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Just want to share my joy

Sven Kaven

photographer and mindfulness teacher
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2014, 2015, 2019, 01/2020)
Mozarabe (2015, 2016, 2017, 2019)
Plata (2017)
Portugal (2020)
Dear lovely poeple,

I dont have a question nor do I follow a particular agenda. I just want to share with you my joy about the upcoming walk on the camino portugues. After I walked the winter camino on the way of st james to santiago 2019 / 2020 and the corona pandemie got started shortly after that, I thought that this might have been the last camino this year. Now, I feel so gifted to be able to get on to the way again, starting from Porto and hopefully walking all the way to Finisterre. Perhaps I meet some of you on the way. Buen Camino Pilgrims.

Sven :)
 

Lexicos

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
1 Frances
2 Portuguese
My wife and I did that walk Sven, last September, Porto to Santiago. It’s quite a different hike to the Frances. We enjoyed it a lot and accommodation was easy, the towns lovely. Good people all along the way. I’d go back to Portugal any time. Porto will impress. You’ll find plenty to photograph. May God shed light on your path and keep you healthy and safe. Buen Camino.

....... and all who walk with you.
 

Sven Kaven

photographer and mindfulness teacher
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2014, 2015, 2019, 01/2020)
Mozarabe (2015, 2016, 2017, 2019)
Plata (2017)
Portugal (2020)
My wife and I did that walk Sven, last September, Porto to Santiago. It’s quite a different hike to the Frances. We enjoyed it a lot and accommodation was easy, the towns lovely. Good people all along the way. I’d go back to Portugal any time. Porto will impress. You’ll find plenty to photograph. May God shed light on your path and keep you healthy and safe. Buen Camino.
Hi Lexicos, many Thanks for your infos and well wishes. I know Portugal quite a bit and can confirm, that the people are very friendly. I am going to walk along the coast, as long as it goes and if god so will enter Spain to continue to Santiago.
 

Shades of Narnia

Sandi, Shades of Narnia
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Francis, 2014
Camino Portuguese 2015
Camino Francis, 2016 & Hospitalera in Viana Spain
(etc)
Buen Camino Sven. Pave the way. Several of us will be along, once international borders reopen. I personally, to the Via de la Plata. Peace & joy, fondly sandi
 

Bill Krueger

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2016)
Camino Portugues (June-2018)
we walked the Coastal route from Porto...it was magnificent...yes, very different than the Frances, flatter, quieter. Let us know how you are greeted by the locals under the circumstances. Be safe and many blessings!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino de Santiago, St Jean to Santuago, 2015
Camino Portuguese, 2018
Dear lovely poeple,

I dont have a question nor do I follow a particular agenda. I just want to share with you my joy about the upcoming walk on the camino portugues. After I walked the winter camino on the way of st james to santiago 2019 / 2020 and the corona pandemie got started shortly after that, I thought that this might have been the last camino this year. Now, I feel so gifted to be able to get on to the way again, starting from Porto and hopefully walking all the way to Finisterre. Perhaps I meet some of you on the way. Buen Camino Pilgrims.

Sven :)
Bom Caminho! I lived in Portugal quite a few years, and followed the Caminho in 2018. The Portuguese are hospitable, helpful people with a long history of which they are proud. They would prefer that those who do not speak Portuguese use English rather than Spanish.
May you have a good walk in every way!
 

Sven Kaven

photographer and mindfulness teacher
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2014, 2015, 2019, 01/2020)
Mozarabe (2015, 2016, 2017, 2019)
Plata (2017)
Portugal (2020)
Sven, when are you planning to start?
Please keep us informed as to what you find, especially the attitude of the people whose communities you pass through.
Hi Felice, I am flying the 17th of June to Lisbon, stay for a few days and then take the train up to Port, my starting point for the walk. When the borders to spain are open the 1st. of July, I am going to cross and continue to Santiago -> Finisterre. The portugues people I do know as a wonderful people. They are probably the most friendly and helpful I have ever met.
 

