attention to pilgrimages in Britain.
So anyone with feet on the ground and some walking experince...
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble? It doesn't have to be one of the ones the BPT lists...anything is fair game at the moment.
Thanks!
Meaning?New visa restrictions for England shortly
As mentioned above, it's the cost of accommodation on walks in Britain that are the sticking point. I haven't investigated but the recent thread from @peregrina2000 about accommodation support for Dave's walk across America made me wonder if there is a pilgrim accommodation network in the UK?
So they won't apply to Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland?V
New visa restrictions for England shortly Ireland wild Atlantic way better option.
Try the Mary Michael route. Believe it is now signed from Lands end to the Norfolk coast. They have tried to keep it following a reasonable route to include campsites, youth hostels etc and it passes through Glastonbury. Speak nicely to hotels who might let you camp in grounds.Sadly, yes, I do know. And no, my pockets are not hugely deep. But I am good a pinching pennies so I can use them where I'd rather...
The Schengen travel zone and the EU are two different and separate entities which overlap to a large extent. There are EU countries which are not parties to the Schengen agreement and there are Schengen members which are not part of the EU. Ireland is an EU member but not part of the Schengen zone and so time spent there should not count towards the Schengen zone 90 day visa-free travel period.I am wrong, please correct me. Both Ireland and the UK both have wonderful pilgrimage routes.
I was typing a reply but Bradypus beat me to it (and used a very clear and elegant construction)...The Schengen travel zone and the EU are two different and separate entities which overlap to a large extent. There are EU countries which are not parties to the Schengen agreement and there are Schengen members which are not part of the EU. Ireland is an EU member but not part of the Schengen zone and so time spent there should not count towards the Schengen zone 90 day visa-free travel period.
Nope...nothing surfaced ⛏There isn't, or if there is it is so far underground its probably run by Antipodeans
Oh I think you must do St Cuthbert, it is one of the best 100km possible (outside Spain, claro, he adds hurriedly), taking in several fine abbeys, Walter Scott's gaff, Roman ruins and a road, glorious border countryside (the border I live on), the end of the Pennine Way, the magnificent rolling high empty Cheviot hills, the meanders of the Tweed and, best of all, the walk across the sands to holy Lindisfarne - take your boots off and walk barefoot at low tide across the sucking sands for the best (free) foot massage ever. Let me know when/if you're coming and stay at my place on the way there/back.
When I was still writing for the Guardian I did a few pieces on it:
Over the sands and on to Holy Island
With a nearly miraculous cure for blisters, the Guardian Northerner's sturdy pilgrim Alan Sykes completes his journey along St Cuthbert's Waywww.theguardian.com
Iceland IS in the Schengen zone, but IS NOT a member of the EU.Ireland is in the EU but not the SZ. Unlike other offshore countries, like (very annoyingly) Iceland, which is in both.
The Schengen travel zone and the EU are two different and separate entities which overlap to a large extent. There are EU countries which are not parties to the Schengen agreement and there are Schengen members which are not part of the EU. Ireland is an EU member but not part of the Schengen zone and so time spent there should not count towards the Schengen zone 90 day visa-free travel period.
Not a pilgrimage, in a ‘conventional’ sense, but if you want to ponder on the wonders of nature check out South West Coast Path. https://readingontheroad54893552.wo...-by-the-coast-path-the-south-west-coast-path/This year the pesky Schengen visa requirements and my unalterable commitments conspire together to prevent me from walking in Spain. So I have been looking to Britain for solace, and escape from the Schengen Zone for a few weeks.
And I found this:
And oh what a rabbit hole it is! I know this wonderful website will absolutely be no news to many, but I have had my head in the Spanish sand - so have not been paying any attention to pilgrimages in Britain.
So anyone with feet on the ground and some walking experince...
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble? It doesn't have to be one of the ones the BPT lists...anything is fair game at the moment.
Thanks!
I know it's not a pilgrimage, but the Coast to Coast is a wonderful walk. It's about 300 K and takes anywhere from 9 days to about 14 days. I've walked it twice and will probably will again some time next year. good thing is you can camp most of the way if you choose.
