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Pilgrim Routes within UK and Ireland

AcrossTheWater3008

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Hi

I am interested in doing some pilgrimages within the UK and Ireland in the future. I have walked some routes around Canterbury.

If anyone know of any good guide books of these routes, or easy (dont understand ordinance maps) maps, or point me to websites, walking groups etc would be most appreciated.

Cheers G
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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@bunnymac

Hey looks good! Fantastic scenery .... Hv you done the walk?

Cheers G
 

Bradypus

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The UK is not very well supplied with dedicated pilgrimage routes complete with guide books. For non-religious long distance walks along signposted routes, complete with detailed guides, you could try the various National Trails: http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/ Or if you fancy walking for a whole week before Easter with a group of friendly nutters carrying a large cross, singing, praying and laughing quite a lot you might want to look at Student Cross (walking to Walsingham), Northern Cross (going to Lindisfarne) or Scottish Cross (heading for Iona).

http://www.studentcross.org.uk/
http://www.northerncross.co.uk/
http://www.scottishcross.org.uk/whatis.php

Personally I like to choose my own pilgrimage destinations and then make my own route there. That does involve map-reading skills. I know you say that you do not understand OS maps. There is probably nothing that would make life easier and more pleasant for you as a walker in the UK than spending a bit of time in getting to grips with them - preferably with a knowledgeable friend to help you. They are a fantastic resource once you get the hang of them.
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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Hey @Bradypus

Fantastic information, thanks!! I will get a friend to teach me those map skills. If you think of anything else please let me know.

Noooo... walking with "nutters" not my idea of fun.

Cheers G
 

timr

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There is a resurgence of interest in pilgrim routes in Ireland at the moment.
Two good books:
Tochar by Darach MacDonald (very cheap on Kindle) and
Pilgrim paths in Ireland by John G O'Dwyer
The first is more narrative, the second is more of a practical walking guide, that you would carry with you as a guide, though also an entertaining read. The books are quite different in style and very complementary.
And do explore this website www.pilgrimpath.ie which gives up to date information.
and a Facebook page.
Most of the walks described are do-able in one day, and remember Ireland is only small ;) so you could do several in a week!
Tim
 
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timr

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Or if you fancy walking for a whole week before Easter with a group of friendly nutters carrying a large cross, singing, praying and laughing quite a lot you might want to look at Student Cross (walking to Walsingham), Northern Cross (going to Lindisfarne) or Scottish Cross (heading for Iona).
That description really made me laugh and made me want to sign up now for next Easter! I have never done Student Cross though I know a good number of people who have in the past, all of them people I would quite happily walk with for a week or more! But I am a priest and as they say, "Easter is our busy time!":)
 

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Hi
Try http://britishpilgrimage.co.uk/
Lots of options in UK but not all advertised / signed so well
Not sure where in UK you are?
I'm doing the Peak Pilgrimage next month
See http://www.peakpilgrimage.org.uk/
I've done St Cuthbert's Way
I've walked Winchester to Canterbury
The LDWA has lots of long walks and some of them have "history"
Where are you based?
Ned
 
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AJ

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There is a resurgence of interest in pilgrim routes in Ireland at the moment.
Two good books:
Tochar by Darach MacDonald (very cheap on Kindle) and
Pilgrim paths in Ireland by John G O'Dwyer
The first is more narrative, the second is more of a practical walking guide, that you would carry with you as a guide, though also an entertaining read. The books are quite different in style and very complementary.
And do explore this website www.pilgrimpath.ie which gives up to date information.
and a Facebook page.
Most of the walks described are do-able in one day, and remember Ireland is only small ;) so you could do several in a week!
Tim
I obtained both of these excellent books earlier this year (or maybe last) when researching the possibility of a long pilgrimage in Ireland. The Irish heritage website is also good.

The problem is taht these are all short walks, some of which are not accessible by public transport, so if you are a visitor, alone and don't have a car, forget it. A pity because these are important places of pilgrimage.
 

Tincatinker

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If you fancy a pilgrimage route a little longer in the tooth than the blessed Frances try the Ridgeway http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/ridgeway. A prehistoric camino to the greatest neolithic temple complex in the known world ;). Non-pagans welcome....

Edit: Frankly I think most of the 'information' on the National Trails website is inaccurate and appallingly presented but there are good resources for anyone seriously interested in this ancient way.
 

Purple Backpack

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Hi

I am interested in doing some pilgrimages within the UK and Ireland in the future. I have walked some routes around Canterbury.

If anyone know of any good guide books of these routes, or easy (dont understand ordinance maps) maps, or point me to websites, walking groups etc would be most appreciated.

