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I am interested to understand why. The weight saving would be insignificant, and the difficulties should you want to do different things on a couple of days would clearly be overwhelming, essentially mitigating against doing that at all. What are the advantages you see in doing this?1) can you do a joint Credencial for a camino?
ie with two people's names (who are clearly walking) on the details page? So we would essentially then only need to carry one .....
Its not for weight saving...I am interested to understand why. The weight saving would be insignificant, and the difficulties should you want to do different things on a couple of days would clearly be overwhelming, essentially mitigating against doing that at all. What are the advantages you see in doing this?
Thanks for your reply but when you say you don't think it's doable...why ? Is there a rule about this ...? Or is that just a view?I don't think that it's doable, but there's nothing stopping you from writing both names on the credential when you are done. I do doubt that you will get a Compostela with both names.
If you plan on framing the credential you should get two and only stamp one side of each to show all the stamps.
Not doable because every pilgrim that wants a Compostela needs a credential. Also public and parochial albergues usually require each person who stays there to have a credential.Thanks for your reply but when you say you don't think it's doable...why ? Is there a rule about this ...? Or is that just a view?
thanks so it’s a rule is it ?For many albergues, each person requesting a bed must have a credential.
For the Compostela, it signifies that the holder was received those sellos while walking. One credential with multiple names just tells the office that one person received the stamps while the other person may or may not have been there. They will not accept it on faith that you were both present for each stamp.
To be clear, ANYONE can walk across Spain without a credential and without seeking a Compostela. If you want to participate in a pilgrimage to the tomb of St James and receive a Catholic Church document, you must follow the rules.
thanks so it’s a rule is it ?
Where can you read them ?
done that thanks previously and haven’t had a reply yet but thanks for the constructive replyI think this question is one that the Pilgrim Office would need to answer. Their email is oficinadelperegrino@catedraldesantiago.es, and I have found they normally respond within a day.
Too expensiveWhy not frame both your and your wife's credentials and Compostelas?
well it’s not actually “simple” otherwise I wouldn’t be asking a simple question about it….and it’s not actually that big a deal in reality is it….?It's simple: one pilgrim, one credencial.
There's nothing to stop you putting as many names as you want on your credencial, but you will only get one compostela with it, should you want one. Same will apply in most muni/ parrochial albergues, one of you can sleep there.
Then what's your question?Don’t recall ever having to show my credential to stay at an albergue….
As I said never had anyone ask to see the Credencial to allow boarding…I think it’s a romantic notion….As a pilgrim, I have always been asked for my credencial at an albergue. Other places might not care, but they do. And as a hospitalero, I always wanted to see each person's credencial. The question never arose about two people claiming to be walking on the one credencial. Like most identity documents, and it is your pilgrim identity document, it is issued to an individual.
As I said I’ve emailed the POPurpose of a credencial
How to get your pilgrim credencial/pilgrim passport for access to pilgrim accommodation along the routes, and to qualify for the Compostela certificate of completion.www.csj.org.uk
Did you check either of the above to see if they can offer the answer you need?
Yep, if you cannot get the answer you want from several experienced pilgrims, one of whom volunteers at the Pilgrim Office and another who has served as a hospitalero, it's worth consulting a complete work of fiction because you can rely on that being entirely and completely accurate in every last detail.Going to watch The Way now & see if I can find my answer
No.Do you see my point?
Uh-huh. You can go to Spain and walk but can't afford a slightly bigger frame.Too expensive
Please do let us know what the PO says when, or if, you get a reply.As I said I’ve emailed the PO
Privately run albergues, casa rurales, and hotels don't require that you present a credencial but will happily stamp it for you. If you stay in albergues that are not only "oriented towards pilgrims" but "exclusively for pilgrims", such as some or all municipal albergues, parochial albergues, albergues run by Camino associations, donativos and similar, then you will have to present your credencial - because, duh, that's what the credencial had been created for in the first place.Don’t recall ever having to show my credential to stay at an albergue….
I’ve deleted my reply as I was wrong.So my 2 questions are .......
1) can you do a joint Credencial for a camino?
ie with two people's names (who are clearly walking) on the details page? So we would essentially then only need to carry one .....
2) how many pages are there for stamps on one side of a Credencial when its opened up ?
I think its 7 but be grateful for confirmation
I should know the answer to the latter question but mine is folded and framed so I can't check.....
Be helpful to know if anyone does?
I think you need to contact the pilgrim office in Santiago and ask them. In the end, it is their decision. Oh, you already have. We'd be very interested in what they say, which is probably that each pilgrim needs their own, personal credencial.Thanks for your reply but when you say you don't think it's doable...why ? Is there a rule about this ...? Or is that just a view?
A credencial is an entirely personal document, so no.1) can you do a joint Credencial for a camino?
ie with two people's names (who are clearly walking) on the details page? So we would essentially then only need to carry one .....