An additional comment about accommodations on British walks--I walked the Coast to Coast Walk in September 2018 with a Camino friend and managed to stay in relatively inexpensive places most of the time. There were bunk barns (very inexpensive), YHA hostels (also inexpensive and even more so if you join the organization), and B&Bs (very reasonable because we shared a room with two twin beds). We ate most dinners in pubs, which saved a lot of expense, and took sandwiches along for lunch. It was certainly more expensive than the Spanish Caminos I've walked, but was very doable. It did take advance planning though. I made all our reservations well in advance, including for the YHA hostels. You can have a company do it for you, but it was much cheaper and more fun to be my own tour guide. If you don't book ahead, you run the risk of being forced to stay in much more expensive places.As mentioned before, the main issues with pilgrimages in Britain is the accomodation. Salisbury to Canterbury either by the North Downs Way or the South Downs Way is possible by hostel or camping. There has also been a growth in pub chains offering affordable accomodation.
View all YHA accommodation in England & Wales | YHA
Discover all YHA accommodation across the length and breadth of England & Wales. Choose from urban & rural locations. Book direct with YHA for the best price.www.yha.org.uk
The South Down Way is a lesser travelled one as it is further away from the larger towns but you may be scrambling for accomodation.
Old Way - The British Pilgrimage Trust
The British Pilgrimage Trust is working to develop one of Britain’s great rediscovered pilgrimage routes: the Old Way, a 240 mile journey from Southampton to Canterbury. An Ancient Route Like the Camino de Santiago de Compostela in Spain, this pilgrimage path was almost forgotten – but the BPT...britishpilgrimage.org
The BPT are promoting the "Old Way" for which accommodation should be easier, as it passes the coastal towns.
Du-uh. Of course. I knew that.Iceland IS in the Schengen zone, but IS NOT a member of the EU.
Except going to Poland doesn't give me a 'pause" in the schengen visa clock, right? And I don't want to go to Denmark. It's a dangerous place. Last time I was there I gained 10 pounds in two weeks.You have to leave Poland for a day every 90 days or so (and not to another Schengen country) but otherwise you have an unlimited stay.
There is something similar for Denmark too.
Nope, not right. Google Nomadic Matt bilateral if you ever want to pursue this. He explains the legal background of bilateral agreements that are still valid. You need to leave Schengen (getting a Schengen Exit stamp), then enter Poland from outside Schengen and you are good and can enjoy the benefits of a Poland-US bilateral agreement. What he doesn't explain: How to enter Poland from outside Schengen and stopping Polish border control from stamping another Schengen Entry stamp in your passport at a Polish airport or other Polish border control point ...Except going to Poland doesn't give me a 'pause" in the schengen visa clock, right?
Yes too long ago, and just day walks. In Cumbria. And the Cotswolds. Glorious, especially Cumbria.Did you walk in the UK before?
No pause. You want to do the Poland visit as your last stop or stops in Schengen before heading home until you qualify for a return visit. You should also keep receipts to prove that you did not leave Poland for another Schengen country during that time. It is tricky but someone must have done it before.Except going to Poland doesn't give me a 'pause" in the schengen visa clock, right?
Another "Not a pilgrimage" route, but one we entitled "Our Yorkshire Camino" when we walked it in May 2018 having previously walked the Frances (twice) and the Portuguese from Lisbon in previous years.
This route is a combination of 'The Wolds Way' followed by a short section of the 'Cleveland Way', to just north of Scarborough. From there along the 'Tabular Hills Walk' to Helmsley, where followed the 'Cleveland Way' again from the other end, taking us around the North Yorkshire Moors, eventually ending back in Scarborough.
In total about 240 miles of very varied terrain. The rolling, pastoral, Wolds were followed by the forests of the Tabular Hills. Then the initial moorland stretch of the Cleveland Way' finishing with a glorious clifftop stretch along the rugged Yorkshire coast
This took us three weeks of generally easy walking, although some stretches were reasonably testing without being rugged. Accommodation was generally reasonably priced, but definitely NOT Camino de Santiago prices. It was reasonably easy to find, but ingenuity was needed in places.
I created a blog of the journey and have all the details of the route, including where we stayed, if anyone is interested.
We would both happily walk this delightful route again, and probably will.
