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I think that the perfect place on the Meseta to walk under a full (or nearly full) moon would be the 17 km between Carrión de los Condes and Calzadilla de la Cueza. Straight and flat and no worries about taking a wrong turn.My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon.
If I were to do it I'd book into a private room where I could get to sleep early and leave early without bothering anyone.I just have to wonder how your albergue mates feel about you getting up and around at 4 am.
I can guarantee there will not be a camping night for me. Private room yes, camping no!Or maybe that could be a camping night where you are free to walk when you want?
And it was beautiful, wasn’t it?Just saying, I was camping last month in Moab and the full moon kept me awake...
trecile,I think that the perfect place on the Meseta to walk under a full (or nearly full) moon would be the 17 km between Carrión de los Condes and Calzadilla de la Cueza. Straight and flat and no worries about taking a wrong turn.
I did the opposite. I walked on a New Moon on a clear night. The sight of the Milkyway was breathtaking! There was no light interference from anywhere. I will never forget how blessed I felt.On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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Absolutely agree; when there is a will - there is a way. Get into a private room (and to make it "even better" with a private WC) , take care of absolutely everything previous night and just slip out as quietly as possibleIf I were to do it I'd book into a private room where I could get to sleep early and leave early without bothering anyone.
Everything gets magical at -35°On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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I read of a family's tradition to always do an outdoors event on the night of a full moon no matter what the month.
I remember seeing a sky like that as a teenager when a group of us stopped on a lonely road on the blackest of nights far removed from any artificial light. It was magical. I’d really like to see such a sky again. What a treat it would be if it were also on the meseta.I love full moons, but also enjoy gazing at black skies that are peppered with infinite stars with no moon. I find opportunities to enjoy them both …
Same here .. but I still love it when I leave the house and look upWe live near many dark sky designated places and some with dark sky that are just wild places undesignated. Such as is the nature of Wyoming where I can be in the mountains in less than 25 minutes. Dark skies are amazing, but I usually only see them when I am headed to the outhouse in the middle of the night while camping. It isn't that special to me on the Camino for that reason.
This has always been my dream too - as others have said, I’d want to time it for the Carrion de Los Condes to Calzadilla stretch, and start from a private roomOn another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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This has always been my dream too - as others have said, I’d want to time it for the Carrion de Los Condes to Calzadilla stretch, and start from a private room
The closest I’ve come was in Late October 2018 when I accidentally tumbled out of the private albergue in O Cebreiro just before 6sm and realised the sky was clear and the moon full. That walk off the mountain was truly magical and no headlight was necessary. I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
In the bygone days several years ago, it was always back country hiking in Idaho, Washington, Wyoming, Montana with backpacking tents. Then as my husband grew older, had some bad falls, and a few subsequent surgeries, we moved to camping in a van and now we have a new tiny camper that works for dispersed camping or established campgrounds. I do the upper bunks in albergues instead of him (despite my fear of heights) as a result of the decline in mobility. Still easy to get away from the crowds here where I live though even in established National Forest and BLM campgrounds.In keeping with @J Willhaus ’s post above, look what I just found,
Dark-Sky Preserves
Enjoy some of the best stargazing spots in the world in a Parks Canada Dark-Sky Preserve—a place dedicated to preserving the night sky.parks.canada.ca
No such ‘designated’ place in BC, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they all involve camping.
BTW @J Willhaus, what do you call camping? In a tent, or a camper van? Two very different things to me.
MEH,The only picture of a full moon on the Camino from me is in my head. It was mid August, 2016 .....Coming back to bed a paused and took a look out across the valley to the eastern ridgeline, and a full moon rising. At that moment, my senses were barraged with the smell of a million Summer flowers wafting up from the valley below. Intermingled with this was the sound of sheep bleating ahead of their bells around their necks, telling the shepherd where they were.
No camera could even approach accurately recording that moment...but I will never forget it.
I remember when I started way before sunrise and ran into a small group of pilgrims just before O Cebreiro. I am able to move very quietly in very low light even without a torch. I guess my distant past as German army reconnaissance helps a bit hereThis has always been my dream too - as others have said, I’d want to time it for the Carrion de Los Condes to Calzadilla stretch, and start from a private room
The closest I’ve come was in Late October 2018 when I accidentally tumbled out of the private albergue in O Cebreiro just before 6sm and realised the sky was clear and the moon full. That walk off the mountain was truly magical and no headlight was necessary. I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
At 3 AM, my bladder woke me up and wanted attention.
1. Naw... it was THE MOON!!!! just used the bladder as 'the communicating vessel'. Camino provides magic and you know all that!Coming back to bed a paused and took a look out across the valley to the eastern ridgeline, and a full moon rising. At that moment, my senses were barraged with the smell of a million Summer flowers wafting up from the valley below.
No camera could even approach accurately recording that moment...but I will never forget it.
