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Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#1
Fourth camino coming up and still undecided about which camino to tackle next but have also become a bit of a runner recently. Has anyone had experience of running parts of caminos?

I've reduced my essentials right down to almost nothing based on 3 caminos worth or experience, so no problem running with tiny runners' pack on my back etc. So maybe have option to run last 5, 10km (or a bit more depending on fitness) of non-mountainous section every otherday. i.e walk 20, run 5 or 10km, then walk 30 next day, repeat.

Will depend on time of year though (has to be early spring or late autumn due to temps etc.)

Has anyone attempted this? Done it? Drawbacks? Issues? Equipment? Rest days?
 

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Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#3
Thanks Athena! Totally forgot about that thread.
 

BoH

Never more than 7-8 kg on the back!
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2011, -13, Norte -15 and again sept -18.
#4
Fourth camino coming up and still undecided about which camino to tackle next but have also become a bit of a runner recently. Has anyone had experience of running parts of caminos?

I've reduced my essentials right down to almost nothing based on 3 caminos worth or experience, so no problem running with tiny runners' pack on my back etc. So maybe have option to run last 5, 10km (or a bit more depending on fitness) of non-mountainous section every otherday. i.e walk 20, run 5 or 10km, then walk 30 next day, repeat.

Will depend on time of year though (has to be early spring or late autumn due to temps etc.)

Has anyone attempted this? Done it? Drawbacks? Issues? Equipment? Rest days?
Sorry, but I have always thought that the Camino was a slow attraction? Like Yoga ....
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#5
BoH, sure. Been looking to combine two passions together tho!
 

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davebugg

DustOff: "When I have your wounded."
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
#6
Sorry, but I have always thought that the Camino was a slow attraction? Like Yoga ....
The Camino is enjoyed at the pace which suits the individual. :) One person's enjoyment at a slow pace, is another person's tediously boring slog.
 

Sailor

Donante Vitalicio
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Infinito
#7
Qualified long distance runner here and I choose not to run any part of the camino. However, I saw a man (young and strong) running with a loaded backpack after leaving Burgos. Buena suerte, y que la luz de Dios alumbre su camino.
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#8
Qualified long distance runner here and I choose not to run any part of the camino. However, I saw a man (young and strong) running with a loaded backpack after leaving Burgos. Buena suerte, y que la luz de Dios alumbre su camino.
Sailor, Got a half marathon in mid May so need to run whilst on camino to keep in shape. As I'm going on camino Feb/March I'll need a bit more gear than in warmer months so I'll maybe take my "big" 33l Osprey so can pack running shoes for training and eve wear. Reckon 5km every other evening at destination will keep me ticking over until get back home etc.

Buena suerte para ti también, y que tus dioses te acompañen.

Thanks for the feedback.
 

Sailor

Donante Vitalicio
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Infinito
#9
Mister Oravasaari thanks for the update and good luck with your Thirteen-Miler in May. Buena suerte, y que la luz de Dios alumbre su camino.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Past: Francés, Inglés, Fisterra/Muxia, Baztanés x2, Primitivo, Norte. 2018: Portugues.
#10
Sailor, Got a half marathon in mid May so need to run whilst on camino to keep in shape. As I'm going on camino Feb/March I'll need a bit more gear than in warmer months so I'll maybe take my "big" 33l Osprey so can pack running shoes for training and eve wear. Reckon 5km every other evening at destination will keep me ticking over until get back home etc.
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Hi @Oravasaari, you might find that you've no desire to run at the end of a day's walk. I contemplated bringing running shoes on one of my Caminos, thinking that I'd enjoy a run some evenings. I'm glad I didn't as it was the last think I wanted to do.

If you do most of the training for the HM before your Camino, you should have plenty of time to resume training for a May race when you get back. I've found that I can get back to running within a few days of returning from a walk. I've also found that hiking builds running strength and endurance - which more than compensates for a temporary loss of speed.

@timr might want to chime in here - he knows a lot about this stuff!
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#11
Hi @Oravasaari, you might find that you've no desire to run at the end of a day's walk. I contemplated bringing running shoes on one of my Caminos, thinking that I'd enjoy a run some evenings. I'm glad I didn't as it was the last think I wanted to do.