Yes, I would love to read your blog about this journey. Thank you in advance.Another "Not a pilgrimage" route, but one we entitled "Our Yorkshire Camino" when we walked it in May 2018 having previously walked the Frances (twice) and the Portuguese from Lisbon in previous years.
This route is a combination of 'The Wolds Way' followed by a short section of the 'Cleveland Way', to just north of Scarborough. From there along the 'Tabular Hills Walk' to Helmsley, where followed the 'Cleveland Way' again from the other end, taking us around the North Yorkshire Moors, eventually ending back in Scarborough.
In total about 240 miles of very varied terrain. The rolling, pastoral, Wolds were followed by the forests of the Tabular Hills. Then the initial moorland stretch of the Cleveland Way' finishing with a glorious clifftop stretch along the rugged Yorkshire coast
This took us three weeks of generally easy walking, although some stretches were reasonably testing without being rugged. Accommodation was generally reasonably priced, but definitely NOT Camino de Santiago prices. It was reasonably easy to find, but ingenuity was needed in places.
I created a blog of the journey and have all the details of the route, including where we stayed, if anyone is interested.
We would both happily walk this delightful route again, and probably will.
Hi. You'll find it HERE , hopefully. I've tagged the link so that it should display in ascending date order, rather than the default 'newest first' order. If you want any more info just let me know.Yes, I would love to read your blog about this journey. Thank you in advance.
I walked the Fife Coastal Path in 9 daysThis year the pesky Schengen visa requirements and my unalterable commitments conspire together to prevent me from walking in Spain. So I have been looking to Britain for solace, and escape from the Schengen Zone for a few weeks.
And I found this:
And oh what a rabbit hole it is! I know this wonderful website will absolutely be no news to many, but I have had my head in the Spanish sand - so have not been paying any attention to pilgrimages in Britain.
So anyone with feet on the ground and some walking experince...
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble? It doesn't have to be one of the ones the BPT lists...anything is fair game at the moment.
Thanks!
...So anyone with feet on the ground and some walking experince...
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble? It doesn't have to be one of the ones the BPT lists...anything is fair game at the moment.
Thanks!
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble?
Me too. ☹PS Sorry to hear we will not see each other this year, sniff-sniff ...
1) Whithorn Way
From S Mungo's Cathedral, Glasgow (also known as S Kentigern), through the major towns of Paisley and Ayr to Whithorn, Galloway. This is about 250 km. Whithorn is said to where the first church was built (by S Aidan, about 400 AD) in what is now Scotland. Nothing remains of that building, but there are remains of a chapel built many many year later. This was a major pilgrimage destination in the middle ages. A short bus trip to Isle of Whithorn will show where the pilgrims came ashore.
The remark about Ireland set off quite a bit of thread drift. Anyone who does not hold a passport of a current EU country - and that may be the majority on this forum - only needs to know that nothing will change for them as far as their 90 days Schengen allowance in Spain is concerned: whether you walk in Ireland or in the UK, the time spent there does not affect your 90 days allowance. And that's not going to change for you non-EU passport holders, come what may this Thursday and beyond.
Has anyone actually walked the trail of "The Old Way"? I understand that the promotors are trying to organise accommodation along the trail, including sleeping at churches. Is there an accommodation list? The BPT website mentions only the possibility of staying at the church in Firle, which I think is the one with the famous rev?
Hi there @Annette london...Also any thoughts on canal walks in the UK?
Hi Loving kindnessHi there @Annette london
Here's another favourite! Have you considered walking from Reading to Oxford along The Thames Path?
Reading
*The mummified hand of St James, Reading Abbey :
*St James Church, Reading : Camino information
*Bayeux Tapistry Replica (19th century), Reading Museum
Pangbourne
*Map of Reading, Wokingham & Pangbourne : OS Map 159
At Pangbourne several major walking trails converge : The Thames Path; The Chiltern Way; E2 European long distance trail; various circular paths; Berkshire circular routes.
* 'Wind in the Willows' author, Kenneth Grahame retired in Pangbourne. Illustrations for the book are said to have been inspired by the Thameside landscape near Pangbourne.