Cheers G
Not a pilgrimage but hiked England's Coast to Coast last year and had a great time. After struggling with less than perfect maps, found the AZ Adventure Series with 1:25,000 scale map booklets (which means they are blown up quite a bit larger). The trails were marked in beautiful red dots so it was just walking dot to dot! They do have accurate topography, roads, landmarks and such, too. I love maps and use them more than a GPS. This was the most user friendly I've ever seen.

It looks like they have the Lake District, Brecon Beacons, North York Moors, SW Coast Path, Peak District and the Ridgeway. I have no idea if there are pilgrimages in any of these areas but if so, I would use these maps. Looks like Amazon has at least the Coast to Coast one. If you click on the image, it will blow up so you can see the trail's red dots.
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julia-t

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Right now one of the forum members, Andy, is walking the Cistercian Way in Wales. He started last Sunday and will walk (I think) 700 miles in 6-7 weeks. He's also a priest, and posting a blog...
https://pilgrimpace.wordpress.com/

I think the Confraternity of Saint James has some information on British pilgrimages, and as mentioned above, the British pilgrimage website.
 

Bradypus

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Too many and too often!
Right now one of the forum members, Andy, is walking the Cistercian Way in Wales.
Andy spent the past couple of nights at my house and we walked together for 3 days. Worth pointing out that the Cistercian Way is still being developed and as yet does not really exist as a way marked route on the ground. A lot of work is going into devising safe and practical links between the abbeys that form the loop. Andy's experience will be fed back into the process. Still a lot of mapwork and careful route selection along the way. Not a route for the inexperienced at the moment in my opinion.
 

OTH86

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This isn't about a pilgrimage, but I'm thinking about walking the Thames Path beginning about 10 April next year, then to the Frances again as long as I'm "in the area" (it's a long way from Seattle). Any current info you can share would be interesting - about the Thames path as well as getting from UK to Spain (or SW France) as inexpensively as possible.
Thanks! Buen Camino! Terry
 
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@AcrossTheWater3008 -

For Ireland, here is a site for the better known Holy Walks: http://www.heritagecouncil.ie/landscape/initiatives/the-pilgrim-paths/tochar-phadraig/

My wife and I have climbed the Croagh Patrick; no time time to do the walk from Ballintubber then but will pick it up later. (Those of you who remember the walk from Cruz de Ferro down to Acebo might not believe that climbing up and down the Croagh is an order of magnitude worse. Seriously!)

Not holy walks but still quite enjoyable are the Dingle Way (coming to be known as the "Kerry Camino") and any of the day hikes around the English Lake District.

I would get the OS maps for the Dingle Way from here: http://www.dingleway.com/trail-maps/index.php

The guide book sold from the site is pretty well dated. Good for overall briefing on what is there, the instructions for walking not so much. But, have no fear, the path is extremely well marked.

For updated information on any of the Irish walks, there seem to be lots of regional walking clubs that you could consult for information via the web. (Wish that I had known before going.:()

The walks are beautiful, the local food and brews excel but the best memory for the beloved and I were just how great the people were. Good heavens - the friendliness, humor and helpfulness were off the charts!

I highly recommend!

B
 

AlwynWellington

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Any current info you can share would be interesting - about the Thames path
@OTH86 , hi.

I had to retire hurt (as they say in cricket), with pulled leg muscles, at Estella-Lizara in early May this year and stayed in the area = London in my case. As the walking improved I started Thames Path doing day trips (down stream) that I could easily get to and from my temporary London home. When things were easier I started a nine trip from Thames Head to Windsor, using my very lightweight tent most nights. And then went to the eastern end (Woolwich) and walked back up stream over three days to the end of my last day trip: for this segment I stayed in hostels, much as I would in France and Spain.

I used three aids. In no particular order:
Thames Path in the country - Source to Hampton Court - Official National Trail; and
Thames Path in London - Hampton Court to Woolwich (or Crayford Ness) - Official National Trail
Thames Path - Thames Head to Thames Barrier (just before Woolwich - Joel Newton

For these, and other possibles, I suggest you head to Stanfords, 12-14 Long Acre, Covent Garden, London WC2E 9LP or http://www.stanfords.co.uk/ This is a three floor shop in Central London dedicated to maps and related pursuits.

The third aid was OSMand+. This is an offline (in the field) map app for Android and works best on tablets. Turn on walking routes and you will see Thames Path and others that have been logged.

Being not unfamiliar with the country scene I found Thames Path very repetitive. Once I had walked through two or three fields that had no difference from the last ... So, wherever possible I would walk on roads going through towns and villages that are not on the formal pathway. Even more interesting way to meet people and see the country.