If you do most of the training for the HM before your Camino, you should have plenty of time to resume training for a May race when you get back. I've found that I can get back to running within a few days of returning from a walk. I've also found that hiking builds running strength and endurance - which more than compensates for a temporary loss of speed.

@timr might want to chime in here - he knows a lot about this stuff!
You are probably right! But as it will be my first half marathon I'm a bit of a slave to my training plan! I already take my Merrel Road Glove minimalist running shoes on camino as my evening footwear, so only need to take my skimpy running shorts too and I'm set should the urge bite. I'm accomplished at 30-40 km per day caminos so if I walk a short 15–20km every other day I think I might still be up for a quick 5km jog. Planning to go soon (end Feb, March time) si will be ideal jogging weather.
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#12
I was unable to get away to the Camino earlier in the year as planned and have since run my half marathon - but, I'm now able to go for a 2 week Camino June 13-27th Yipee! I plan to run/walk from Burgos and see how far I get (maybe to Ponferrada). Depending on how warm it is I'll likely walk 3-5km then run 2-3km repeats, only running every other day. I quite fancy just doing between 25-30 km/day so that I stay in touch with any camino buddies etc.
 
Camino(s) past & future
The Camino Frances 2005
The Portugese Camino 2014
The Camino Ingles Easter 2015
The Camino Ingles April 2016
The Camino del Norte/The Primitivo 2016
#13
Hi Oravasaari, thank you for the update. I hope your HM went well. I met a young Spanish man when I was walking the Camino Ingles, he was running the Camino. The young man ran past me and a little later, I met him in Bar Julia where he was taking a break and I just had to ask him about running the Camino. He had a tiny backpack with a change of clothes, a few toiletries and a towel. I'm a runner and it seems like a wonderful run.
All the best to you and buen camino
 
Camino(s) past & future
StJPdP/Santigo 18/9-16/10/17
Santiago/Muxia/Finisterre 18/10-22/10/17
Hendayne/Santiago 21/4-29/5/
#14
We are all distance runners and on the last 2 Caminos planned to run sections occasionally and run on rest days. Didn't happen on the Frances but got back into it straight after and were amazed how strong we felt. Didn't happen this time on the Norte but have had a couple of runs now we are in A Coruna and it was fine.
Mind you, we walk fast and on the uphills very strongly, and we cover a lot of distance (we had two 53km days on the Norte, which we didn't plan for but had no choice but to walk as taxis and buses aren't our choice) which keeps your stamina up. Saw runners on the Frances and watched enviously as they passed but saw no one run on the Norte this time. Go for it, take the running gear and enjoy the scenery. What better way to train for a marathon
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#15
Hi Oravasaari, thank you for the update. I hope your HM went well. I met a young Spanish man when I was walking the Camino Ingles, he was running the Camino. The young man ran past me and a little later, I met him in Bar Julia where he was taking a break and I just had to ask him about running the Camino. He had a tiny backpack with a change of clothes, a few toiletries and a towel. I'm a runner and it seems like a wonderful run.
All the best to you and buen camino
Yes, I'm really looking forward to it! Have an Osprey 5l running pack with 1l bladder. Total weight 1.3kg (2.3kg with full water bladder). Did a half marathon run 2k/walk 3k yesterday to test everything out and the pack is pretty unnoticable/snug and not too much bouncing around. Temperature was only 20 deg C, we will see how warmer temperatures affect the run v walk/cool down distances. If it's too hot one day I won't push it too much. On the run/walk days I'll start early and cover approx 25km in 3.5 hrs so should be "rehydrating" in the bar/cafe by midday!
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#16
We are all distance runners and on the last 2 Caminos planned to run sections occasionally and run on rest days. Didn't happen on the Frances but got back into it straight after and were amazed how strong we felt. Didn't happen this time on the Norte but have had a couple of runs now we are in A Coruna and it was fine.
Mind you, we walk fast and on the uphills very strongly, and we cover a lot of distance (we had two 53km days on the Norte, which we didn't plan for but had no choice but to walk as taxis and buses aren't our choice) which keeps your stamina up. Saw runners on the Frances and watched enviously as they passed but saw no one run on the Norte this time. Go for it, take the running gear and enjoy the scenery. What better way to train for a marathon
Yes, I'm hoping it will give me a good base for my marathon training. I'll report back on the experience for sure! If you are Strava app users you could follow me if you like (will upload run and walk data to there). PM me if so...
 
