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Twist tie to gather the poncho between the legs so it's doesn't fly away ... cool idea! Thanks!For cold weather I’m microfleece and a smart wool long sleeve 1/4 zip turtleneck. I like layers over 1 single item. I also have a twist tie that gathers the poncho between my legs and keeps it from blowing away. Worked very well over last 5 walks in the fall. Oh and also a buff.
I'm not sure that I understand the difference between a fleece and a micro-fleece. My own approach is to use a 1/4 zip fleece jumper as part of my layering system. I have bulkier fleece jackets that are designed to zip inside a rain jacket, but even when I have carried that rain jacket on a pilgrimage, I have not taken its matching fleece. It is just too bulky.I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
This sorta thing , one at each corner and then 1 in middle. Otherwise the snaps found on ponchos tend to release in high winds.Twist tie to gather the poncho between the legs so it's doesn't fly away ... cool idea! Thanks!
I think I might now know the difference! Thanks to the OP for describing them in volume, I never thought of that!I'm not sure that I understand the difference between a fleece and a micro-fleece. My own approach is to use a 1/4 zip fleece jumper as part of my layering system. I have bulkier fleece jackets that are designed to zip inside a rain jacket, but even when I have carried that rain jacket on a pilgrimage, I have not taken its matching fleece. It is just too bulky.
I am curious - where is this ubiquitous advice to take a "fleece"?"Light Fleece" as everyone advises.
It was pretty ubiquitous in 2014 when I was setting up for my first, and also featured in guidebooks of that vintage. Actually, I just did a search on "fleece" in this forum, and the term appears, a bazillion times. You might re-read the last paragraph of my response.I am curious - where is this ubiquitous advice to take a "fleece"?
Yes, I know. I am never sure what they mean, although I can guess. And the answer is always "it depends".I just did a search on "fleece" in this forum, and the term appears, a bazillion times.
This piqued my curiosity. My 'light fleece' that I have worn on most of my pilgrimage walks since my first Camino weighs about 260 gm and rolled up in a 'ranger roll', is a bit over 2 li in volume. The heavy fleece that is a liner to one of my rain jackets is 527 gm and rolls up to be about 4.8 li.For my next camino, I bought what I call a heavy fleece. Its not many more grams than the light one, maybe half again, buts its lofted volume is easily 5 litres,
Hi @Vancouver Rose I walked the Frances September 4 - Oct 14 in 2012. I took a micro (100 weight) fleece jacket and I've used it on every camino since, in different seasons. I purchased it at Taiga in Vancouver. It's very light and comfortable under my rain shell. By the 3rd week of September the early mornings / evenings were quite cool and I was grateful for the warm layer as well as a light fleece cap & gloves. I didn't feel that I needed anything heavier that the 100 weight fleece.I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
Thanks again!This sorta thing , one at each corner and then 1 in middle. Otherwise the snaps found on ponchos tend to release in high winds.
Super helpful! Thanks Rick.I think I might now know the difference! Thanks to the OP for describing them in volume, I never thought of that!
[ for the OP:]
For my first Camino, I bought what I thought was a pretty good "Light Fleece" as everyone advises. Its a zip-up hoodie. Walking in April, I froze on a few days, and had to buy a heavy long sleeve extra layer to stave off hypothermia. I still have that fleece, and wear it around town from time to time. I just balled it up, and its lofted volume is about 2-3 litres. Its sweet spot is over a base layer. Works great from about 14-20 C, perfect for summer nights where I live.
For my next camino, I bought what I call a heavy fleece. Its not many more grams than the light one, maybe half again, buts its lofted volume is easily 5 litres, I just checked. Its literally the only article of clothing I have worn every day on every camino. It goes on when I get out the bunk, and comes off when the sun warms up. It goes back on the evenings when I'm sitting outside. Mind, I have only walked April and September, it wouldn't be needed in the summer. Its also my pillow, and where I keep my valuables. It takes up the same space as my down quilt, but does not challenge my 40 litre pack.
All that said, you need to have a solution that gets you down to freezing with some degree of comfort. Many like the down vests, others, like me, prefer the heavy fleece. A light fleece works too, you just need another long sleeve layer to go with it. Dealer's choice. And your rain jacket is not just for rain, its the best outer layer when its quite cold.
Thanks @Theatregal. That’s good context, and I’ll check out Taiga.Hi @Vancouver Rose I walked the Frances September 4 - Oct 14 in 2012. I took a micro (100 weight) fleece jacket and I've used it on every camino since, in different seasons. I purchased it at Taiga in Vancouver. It's very light and comfortable under my rain shell. By the 3rd week of September the early mornings / evenings were quite cool and I was grateful for the warm layer as well as a light fleece cap & gloves. I didn't feel that I needed anything heavier that the 100 weight fleece.
I am wondering about why you twist tie your poncho and how you would do that? I have walked some of my caminos and it seemed my poncho was on half the time with really strong winds. I never had to worry about it blowing away. I am just confused maybe you can explain. ThanksFor cold weather I’m microfleece and a smart wool long sleeve 1/4 zip turtleneck. I like layers over 1 single item. I also have a twist tie that gathers the poncho between my legs and keeps it from blowing away. Worked very well over last 5 walks in the fall. Oh and also a buff.