On the ground I found signage was confusing at times. In many cases very limited indications at intersections (paths or roads). There were just too many cases in the first three days of the step up to of down from a bridge being around 600 mm (2 foot): almost impossibly too much for those with good fitness but lessened agility. Another issue, directly related to the time of year, was thick oozy mud in many places from Thames Head to Putney when I first walked from mid June to late July. I re-walked one such section (Kinsgton to Kew Bridge) on the last Saturday in August (late Summer) and no mud so a very fast trip.

In London I took the opportunity to visit the two Monopoly (board game) stations (Fenchurch Street and Liverpool Street) that I had not seen before (and other stuff). But you will have different interests.

Kia kaha (be strong, have courage, get going)
 
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Introibo

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Whist not a pilgrimage route per se, the Thames path can be if you have a good imagination.
I did a three day walk a few years ago from Hampton Court Palace to the Tower of London
and then onto Greenwich. I reflected on the lives of Cardinal Wolsey and St. Thomas More
as we walked along. Meanwhile my walking companions worshipped at The Tate and anywhere
that sold Fullers. Each to their own.
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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There is a resurgence of interest in pilgrim routes in Ireland at the moment.
Two good books:
Tochar by Darach MacDonald (very cheap on Kindle) and
Pilgrim paths in Ireland by John G O'Dwyer
The first is more narrative, the second is more of a practical walking guide, that you would carry with you as a guide, though also an entertaining read. The books are quite different in style and very complementary.
And do explore this website www.pilgrimpath.ie which gives up to date information.
and a Facebook page.
Most of the walks described are do-able in one day, and remember Ireland is only small ;) so you could do several in a week!
Tim
Hi @timr

Brilliant information, thanks..! :) I will get those books... looks like they are available on Amazon. Will definitely explore the website in detail.... hmmmm... I might group those day walks together into a week/fortnight programme of walks.

Cheers G
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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Hi
Try http://britishpilgrimage.co.uk/
Lots of options in UK but not all advertised / signed so well
Not sure where in UK you are?
I'm doing the Peak Pilgrimage next month
See http://www.peakpilgrimage.org.uk/
I've done St Cuthbert's Way
I've walked Winchester to Canterbury
The LDWA has lots of long walks and some of them have "history"
Where are you based?
Ned
Hi @nedspencer, thanks and I am in London..... Wow.....! that peak pilgrimage will be something I would love to do! :) I belong to several walking groups but we do not do religious walks although we do walks that might merge with pilgrims paths. So, yes, I have done some of those paths.... thanks for the websites, I did google but the peak pilgrimage did not come up. I will be in the peak district beginning of October for a weekend before I go away but we will be doing the peak walks,

Have fun and thanks again! Cheers G
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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I obtained both of these excellent books earlier this year (or maybe last) when researching the possibility of a long pilgrimage in Ireland. The Irish heritage website is also good.

The problem is taht these are all short walks, some of which are not accessible by public transport, so if you are a visitor, alone and don't have a car, forget it. A pity because these are important places of pilgrimage.
Hi @AJ, yes, I have heard before they were mainly short walks.... maybe there are some walking festival weeks in Ireland that one could attend and do those walks with like minded people. Such a shame if these routes are only accessible by car only.... :(
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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If you fancy a pilgrimage route a little longer in the tooth than the blessed Frances try the Ridgeway http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/ridgeway. A prehistoric camino to the greatest neolithic temple complex in the known world ;). Non-pagans welcome....

Edit: Frankly I think most of the 'information' on the National Trails website is inaccurate and appallingly presented but there are good resources for anyone seriously interested in this ancient way.
Hi @Tincatinker

Thanks.... yes, I have done parts of the Ridgeway several times around Avebury as well as the Ivinghoe Beacon in Tring... but I would love to do the whole 85 mile stretch in one go! I love those walks too and we even lunched at Wayland's Smithy! But we didnt have horses nor did we camp overnight! Yes, would love to do that ancient route in 1 go!
Cheers G
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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Not a pilgrimage but hiked England's Coast to Coast last year and had a great time. After struggling with less than perfect maps, found the AZ Adventure Series with 1:25,000 scale map booklets (which means they are blown up quite a bit larger). The trails were marked in beautiful red dots so it was just walking dot to dot! They do have accurate topography, roads, landmarks and such, too. I love maps and use them more than a GPS. This was the most user friendly I've ever seen.

