gerardcarey
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I'm just about convinced as to the umbrella idea but carrying one for my autumn Caminos seems an overkill when I've only had a couple of days of decent rain, and that in Galicia of course.IMHO the best rain Jacket its not a rain jacket at all but indeed an umbrella, I have yet to see a bicegrino using onezzotte
they are also useful for sunny days as well.I'm just about convinced as to the umbrella idea but carrying one for my autumn Caminos seems an overkill when I've only had a couple of days of decent rain, and that in Galicia of course.
Yup.
I'm an umbrella girl.
I walk dry and I walk 10 degrees cooler in the shade.
I'm looking even tho I'm a confirmed ALTUS Poncho guy, still trying to solve the problem whereby water wicks down my socks into my boots!
Now look caminojen425. I can't concentrate on what appears at first glance to be a simple and elegant solution when I'm assailed on all sides by cultist umbrellorites. I'd best first go and get a glass of tonic. A large one.what about gaiters? i was planning to take some along.
And here's me thinking I'd start a thread on cyclist's wet weather gear.
IVAR! IVAR!
We've been invaded and overwhelmed by mad umbrella weilding fanatics.
Their intention apears to bludgeon our senses with their loud logic.
They will brook no disagreement.
I fear for my sanity.
I wore gaiters as well as Altus when in heavy rain; worked well.Having bought my down sleeping bag from a supplier to the cycling fraternity my mind turned to thoughts of their rainware. "Who," I thought, "would know more about keeping dry, warm, and comfortable than these cycling folks? What with their long distance racing and on/off road touring in often extreme conditions."
May I submit for your consideration a couple of simple, less expensive examples from my supplier.
Note the quality, weight, and price of both the jackets and pants. Pants are viewable by ticking the unselected box under the photograph.
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...g-rain-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket.html
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...n-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket-1669.html
My suggestion is to check out the products available from your cycling suppliers.
Regards
Gerard
PS. I'm looking even tho I'm a confirmed ALTUS Poncho guy, still trying to solve the problem whereby water wicks down my socks into my boots!
Hi folks,Having bought my down sleeping bag from a supplier to the cycling fraternity my mind turned to thoughts of their rainware. "Who," I thought, "would know more about keeping dry, warm, and comfortable than these cycling folks? What with their long distance racing and on/off road touring in often extreme conditions."
May I submit for your consideration a couple of simple, less expensive examples from my supplier.
Note the quality, weight, and price of both the jackets and pants. Pants are viewable by ticking the unselected box under the photograph.
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...g-rain-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket.html
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...n-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket-1669.html
My suggestion is to check out the products available from your cycling suppliers.
Regards
Gerard
PS. I'm looking even tho I'm a confirmed ALTUS Poncho guy, still trying to solve the problem whereby water wicks down my socks into my boots!
Hi folks,
I'm taking gaiters and rain pants and a silly light poncho and a rain jacket. No umbrella. What are we, John Cleese? This is my first Camino so let's see what happens. I trained in Sydney for many months in both fair weather and foul. My boots got a bit wet once, then I tried the gaiters. I might try rigging a piece of plastic tucked under the front of the gaiters if things get torrential. I've heard that gaiters keep the mud off ones pants so the pantaloons need washing less frequently, so gaiters can be useful after the rain has stopped and mud continues. I can believe that in hot weather, sweat/condensation runs down inside of pants/rain pants into ones boots. Stretchy bits at gaiter tops might alleviate that.
Anyway, as usual on this forum there are as many solutions as there are walkers. It's just that some don't mind getting wet and some are in complete control of their own microclimate and their sanity like yours droolly.
And that's enough from me. Buen Camino, - Mike
Having bought my down sleeping bag from a supplier to the cycling fraternity my mind turned to thoughts of their rainware. "Who," I thought, "would know more about keeping dry, warm, and comfortable than these cycling folks? What with their long distance racing and on/off road touring in often extreme conditions."
May I submit for your consideration a couple of simple, less expensive examples from my supplier.
Note the quality, weight, and price of both the jackets and pants. Pants are viewable by ticking the unselected box under the photograph.
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...g-rain-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket.html
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...n-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket-1669.html
My suggestion is to check out the products available from your cycling suppliers.
Regards
Gerard
PS. I'm looking even tho I'm a confirmed ALTUS Poncho guy, still trying to solve the problem whereby water wicks down my socks into my boots!