Sven Kaven

photographer and mindfulness teacher
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2014, 2015, 2019, 01/2020)
Mozarabe (2015, 2016, 2017, 2019)
Plata (2017)
Portugal (2020)
Buen Camino Sven. Pave the way. Several of us will be along, once international borders reopen. I personally, to the Via de la Plata. Peace & joy, fondly sandi
Hi Sandi, many thanks. Enjoy the villa de la plata, when you go. just avoid the summer months. Its well too hot then. Buen camino. Sven
 

Sven Kaven

photographer and mindfulness teacher
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2014, 2015, 2019, 01/2020)
Mozarabe (2015, 2016, 2017, 2019)
Plata (2017)
Portugal (2020)
we walked the Coastal route from Porto...it was magnificent...yes, very different than the Frances, flatter, quieter. Let us know how you are greeted by the locals under the circumstances. Be safe and many blessings!
Hey Bill, That's the way I gonna take as well. All along the coast and here and there a possibilty to jump into the ocean.
 

Sven Kaven

photographer and mindfulness teacher
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2014, 2015, 2019, 01/2020)
Mozarabe (2015, 2016, 2017, 2019)
Plata (2017)
Portugal (2020)
Bom Caminho! I lived in Portugal quite a few years, and followed the Caminho in 2018. The Portuguese are hospitable, helpful people with a long history of which they are proud. They would prefer that those who do not speak Portuguese use English rather than Spanish.
May you have a good walk in every way!
Hi Jane, thanks so much. Yes, people are very friendly and english is a good way to comunicate, for sure.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Norte (2017-18)
Portugues (2015)
Frances (2014)
Bom Caminho! I lived in Portugal quite a few years, and followed the Caminho in 2018. The Portuguese are hospitable, helpful people with a long history of which they are proud. They would prefer that those who do not speak Portuguese use English rather than Spanish.
May you have a good walk in every way!
They have historical reasons for their preference. I did notice that pilgrims who speak French can understand them fairly well, so if the French is one of the OP's languages he should be good to (sort-of) go!
buen camino
 

Sven Kaven

photographer and mindfulness teacher
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2014, 2015, 2019, 01/2020)
Mozarabe (2015, 2016, 2017, 2019)
Plata (2017)
Portugal (2020)
They have historical reasons for their preference. I did notice that pilgrims who speak French can understand them fairly well, so if the French is one of the OP's languages he should be good to (sort-of) go!
buen camino
I usually speak a mix of english and spanish, wehn I am in Portugal. Both works well.
 

Terry Callery

Chi Walker
Camino(s) past & future
"Portuguese Camino - In Search of the Infinite Moment" Amazon/Kindle books authored
"Slow Camino"
The Portuguese Camino is the best- flat, beautiful language and soulful people - great food! It was by far my best Camino Experience of the three that I did. Fado Band in Coimbre- I danced in the streets! I was so happy in Portugal.
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“We have a very important word in Portuguese that has no translation in English - it is the word ‘saudade’. It is a word that is uniquely Portuguese and it describes a part of the Portuguese character – it means ‘a longing for what once was, but can never be again.’

The studious young woman took out a slip of paper and wrote down the most important Portuguese word I was to learn on my pilgrimage… SAUDADE.

After checking into my room, I looked up the Portuguese word ‘saudade’ on my iPad.

Saudade is a deep emotional state of nostalgic or profound melancholic longing for an absent something or someone that one loves. Moreover, it often carries a repressed knowledge that the object of longing might never return. A stronger form of saudade might be felt towards people and things whose whereabouts are unknown, such as a lost lover, or a family member who has gone missing, moved away, separated, or died.

Saudade was once described as "the love that remains" after someone is gone.

Saudade is the recollection of feelings, experiences, places, or events that once brought excitement, pleasure, well-being, which now triggers the senses and makes one live again. It can be described as an emptiness, like someone or something that should be there in a particular moment is missing, and the individual feels this absence. It brings sad and happy feelings altogether, sadness for missing and happiness for having experienced the feeling.

Saudade is a word in Portuguese that claims no direct translation in English. In Portuguese, "Tenho saudades tuas" translates as "I have (feel) saudade of you" meaning "I miss you", but carries a much stronger tone. In fact, one can have saudade of someone whom one is with, but have some feeling of loss towards the past or the future. For example, one can have "saudade" towards part of the relationship or emotions once experienced for/with someone, though the person in question still is part of one's life, as in "Tenho saudade do que fomos" (I feel "saudade" of the way we were).
 
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knoisyknees

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Sjpdp/santiago. Lisbon/santiago. Porto/santiago coastal route
(Madrid/santiago)avenue lan
Dear lovely poeple,

I dont have a question nor do I follow a particular agenda. I just want to share with you my joy about the upcoming walk on the camino portugues. After I walked the winter camino on the way of st james to santiago 2019 / 2020 and the corona pandemie got started shortly after that, I thought that this might have been the last camino this year. Now, I feel so gifted to be able to get on to the way again, starting from Porto and hopefully walking all the way to Finisterre. Perhaps I meet some of you on the way. Buen Camino Pilgrims.