It looks like they have the Lake District, Brecon Beacons, North York Moors, SW Coast Path, Peak District and the Ridgeway. I have no idea if there are pilgrimages in any of these areas but if so, I would use these maps. Looks like Amazon has at least the Coast to Coast one. If you click on the image, it will blow up so you can see the trail's red dots.
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Hi @Purple Backpack,

Coast to Coast is on my top list to do... have wanted to do this for a few months now, so will walk it, hopefully, soon. Yes, in the UK we have lots of beautiful places to walk..... we are extremely lucky!! :) Thanks, will be getting that book from Amazon!

Cheers G
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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Right now one of the forum members, Andy, is walking the Cistercian Way in Wales. He started last Sunday and will walk (I think) 700 miles in 6-7 weeks. He's also a priest, and posting a blog...
https://pilgrimpace.wordpress.com/

I think the Confraternity of Saint James has some information on British pilgrimages, and as mentioned above, the British pilgrimage website.
Thanks @julia-t , will contact the Confraternity of St James too

Cheers G
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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Hi @OTH86

I did the Thames Path quite a few years ago with one of the London walking groups - we walked it over a few weeks as we were all employed and in stressful jobs! I thinks we started off with about 70 walkers and we finished with half the number of original walkers - 15 of us completed the path and we awarded a gold medal! The rest had silver and bronze...

Thames Path is a level (flat) walk, no hills and is not strenous at all..... it is about 190 miles as we started from Gravesend and walked to the Source of the Thames in Gloucestershire. It is an easy walk, and one gets to see beautiful and parts of luxurious London! It is not exactly a pilgrimage but walking through London is quite an eye opener... with its rich history. You also pass other big cities too like Oxford, Windsor, Reading ...

We stayed in hotels along the way, and the towns are all accessible by train. It is fun, and I fully recommend it!
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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@AcrossTheWater3008 -

For Ireland, here is a site for the better known Holy Walks: http://www.heritagecouncil.ie/landscape/initiatives/the-pilgrim-paths/tochar-phadraig/

My wife and I have climbed the Croagh Patrick; no time time to do the walk from Ballintubber then but will pick it up later. (Those of you who remember the walk from Cruz de Ferro down to Acebo might not believe that climbing up and down the Croagh is an order of magnitude worse. Seriously!)

Not holy walks but still quite enjoyable are the Dingle Way (coming to be known as the "Kerry Camino") and any of the day hikes around the English Lake District.

I would get the OS maps for the Dingle Way from here: http://www.dingleway.com/trail-maps/index.php

The guide book sold from the site is pretty well dated. Good for overall briefing on what is there, the instructions for walking not so much. But, have no fear, the path is extremely well marked.

For updated information on any of the Irish walks, there seem to be lots of regional walking clubs that you could consult for information via the web. (Wish that I had known before going.:()

The walks are beautiful, the local food and brews excel but the best memory for the beloved and I were just how great the people were. Good heavens - the friendliness, humor and helpfulness were off the charts!

I highly recommend!

B

Hi @simply B

Thanks for great information and wonderful endorsement! Will definitely consult the walking clubs when I plan to go!

Cheers G
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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I have 2 guide books on pilgrimages in England by Revd. John N. Merrill:
London to Canterbury
London to Walsingham.
He has written lots of others, have a look :)

http://m.johnmerrillwalkguides.co.uk

PS I have only walked to Canterbury, not yet to Walsingham!
Hi Dominique

Thanks!! Great information.... what I was looking for! Hoping to walk from Saltwood Castle to Canterbury this weekend... :)

Cheers G
 

AlwynWellington

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The replies above make fascinating and almost mirror a certain political event in the UK a little over two months ago.

With roots in the up lands (and capital) of Scotland as well as northern Devon I am left with the impression, reading the posts above, that Christianity (and related pilgrimages) has no existence in those places.

Can someone, with knowledge, please redress the balance so far as walking pilgrimages are concerned?
 

HeidiL

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Not at all a pilgrim path - but we walked from Newcastle to Cardiff along Hadrian's Wall a few years ago and loved it. There are companies that set you up with hotels, B&Bs etc, that was rather useful.

I suppose it COULD be a pilgrim path if you're a worshipper of the old Roman gods - there were lots and lots of Roman forts, complete with temples, on the way.
 

Pato777

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Hi

I am interested in doing some pilgrimages within the UK and Ireland in the future. I have walked some routes around Canterbury.

If anyone know of any good guide books of these routes, or easy (dont understand ordinance maps) maps, or point me to websites, walking groups etc would be most appreciated.

Cheers G
Te Wicklow way outside Dublin is good, the Sheepshead Peninsula in Cork is good too, not sure if you could call them pilgrim routes but they are spectacular.
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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@HeidiL thank you... I am very interested in doing the Hadrian s Wall... we did discussed it in a cafe in Santiago but the people I was with were interested in pilgrimages or Scotland s West Highlands...