Well I do intend to experiment and mix and match a bit. I don't expect to be actually wearing everything at once. Unless I try to walk underwater here and there. I trained all through Australian summer and kept cool when it rained. I often walked 4 hours at a time. I shall live and learn. BTW, I'm hoping to lose some weight so an occasional sauna could be useful.Rain pants, gaiters, pancho and rain jacket? Ok you will survive the rain and drawn in your own sweatI bet your boots are waterproof too right? hahaha I stick with my umbrella
zzotte
Tonic only! What about adding the gin?? I have the tonic and gin, not the other way around!!Now look caminojen425. I can't concentrate on what appears at first glance to be a simple and elegant solution when I'm assailed on all sides by cultist umbrellorites. I'd best first go and get a glass of tonic. A large one.
Now look caminojen425. I can't concentrate on what appears at first glance to be a simple and elegant solution when I'm assailed on all sides by cultist umbrellorites. I'd best first go and get a glass of tonic. A large one.
Breathable rain pants with full length zips to adjust the ventilation. I walk with the zips open and just the poppers closed at the knees and ankles. That's fine for a drizzly day. When the rain comes horizontal you can quickly close the zips.I can believe that in hot weather, sweat/condensation runs down inside of pants/rain pants into ones boots. Stretchy bits at gaiter tops might alleviate that.
The tonic is the gin! The quantity depending specifically on the severity of the pain. Our American brothers and sisters having long ago discovered that the over use of additives equates to a decrease in effectiveness.Tonic only! What about adding the gin?? I have the tonic and gin, not the other way around!!
I knew that!!! But manners prevented me from saying that. Good luck. I am in the middle of a very large ---tonic of course!!The tonic is the gin! The quantity depending specifically on the severity of the pain. Our American brothers and sisters having long ago discovered that the over use of additives equates to a decrease in effectiveness.
We have done caminos in winter, spring and autumn, so have definitely needed rain gear. What to use?? We hate the poncho thing - sweaty and with that annoying hood restricting your movement and rain splashing on your face - ugh!. So instead this works (for us) perfectly: an Akubra hat - it's the Aussie version of a stetson, ie a wide-brimmed felt hat, it's great in both rain and sun, keeps your face dry even in heavy rain, and nothing drips down your neck. It is almost indestructible, cool and comfortable. Team that with a breathable 2 layer goretex jacket, very lightweight rain pants and short gaiters and we have happily splashed our way through many very wet days.
Cheers Pi Wakawaka,Brilliant, whoever sidetracked this convo... because I had completely forgotten to pack my gaiters! With only one week until I fly out of NZ...
Cheers!
Cheers Pi Wakawaka,
Hope, no, I'm sure you'll have a great time.
Buen Camino.
Regards
Gerard.
PS...That lovely little fantail looks like he has an inbuilt umbrella.
Evolution. It's a wonderful thing eh?
And here's me thinking I'd start a thread on cyclist's wet weather gear.
IVAR! IVAR!
We've been invaded and overwhelmed by mad umbrella weilding fanatics.
Their intention apears to bludgeon our senses with their loud logic.
They will brook no disagreement.
I fear for my sanity.
We have done caminos in winter, spring and autumn, so have definitely needed rain gear. What to use?? We hate the poncho thing - sweaty and with that annoying hood restricting your movement and rain splashing on your face - ugh!. So instead this works (for us) perfectly: an Akubra hat - it's the Aussie version of a stetson, ie a wide-brimmed felt hat, it's great in both rain and sun, keeps your face dry even in heavy rain, and nothing drips down your neck. It is almost indestructible, cool and comfortable. Team that with a breathable 2 layer goretex jacket, very lightweight rain pants and short gaiters and we have happily splashed our way through many very wet days.
I tried that with a spray can of waterproofing from an outdoor supplier. Hopeless it was.The Ferrino looks awesome @Middo ! I wonder if they are sold in SJPP...hmm...
I just have my rain jacket and...... (next bit copied and pasted from another post I replied to).
I took my pair of zip off pants and I waterproofed them. I used to work in a place that did the treatment for couches etc, same as scotchguard...
I drenched them... those are now my wet weather pants, whether long or zipped off... only the rain on the Way will tell me of my success or failure... I do know that the waterproofing works, but the test is yet to come ... hahahahahaha.... it shall all be part of the journey!
Will do. This stuff I put in sprayer and coated. It attaches to the fibres much the same as permethrin does. I'll let you know in a couple of weeksI tried that with a spray can of waterproofing from an outdoor supplier. Hopeless it was.
