Thank you. I had thought about a vest but am afraid my arms might get cold. I see you have a zpack poncho, do you us a zpack pack?
Hi DaveHi, Nancy. . .
Let me offer up a third option, which is what I use for a thermal layer when backpacking and on Camino during fall. A down vest. This is an example of a dynamite value for a good quality vest. Vests like this are half the weight of the Better Sweater, and far more compressible to take up a lot less space.
For the purposes of providing an example, this is what is in the "clothes closet" in my backpack.
(The total weight is around 3.4 pounds.)
- Pants -- REI, Classic Sahara Convertible, Zip-Off Legs
- Baselayer Top -- Smartwool, Lightweight, Long-Sleeve x 1
- Baselayer Bottom - Smartwool, Lightweight
- Hat - wool beanie
- Windshell Jacket - Patagonia, Houdini
- Insulating Layer -- Mountain Hardwear, Ghost Whisperer Vest
- Socks -- Smartwool Phd, Crew, Light Padding x 2
- Extra insoles x 1
- Poncho --- Zpacks, Cuben Fiber
- Gloves -- North Face, polartec
The clothing that I wear usually consists of running shorts and a long sleeved synthetic and lightweight shirt. All of the clothing can be used in various layering configurations to provide a comfort range from 25F to very hot. This is just an example of how a layering system can be flexible and cover a wide temperature range which is more than sufficient for the time of year you are going over the Pyrenees and Galicia.
It's really useful to see this clothing list and the other items that form your layering system. 25F to 'very hot' is quite a climatic range.
All of the shirts or baselayer tops are long sleeved. In hot weather, long sleeves keep me cooler by not allowing the sun's radiation to have direct contact with skin. Short sleeves actually make one hotter as the sun's energy directly heats the skin and works that heat through the upper layers.
The long sleeves will dramatically increase thermal warmth in cool or cold weather. Since I have two long sleeve shirts (one in the pack and the one I wear), I can add the second which really ramps up the insulating factor. Add a vest and the comfort range is pretty significant. Add a wind shell or rain jacket on top of that, and it is surprising just how warm you will stay at low temperatures.
No, I don't use Zpacks packs, but I have other pieces of gear from them. I was hired by them to do a gear test of their ArcFlex, and While it was OK, I never could get used to it. My current pack is the Gossamer Gear Mariposa. I've used it on part of my PCT thru-hike, on my Colorado Trail thru-hike, and on last fall's Camino. It will come with me again during this September/October Camino. And unlike the ArcFlex, the Mariposa meets all standards for use as a carry-on for flying.
Hey Dave, I have never used a vest before, but your recommendation, and the sale price convinced me to buy two of the those vests you linked. At 49 bucks each..and no shipping charge seems like a good deal? Will let you know! Thanks!
As soon as we get a cool enough day here on the East CoastPlease do let me know what you think. My Ghost Whisperer vest is lighter and works great, but it is more expensive; and that vest looked like a great deal, plus the stated fill of the down should make it just as warm.
I took my Patagonia lightweight puffer jacket and it was great. I get cold on planes, so I used it there, but actually only wore it a couple of days on my September Camino. It was mainly hot, but a couple of very cold days snuck in there, and I was glad it had sleeves.I’m walking CF Sept 19-Oct 25. I have the better sweater, very warm but bulky to pack. Should I buy a down jacket to use instead?
I'm walking the CF starting on Sept 22 from SJPP. I estimate that I'll finish at the end of October. I too have been thinking long and hard about what clothing to bring along that would cope with a possibly wide range of weather conditions. And all the time being aware of the critical importance of keeping down the weight of the pack. Good Fun, eh? I've been influenced very much by Dave Bugg's clothing list that he posted earlier on the thread. I've never ever taking a down filled garment with me - but I have just ordered one of the Ghost Whisperer Vests. When it arrives I'll check it out against the J Wolfskin Gecko fleece that I had intended to take. I will only be taking one of them.I’m walking CF Sept 19-Oct 25. I have the better sweater, very warm but bulky to pack. Should I buy a down jacket to use instead?