Hadrian s Wall and Coast to Coast have been on my list for quite a while now!! :(

@Pato777 ... will explore that option too when I plan my Ireland pilgrim walks... enjoy Dublin s culinary and brewery delights too - will be something to think about ... what a combination to look forward to! :)
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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The other walk (?pilgrimage) I know about is an 830 mile walk by Ajahn Amaro, Theravadian Buddhist monk, currently the abbot of Amaravati Monastery.... in 1983, he walked the Long Road with a companion from Cithhurst monastery in Sussex to Harnham Vihara in Nortumberland. He documented the walk, with maps etc in his book Tudong - The Long Walk North.. if anybody is interested..
 

timr

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The problem is that these are all short walks, some of which are not accessible by public transport, so if you are a visitor, alone and don't have a car, forget it. A pity because these are important places of pilgrimage.
Yes, I am sorry to say that is true. I live, by appointment, not by choice, in very rural Ireland, in an area of outstanding natural beauty. I am originally from Liverpool and a "city person." I often find myself longing for the whiff of diesel, the scream of a police siren, the bustle of a crowded pavement and the beautiful sound of the bin lorry. (This is a minority view.) What I have is green fields, purple mountains, foxes, pheasants and deer. Oh dear!
I would be constitutionally a committed user of public transport, and subscribe to the dictum "use it or lose it." But there is virtually none here to use. This I am sure must be true of other rural areas in other countries. I am fortunate to have the use of a car, but look forward to giving up my car and job one day. At present I would have to drive five miles to get a very sporadic slow bus to Dublin, from where I would then have to 'start again' to get anywhere else. I sometimes make a round trip of 40+ km to buy the Guardian on a Saturday.
It is immensely sad that while the pilgrimpath.ie group are making efforts to delineate, mark and promote a series of paths and have a 'credencial' and even award a 'compostela' for those who do them all, the most difficult part of the pilgrimage is getting to each of the sites.
Sorry to be gloomy. I am off to Glendalough (32km) to walk today, but by car:(
 
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AcrossTheWater3008

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UK has a wonderful network of public transport but there are pockets of places that are difficult to get to for walks... I suppose one could get to the nearest town and then take a cab to the walking spot, or walk... or hitch a ride, which I have done, in the past.
 
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Bradypus

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Too many and too often!
The other walk (?pilgrimage) I know about is an 830 mile walk by Ajahn Amaro, Theravadian Buddhist monk, currently the abbot of Amaravati Monastery.... in 1983, he walked the Long Road with a companion from Cithhurst monastery in Sussex to Harnham Vihara in Nortumberland. He documented the walk, with maps etc in his book Tudong - The Long Walk North.. if anybody is interested..
There was some discussion on this particular Buddhist form of pilgrimage a couple of months ago - including an account of a shorter walk along the Cotswold Way, as well as a very long journey through India. The book you mention and some others are available as free downloads and well worth reading for a different perspective on pilgrimage. Links and discussion in this thread:
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/a-buddhist-monks-blog-on-walking-in-england.41069/#post-416969
 

nedspencer

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Hi @nedspencer, thanks and I am in London..... Wow.....! that peak pilgrimage will be something I would love to do! :) I belong to several walking groups but we do not do religious walks although we do walks that might merge with pilgrims paths. So, yes, I have done some of those paths.... thanks for the websites, I did google but the peak pilgrimage did not come up. I will be in the peak district beginning of October for a weekend before I go away but we will be doing the peak walks,

Have fun and thanks again! Cheers G
If you google peak pilgrimage it should come up???
http://www.peakpilgrimage.org.uk/
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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@Bradypus

Thanks for the link! Brilliant! I met Ajahn Manapo whilst I was at a retreat at Forest Hermitage a few years ago - such a soft spoken and kind man! I understand he returned from Thailand a couple of years ago..
 

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@OTH86

Hi Terry, if you are walking the Thames Path, you could get to Biarritz from Stansted quite cheaply (I think it was £19 if nabbed early!) by Ryanair... or you could fly from Gatwick too... I paid £74 one way, as it was easier for me to get to Gatwick, but if you got the ticket early, Gatwick to Biarritz could be about £60 ny Easyjet. Alternatively you could take the Eurotunnel shuttle to Paris and onwards...

I would say your biggest expense whilst in London would be food, accommodation and train fares within UK itself...

Do let me know if you need further information.. G
 

Tincatinker

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Lots ;0)
we even lunched at Wayland's Smithy! But we didn't have horses nor did we camp overnight!
I have slept the night at Waylands Smithy - well I guess 'slept' is using the term a little loosely but it was an interesting night. I've rough-camped the Ridgeway a few times - easily enough done - though there is plenty of B&B & pub accommodation not far off-route.