Let us know how the scotchguard equivalent works,
Regards
Gerard
I have to disagree. I use a pair of Berghaus Paclite Goretex overtrousers which weigh 218g. and pack very small. I have used them on the Camino on rainy days when the temperatures were in the high 20's and the heat was not a problem. They are also useful as an extra layer when the weather is particularly cold.Rain pants weigh too much and take up too much room in the pack. Also, a pain to put on/take off. And no matter what they're made of, they'll be hot after a short time. The answer: a rain kilt. Super light weight, takes up practically no space, and can be put on/taken off easily.
Having bought my down sleeping bag from a supplier to the cycling fraternity my mind turned to thoughts of their rainware. "Who," I thought, "would know more about keeping dry, warm, and comfortable than these cycling folks? What with their long distance racing and on/off road touring in often extreme conditions."
May I submit for your consideration a couple of simple, less expensive examples from my supplier.
Note the quality, weight, and price of both the jackets and pants. Pants are viewable by ticking the unselected box under the photograph.
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...g-rain-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket.html
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...n-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket-1669.html
My suggestion is to check out the products available from your cycling suppliers.
Regards
Gerard
PS. I'm looking even tho I'm a confirmed ALTUS Poncho guy, still trying to solve the problem whereby water wicks down my socks into my boots!
Hi Meggsy, I got lucky when someone in Melbourne posted their Altus for sale on this forum. The gaiters I bought areCathy where did you buy the Altus? I keep changing my mind on rain gear and am disappointed the short gaiters are not actually waterproof. Which ones did you go for? Thanks.
Care with eVent, Kanga. I had an eVent Packa (I know you don't want a Packa) - I was practically dripping every rainy day, despite the eVent material and fully opened pit zips.I also think the long poncho/raincoat (mine is an Altus) are the best so far, but I'd really like one in eVent fabric and with pit zips. If anyone finds one, please let me know. And no, a Packa will not do - too short and too tight for me.
It really doesn't matter whether the jacket is eVent or Goretex, these membranes only transpire vapour. Once your sweat collects as fluid, you can slow down or resign yourself to being wet on the inside as well as the outside!Care with eVent, Kanga. I had an eVent Packa (I know you don't want a Packa) - I was practically dripping every rainy day, despite the eVent material and fully opened pit zips.
Hi all. I guess this the correct area for this info. I contacted the Barrabes Sports store in Madrid to inquire about Altus ponchos. This is their response.
"unfortunately we do not carry the Altus Atmospheric Poncho anymore. However we do have two similar Poncho´s that you might be interested in:
Ferrino R-Cloak Poncho
Tatonka Poncho 2
These two ponchos have the same or higher waterproofing capacity as the Altus ponchos and we recommend them for anyone planning on walking El Camino."
If anyone has any info on where I can purchase an Altus in either Madrid or Seville, please let me know.
Thanks
Hi all, The problem I see with both the Ferrino and the Tatonka ponchos is the arms. What happens to that last 6 inches of arm that is exposed? If you are holding a walking pole, you have to keep your hand out and you end up getting that area of sleeve drenched!! At least the old Altus had proper sleeves that went right down to the wrist. And what I liked about the Altus is that it closed down the front and it it stopped raining for a bit you could open up and get some air in for a bit. Sometimes I would put it over my head and not use the sleeves and just tie them in front of me and use it to keep nuisance rain off without getting steamy inside.Hi all. I guess this the correct area for this info. I contacted the Barrabes Sports store in Madrid to inquire about Altus ponchos. This is their response.
"unfortunately we do not carry the Altus Atmospheric Poncho anymore. However we do have two similar Poncho´s that you might be interested in:
Ferrino R-Cloak Poncho
Tatonka Poncho 2
These two ponchos have the same or higher waterproofing capacity as the Altus ponchos and we recommend them for anyone planning on walking El Camino."
If anyone has any info on where I can purchase an Altus in either Madrid or Seville, please let me know.
Thanks
Kanga what brand of umbrella do you use? I recently bought a Helinox with a view to using it on this September's VDLP. However I'm concerned it might be tricky to attach, and keep attached to my Aarn pack. So the search continues!Thanks guys, and yes, my Goretex jacket got discarded for the same reason. Sounds like making do with the Altus, which at least is big enough to allow some air flow, and can be pulled on and off easily (it hangs off my pack). I do use a handsfree trekking umbrella which is the best, as long as it is not too windy.
