Jeff Crawley
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This is only true if there isn't already a location. If Google has already added a location then it can't be changed, even if it is wrong.You can add the location retrospectively
It certainly isn't infallible! I spent one Christmas in the Atlas mountains in Marocco but Google's AI insists I was a few hundred miles east in Algeria!This is only true if there isn't already a location. If Google has already added a location then it can't be changed, even if it is wrong.
This "feature" is scary for some people because Google can use its massive photo base and AI to infer where the photo is taken.
For example, the screen shot below shows a scan of a photo of my Dad taken in the USA on a cheap camera without GPS many years ago.
Without prompting it has located the shot in Arizona. I haven't been there so I don't know if it is correct but it is feasible.
The thought process was probably "That looks like Doug in New Zealand's Grandad! Doug's Grandad lived in West Ham. Betcha that photo was taken in West Ham!"Similar, this scan is of a photo taken in 1918 after my grandparents wedding and Google was able to situate it, correctly, in West Ham, London, England!
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It's not paranoia, they are out to get you! Mind you if you take a look at all of the people you agree to have your information when you click on "agree to all" for cookie settings you'll be appalled - why would a Czech software company be interested in my internet usage? Or one in Poland or the Netherlands?It's going to be a busy (holi)day here in the USA so I will play with this feature sometime later. I do want to add a warning about the creepiness of having GPS data embedded in a jpeg's EXIF information. Not Google related though.
A forum member posted a picture of a place in Pamplona that looked familiar so I looked for the GPS information in the photo. It brought me to a house in a city in California. I got in touch with the member to warn him of this privacy problem. It turned out that, unknown to him, his photo editing software was inserting the GPS coordinates of his home into the EXIF data of the edited image.
so,It's going to be a busy (holi)day here in the USA so I will play with this feature sometime later. I do want to add a warning about the creepiness of having GPS data embedded in a jpeg's EXIF information. Not Google related though.
A forum member posted a picture of a place in Pamplona that looked familiar so I looked for the GPS information in the photo. It brought me to a house in a city in California. I got in touch with the member to warn him of this privacy problem. It turned out that, unknown to him, his photo editing software was inserting the GPS coordinates of his home into the EXIF data of the edited image.
Rick, I will pm you with a couple of photos taken in Pamplona. Let's see what they reveal to your skilled sleuth work!It's going to be a busy (holi)day here in the USA so I will play with this feature sometime later. I do want to add a warning about the creepiness of having GPS data embedded in a jpeg's EXIF information. Not Google related though.
A forum member posted a picture of a place in Pamplona that looked familiar so I looked for the GPS information in the photo. It brought me to a house in a city in California. I got in touch with the member to warn him of this privacy problem. It turned out that, unknown to him, his photo editing software was inserting the GPS coordinates of his home into the EXIF data of the edited image.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the info. Did you walk Ferro to Santiago? I am planning on going in April. Any on the ground advise? Buen Camino, ElinJust had this brought to my notice. If you store your photos on Google Photos and your phone or camera tags the file with the location of the shot you can now view the photo by clicking on a map. Note this only seems to work on tablets and smartphones and not desktops (but see below)
Open Google Photos and click onSearch
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Now click on "Your map"
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and you get this
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those little "heat blobs" are where you took the photos, zoom in and click on an individual spot to jump to the photo.
You'll see there appear to be no photos taken between Pontevedra and SdC on my Portuguese Camino. This is because I had "location" switched off on my smart phone. You can add the location retrospectively. On a desktop computer go to Google Photos and double click on the photo you want to tag:
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click on the circled i (yellow arrow) and the side panel pops out, click on the pencil (red arrow) to add a location (in this case Astorga). You can click on multiple shots to batch change the location.
Hope this is of interest.
I only have time for checking one. Pretty much the only information was the size of photo. You must have used an older camera as the brand of the camera was not even there. Smartphones enter much more data.Rick, I will pm you with a couple of photos taken in Pamplona. Let's see what they reveal to your skilled sleuth work!
The best place to get specific information on the Camino Ingles is in this section of the forum.Hi Jeff, thanks for the info. Did you walk Ferro to Santiago? I am planning on going in April. Any on the ground advise? Buen Camino, Elin
wow! I used my iPhone, but I sent then to my laptop and then posted them to the pm. I am in no rush, just curious. I know I have not adjusted my iPhone settings at all, so maybe everything turned off. Good!I only have time for checking one. Pretty much the only information was the size of photo. You must have used an older camera as the brand of the camera was not even there. Smartphones enter much more data.
