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Daughter, her Dog and walking the CF

Keith H

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Hello all,

I need a little bit of advice. My daughter has been studying in Barcelona throughout Covid and has had her share of ups and downs throughout. Her miniature dachshund puppy Steve has been the thing that has kept her sane.

She is now coming up on her summer break and due to the wonderful bureaucracy of Spain she has to stay. She and I have talked about the Camino many times and she has said she would like to walk with me when I can get there. I had a thought that it would do her a world of good to walk it this summer while she has time. The trick is she will need to bring Steve along. He’s tiny so she will have to carry him some of the time etc and she’ll have the extra burden of carrying food for him. I think she can handle all of that.

My main question is is it feasible to walk with a dog in regard to staying in Albergues? And is there a spot on the CF that she should start from? I think walking from SJPdP could be a bit much as she would likely be carrying Steve most of the way up 😂.

Thanks!
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It will be difficult. There are few places where a dog would be welcome. Albergues, generally, no. Best place to start? As close to SdC as possible.

You might take a look at Asociación APACA a charity which supports companion animals on the Camino Frances route. Should your daughter persist in this venture she could get a ‘Perrogrino’ credencial for Steve. Henry the (actual) dog has one.

Perhaps you might join me in making a donation?

I have walked with peregrinos with dogs a couple of times. They didn’t find it easy. Attitudes are changing but Spain is a long way away from France, and light years away from England in acceptance of companion dogs. There are pubs near me where, if you haven’t got a dog, someone would lend you one. There are not many places in Spain where you could take your dog inside.

Without wishing to appear unsympathetic, I’d leave Steve at home.
 

Keith H

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Unfortunately leaving Steve at home isn’t an option as she lives alone so he’d have to come along. I haven’t broached the subject with her yet as I wanted to check feasibility. I’ll look up the APACA. Thanks for your insights. I appreciate it.
 

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Unfortunately leaving Steve at home isn’t an option as she lives alone so he’d have to come along. I haven’t broached the subject with her yet as I wanted to check feasibility. I’ll look up the APACA. Thanks for your insights. I appreciate it.
Does she have a friend that would look after her dog while she's away?
 
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Of the dog people with whom I have spoken on the Camino, all but one stayed in private accommodation-- IIRC APACA (mentioned above) has a list of accommodation which will accept animals. The exception was a Slovenian dog, who stayed in a tent with his mistress (well, woman master-- I'm not au fait on the latest terminology) on the del Norte.

While I am on the leave-the-dog-at-home ship, there are extenuating circumstances justifying exceptions. The above advice to choose a shorter stretch would be useful, and you will find advice in other threads on paw care, but AFAIK I do not know of any albergues which would accept dogs. There are hostales etc which will. Unless the dog uses a particular food and is particular about it, there would be places every few days which would carry dogfood in the mercado, or a butcher will quite likely happily sell you scraps. A lightweight bowl for water might also be handy.
 
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I can't imagine a miniature dachshund walking the camino - too arduous - but I have seen dogs in baby carriers or even baby strollers. Worth considering.
 

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What about this. You see a lot of older dogs in trailers these days and the dogs seem fine with it.

If you want to see these trailers in action check out Efrem Gonzalez blog when he did the Via Francigena. He even has a video comparison.

 

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Of the dog people with whom I have spoken on the Camino, all but one stayed in private accommodation-- IIRC APACA (mentioned above) has a list of accommodation which will accept animals. The exception was a Slovenian dog, who stayed in a tent with his mistress (well, woman master-- I'm not au fait on the latest terminology) on the del Norte.

While I am on the leave-the-dog-at-home ship, there are extenuating circumstances justifying exceptions. The above advice to choose a shorter stretch would be useful, and you will find advice in other threads on paw care, but AFAIK I do not know of any albergues which would accept dogs. There are hostales etc which will. Unless the dog uses a particular food and is particular about it, there would be places every few days which would carry dogfood in the mercado, or a butcher will quite likely happily sell you scraps. A lightweight bowl for water might also be handy.
On our last Camino we met some Spanish women walking with 2 dogs. They were walking from Sarria and had accommodation booked for each night before they left. We stayed in the same albergue in Portomarin.
 

henrythedog

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Of the dog people with whom I have spoken on the Camino, all but one stayed in private accommodation-- IIRC APACA (mentioned above) has a list of accommodation which will accept animals. The exception was a Slovenian dog, who stayed in a tent with his mistress (well, woman master-- I'm not au fait on the latest terminology) on the del Norte.