No perfect answer.
Thanks Kanga! I'll try it out asap.View attachment 24801 @Richo I bought a Euroschirm handsfree and had it sent from the US - the handsfree model is not available in Australia. It is much heavier than I would like, but I still take it on Camino. If you already have a hiking umbrella, it is pretty easy to make it handsfree. With your pack on, put the umbrella canopy up and thread the handle and shaft down through the small carrying loop at the top of your Aarn pack (behind your head) and then pull the handle to the front over a shoulder and attach the cord on the handle either to the waistband of your pack or wherever feels comfortable. Adjust the height and angle until it is comfortable, maybe tucking the handle under a front pack - experiment a bit til it is comfortable. I did post a YouTube video once showing how to do it - I'll see if I can find it. In the meantime here's a photo of me with the Euroschirm and my friend Robyn with a normal hikking umbrella attached as I've suggested.
Of course, to each his own, but as an ultralight hiker I begrudge ounces.I have to disagree. I use a pair of Berghaus Paclite Goretex overtrousers which weigh 218g. and pack very small. I have used them on the Camino on rainy days when the temperatures were in the high 20's and the heat was not a problem. They are also useful as an extra layer when the weather is particularly cold.
Thanks Cathy - i had bought some on ebay but they were about as waterproof as a cotton tshirt!! Even tho they stated waterproof. I assume you have checked yours?? Will purchase if so. Getting close now.Hi Meggsy, I got lucky when someone in Melbourne posted their Altus for sale on this forum. The gaiters I bought are
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-Water...360005?hash=item542b19bd45:g:pXIAAOSwWTRW07wH
They are waterproof and high enough to go under the Altus and cheap enough that If I think I won't use them I can ditch them. I also chose these because they seemed to be the lightest I could find in waterproof fabric.
In the fall they carried both the Altus and the Ferrino at the store in SJPdP. They are almost identical. I wore one and my friend wore the other, we didn't notice a difference, but we did LOVE them.Cathy where did you buy the Altus? I keep changing my mind on rain gear and am disappointed the short gaiters are not actually waterproof. Which ones did you go for? Thanks.
Thank you for everyones input - i have decided i may get wet, i may be uncomfortable but i shall go with what i have and walk the camino regardless. See you there.In the fall they carried both the Altus and the Ferrino at the store in SJPdP. They are almost identical. I wore one and my friend wore the other, we didn't notice a difference, but we did LOVE them.
Hi Meggsy, mmm, I haven't tested them, you will know how much rain we have had here in recent months....not !! I might have to figure a way to try them out somehowThanks Cathy - i had bought some on ebay but they were about as waterproof as a cotton tshirt!! Even tho they stated waterproof. I assume you have checked yours?? Will purchase if so. Getting close now.
Sounds like you got stitched up Meggsy!!Thanks Cathy - i had bought some on ebay but they were about as waterproof as a cotton tshirt!! Even tho they stated waterproof. I assume you have checked yours?? Will purchase if so. Getting close now.
Kanga, have you had any problems with the umbrella blowing about or turning inside out in the wind on your Caminos? I have friends (from the Camino) who swear by their umbrellas - I'm still a little uncertainView attachment 24801 @Richo I bought a Euroschirm handsfree and had it sent from the US - the handsfree model is not available in Australia. It is much heavier than I would like, but I still take it on Camino. If you already have a hiking umbrella, it is pretty easy to make it handsfree. With your pack on, put the umbrella canopy up and thread the handle and shaft down through the small carrying loop at the top of your Aarn pack (behind your head) and then pull the handle to the front over a shoulder and attach the cord on the handle either to the waistband of your pack or wherever feels comfortable. Adjust the height and angle until it is comfortable, maybe tucking the handle under a front pack - experiment a bit til it is comfortable. I did post a YouTube video once showing how to do it - I'll see if I can find it. In the meantime here's a photo of me with the Euroschirm and my friend Robyn with a normal hikking umbrella attached as I've suggested.
Having bought my down sleeping bag from a supplier to the cycling fraternity my mind turned to thoughts of their rainware. "Who," I thought, "would know more about keeping dry, warm, and comfortable than these cycling folks? What with their long distance racing and on/off road touring in often extreme conditions."
May I submit for your consideration a couple of simple, less expensive examples from my supplier.
Note the quality, weight, and price of both the jackets and pants. Pants are viewable by ticking the unselected box under the photograph.