Sven :)
Sven ,In my opinion Muxia is a better end to a camino. Ultreia
 

Pelegrin

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo June 2013
SJPP - Logroño June 2014
Ingles July2016
The studious young woman took out a slip of paper and wrote down the most important Portuguese word I was to learn on my pilgrimage… SAUDADE.
Saudade is a word in Portuguese that claims no direct translation in English. In Portuguese, "Tenho saudades tuas" translates as "I have (feel) saudade of you" meaning "I miss you", but carries a much stronger tone. In fact, one can have saudade of someone whom one is with, but have some feeling of loss towards the past or the future. For example, one can have "saudade" towards part of the relationship or emotions once experienced for/with someone, though the person in question still is part of one's life, as in "Tenho saudade do que fomos" (I feel "saudade" of the way we were).
The word Saudade also exists in Galician, though is more used Morriña that has the same meaning.
In the song "Un Canto a Galicia", Julio Iglesias says:
"Teño morriña teño saudade porque estou lonxe de eses teus lares."
 

scowie

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2012
Part of Camino Portugues 2013
Dear lovely poeple,

I dont have a question nor do I follow a particular agenda. I just want to share with you my joy about the upcoming walk on the camino portugues. After I walked the winter camino on the way of st james to santiago 2019 / 2020 and the corona pandemie got started shortly after that, I thought that this might have been the last camino this year. Now, I feel so gifted to be able to get on to the way again, starting from Porto and hopefully walking all the way to Finisterre. Perhaps I meet some of you on the way. Buen Camino Pilgrims.

Sven :)
I walked from Porto to Santiago in 2013, there were not so many albergues then, so we had rooms with families for the most of the time. I have never experienced generosity and friendliness like I did then in any of my travels. Many of the people we stayed with or met had very little, but what they had, they wanted to give and share. I loved the Portuguese people and look forward to walking there again in the future. Buen Camino
 

Mycroft

Active Member
Dear lovely poeple,

I dont have a question nor do I follow a particular agenda. I just want to share with you my joy about the upcoming walk on the camino portugues. After I walked the winter camino on the way of st james to santiago 2019 / 2020 and the corona pandemie got started shortly after that, I thought that this might have been the last camino this year. Now, I feel so gifted to be able to get on to the way again, starting from Porto and hopefully walking all the way to Finisterre. Perhaps I meet some of you on the way. Buen Camino Pilgrims.

Sven :)
Was on the Portugues last September. It was great! Many blessings on your journey.
 

Lucy Keenan

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2016 Northern Route, 2017 Santiago to Muxia and Fisterra. 2018 Frances, 2018 Ingles, 2019 Portugues
we walked the Coastal route from Porto...it was magnificent...yes, very different than the Frances, flatter, quieter. Let us know how you are greeted by the locals under the circumstances. Be safe and many blessings!
Yes, totally agree. I walked last August 2019. A completely different feel to it than the Frances.
 

Peter Wright

Walking to stay young
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese Porto to Santiago Sept/ Oct (2019)
Dear lovely poeple,

I dont have a question nor do I follow a particular agenda. I just want to share with you my joy about the upcoming walk on the camino portugues. After I walked the winter camino on the way of st james to santiago 2019 / 2020 and the corona pandemie got started shortly after that, I thought that this might have been the last camino this year. Now, I feel so gifted to be able to get on to the way again, starting from Porto and hopefully walking all the way to Finisterre. Perhaps I meet some of you on the way. Buen Camino Pilgrims.

Sven :)
I also did Porto to Santiago in late September and first week October 2019. Did inland route. Wonderful. Bom Camino Sven.
 

Sven Kaven

photographer and mindfulness teacher
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2014, 2015, 2019, 01/2020)
Mozarabe (2015, 2016, 2017, 2019)
Plata (2017)
Portugal (2020)
Ha Ha Ha, my flight to Lisbon has been less than 48 hours before departure cancelled. Yipiieee. :) But hey, after a good night sleep I figured an alternative and now I am flying just a day later. We will see. Its all a camino 🥰
 

Lucy Keenan

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2016 Northern Route, 2017 Santiago to Muxia and Fisterra. 2018 Frances, 2018 Ingles, 2019 Portugues
Let us know how you get on. 👣🚶‍♂️
 

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