While I am on the leave-the-dog-at-home ship, there are extenuating circumstances justifying exceptions. The above advice to choose a shorter stretch would be useful, and you will find advice in other threads on paw care, but AFAIK I do not know of any albergues which would accept dogs. There are hostales etc which will. Unless the dog uses a particular food and is particular about it, there would be places every few days which would carry dogfood in the mercado, or a butcher will quite likely happily sell you scraps. A lightweight bowl for water might also be handy.
Dog-friendly accommodation on the CF as follows. Post COVID, who knows?
 
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Hello all,

I need a little bit of advice. My daughter has been studying in Barcelona throughout Covid and has had her share of ups and downs throughout. Her miniature dachshund puppy Steve has been the thing that has kept her sane.

She is now coming up on her summer break and due to the wonderful bureaucracy of Spain she has to stay. She and I have talked about the Camino many times and she has said she would like to walk with me when I can get there. I had a thought that it would do her a world of good to walk it this summer while she has time. The trick is she will need to bring Steve along. He’s tiny so she will have to carry him some of the time etc and she’ll have the extra burden of carrying food for him. I think she can handle all of that.

My main question is is it feasible to walk with a dog in regard to staying in Albergues? And is there a spot on the CF that she should start from? I think walking from SJPdP could be a bit much as she would likely be carrying Steve most of the way up 😂.

Thanks!
Keith
Hi. You have some good replies already, not that I imply mine is good! The saddest moment from some years ago in Zabaldika was to see a young French woman return after a few days, having found it too difficult to be welcomed with her dog. The suggestion that looks most promising to me is the one that involves the buggy for pooches. This morning I saw one. The pooch was a very comfortable looking giant of a fluffy white creature, looking out at me with eyes saying: hey! Why bother! Get a boss like mine!
 
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Something to also consider is the age of the dog (apart altogether from the fact that the breed is small).... Over walking a puppy can damage their joints. It would be best to research this properly, from my (vague) memory of my pup, i think short 10 minutes walks were initially advised building up to 20 or 30 minutes. I think the issue is that puppies need to gradually build up their muscle tone which supports their bones. So no major hikes until a little older!
If your daughter can carry the dog (in a bag or on a troller) that might address this issue... Though i can't say how feasible that is for her on Camino.

Perhaps a short Camino with really short stages could be a a possibility, i have never walked with a dog though so can't really advise on that.
 

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Just to add... I have a lovely dog back pack which i bought from the US, it works really except for the fact that it gets really hot! (and that's in not hot Ireland).... I didnt factor in how warm carrying 5kg of furry dog would get!!! So a dog backpack (or any bag close to body) in the summer in Spain might not be the best for either dog or human!
 

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My daughter has a miniature dachshund, but I don't reckon it could walk a camino distance every day, it seems to need carried quite a bit. Having said that, your daughters dog is a puppy, so maybe the young dude is up for it.

Either way, best to factor in shorter days and maybe more carrying than expected. Even a small dog begins to feel heavy after a little while.

I like the idea of the doggy trailer as I see more and more of them (in the UK)

Best of luck with whatever decision you come to.

BTW - Whilst I like dogs, I do not like sleeping in accommodation where one was staying there before me.
 

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Tough decision can be difficult to make sometimes, putting things above our self it’s even more important, so with due respect find something that your daughter also loves and leave the dog home PLEASE, we all love our fur babies but it’s no place for a dog in the Camino, you will have your hands full already
 
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Mate I have two small Moodles, I love dogs more than i Ike most humans but I would never even contemplate taking my boys on a Camino out of respect to my fellow pilgrims and the poor pooches themselves… kennel the puppy on the bright side he will learn and appreciate to interact with other dogs
 

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Hello all,

I need a little bit of advice. My daughter has been studying in Barcelona throughout Covid and has had her share of ups and downs throughout. Her miniature dachshund puppy Steve has been the thing that has kept her sane.

She is now coming up on her summer break and due to the wonderful bureaucracy of Spain she has to stay. She and I have talked about the Camino many times and she has said she would like to walk with me when I can get there. I had a thought that it would do her a world of good to walk it this summer while she has time. The trick is she will need to bring Steve along. He’s tiny so she will have to carry him some of the time etc and she’ll have the extra burden of carrying food for him. I think she can handle all of that.