Just curious, where do you see this on the Pilgrim's Office website? When I search for children site:.oficinadelperegrino.com the only relevant result I get is this one which refers to the Compostela and not to the credencial:Actually, dual names ARE allowed on the credential IF one of you is an infant. By your attitude, perhaps that description fits you? This is clearly spelled out on the Pilgrim’s Office site
Nope! One pilgrim one credential. That is the rule. Consider these common scenarios:So my 2 questions are .......
1) can you do a joint Credencial for a camino?
ie with two people's names (who are clearly walking) on the details page? So we would essentially then only need to carry one .....
2) how many pages are there for stamps on one side of a Credencial when its opened up ?
I think its 7 but be grateful for confirmation
I should know the answer to the latter question but mine is folded and framed so I can't check.....
Be helpful to know if anyone does?
As an experienced hospitalero every pilgrim wishing to stay where I am volunteering must provide their credential. No credential, no bed. I volunteer in parochial and municipal donativo (donation only) albergues. Each albergue has rules, some of which are common to the association that coordinates volunteer hospitaleros. Private albergues are also used by people who are not pilgrims but are tourists. In those albergues a credential may not be required. If you have one and want it stamped you can present your credential where you are staying and have it stamped. For the albergues where I volunteer, the credential identifies the bearer as a pilgrim on the Camino de Santiago.So my 2 questions are .......
1) can you do a joint Credencial for a camino?
ie with two people's names (who are clearly walking) on the details page? So we would essentially then only need to carry one .....
2) how many pages are there for stamps on one side of a Credencial when its opened up ?
I think its 7 but be grateful for confirmation
I should know the answer to the latter question but mine is folded and framed so I can't check.....
Be helpful to know if anyone does?
I've been asked many times for my credential when staying at an albergue. I was asked today.Don’t recall ever having to show my credential to stay at an albergue….
Sorry, meant Compostela - exactly what you quoted. Thanks.Just curious, where do you see this on the Pilgrim's Office website? When I search for children site:.oficinadelperegrino.com the only relevant result I get is this one which refers to the Compostela and not to the credencial:
Children who make the pilgrimage with their parents or in groups, and have received the sacrament of Communion, or have the ability to understand the meaning of the spiritual or religious nature of the Way, can receive the “Compostela”. If they are not mature enough due to their young age, they are given a special certificate with their names. In the case of infants or very young children, their names are included on the parent or accompanying adult’s “Compostela”.Of course, this touches on the whole concept of pilgrimage and being mature and the Compostela which, it seems, is not primarily awarded with the aim of it being put on display in a frame at one's home but let's, obviously, not go there.
Okay, let me try again. I can’t tell you if a joint credential is a thing or not; but my concern would be, if for any reason, you got separated from your partner. What if you have to acquire separate lodging? every individual had to have a credential to “check in” to the albergues and hostels I stayed in. And also, if it were me, I’d want my own! Just sayin’.So my 2 questions are .......
1) can you do a joint Credencial for a camino?
ie with two people's names (who are clearly walking) on the details page? So we would essentially then only need to carry one .....
2) how many pages are there for stamps on one side of a Credencial when its opened up ?
I think its 7 but be grateful for confirmation
I should know the answer to the latter question but mine is folded and framed so I can't check.....
Be helpful to know if anyone does?
It is really simple, you just don't like the answer. Rule or custom, your point is that you are "lawyering" up, Use 2 credencials, after getting the Compostela just add the other name to one of them for framing. There is no "rule" about that.Too expensive
well it’s not actually “simple” otherwise I wouldn’t be asking a simple question about it….and it’s not actually that big a deal in reality is it….?
What I’m trying to ascertain is where it is defined as a “rule” or isn’t actually an issue tbh
Do you see my point?
I was resisting commenting but you broke meSmokin’ the Camino?
Ah, yes that is the one single exception -- though the child has to be young enough to not qualify for a Compostela, which can only be given to a child if capable of reason, so yes only a baby or infant.Actually, dual names ARE allowed on the credential IF one of you is an infant.
I agree, what a cool thing to include in a child's baby book.But as to walking with a baby or infant, I just don't understand -- why not have a separate credencial?
But as to walking with a baby or infant, I just don't understand -- why not have a separate credencial?
I agree, what a cool thing to include in a child's baby book.
Exactly -- though as to your other points about accepting conditions, parents do so for their children as a matter of course.I cannot imagine any hospitalero refusing to admit an infant because it didn't have a credential.
@Vacajoe thank you for making the effort to put a positive spin on the OP's latest response.Pricehedgehog: you asked the forum members for their opinions and they gave them. In the future, if you prefer an official answer, ask the officials and not the forum. The value of this discussion is that it illustrates the feelings behind the rules and the disadvantages/advantages of a course of action - that has tremendous value.
What I find interesting is that the final answer you received is exactly what numerous posts said already but you refused to accept before. I’m glad that the question has now been unofficially and officially answered and appreciate that the wisdom of the group matched what the Office declared.
Yup@Vacajoe thank you for making the effort to put a positive spin on the OP's latest response.
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