Do you use an Altus, which really isn't a poncho but a rain cost with room for a backpack, or a regular pinch without sleeves?I am wondering about why you twist tie your poncho and how you would do that? I have walked some of my caminos and it seemed my poncho was on half the time with really strong winds. I never had to worry about it blowing away. I am just confused maybe you can explain. Thanks
I had a merino hoodie that was great for most of my Camino last September. I ended up picking up a light jacket along the way to go over my hoodie for some very chilly mornings/late afternoons. The merino hoodie dried very quickly when it rained (sleeves exposed under my poncho). I did see some people with micro-puffy jackets for evenings, keep in mind that down jackets do not do rain well. Layers are always your best friend, add and remove as you need throughout the day.I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
This particular brand has loops at each corner as well as in the middle. The snaps do not hold well in strong winds so I use a twist tie at the two bottom out side corners but more importantly 1 in the middle so the front panel of the poncho is held to the back panel between the knees. It’s not so much that it will blow off my body but more that it billows open letting in the rain. You may ask why not use an Altus coat style poncho but I find them too clammy.I am wondering about why you twist tie your poncho and how you would do that? I have walked some of my caminos and it seemed my poncho was on half the time with really strong winds. I never had to worry about it blowing away. I am just confused maybe you can explain. Thanks
Ahhhh now it all is clear to me. I use an ALtus poncho and you are right about the clammy and sweat. It does keep me dry. When I take it off to rest and i am in a cold bar I have to change or put something over what I am wearing so I don't get cold. It has happened as I am walking in November and December. ThanksThis particular brand has loops at each corner as well as in the middle. The snaps do not hold well in strong winds so I use a twist tie at the two bottom out side corners but more importantly 1 in the middle so the front panel of the poncho is held to the back panel between the knees. It’s not so much that it will blow off my body but more that it billows open letting in the rain. You may ask why not use an Altus coat style poncho but I find them too clammy.
Yes I do use an Altus. I have been very happy with the one I have. I was thinking of buying a new one when I get to Barcelona this October. It has served me well but it is starting to show signs of wear and tear.
I'm starting Sept 8 as well. I ended up getting a light weight fleece vest, a light weight pull over smart wool long sleeve. I figure I can add my very light weight rain jacket if it gets too cool.I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
Medium weight wool sweater....less weight, warm and cool, dries quickly...coupled with poncho or light rain coat..I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
I would be interested to know how much this sweater weighs.Medium weight wool sweater....less weight, warm and cool, dries quickly...coupled with poncho or light rain coat..
Hi @Vancouver Rose I walked the Frances September 4 - Oct 14 in 2012. I took a micro (100 weight) fleece jacket and I've used it on every camino since, in different seasons. I purchased it at Taiga in Vancouver. It's very light and comfortable under my rain shell. By the 3rd week of September the early mornings / evenings were quite cool and I was grateful for the warm layer as well as a light fleece cap & gloves. I didn't feel that I needed anything heavier that the 100 weight fleece.
Thank you all for the thoughtful info. I'm not very comfortable in wool, but appreciate the reminders about layering!I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
I walked Sept into Oct in 2018. Took a Patagonia Nano puff with hood, which drys quickly and stays warm when wet. Layered with a long sleeve marino shirt, a short sleeve marino and the Nano. Rain jacket can go over it all if necessary. For early morning, glove liners and a buff are a must. Started every morning in October, for about the first hour, wearing the jacket and gloves. Nano is a touch heavier than down but it was what I had and it worked perfectly.I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
Can't pull the wool over your eyes can we......I think we've been fleeced
I am new to the forum and hiking on Camino. What do you mean from a twist tie and how do you use it with the poncho? it maybe a dumb question. ThanksTwist tie to gather the poncho between the legs so it's doesn't fly away ... cool idea! Thanks!
i splurged and bought a Patagonia r1 fleece. Layered under a rain jacket it’s good to go. The problem with many solutions is sweat and the R1 is very breathable. It has no wind stopping capability on its own.I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
Some ponchos have a dual use, in that they can also be pressed into service as a tarp shelter. In order to be used as a tarp, they have little tabs along the outside edges for the purpose of lashing down.I am new to the forum and hiking on Camino. What do you mean from a twist tie and how do you use it with the poncho? it maybe a dumb question. Thanks
I would go with the lighter fleece, and a long-sleeved silk undershirt. Both of them combined take up less room than the thick fleece, and the silk undershirt is quite warm. Maybe a scarf around your neck too. This, along with a rain jacket, worked for me, but I walked in the Spring... which might be cooler than Sept.I'm wondering about the best choice of jacket for walking the Camino Frances (~Sept. 8 - Oct. 20?). A fleece jacket takes up about 5 litres of space, but would be pretty warm and I think, pretty good in the rain coupled with a poncho; while the micro-fleece takes up 1/2 the space, but wouldn't provide the same level of insulation. I'd welcome guidance from those who may have walked at roughly the same time of year, as to what worked, or didn't, for you.
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