My main question is is it feasible to walk with a dog in regard to staying in Albergues? And is there a spot on the CF that she should start from? I think walking from SJPdP could be a bit much as she would likely be carrying Steve most of the way up 😂.

Thanks!
Keith
Keith there is a lady, Samantha Wilson, that has been posting her journey on the Camino with her furry companion Williams. Look her out on the American Pilgrims on the Camino page. She may be able to share some helpful information with you. Good luck and Buen Camino!
 

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I’m so impressed with the kindness and civility expressed so far. When I walked in 2019 I met a very young couple that rescued a puppy from being euthanized while they were out one evening while walking the camino. I was impressed with several things. 1. That this young couple was able to walk as well as provide great care for the puppy day to day. 2. I was impressed that the puppy was able to walk each step of the way. 3. The young couple had to hustle each day to find accommodation but..they always were able to find a place that would take them. 4. They became celebrities among peregrinos! We were all pulling for the 3 of them. Several made financial contributions to the couple to support their caminos. 5. The rude, preachy comments came their way each day but the young couple was able to keep things in perspective. I haven’t thought about this couple since the Camino so I’m grateful for the opportunity today to enjoy a Camino moment!
 

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I would think that it would be easier to walk with a dog (but still not easy) as a couple, since they could take turns looking after the dog while showering and other activities.
 
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Hello all,

I need a little bit of advice. My daughter has been studying in Barcelona throughout Covid and has had her share of ups and downs throughout. Her miniature dachshund puppy Steve has been the thing that has kept her sane.

She is now coming up on her summer break and due to the wonderful bureaucracy of Spain she has to stay. She and I have talked about the Camino many times and she has said she would like to walk with me when I can get there. I had a thought that it would do her a world of good to walk it this summer while she has time. The trick is she will need to bring Steve along. He’s tiny so she will have to carry him some of the time etc and she’ll have the extra burden of carrying food for him. I think she can handle all of that.

My main question is is it feasible to walk with a dog in regard to staying in Albergues? And is there a spot on the CF that she should start from? I think walking from SJPdP could be a bit much as she would likely be carrying Steve most of the way up 😂.

Thanks!
Keith
Just my opinion but definitely starting at Roncesvalles the most sense. Not so sure about Albergues and dogs even if they are cute. I would suggest doing some internet work and locate pensions and private accommodations.
 

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Keith there is a lady, Samantha Wilson, that has been posting her journey on the Camino with her furry companion Williams. Look her out on the American Pilgrims on the Camino page. She may be able to share some helpful information with you. Good luck and Buen Camino!
Thank you! I‘ll take a look out of curiosity at the least.
 

Keith H

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I’m so impressed with the kindness and civility expressed so far. When I walked in 2019 I met a very young couple that rescued a puppy from being euthanized while they were out one evening while walking the camino. I was impressed with several things. 1. That this young couple was able to walk as well as provide great care for the puppy day to day. 2. I was impressed that the puppy was able to walk each step of the way. 3. The young couple had to hustle each day to find accommodation but..they always were able to find a place that would take them. 4. They became celebrities among peregrinos! We were all pulling for the 3 of them. Several made financial contributions to the couple to support their caminos. 5. The rude, preachy comments came their way each day but the young couple was able to keep things in perspective. I haven’t thought about this couple since the Camino so I’m grateful for the opportunity today to enjoy a Camino moment!
What a lovely story. Thanks for sharing it!
 
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Mate I have two small Moodles, I love dogs more than i Ike most humans but I would never even contemplate taking my boys on a Camino out of respect to my fellow pilgrims and the poor pooches themselves… kennel the puppy on the bright side he will learn and appreciate to interact with other dogs
Thanks Mick. I enjoyed your podcasts with Dan btw. Nice work on your camino.
 

Keith H

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Thank you all for your replies. I didn’t think it would be easy and you all have definitely indicated it wouldn’t be. Since the idea would be for her to be able to destress, get out amongst good people and have an enjoyable time after a very tough year I’ll forgo bringing this idea up with her. I will think about using a kennel as he has a daycare that he goes to twice a week and really enjoys. Maybe we can sort out accomodation with them for a couple weeks so she can do a section.

Thank you all again. I appreciate it. Buen Camino.
 

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I personally believe it will be fantastic for your daughters emotional, mental, physical as well as spiritual well-being to walk the Camino.

To start at SJPDP might be ambitious, but if time allows, your daughter is likely to have a have phenomenal experience.