Goring & Streatly
*The Ridgeway and The Thames Path intersect at Goring & Streatly
*YHA Streatly-on-Thames : Accommodation
Wallingford
*Walking the Dame Agatha Christie Trail from Wallingford to Cholsey
*Walking the Ridgeway between Goring and Wallingford,
Abbingdon
*Abingdon Abbey and meadows : History
*Abingdon County Hall Museum : Monk’s Map of the River Thames (16th century)
Iffley
*St Mary’s Church, Iffley lock : English Romanesque architecture
Oxford
…… wonderful places to explore…
Ashmolean Museum
Pitt rivers Museum
Colleges
College choirs : Christ Church College, Magdalen College and New College , sung services every day
Cornmarket Street musicians
Oxford YHA : a big bath with oodles of hot water to soak in at the end of a muddy day…( xtra bathrooms, at the end of the hall, stages one + two)
Happy browsing!
Lovingkindness
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Look up “The Cornish Camino”. Maybe include some camping and it shouldn’t be too expensive.This year the pesky Schengen visa requirements and my unalterable commitments conspire together to prevent me from walking in Spain. So I have been looking to Britain for solace, and escape from the Schengen Zone for a few weeks.
And I found this:
And oh what a rabbit hole it is! I know this wonderful website will absolutely be no news to many, but I have had my head in the Spanish sand - so have not been paying any attention to pilgrimages in Britain.
So anyone with feet on the ground and some walking experince...
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble? It doesn't have to be one of the ones the BPT lists...anything is fair game at the moment.
Thanks!
Similarly, the South Downs way, although a lovely stroll, is surprisingly poorly supported by the way of accommodation on or near the trail. I have no direct experience of the others, although the SW Coastal path is a great walk.
Oh yes, thanks Annette, there is also the ‘London Loop’! I haven’t walked it but it is on my ‘to do’ listAlso walked parts of the Grand Union canal on the London Loop walks
Annette
Thanks DomigeeOh yes, thanks Annette, there is also the ‘London Loop’! I haven’t walked it but it is on my ‘to do’ listNot a pilgrimage as such though...
Look up the London Outer Orbital Path if interested.
I would be interested to know more of the route/accommodation. I plan to walk a couple hundred miles in UK next year.Another "Not a pilgrimage" route, but one we entitled "Our Yorkshire Camino" when we walked it in May 2018 having previously walked the Frances (twice) and the Portuguese from Lisbon in previous years.
This route is a combination of 'The Wolds Way' followed by a short section of the 'Cleveland Way', to just north of Scarborough. From there along the 'Tabular Hills Walk' to Helmsley, where followed the 'Cleveland Way' again from the other end, taking us around the North Yorkshire Moors, eventually ending back in Scarborough.
In total about 240 miles of very varied terrain. The rolling, pastoral, Wolds were followed by the forests of the Tabular Hills. Then the initial moorland stretch of the Cleveland Way' finishing with a glorious clifftop stretch along the rugged Yorkshire coast
This took us three weeks of generally easy walking, although some stretches were reasonably testing without being rugged. Accommodation was generally reasonably priced, but definitely NOT Camino de Santiago prices. It was reasonably easy to find, but ingenuity was needed in places.
I created a blog of the journey and have all the details of the route, including where we stayed, if anyone is interested.
We would both happily walk this delightful route again, and probably will.
... Venerable Bede rest in Durham Cathedral.
Also any thoughts on canal walks in the UK?
In 1990 I was able to walk the South Downs Way from Eastbourne to Winchester staying only in YHA hostels. No longer possible today, as so many of the properties have been sold. And it's the same all over England and Wales. Most pubs & B&Bs are a few miles from the trail, so the best bet would be a taxi to & fro, unless you're willing to camp, which might not be a bad option during the summer months.As mentioned before, the main issues with pilgrimages in Britain is the accomodation. Salisbury to Canterbury either by the North Downs Way or the South Downs Way is possible by hostel or camping. There has also been a growth in pub chains offering affordable accomodation.
View all YHA accommodation in England & Wales | YHA
Discover all YHA accommodation across the length and breadth of England & Wales. Choose from urban & rural locations. Book direct with YHA for the best price.www.yha.org.uk
The South Down Way is a lesser travelled one as it is further away from the larger towns but you may be scrambling for accomodation.