I'll say more when I have time.
Google Photos seems to display a very limited sub-set of the EXIF data. The other image display and editing tools I use can display many more EXIF fields. The big advantage of using Google Photos is the tight integration of the Google product sets. If you are logged in to Google, the Google Maps timeline can show images that are geo-tagged and dated from Google Photos.I only have time for checking one. Pretty much the only information was the size of photo. You must have used an older camera as the brand of the camera was not even there. Smartphones enter much more data.
I'll say more when I have time.
I did indeed, back in 2018 just after they changed the route and took out the hill at Hospital de Bruma. I also went off the official route to stay at the Casa rural Costa da Egoa - worth it but not everybody would want to go there.Hi Jeff, thanks for the info. Did you walk Ferro to Santiago? I am planning on going in April. Any on the ground advise? Buen Camino, Elin
We sure do, it means that unlike Apple or Microsoft anyone can access the source code for Android and check for themselves what is and is not being done in any area.but Android is a "free" operating system and we know what that means.
Good points. Very true.We sure do, it means that unlike Apple or Microsoft anyone can access the source code for Android and check for themselves what is and is not being done in any area.
This highly desirable feature helps ensure that Android is one of the most secure operating systems available.
Thanks for reminding us of this important point.
Yap..it's scary and you have an option to turn off the geographic-location if you don't want to..I had no idea Google could do this, regardless of tagging a photos location yourself! I love seeing photos on the map. You can also create a photo album and upload them on a Google map that you create, in an added layer, along with your gps tracks. Your can then see exactly where the photo was taken along the route, with a little circle with the photo in it. Fun, but yes, scary. And people worry about the vaccination microchipping them! Ha ha! Who needs microchips when you have AI?
You can indeed turn off geolocation on your phone but you have missed the point.Yap..it's scary and you have an option to turn off the geographic-location if you don't want to..
Kirkie,This is so informative, thanks to all contributors. If I were to take a photo right now using my ipad, would you be able to locate my address? I won't, but what if? Technical stuff is only grasped by me in the doing, not in the theory. That is why it was such a relief when I no longer had to go to programming classes at the beginning of the modern computer, and Apple made it so easy.
If your iPad is wifi only then it does not have a GPS. If your iPad can accept a SIM card then it has a GPS.This is so informative, thanks to all contributors. If I were to take a photo right now using my ipad, would you be able to locate my address? I won't, but what if? Technical stuff is only grasped by me in the doing, not in the theory. That is why it was such a relief when I no longer had to go to programming classes at the beginning of the modern computer, and Apple made it so easy.
Android is a "free" operating system and we know what that means.If you use an iPhone and the apple Photos app on a MacBook you get a similar map without uploading your pics anywhere. (There may be other combinations that do similar).
The granularity of the map adjusts as you expand it, I mainly use it to find old photos whose date I am unsure.
OTOH my spare phone runs the google Android operating system and can send me a monthly update of all the places I have visited .... I can probably turn some of this off but Android is a "free" operating system and we know what that means.
I find the iPad tech specs confusing on this point. It claims both variants have photo geotagging, but only the Cellular versions have a GPS/GNSS chip. So I assume they are using WiFi or iBeacons to estimate location on the WiFi only models.If your iPad is wifi only then it does not have a GPS. If your iPad can accept a SIM card then it has a GPS.
If your iPad has a GPS then unless you turn off geolocation it will record your GPS coordinates at the moment that you take a photo.
GPS coordinates are not your address but they can easily be converted into an address.
Sure. But if Apple can sell from you as well as to you, that's twice the income. And there is no reason to expect they are turning down available income.Good points. Very true.
But I was thinking of the adage that if a product is free then, in all likelihood, you are the product and someone else is the customer.
This appears to be a screen grab of the image, not the image file itself. From what appears on screen, the EXIF file location record in the image file is null. The clue is the text 'Add a location...', indicating the display software could not display anything, and is offering to let you add something.Testing, testing, testing! This is what I see when I open the information window on a fabulous (!) photo of the marmalade jar in front of me!!! I did not insert my location. Can you find it? If so, keep it quiet, please! At this stage, I am really curious, but not enough to stop me moving on from here. Have a lovely day, folks!
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Edit. No sim card, so I guess it is safe to post this. Thanks, Doughnut NZ.
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