I've also tried to link the Peddars Way (Pedlar's Way - as in salt pedlars) to the Ridgeway. Not entirely successfully but I am convinced that their were trade and pilgrimage routes from the North Sea coasts down to Avebury, Silbury, Stonehenge et al. It just needs all that time I never quite seem to have to cover the ground and find the natural lines of passage.
 

julia-t

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Apart from the link to the glorious account of the young Buddhist monk walking the Cotswold Way, there has been no mention of this 100mile walk, probably because it is considered relatively new.
But part of it follows an ancient (prehistoric?) route linking Iron Age hill fortresses, from Leckhampton to Haresfield.
There is an old pilgrimage route on some maps from Droitwich to Bristol - the old Roman Saltway. This 'ridgeway' crosses the Cotswold Way - perhaps at Saltridge Hill near Sheepscombe.
And not far away from the Cotswold Way is Laurie Lee's village of Slad. Last week I walked an ancient hollow-way named King Charles's Way; the threatened king rode along it during the Civil War while travelling to Painswick (a small market town through which the Cotswold Way passes) - the church tower still bears the cannon-ball scars.
The Cotswold Way may not be a pilgrimage, but it is certainly worth considering if you want a challenging walk: so many steep hills!
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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@Tincatinker , @julia-t .... I love the Ridgeway and, the Cotswolds.... I think I must have walked most of Wiltshire, Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire........ , the beauty and the history is staggering.... I think, maybe we should form a UK pilgrimage club (dont think there is such a club!) and pool together to do these wonderful walks.... sigh........soooo many walks but soooo little time!

Last year, there was a London to Glastonbury Peace Pilgrimage to celebrate HH the Dalai Lama s 80 th birthday which I didn't attend as I was dealing with a deadline at work!

@Dael thanks for that info....! It goes into my action file!

Cheers, Ginette
 

AlwynWellington

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@Dael, thank you

I've just read an online review of Yeoman's book. And I am in the process of ordering one from Amazon UK.

Conscious that Caledonia got (the Christian) faith long before those a bit further south, I googled "pilgrimage in Scotland". The three links below are from the first page of what was found. And the first link below seems most relevant to walking today.

http://www.scotlandspilgrimjourneys.com/

http://www.medievalists.net/2014/04/09/researchers-trace-medieval-pilgrimage-route-scotland/

http://www.scottishheritagehub.com/content/443-pilgrimage-medieval-scotland

From a brief scan:
  • A pilgrimage from Edinburgh to Whithorn and S Ninian's monastery; and
  • A pilgrimage from Melrose Abbey to Lindisfarne and from thence to Durham to the final resting place of the Scot S Cuthbert (who was very much taken to heart by the northern English);
both look distinct possibilities.
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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@Dael, thank you

I've just read an online review of Yeoman's book. And I am in the process of ordering one from Amazon UK.

Conscious that Caledonia got (the Christian) faith long before those a bit further south, I googled "pilgrimage in Scotland". The three links below are from the first page of what was found. And the first link below seems most relevant to walking today.

http://www.scotlandspilgrimjourneys.com/

http://www.medievalists.net/2014/04/09/researchers-trace-medieval-pilgrimage-route-scotland/

http://www.scottishheritagehub.com/content/443-pilgrimage-medieval-scotland

From a brief scan:
  • A pilgrimage from Edinburgh to Whithorn and S Ninian's monastery; and
  • A pilgrimage from Melrose Abbey to Lindisfarne and from thence to Durham to the final resting place of the Scot S Cuthbert (who was very much taken to heart by the northern English);
both look distinct possibilities.
@AlwynWellington

Such brilliant information! Thank you! Will have a good look when I do my Scotland pilgrimages!

Cheers G
 

Alan Davies

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An interesting walk I did was from Hampton Court to Canterbury. Thames Path in two days to Erith. Then Darent Valley Walk to Sevenoaks (The ferry to Dartford closed in c 1200)! Then Pilgrim's Way to Canterbury in three days. Info at www.ldwa.org.uk.
If you prefer the wind ( and some rain) try the Llyn Peninsular Walk www.llyn.info/info/walking. Stunning cliff top views of Bardsey Island, Ynys Enlli in Welsh, the legendary "Island of 20,000 saints".
 

Bradypus

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"...If you prefer the wind ( and some rain) try the Llyn Peninsular Walk www.llyn.info/info/walking. Stunning cliff top views of Bardsey Island, Ynys Enlli in Welsh, the legendary "Island of 20,000 saints"...