Camino(s) past & future
The Camino Frances 2005
The Portugese Camino 2014
The Camino Ingles Easter 2015
The Camino Ingles April 2016
The Camino del Norte/The Primitivo 2016
#17
I would like to hear how it works out walking and running so please keep us updated. I have thought about running the Camino Ingles and have my bag transported. I have never had my bag transported so it is a huge steep for me. Are you planning to do the Camino with only your 5 l Osprey running pack or are you bringing a bigger pack and having it transported?
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#18
I would like to hear how it works out walking and running so please keep us updated. I have thought about running the Camino Ingles and have my bag transported. I have never had my bag transported so it is a huge steep for me. Are you planning to do the Camino with only your 5 l Osprey running pack or are you bringing a bigger pack and having it transported?
Taking just the 5l pack, so running with everything I need on me (not very much!) After 3 long caminos I've slimmed the essentials down to almost nothing. Only taking a silk liner, one change of clothes, a shemagh for a towel, a waterproof jacket, plus the usual odds and sods. Total weight 1.3kg, 2.3kg when 1l water hydration system full.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (May 2015)
Camino Frances (2016-2018)
#19
As an ultra runner, and for my 50th birthday present (!!), I ran the CF in 2015 and had the most amazing time. Yes, a different experience from most but an intense and deeply spiritual experience nonetheless. I had a different Camino family every day ;) Incidentally, I didn’t go superlight as I wanted guidebook, journal etc, and personally I need a sleeping bag! See link to my blog in my signature
My wife, Jenny, and I have just returning from walking the CF. Due to her work constraints, we walked it in 3 sections over 3 years. SJPDP to Burgos in 2016, Burgos to Ponferrada last year, and Ponferrada to Santiago, followed by Finisterre/Muxia this year. Another fabulous experience and This year Jenny had her 50th birthday on the Camino which was wonderful. We’re already planning next year’s Camino.
Do what’s right for you and Buen Camino.
 
Camino(s) past & future
The Camino Frances 2005
The Portugese Camino 2014
The Camino Ingles Easter 2015
The Camino Ingles April 2016
The Camino del Norte/The Primitivo 2016
#20
Good luck and buen camino. I'll look forward to your updates on the Camino!
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#21
Well things went a bit pear-shaped straight from the off with my flight delay causing me to miss my bus connection to Logrono. So I took the overnight bus to Pamplona. Have managed to run everyother day as well as put in some monster walking days (58km yesterday St Domingo to Cardenuela Riopico). So I should be able to cover Pamplona to Leon in 12 walking days. In Rabe de la Calzada now and looking forward to going across the Meseta. Hope to put in some longer runs on this section due to the flatness.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Past: Francés, Inglés, Fisterra/Muxia, Baztanés x2, Primitivo, Norte. 2018: Portugues.
#22
Well things went a bit pear-shaped straight from the off with my flight delay causing me to miss my bus connection to Logrono. So I took the overnight bus to Pamplona. Have managed to run everyother day as well as put in some monster walking days (58km yesterday St Domingo to Cardenuela Riopico). So I should be able to cover Pamplona to Leon in 12 walking days. In Rabe de la Calzada now and looking forward to going across the Meseta. Hope to put in some longer runs on this section due to the flatness.
Wishing you a Buen Camino! I'm interested to see how the walk & run combination works out for you. When I first replied to this thread in January, I commented that I never felt the urge to run on a Camino. That view has 'evolved' in recent months and I seem to have turned into a wannabe ultra-runner. @Rich1, your blog is partly to blame for that!
 

Oravasaari

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to Fistera (2015), Leon to Fistera (2016), CF, Salvadore, Primitivo (2017), CF run/walk 2018
#23
Wishing you a Buen Camino! I'm interested to see how the walk & run combination works out for you. When I first replied to this thread in January, I commented that I never felt the urge to run on a Camino. That view has 'evolved' in recent months and I seem to have turned into a wannabe ultra-runner. @Rich1, your blog is partly to blame for that!
I think the 5-10km run every other day approach works well. I have been keeping pace with one guy who runs whole sections and walks others. Far too hot for me to be running half marathon+ distances, although that might be possible in March/April or Oct/Nov. I highly recommend the walk/run approach. People do think you are a bit mad though ;-)
 

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