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...g-rain-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket.html
https://www.velogear.com.au/clothin...n-wear/original-cycling-rain-jacket-1669.html
My suggestion is to check out the products available from your cycling suppliers.
Regards
Gerard
PS. I'm looking even tho I'm a confirmed ALTUS Poncho guy, still trying to solve the problem whereby water wicks down my socks into my boots!
Hi Meggsy, I tried holding my gaiters under a fast flowing tap and no water penetrated the fabric. I'm sure it is possible some rain could get through the top where they gather around the calf but don't know how you could stop that with any of them. I think that my Altus is long enough to hopefully prevent that happening too much. The gaiters come to just below my knees.Thanks Cathy - i had bought some on ebay but they were about as waterproof as a cotton tshirt!! Even tho they stated waterproof. I assume you have checked yours?? Will purchase if so. Getting close now.
The rain in Spain very often comes with high gusts of wind. There’s no way you can keep an umbrella upright or yourself balanced with wind and rain pushing it all over the place. Umbrellas also crowds out other pilgrims and cyclists on the path. Umbrellas are good for the city but not hiking.
Ahh thats great because i ordered them! My previous ones didnt even hold up under a drizzle of water! Thank you for that reassurance!! Enjoy your Camino.Hi Meggsy, I tried holding my gaiters under a fast flowing tap and no water penetrated the fabric. I'm sure it is possible some rain could get through the top where they gather around the calf but don't know how you could stop that with any of them. I think that my Altus is long enough to hopefully prevent that happening too much. The gaiters come to just below my knees.
Kanga other people have expressed interest in the Euroschirm hands-free umbrella. Since your friend used a regular hiking umbrella, were you able to discern any appreciable difference in the ease of use? I can't find the specs on their webpage - how much does it weigh and does it fit into your Aarn pack? Cheers.View attachment 24801 @Richo I bought a Euroschirm handsfree and had it sent from the US - the handsfree model is not available in Australia. It is much heavier than I would like, but I still take it on Camino. If you already have a hiking umbrella, it is pretty easy to make it handsfree. With your pack on, put the umbrella canopy up and thread the handle and shaft down through the small carrying loop at the top of your Aarn pack (behind your head) and then pull the handle to the front over a shoulder and attach the cord on the handle either to the waistband of your pack or wherever feels comfortable. Adjust the height and angle until it is comfortable, maybe tucking the handle under a front pack - experiment a bit til it is comfortable. I did post a YouTube video once showing how to do it - I'll see if I can find it. In the meantime here's a photo of me with the Euroschirm and my friend Robyn with a normal hikking umbrella attached as I've suggested.
Thanks zzotte!Richo to answer your question have the full size and weights 11oz it attaches to aarn pack with no problems but I never tried with the front packs on
zzotte
Kanga, I so AGREE. An Altus in breathable fabric would be the perfect ticket! If I knew how to sew, we could start a gofundme company to make these for pilgrims.I also think the long poncho/raincoat (mine is an Altus) are the best so far, but I'd really like one in eVent fabric and with pit zips.
I think it is heavy compared to some other trekking umbrellas, and obviously much heavier than ordinary ultra light ones. Mine fits in the Aarn pack, but I have the Featherlite.
@Richo it is easier to use hands free - which is why I bought it.
That's my plan. I will have a EuroShirm handsfree, and I have reserved an Altus at the store in SJPdP. I much prefer an umbrella to wearing a hood, which I feel hampers my sight, plus I will use it for sun protection.
Oh, sorry, my umbrella is a Euroshcrim - handsfree, like this
My backpack is the Aarn Featherlite
The Euroschrim handsfree is not available anywhere in Australia, although some of their other models are. I imported it from the US.
View attachment 24801 @Richo I bought a Euroschirm handsfree and had it sent from the US - the handsfree model is not available in Australia. It is much heavier than I would like, but I still take it on Camino. If you already have a hiking umbrella, it is pretty easy to make it handsfree. With your pack on, put the umbrella canopy up and thread the handle and shaft down through the small carrying loop at the top of your Aarn pack (behind your head) and then pull the handle to the front over a shoulder and attach the cord on the handle either to the waistband of your pack or wherever feels comfortable. Adjust the height and angle until it is comfortable, maybe tucking the handle under a front pack - experiment a bit til it is comfortable. I did post a YouTube video once showing how to do it - I'll see if I can find it. In the meantime here's a photo of me with the Euroschirm and my friend Robyn with a normal hikking umbrella attached as I've suggested.
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