Or perhaps the North Wales Pilgrim Way which runs from Holywell to Ynys Enlli? (or at least to Aberdaron which is about as close as you get without a boat or swimming :) )
http://www.pilgrims-way-north-wales.org/
 
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Jacobus

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Hi

I am interested in doing some pilgrimages within the UK and Ireland in the future. I have walked some routes around Canterbury.

If anyone know of any good guide books of these routes, or easy (dont understand ordinance maps) maps, or point me to websites, walking groups etc would be most appreciated.

Cheers G
Good Morning!

I am a pilgrim. I also dabble in genaealogy. Sometime in the not too distant future I will combine the 2 endeavours.

I have been able to trace both sides of my family to England with birth, death, marriage, baptismal certificates and various other govt documents such as military, immigration, emigration and census records.

The results of my investigations have led to a vast number of addresses, churches, graveyards, villages, businesses, ports and other locations.

I am currently working through this rather large list to determine routes. These routes to include as many significant locations as possible.

The skeleton of my family pilgrimage so far looks like this
Preston to Liverpool to Sheffield (Trans Pennine)
I will then take the train to Winchester and walk the North Downs Way to Canterbury with numerous side trips eg Tunbridge Wells and numerous Greater London locations. Once at Canterbury I will go to Dovet to join the South Downs Way back to Winchester.

Due to its nature this will not be a continuous walk and it will involve several multiple night stays.

Planning is in the very early stages as my lack of English geographical knowledge and the village name changes over time are causing me fits.

All of the above to say that pilgrimages can be made for reasons other than religion and needn't be defined as a recognizable route on a map, have standard time restraints, singular purpose, shelter limitations etc.

There are numerous on line resources to provide huge amounts of information about any line between 2 places. This forum provides the voices of experience as an adjunct to the many other sources of information available and IMHO should not be seen as the definitive answer to any pilgrimage question.

Did I ramble?

Cheers
Jim
 

Sheena

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C de F (2015), P.Coastal (2016), Ingles (2017), Senda Littoral (2018), CP Lisbon - Coimbra (2019)
Books that might inspire you -
Pilgrim Paths In Ireland - John G O'Dwyer
Donegal, Sligo & Leitrim Walking Guide - Adrian Hendroff
East of Ireland Walks - Lenny Antonelli
Connemara & Mayo Walking Guide - Paul Phelan
Ireland's Wild Atlantic Way - Helen Fairbairn

All these books have been published by The Collins Press
Enquiries - enquiries@collinspress.ie
or by post to
The Collins Press, West Link Park, Doughcloyne, Wilton, Cork. T12 N5EF. Republic of Ireland
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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Wow...! Lots of information.... I have been looking at all the websites cited above, and am most impressed!! As I will be in Derbyshire walking soon, I might do the Peak Pilgrimage too!! Really excited - I had not realised there were soooo many routes in the UK/Ireland!

Thanks, folks!

@Jacobus, that is fascinating! Let us know how it goes! Reminds me of the TV programme "Who do you think you are" as it traces participants roots.... very interesting!

Cheers, G
 

markgrubb

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As preparation for the Camino Frances next week I did the Way of St Andrews, a newish pilgrims route of 100km from Edinburgh, my home town, to St Andrews. I did it in stages on days off work by public transport. It has some rather lovely coastal scenery http://www.thewayofstandrews.com/ In part it uses existing coastal paths and the last 26km section was not particularly well marked.
There is also information about 5 other pilgrims ways in Scotland http://www.thewayofstandrews.com/route/routes-and-photos/
The St Cuthberts Way, also 100km, links Melrose with its famous abbey and Holy island in Northumberland. A truly beautiful walk. http://stcuthbertsway.info/
There is general information about Scottish pilgrims routes here as Alwyn mentioned http://www.scotlandspilgrimjourneys.com/pilgrim-journeys/ I have walked most of the Lothian and Lammermuir walk. It has some stunning coastal scenery especially in the Berwickshire section. It uses paths of the John Muir Way and Berwickshire coastal trail
 
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AcrossTheWater3008

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There is a summer pilgrimage from Winchester cathedral to Canterbury cathedral on 12 August 2017 ending on the August bank holiday. It is, I understand, organised by the Dorking group in the Diocese of Arundel and Brighton. The cost, I have been told will be about 250£, but am unsure what is included. Please contact me if you wish to hv the contact details. There is a weekend reunion of past, present and future pilgrims 21 - 23 October 16 wt a 12 mile walk on saturday. The website is www.thepilgrims.org.uk
 

Michael Caleigh

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Thank you all for those inspirational posts. I am very interested in the South Downs Pilgrimage as this is my usual stomping ground. I will be in contact with them and see if I can help. Get´s the boots on and walks to Ditchling Beacon to enjoy the views.
 
