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... Even if it was at 7 am i think it would be worth it as pilgrims arrive in santiago in such a different space from tourists and we have spent weeks walking to that one place. Wouldn't it be good to honour that and give us some time to ourselves in the cathedral?
Me too. A lovely church with a very peaceful feel.There is a quiet Franciscan church near the Parador, actually next to the Parador. In 2014, the parish handed out a Compostela like credential to all Pilgrim Office credential holders. The Fransicans were celebrating the 800TH year of St. Francis's Santiago pilgrimage. I was lucky to receive the document.
Thanks for all the replies. I'm on the inglaise now so I will organise my arrival in santiago so that I can get to the cathedral at 7am and then on to the other churches. XI went to la catedral several mornings while we were in Santiago. Not as early as 7:00, but before 9:00. I attended some masses in side chapels that were in foreign languages, but then again so is the the pilgrims mass. It gave me the quiet time that I needed, and allowed me to watch with patience the amazement of the attendees at the pilgrims mass. It can be disruptive during the pilgrims mass, even by other pilgrims, they just get lost in the moment.
... so that I can get to the cathedral at 7am and then on to the other churches. X
Having just completed the camino Portuguese, on the day that I got there I just wanted to sit and cry in the cathedral and have a quiet time to reflect on my journey. Instead I was surrounded by crowds of tourists talking and taking photos and a security man trying to keep them quiet by talking into a microphone.
I wondered if it would be an idea to reserve an hour a day just for pilgrims to be in the cathedral. Even if it was at 7 am i think it would be worth it as pilgrims arrive in santiago in such a different space from tourists and we have spent weeks walking to that one place. Wouldn't it be good to honour that and give us some time to ourselves in the cathedral?
Me too, a beautiful Compostela to go with the original one, very good memories.There is a quiet Franciscan church near the Parador, actually next to the Parador. In 2014, the parish handed out a Compostela like credential to all Pilgrim Office credential holders. The Fransicans were celebrating the 800TH year of St. Francis's Santiago pilgrimage. I was lucky to receive the document.
The pilgrim expressed an idea mate why bring your sense of inclusion into it when there was obviously no intention.I wonder whether you would distinguish between walking/cycling/equestrian pilgrims who have undertaken their journey to the cathedral and the many more who have chosen, for whatever reason, to travel by other means? Surely they are entitled to the same opportunity to visit the site of Santiago's tomb and have a similar opportunity for quiet contemplation.
Why wouldn't you want to include all pilgrims? It strikes me as being rather elitist not to do that. So I think that, were the cathedral authorities to establish a sightseer-free time for prayer, meditation and reflection, anyone wishing to visit for those purposes should be allowed in. I would expect parishioners of the cathedral would get similar treatment.The pilgrim expressed an idea mate why bring your sense of inclusion into it when there was obviously no intention.
I don't think there was any intention of excluding any particular group Doug but agree that there are many places to reflect on ones journey and I found the smaller churches ideal, cheers mateWhy wouldn't you want to include all pilgrims? It strikes me as being rather elitist not to do that. So I think that, were the cathedral authorities to establish a sightseer-free time for prayer, meditation and reflection, anyone wishing to visit for those purposes should be allowed in. I would expect parishioners of the cathedral would get similar treatment.
Having just completed the camino Portuguese, on the day that I got there I just wanted to sit and cry in the cathedral and have a quiet time to reflect on my journey. Instead I was surrounded by crowds of tourists talking and taking photos and a security man trying to keep them quiet by talking into a microphone.
I wondered if it would be an idea to reserve an hour a day just for pilgrims to be in the cathedral. Even if it was at 7 am i think it would be worth it as pilgrims arrive in santiago in such a different space from tourists and we have spent weeks walking to that one place. Wouldn't it be good to honour that and give us some time to ourselves in the cathedral?
Perhaps you are right. It might have been an unfortunate turn of phrase in @Nosila's post that made me think the proposal was for walking pilgrims.I don't think there was any intention of excluding any particular group Doug but agree that there are many places to reflect on ones journey and I found the smaller churches ideal, cheers mate
I think the original poster's intention is more about finding peace within the walls of this holy church. When I finished my first pilgrimage and came to the church I felt real joy seeing "our" church. I mean this in the most humble and generous way. I am not Catholic, in fact I believe in no religion at all, but I have such a strong bond to this Cathedral and all the pilgrims who enter it. But that first day in Santiago I was completely overcome by the number of the tourists that I was surrounded by. I did find peace that day in the cathedral as it was relatively quiet. So I think what many would like is that all that enter the cathedral respect what the Cathedral represents to so many not just pilgrims. But I know this may not be possible. So 7:00AM meditation is a small price to pay.Perhaps you are right. It might have been an unfortunate turn of phrase in @Nosila's post that made me think the proposal was for walking pilgrims.
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