As you possibly know, there are many different Caminos heading to Santiago, the most commonly walk one being and the Camino Frances, though not all who walk the France start at SJPDP.

Much will depend upon where your daughter intends to start, which in part is going to be influenced by how much spare time your daughter has so as to do the walk. As for the puppy... my own view is that the canine might be a burden, while it might also allow for another experience altogether.

I’m intending to DM you directly
 

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I saw a flyer on the camino, it was about a couple who filmed their walk with their pug. I think it was called " 2 guys and their pug" i bet you could find it on line somewhere! It looked like they had a good time...the pug was in a stroller. I also met a polish guy who picked up a spanish stray dog and adopted it. He said accomodations were really hard to find so he had to camp alot.
 

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Just in case, like a "kind of idea" (I know we're strangers, but...) we live very near from Barcelona. And, just if she needs it, we'll be pleased to have him while she's walking. No problem at all. My beloved dog passed away three years ago and I'm sure I won't have a dog again. But I use to pet them for son and friends when they travel....just because I love dogs.
Just think about it. Maybe the idea suits

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Would the dog enjoy to be carried most of the day and day after day for weeks?

Planning a Camino with you dog means that you have to put the well being of the dog first.
If your daughter and her dog are used to making day hikes together, that is a starting point.
If they haven't done that, perhaps they should start to find out how well it works for both of them.

For a tiny dog that is used to taking tiny walks each day, a lengthy camino is a huge change that is not to be taken lightly.

Years ago I started planning a campertrip with my two shepherd-like dogs. They loved the camper van, but after a few days, they missed their garden, a place to do nothing and just be a dog.
 

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I personally believe it will be fantastic for your daughters emotional, mental, physical as well as spiritual well-being to walk the Camino.

To start at SJPDP might be ambitious, but if time allows, your daughter is likely to have a have phenomenal experience.

As you possibly know, there are many different Caminos heading to Santiago, the most commonly walk one being and the Camino Frances, though not all who walk the France start at SJPDP.

Much will depend upon where your daughter intends to start, which in part is going to be influenced by how much spare time your daughter has so as to do the walk. As for the puppy... my own view is that the canine might be a burden, while it might also allow for another experience altogether.

I’m intending to DM you directly
I think it would be absolutely fantastic for her as well. I would go with her if I could. I’m trying to figure out a plan if I can get vaccinated completely by July. Thanks!
 

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Just in case, like a "kind of idea" (I know we're strangers, but...) we live very near from Barcelona. And, just if she needs it, we'll be pleased to have him while she's walking. No problem at all. My beloved dog passed away three years ago and I'm sure I won't have a dog again. But I use to pet them for son and friends when they travel....just because I love dogs.
Just think about it. Maybe the idea suits

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Thanks Kiernan! That is a great offer. Let me see what I can put together around her wanting to go. Perhaps she can convince one of her Spanish classmates to go along.
 
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Just to clarify a tiny bit, my daughter taking her dog wasn’t because she would prefer to do it that way. More the necesssity that she has no one to look after her dog during the time. The ideas in here have been very helpful and darn generous as well. I’ll have a chat with her about it now that there are some options to discuss with her. I think it would do her a world of good in many many ways.

Thank you all so much. As a parent far away from his daughter it’s very tough to not be able to help her out directly.
 

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A pushchair or trailer would work - as a pup Dachsie might not want to walk all the way especially when it is hot... Then she or you and she(!) could take a light tent so if an albergue won't take you - you can sleep outside (take turns..?!) Some albergues do allow dogs some not. Sometimes there is an outhouse or shed - so that might work sometimes....
I have cycle-toured and done a UK pilgrimage with my 5 stone lurcher/collie (now sadly deceased...) but I took my husband and a large trailer - which kept them both to heel...! 😁 It is important to carry enough water and to check their paws twice daily for any wear or prickles etc.... and remember that they cannot sweat - so need to cool down - out of sun /river/taps etc....
it is more to be responsible for but wonderful to travel with them.... - except people take lots of photos of you!!
If you want to read about the pitfalls - 'Oaky's Grand Tour' is on Amazon still.....!
The alternative is to join something like TrustedHousesitters - someone will come and stay in your home and look after your dog and home for you - for free! (PM me if you consider this and I can give you a 20% off code - as I am a member!)
That would leave your daughter free to concentrate on the walk - rather than the dog's well-being...
whatever she chooses - good luck!
 

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