Old Way - The British Pilgrimage Trust
The British Pilgrimage Trust is working to develop one of Britain’s great rediscovered pilgrimage routes: the Old Way, a 240 mile journey from Southampton to Canterbury. An Ancient Route Like the Camino de Santiago de Compostela in Spain, this pilgrimage path was almost forgotten – but the BPT...britishpilgrimage.org
The BPT are promoting the "Old Way" for which accommodation should be easier, as it passes the coastal towns.
This year the pesky Schengen visa requirements and my unalterable commitments conspire together to prevent me from walking in Spain. So I have been looking to Britain for solace, and escape from the Schengen Zone for a few weeks.
And I found this:
And oh what a rabbit hole it is! I know this wonderful website will absolutely be no news to many, but I have had my head in the Spanish sand - so have not been paying any attention to pilgrimages in Britain.
So anyone with feet on the ground and some walking experince...
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble? It doesn't have to be one of the ones the BPT lists...anything is fair game at the moment.
Thanks!
Seriously.My but this OP has generated a bonanza of replies.
Well, this is awkward.So, why not mock-up a camino pub crawl, visit some historic buildings (and I'm still talking about Wetherspoons here) and get a taste of the international by sampling world beers alongside a good, affordable meal? You might even find a bed for the night.
This could be just right!This year the pesky Schengen visa requirements and my unalterable commitments conspire together to prevent me from walking in Spain. So I have been looking to Britain for solace, and escape from the Schengen Zone for a few weeks.
And I found this:
And oh what a rabbit hole it is! I know this wonderful website will absolutely be no news to many, but I have had my head in the Spanish sand - so have not been paying any attention to pilgrimages in Britain.
So anyone with feet on the ground and some walking experince...
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble? It doesn't have to be one of the ones the BPT lists...anything is fair game at the moment.
Thanks!
Seriously.
I think I will have to do a poll, but it'll take a wee bit of time before I can get to it.
I'm very much enjoying everyone's posts...a few definitely stand out, as I digest what you're posting...
Well, this is awkward.
Great idea, @Dominum Philippum...but I took on some vows and one of them is that I don't drink alcohol.
But someone else might take to this like a duck to water, so thank you!
I obviously have huge and wonderful choice.But good luck finding your next walk.
The Confraternity of St. James in London might be able to help. I thought there was a pilgrimage route in Scotland which had been restored as well.This year the pesky Schengen visa requirements and my unalterable commitments conspire together to prevent me from walking in Spain. So I have been looking to Britain for solace, and escape from the Schengen Zone for a few weeks.
And I found this:
And oh what a rabbit hole it is! I know this wonderful website will absolutely be no news to many, but I have had my head in the Spanish sand - so have not been paying any attention to pilgrimages in Britain.
So anyone with feet on the ground and some walking experince...
Please can you give me a recommendation for your favourite week/10 day/2 week amble? It doesn't have to be one of the ones the BPT lists...anything is fair game at the moment.
Thanks!
The St Michael's Way is only a short walk but a very enjoyable one, and it is now officially counted towards your 100km for a Compostela which is useful if you are subsequently doing the Ingles.I am surprised that the only UK pilgrimage that counts towards a Compostela has not been mentioned. It includes Durham Cathedral and is accepted in Santiago towards a Compostela as part of the Ingles.
I live right next to the south downs way and the last time I looked most of the accommodation was not close to the path.I'm not sure when you walked it, but I walked the South Downs Way in July this year (wrote a book on my experience) and I would say that it is very well supported with accommodation, right on the trail. Many B&B's, a few hostels, and lots of camping opportunities.
The Cotswold Way is a fabulous pilgrimage to walk (although expensive).
I am surprised that the only UK pilgrimage that counts towards a Compostela has not been mentioned. It includes Durham Cathedral and is accepted in Santiago towards a Compostela as part of the Ingles.
Hi. You'll find it HERE , hopefully. I've tagged the link so that it should display in ascending date order, rather than the default 'newest first' order. If you want any more info just let me know.
I found a pub or cafe for lunch and dinner every day, but there were typically only one or two more that I walked past on most days, and just where I stopped for lunch on one day. Bigger towns had a couple of pubs and cafes, other places there was really only the pub.O way home seriously considering st Augustine camino but need a break every 3 miles. Did you find many cafes en route or pubs? Do you recommend any places to stay. Did you need to use taxis to get to your accommodation .
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