Stephanie Martin
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Camino in Sept/Oct/Nov 2022 (via the French route)
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I do this quite often, as many of the second courses are not appealing. I'd rather have two firsts, like salad and lentil stew or salad and pasta.occasionally I'll opt for two starters, and that's never a problem
Depending on the place, Menú del día can have a varying number of option for each course. On average, they offer 3-4 options. Typically, you choose a first and a second, but many places will allow you to take 2 firsts (this is particularly relevant for vegetarians, as you're more likely to find vegetarian options among the first courses).Hi,
Just wondering how to order the Menu del Dia and about tipping?
My command of Spanish isn't good and I'm wondering of ordering the above requires alot of choosing of options, or if they have set Menu del Dia meals. Also, is it customary to tip in Spain and what's the recommendation? Thank you.
And sometimes just one glassOne question is how much wine comes with your meal. Varies tremendously--from one liter per table to one liter per person to as much wine as you like.
Other than the US, where else are servers dependent upon tips to make a living wage? I cannot think of any, but you might enlighten me.Unlike many countries
CanadaOther than the US, where else are servers dependent upon tips to make a living wage? I cannot think of any, but you might enlighten me.
I have amended my post and hope it is of help to the OP.Other than the US, where else are servers dependent upon tips to make a living wage? I cannot think of any, but you might enlighten me.
As an Australian who finds the spread of any form of obligatory tipping culture such as exists in some countries odious, I don't think anyone deserves a tip for just doing their job. They deserve to be paid a fair living wage by their employer.Remember the wait staff is probably made up of family members of the owner and chef. That being said they deserve some kind of gratuity.
Canada, which is not the US. We merely share a continent.Other than the US, where else are servers dependent upon tips to make a living wage? I cannot think of any, but you might enlighten me.
Interesting. I had always thought of Canada as a country with reasonable minimum wage standards for the food service, and other, industry.. Canada
That I do agree with, but I make the decision to tip when the service is clearly better than might be expected.Doug, I am on the fence. It is not odious, it is just a small courtesy for good service, if good service was received.
No, there is reduced wage for anyone who serves alcohol. Without tips the work is not sustainable as income. With tips those who are good at it and work in a good establishment can do very well. Most are not in that situation and the bulk of our tertiary students put their time in doing “service” and hoping to leave it behind.Interesting. I had always thought of Canada as a country with reasonable minimum wage standards for the food service, and other, industry.
Agree on the “fair wage” … and also a wage commensurate with the level of the establishment. We have a shocking over-representation of servers working high-end locations who make nothing like a high end wage. They rely on the large tips in the high bills for their tables. But if we simply raised the table cost and removed tipping, a shocking number of people would assert that they cannot afford to go out.As an Australian who finds the spread of any form of obligatory tipping culture such as exists in some countries odious, I don't think anyone deserves a tip for just doing their job. They deserve to be paid a fair living wage by their employer.
I understand that there isn't such a social obligation in Spain, and I don't think we, as visitors, should be attempting to change the local culture to fit our own cultural norms in this or any other
Mexico tooOther than the US, where else are servers dependent upon tips to make a living wage? I cannot think of any, but you might enlighten me.
It seems tipping is a very North American thingCanada, which is not the US. We merely share a continent.
Great advice, thank you.For more detailed info on tipping, you can check this post.
In the US tipping is wanted by wait staff as it "beefs up" their low wages. It is normally needed, and always appreciated. It is never demeaning in our country; only if no tip or very small tip is given. If we can afford to eat out at a restaurant, we can afford to tip whatever is customary in each county we visit. I give tips in Spain and always get a smile of appreciation.I think that maybe I have given seven or eight tips in my life, including when I travelled around North America. I consider regular tipping to be demeaning to both parties.
It appears to me that the demeaning aspect is that the food industry has sufficient industrial muscle to ensure that any tips are not an addition to a living wage, but are factored into the minimum wage structures, essentially creating this obligation to supplement servers income for something that elsewhere is considered the responsibility of the employer.It is never demeaning in our county; only if no tip or very small tip is given.
It is now very difficult, even in albergues, to prepare one's own meals on the camino. Maybe not impossible, but nonetheless difficult. It is not a choice of eating out as much as a necessity.If we can afford to eat out at a restaurant, we can afford to tip as is customary in each county we visit.
I choose to do this.or whether you will react to the human being in front of you who may be struggling to get by and has just served you a meal.
Absolutely. They cater to innocent tourists rather than local customers - and so can serve cheap bad food.In my experience, it is a very good idea to stay away from places that show pictures of their food on a sandwich board outside or on the menu.
That's all the answer you need.More, tipping is clearly not customary in Spain,
Ditto. Except to say that I think it's sad North American customs are spreading to Spain; I agree with Doug:I will not give my opinions on tipping, although I do have them.
and it seems to me a great shame that anyone, not just pilgrims, thoughtlessly and insidiously changes any aspect of another nation's culture by insisting on doing things that did not, and do not have to be, practiced in that society. Its a nasty form of cultural imperialism in my view.
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