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more trains on renfe than omni or rome2rio?

QiTwirler

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There are options on the renfe website traveling from Santiago de Compostela to Madrid at noon and 2pm on Sept 20, 2022... which work better for my schedule, why do other travel tool websites like Rome2rio and Omni only show 4 making that route, 2 early in the morning, 1 late afternoon and 1 at night?
Am I not understanding the Renfe site correctly?
 
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J Willhaus

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2016, 2022
Looks like you can buy from Renfe for a variety of times. The other sites may just get a certain number of tickets from Renfe as a third party vendor? I also checked the Trainline App and it showed only the late afternoon and evening trains available while the Renfe site does have many more at this time.

I have had trouble getting the Renfe site to take my American credit card sometimes so usually use one of the third party sites, but other people have said they had not trouble or used Pay Pal.
 

trecile

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I have had trouble getting the Renfe site to take my American credit card sometimes so usually use one of the third party sites, but other people have said they had not trouble or used Pay Pal.
I also had trouble with my US credit card on the Renfe site, but PayPal works perfectly.
 

J Willhaus

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Off topic- I've been reading that due to the discounts for Spanish commuters and frequent travelers from Sept 1-Dec 13 that train travel has increased in popularity on some routes this week. (Media-distance and Regional).
 
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J Willhaus

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There are options on the renfe website traveling from Santiago de Compostela to Madrid at noon and 2pm on Sept 20, 2022... which work better for my schedule, why do other travel tool websites like Rome2rio and Omni only show 4 making that route, 2 early in the morning, 1 late afternoon and 1 at night?
Am I not understanding the Renfe site correctly?
I do recommend that you buy while tickets are available.
 
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Off topic but since PayPal was mentioned there is a very tricky scam involving invoices sent by PayPal. The scammers are not PayPal but the scammers used a PayPal feature to get it to email a message with valid PayPal links. The scam works when you use PayPal to view the invoice and can't see it so you call the phone number to see what is going on. It's the scammers number.

I got the message and tracked sender and links and they were valid but I was suspicious anyway because of two things. One part of the message said "debited to" instead of "debited from" and another said "$600. 00" with a space which an automated program would not do. I finally realized it was fake when I checked my file where I stored my PayPal data. It was seven years since I used PayPal and I had forgotten that I signed up for it with a different email account.

Anyway, here is a webpage with warning information and a YouTube video that explains how the scammers pulled off the trick if you are interested in the technical details.


 
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biarritzdon

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I received so many scam notices from PayPal telling my account had been suspended and to respond immediately. When I looked at my account on line, no such thing. I quit using them and closed my account. I still get those kinds of notices.
 

trecile

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I received so many scam notices from PayPal telling my account had been suspended and to respond immediately. When I looked at my account on line, no such thing. I quit using them and closed my account. I still get those kinds of notices.
No need to not use PayPal because you are sent spam from scammers.
 

witsendwv

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(2015)
Looks like you can buy from Renfe for a variety of times. The other sites may just get a certain number of tickets from Renfe as a third party vendor? I also checked the Trainline App and it showed only the late afternoon and evening trains available while the Renfe site does have many more at this time.

I have had trouble getting the Renfe site to take my American credit card sometimes so usually use one of the third party sites, but other people have said they had not trouble or used Pay Pal.
I just used Paypal to purchase five different tickets Sept-Oct with no problems. 16 days and counting!!:D
 
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I received so many scam notices from PayPal... I quit using them and closed my account.
Those notices didn't come from PayPal. I used to get them even before I had a PayPal account. Just like the notices about the credit cards I don't have (or even do have), and the Amazon deliveries I don't have, or the Microsoft virus I don't have. The scammers know that most people have some such accounts, so they do a blanket issue of the scam email. You will get these notices whether or not you have an account with the targeted site. Some land on fallow ground (where the recipient does have an account) and others do not.
 
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There are options on the renfe website traveling from Santiago de Compostela to Madrid at noon and 2pm on Sept 20, 2022... which work better for my schedule, why do other travel tool websites like Rome2rio and Omni only show 4 making that route, 2 early in the morning, 1 late afternoon and 1 at night?
Am I not understanding the Renfe site correctly?
This thread has wandered a bit but to answer the OP. It’s a reasonable assumption that the company that actually runs the trains knows what trains they are running and when.

The simplest test you can apply is to try and book a ticket for your desired train. The rest of us can only observe or discuss the wonders of internet scammers
 

Jan Vida

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There are options on the renfe website traveling from Santiago de Compostela to Madrid at noon and 2pm on Sept 20, 2022... which work better for my schedule, why do other travel tool websites like Rome2rio and Omni only show 4 making that route, 2 early in the morning, 1 late afternoon and 1 at night?
Am I not understanding the Renfe site correctly?
Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
I believe Rometorio gives you current at the time of enquiring info. I've made the same search on different days and read different info. Try the search on the same day of the week that you want to travel.
 

QiTwirler

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Thank you everyone. Seems Rime2rio and Omni just show the ALVIA trains, REnfe also shows trains ALANTE-LD. I have booked one, 20e less and a preferable time of day,to me. I don’t understand why it’s cheaper or why these don’t show on Rome2Rio, hopefully it’s not a nasty surprise.
 
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Rome2rio was set up as an aggregator of information readily available on the internet but not easily accessed by people who did not know that the trains in Spain were operated by RENFE or that Southern Vectis no longer has the bus franchise for the Isle of Wight. The original developers came up with some really great software that did an amazing job at crawling across millions of data points and delivering multiple, simple resolutions to travel logistics. Rome2rio is now owned by Omio. A ticket seller. It will not point you at a logistical resolution for which it cannot sell you a ticket.
Your life has been improved. Glad to be of service 😉
 

Rosella25

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Thank you everyone. Seems Rime2rio and Omni just show the ALVIA trains, REnfe also shows trains ALANTE-LD. I have booked one, 20e less and a preferable time of day,to me. I don’t understand why it’s cheaper or why these don’t show on Rome2Rio, hopefully it’s not a nasty surprise.
It's possibly cheaper because it's a bit slower (it stops at more stations) and I think you may have to change trains in Ourense. You can check the details of the trip on the Renfe site once you choose a particular train ticket, it's a link below the ticketing information.
 

J Willhaus

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2016, 2022
Thank you everyone. Seems Rime2rio and Omni just show the ALVIA trains, REnfe also shows trains ALANTE-LD. I have booked one, 20e less and a preferable time of day,to me. I don’t understand why it’s cheaper or why these don’t show on Rome2Rio, hopefully it’s not a nasty surprise.
The trains are different classes. Still should be comfortable.
 

Stephan the Painter

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Frances 2022
Rome2rio was set up as an aggregator of information readily available on the internet but not easily accessed by people who did not know that the trains in Spain were operated by RENFE or that Southern Vectis no longer has the bus franchise for the Isle of Wight. The original developers came up with some really great software that did an amazing job at crawling across millions of data points and delivering multiple, simple resolutions to travel logistics. Rome2rio is now owned by Omio. A ticket seller. It will not point you at a logistical resolution for which it cannot sell you a ticket.
Your life has been improved. Glad to be of service 😉
Now that’s interesting, I did feel recently Rome2rio wasn’t as good as it used to be. And at the beginning of the pandemic I had to really pressure OMIO to refund some train tickets, Even though I had paid for that refundable upgrade.
 

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