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Not sure about infamy but certainly a tragedy for Paris and the world.This evening's reportage and images of the Notre Dame fire are heart breaking. April 15, 2019 has now become another date of horrific infamy for Paris.
Dear God...such a loss for the world.Church spokeman says nothing will be left.
It took more than 200 years to build it.
It took less than 2 hours to destroy it.
Been there.If you get the chance, visit the Holy Family -Sagrada Familia still under construction in Barcelona and still with another 30-40 years of work to go. It's humbling to see how many lifetimes these places take/took to build.
I wonder how many original manuscripts and objects of art have vanished from existence today. Please, let there have been copies....
This evening's reportage and images of the Notre Dame fire are heart breaking. April 15, 2019 has now become another date of horrific infamy for Paris.
We are all praying right now.The Archbishop of Paris Michel Aupetit has tweeted a message to “all the priests of Paris”:
The firefighters are still fighting to save the towers of Notre-Dame de Paris. The frame, the roof and the spire are consumed. Let us pray. If you wish, you can ring the bells of your churches to invite prayer.
While this accident is an awful tragedy the Notre-Dame is one of the most thoroughly documented building in the world. After massive reconstruction works in 19th C only approximately 30% of original building/art/elements etc. was saved. Actually more was added hence the percentage. Again all was documented and I'm sure the Cathedral will be renovated some day....
I wonder how many original manuscripts and objects of art have vanished from existence today. Please, let there have been copies....
Sadly yes but I heard that most of the bronze statues were removed because of the works. You can hardly remove stainglass windows though...Been there.
Many priceless objects are gone forever tonight..
Just this minute, the news reported that the priests, with the help from the firefighters, managed to save out most of the art/artifacts early after the tragedy began. I hope this is true.I wonder how many original manuscripts and objects of art have vanished from existence today. Please, let there have been copies....
Nothing is permanent on this plane of existence. Nothing.Unbelievable. Without words... this is why you travel and visit places why you can. Nothing is permanent on this plane of existence.
Sadly yes but I heard that most of the bronze statues were removed because of the works. You can hardly remove stainglass windows though...
It was a Hell of a fire...But God is still there....
I think if you direct your wish correctly, the Catholic Church has the money ready already.President Macron said they will raise money to rebuild Notre Dame starting to collect Tuesday. If every pilgrim would donate only a few euros we could really make a difference. I‘ll post a link or something as soon as I see it.
Lets rebuild it all together!
Sorry if my English sounds weird. It‘s pretty late in Europe already.
I am so sad to hear about this tragedy. There is no words that fully describes what an enormous loss this is to Paris, France and the world.. My prayers are with the firefighters and Notre-Dame itself. 🕯This evening's reportage and images of the Notre Dame fire are heart breaking. April 15, 2019 has now become another date of horrific infamy for Paris.
And yet, even in it's destruction, there is beauty. The glow within the spire as it dies is stunning.I was there to see Notre Dame burn along with much of Paris. It was horrific. View attachment 55107
I feel a load of pain has been lifted off so many with this passageA Paris Tragedy (Dennis Aubrey)
PJ and I are devastated by the fire at the Cathédrale Notre Dame de Paris, but the news is not all bad. This photograph was tweeted by and is the first shot I’ve seen from inside the fire zon…vialucispress.wordpress.com
Check this post for a recent picture of the inside of the Cathedral, written by one of the world’s experts on medieval architecture.
Fortunately now it appears that the North window has suvived:Is it certain that the rose windows are gone?
The organ? Has anyone heard??Face nord les rosaces semblent avoir tenu. Sur la rue, au sol, aucun débris de vitraux. Juste des vieilles pierres éclatées... « on reste inquiet » glisse un pompier.
Fortunately now it appears that the North window has suvived:
The organ? Has anyone heard??
Fortunately now it appears that the North window has suvived:
The organ? Has anyone heard??
I have had that thought too. But after this fire, they would be total idiots not to consider that...I bet they are all scrambling right now to make sure the job that is being done in Santiago is double- and triple-checked for safety.I just had a thought... I hope and pray that the authorities handling the renovation at the Cathedral in Santiago take heed from this sad experience, and revisit practices on the job to prevent another such accident from occurring...
Seems they are safe: Notre Dame Rose Windows SafeI am confused. I thought the north transept windows were gone.
Then again, I may be directionally challenged. My understanding is that the altar end of the cathedral faces East, as is traditional.
That means that the main facade and entrance, faces West, as does the Cathedral at Santiago. That is why I stated earlier that the North transept windows were gone. Was I wrong?
Huh?
Thats a nice leap of Faith for "humanity"I have had that thought too. But after this fire, they would be total idiots not to consider that...
They are aware of it in all the medieval cathedrals of the known worldBut after this fire, they would be total idiots not to consider that...I
It was astonishing...and no wonder the fire burned as it did. There was a forest of fuel:The famous "forest", ie the wooden frame - age of the wood, complexity, dimensions - of Nôtre Dame de Paris was legendary. And it's gone forever ....
I was amazed - as well as horrified of course - to see the spire burn the way it did before it collapsed.It was astonishing...and no wonder the fire burned as it did. There was a forest of fuel:
The organ? Has anyone heard??
Not going to happen and besides, can you find a Gothic cathedral anywhere that is still in its "original" form? Santiago de Compostela isn't, that's for sure. And all the others have also been modernised or modified throughout the centuries in many ways, either because it was necessary or wanted.Some of you, probably many of you, may respond to this post as blasphemy but I honestly think it should NOT be restored to its original form. First of all there are many Gothic churches and cathedrals to visit, so why one more which is no longer the original?
There will be the mother of all jigsaw puzzles when they take the jumble of fallen stones under the fallen vaults and do whatever it takes to put them together again.I would reconstruct the inner roof vaults exactly as they were.
Thank you for posting this @MinaKamina. It is astonishing they are still there.Here's the window:
No, it wasn't.The suggestion was sound and well intentioned
This is not correct.suggestion to use water dropping tanker planes or helicopters could not be used. Once the outer roof burned through, dropping that much water in one place would collapse the roof arches from the outside in. It would be like the mother of all water balloons. Gothic cathedral architecture is unique. Everything is balanced against everything else. Apply too much weight or pressure in the wrong place, and the whole structure could collapse.
This is not correct.
Very good translation. Lume is fire. Much more used than fogo.In answer to my question:
Chief of the Santiago fire brigade: "I have to say that the Cathedral of Santiago has a lower fire risk than Notre-Dame de Paris because it does not have a wooden [roof] structure".Correo Gallego, 17.4.2019, Hai que ter en conta que a Catedral de Santiago ten moita menor carga de lume que a de París porque non ten estrutura de madeira. I hope I got the translation right, I struggled a bit with the word lume.
Thank you. I was hoping to get a confirmation or correction from youLume is fire. Much more used than fogo.
ValeI suggest we allow this tangential discussion to just wither away.
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