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If you fancy a pilgrimage route a little longer in the tooth than the blessed Frances try the Ridgeway http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/ridgeway. A prehistoric camino to the greatest neolithic temple complex in the known world ;). Non-pagans welcome....

Edit: Frankly I think most of the 'information' on the National Trails website is inaccurate and appallingly presented but there are good resources for anyone seriously interested in this ancient way.
Cicerone publish a guide to the Ridgeway. And don't forget the Icknield Way. There is an "Icknield Way Association" which publishes a guide to this route.

The Mary Michael Pilgrimage includes sections of both the Ridgeway and the Icknield Way. I walked this one in 2015.
 

Lucy Longpath

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"...If you prefer the wind ( and some rain) try the Llyn Peninsular Walk www.llyn.info/info/walking. Stunning cliff top views of Bardsey Island, Ynys Enlli in Welsh, the legendary "Island of 20,000 saints"...

Or perhaps the North Wales Pilgrim Way which runs from Holywell to Ynys Enlli? (or at least to Aberdaron which is about as close as you get without a boat or swimming :) )
http://www.pilgrims-way-north-wales.org/
North Wales Pilgrims Way is a beautiful little camino. Little in terms of not taking many days; however, not in terms of the difficulty of the terrain or navigation. Lovely churches along the route and met some local residents who were very supportive of this Pilgrims Trail and some working hard to promote it.
 

nedspencer

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Hi @nedspencer, thanks and I am in London..... Wow.....! that peak pilgrimage will be something I would love to do! :) I belong to several walking groups but we do not do religious walks although we do walks that might merge with pilgrims paths. So, yes, I have done some of those paths.... thanks for the websites, I did google but the peak pilgrimage did not come up. I will be in the peak district beginning of October for a weekend before I go away but we will be doing the peak walks,

Have fun and thanks again! Cheers G

Here is link
http://www.peakpilgrimage.org.uk/
 

AcrossTheWater3008

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North Wales Pilgrims Way is a beautiful little camino. Little in terms of not taking many days; however, not in terms of the difficulty of the terrain or navigation. Lovely churches along the route and met some local residents who were very supportive of this Pilgrims Trail and some working hard to promote it.
Hi Lucy

I was hiking with The Ecumenical Hiking Group in North Wales in Aiugust for 2 weeks this year ... unforutnately I had to leave after a few days due to a family emergency . We slept in church halls, community centres etc and it was beautiful countryside the few days that I was with the group.

We started in Bangor via Holyhead to Bangor and then to Holywell - a total of 192 miles (but unfortunately I had to leave at Holyhead :(

Wonderful, beautiful country!
 

Lucy Longpath

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Frances (2015), Puy Way (2016), North Wales Pilgrims Way (2017), Camino Vezelay(2018) &(2019)
Hi Lucy

I was hiking with The Ecumenical Hiking Group in North Wales in Aiugust for 2 weeks this year ... unforutnately I had to leave after a few days due to a family emergency . We slept in church halls, community centres etc and it was beautiful countryside the few days that I was with the group.

We started in Bangor via Holyhead to Bangor and then to Holywell - a total of 192 miles (but unfortunately I had to leave at Holyhead :(

Wonderful, beautiful country!
Hello
What a shame you had to leave early! It sounds like you were having a lovely walk. We have also walked some parts of the coastal path and North Wales Path in Wales from Caernarfon to Conwy earlier this year which was nice. We walked the Anglesey Coastal path too a few years ago and enjoyed that too. Wales is a lovely place to walk.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances(2006) portugues(2013)San Salvador (2017)
What a feast of information! When I clear the desk I will have plenty to look up and enjoy, virtually, this winter. When I clear the desk... well, I can shove aside some of the junk, have a cup of tea and work my way through the links in this thread. If I clear the desk I will have no excuse for not dusting...
 

Dael

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Cycled from Scotland,walked Francias, walked V.D.L.P, winter on Francais, stroll on Englaise
To add to the mix - I recently ‘found’ the "British Pilgrimage Trust". Their website contains masses of information on British pilgrimage routes and, if required, downloadable GPS tracks (with info on how to download). I am aiming to walk St. Columba’s Way from Iona to St Andrews later this year.
A new dedicated path opens this Spring from Culross/North Queensfeery to St. Andrews.
 

Vince1958

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There is a St James Way which covers 112k between Reading and Southampton. CSJ has the guidebook. I will be walking this at the end of May.
 

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