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2019 C. Portuguese (inland).
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I need to find some small measure of peace.I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
Oh. Perfect.at-onement
I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
You are not alone, and you got this - walk on and make apologies where needed.I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
HI lexco,The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
While my wife and I walked the camino for two reasons -- to get to know each other better in our new lives as empty nesters and to give thanks for all the blessings we had received -- one of the first fellow walkers we came to know well throughout our walk divulged her secret one morning well along the camino when we were having coffee. She was from a northern European country, was a fraternal twin of her brother in a family with a severely abusive father, escaped as a teen, went to Switzerland and was a prostitute for years. She made enough money to return to her country and open a shop. She eventually married and has four children. She was walking the camino to atone for the abandonment of her brother who eventually committed suicide. Despite having a good life now, she could not rid herself of the guilt she felt. She like us, carried a stone to leave at Cruz Ferro. That wasn't enough for her. After praying at the cathedral in Santiago, we walked on to Finisterre, where she burned the black outfit she had worn every day on the camino. We could see her heavy burden go up to the sky. She was ready to return. She had atoned.I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
Personally for me it's about time with myself, meditating whilst walking. Making life changing decisions and yes atonement to some extent. It's a voyage of discovery both mentally, spiritually and physically.I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
Indeed, it is pilgrim...I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
You're not alone - not by a long wayI guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
In a religious or purely spiritual context, walking a Camino can indeed amount to atonement. This is an important historical element of the Camino. Of course, reparation for a wrong is also an extremely important element of atonement in our everyday lives. I would say that Lexocos is on the right track in setting out on a Camino. Reparation, if possible, may be for another day. Tom
For me, it's a long walk. Period.I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
Grace. Yes. Thank You Rebekah."Atonement" and "penance" are very unfashionable. A lot of high-minded people seem to feel they're neurosis symptoms, weird, icky "private religious matters" best kept to yourself.
I have been comtemplating the question of pilgrimage and penance for a while now, and I gotta say the camino is chock full of suffering, cries of anguish, death, getting lost, soul-searching, guilt, losing your pride, and repenting (another appalling concept!). Walking hundreds of kilometers tends to make you hurt. Pain and suffering and frustration bring you to the end of yourself, where you realize you're not in control at all and you throw yourself on to grace...
And grace (aka "un-merited favor") swoops in and catches you. You survive, you thrive, and you stop obsessing about your Self and start considering the suffering of others around you.
People like to call it "camino magic," or "the Camino provides," or other fairy-dust kinds of Ideals. But Grace is all over the place, all the time. It's not a Camino phenomenon, but a whole lot of people only step away from the controls while they're on the Way, so that Grace becomes attached to the place where you feel it most clearly.
Lots of "regular folks" look at pilgrims and wonder why the heck perfectly sane, healthy people willingly subject themselves to this medieval masochism, over and over. IMHO, it's the grace, the fellowship, and the clarity you find on the other side of suffering... stuff that happens so clearly on the camino, and is harder to feel at home where the whole world is geared to convenience, comfort, and stopping all pain before it happens.
I get what you mean by that. Antonment as in seeking forgiveness, not just from God but from yourself. It’s a coming to terms with what you carry. I think the Camino will have that for you, if that’s where you want to go. I hope that I can find that point before/during/after the Camino as well.I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
"...a forward looking search for meaning..." I very much like how that is phrased. Always been seeking "meaning," but I'm walking in October for the first time on a forward looking search, I guess.@Lexico, I can't say I am with you on this, although there may be others that are. I don't see the journey as penance as much as it is a time to reflect on what my life might mean. I see it as a forward looking search for meaning, perhaps one that is spiritually enlightening, perhaps a little reflective but not specifically so.
Thank you for starting this thread, @Lexicos. Thanks everyone who has written on this thread. I'll be walking my first Camino in October 2022. I've got a lot on my mind, a lot I hope to let go of. (At the same time, I want to check my expectations... not an easy thing for me... and trust that something powerful and true - whatever it is - will transpire.)I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
It most likely will, as it does for most people. You can’t do something so out of the ordinary without getting something from it, and most often, something special that stays with you for a long time. Nonetheless go to it with an open mind and modest expectations.Thank you for starting this thread, @Lexicos. Thanks everyone who has written on this thread. I'll be walking my first Camino in October 2022. I've got a lot on my mind, a lot I hope to let go of. (At the same time, I want to check my expectations... not an easy thing for me... and trust that something powerful and true - whatever it is - will transpire.)
You guys sure suck all the enjoyment out of walking the Camino.I guess we’ve all made mistakes in life. I’m sure too that at some point we’ve all hurt someone whom we love very much. Life demands so much from us, ever so much and it’s inevitable that we will make some terrible mistakes along the way, usually in our earlier years, when the world is still a great big mystery.
The Camino, for me, is my way of seeking atonement and forgiveness for my mistakes, and God knows, I have made many and yes, like everyone else, I have caused pain and grief to those whom I love and who love me the most.
I need to find some small measure of peace.
Tell me that I am not alone. Isn’t that one of the big reasons for many of us doing the Camino?
I guess that’s one way of looking at it.You guys sure suck all the enjoyment out of walking the Camino.
We are all different., thank God. And it is perhaps a good thing to be open to the ideas of other people, even if we are not in tune with them.You guys sure suck all the enjoyment out of walking the Camino.
How can someone else's sincere inner inquiry suck the joy out of your camino? It's nothing to do with you. If your joy is that fragile, you might consider some inner work of your own.You guys sure suck all the enjoyment out of walking the Camino.
Well Said."Atonement" and "penance" are very unfashionable. A lot of high-minded people seem to feel they're neurosis symptoms, weird, icky "private religious matters" best kept to yourself.
I have been comtemplating the question of pilgrimage and penance for a while now, and I gotta say the camino is chock full of suffering, cries of anguish, death, getting lost, soul-searching, guilt, losing your pride, and repenting (another appalling concept!). Walking hundreds of kilometers tends to make you hurt. Pain and suffering and frustration bring you to the end of yourself, where you realize you're not in control at all and you throw yourself on to grace...
And grace (aka "un-merited favor") swoops in and catches you. You survive, you thrive, and you stop obsessing about your Self and start considering the suffering of others around you.
People like to call it "camino magic," or "the Camino provides," or other fairy-dust kinds of Ideals. But Grace is all over the place, all the time. It's not a Camino phenomenon, but a whole lot of people only step away from the controls while they're on the Way, so that Grace becomes attached to the place where you feel it most clearly.
Lots of "regular folks" look at pilgrims and wonder why the heck perfectly sane, healthy people willingly subject themselves to this medieval masochism, over and over. IMHO, it's the grace, the fellowship, and the clarity you find on the other side of suffering... stuff that happens so clearly on the camino, and is harder to feel at home where the whole world is geared to convenience, comfort, and stopping all pain before it happens.
Breaks your heart doesn’t it.It can be Lexicos. Years ago I had a conversation with a pilgrim and it eventually became clear to me that atonement was his fundamental reason for walking. He had killed a young 'enemy' soldier in a war decades earlier.
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