On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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I've only been in Yukon once and in the summer--that included a road trip up the Dempster to almost 100 km from the NWT, and a rafting trip into Kluane National Park--and never ever saw the full moon then! Your photo is gorgeous! I'd love to go back.On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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I love full moons, but also enjoy gazing at black skies that are peppered with infinite stars with no moon.
I remember seeing a sky like that as a teenager when a group of us stopped on a lonely road on the blackest of nights far removed from any artificial light. It was magical. I’d really like to see such a sky again. What a treat it would be if it were also on the meseta.
You see what I mean?! Imagine walking in that light under the meseta skies! And people talk about missing the view when you walk at night!In the fall of 2020 we took a long-weekend trip to Wellsboro PA. only 3.5 hours drive from our home, one of few places that was open with proper precautions of the time and with 2 specific itineraries in mind
one was to do some hiking on the part of the so-called "Grand Canyon of PA" - my pre-Camino training (I was still hoping for May 21 at this point)
The other one was to visit Cherry Springs State Park - one of the few so-called "Dark Sky Parks". Jupiter and Mars were suppose to be easily seen that weekend so we were quite exited.
Good 45 mins drive on dark and winding roads... and when we came to the place - it was lit up as a Theater on the Opening Night of some much-anticipated play. Yup - you guessed it - FULL MOON! (we never checked for THAT!)
and although quite beautiful in its own way - we couldn't help but being somewhat disappointed.
Here are some shots form that night. The out of focus ones are Jupiter and Mars - the camera's zoom could only take "so much".... No stars could be seen because of the bright moon light
Full moon at Cherry Springs State Park
This is my dream too.On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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You may want to do some astronomy planning with the aid of a website such as this...My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon.
Actually, due to events in the 30s and 40s, France and Spain had their timezones set to match Berlin's and never reverted back.If you want full moon overhead, you are likely to be obliged to be up around midnight to 2 or 3 am - later than 00:00, because of Spain being on, essentially, Paris time!
I get it, that would be magical!On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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Ah, oops. I did not mean to open a topic on those lines! True that UTC+1 is the local solar time for 15 degrees East longitude, which I suppose is Berlin now that I think about it... It is also British Summer Time, which I *wish* the UK was on in winter (I'm not a morning person), so I think of it as the time sensible people in Paris would want.Actually, due to events in the 30s and 40s, France and Spain had their timezones set to match Berlin's and never reverted back.
If you use an APP with GPS tracking you can see where you are in relationship to the trail. Before the APP I had to be careful in the dark not to miss turns. Now I can walk a lot faster in the dark as I can see where I am on the map. See the picture below from the Buen Camino app I took last year. Blue dot is me, yellow line is the CaminoI have walked a couple of times by moonlight and it can be very nice. make Certain that you choose a stage where it doesn’t require a lot of turns. Both times I had spent the night at an albergue before. The first time, I was awoken by others setting out. The second time I slipped out without disturbing anyone’s sleep. I always pack well before going to sleep so that I can be up and out the door without using on of the obnoxious headlamps in the dormitory.
I strongly encourage you to follow through with your idea. I soloed the Camino which gave me the flexibility to walk at whatever time I wanted. 4 o'clock is a great time but you'll need your headlamp to help navigate the pitch black trails and avoid missing the yellow directional arrrows. The serenity of the dark and quiet is amazing.,On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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I find the best night skies seem to be in deserts. Maybe the lack of humidity makes it easier to see more. I remember one night two days drive into the Sahara from the nearest town or village....My most magic night sky experience was when I was standing on the old clapper bridge in Postbridge, Dartmoor, England. You could see the Milky Way even after all those pints of bitter. And then there came a fireball, extremely close that you could see the actual flames. First I thought of a plane crashing actually. The next day I immediately started searching the area where I thought it came down. But to no avail – Dartmoor is such a vast landscape.
Are you serious about my needing/using this site to plan my full moon walking, or are you pulling my leg?You may want to do some astronomy planning with the aid of a website such as this...
Moonrise, Moonset, and Moon Phase in Arroyomolinos de León, June 2023
Moonrise and moonset time, Moon direction, and Moon phase in Arroyomolinos de León – Huelva – Spain for June 2023. When and where does the Moon rise and set?www.timeanddate.com
If you're specifically wanting the full moon, you're in luck, because moonrise and moonset will obligingly be in the evening and morning. Then you can find dates where the sunrise will be tolerably late, and keep fingers crossed that the sky will be clear if you arrange to be somewhere suitably rural on that night.
If you want full moon overhead, you are likely to be obliged to be up around midnight to 2 or 3 am - later than 00:00, because of Spain being on, essentially, Paris time!
I find the best night skies seem to be in deserts. Maybe the lack of humidity makes it easier to see more. I remember one night two days drive into the Sahara from the nearest town or village....
On the Camino, in July and August, we liked to get up and start walking before sunrise (although perhaps not at 4). With a full moon or a clear sky there is no need for headlamps that can ruin your night vision and give you "tunnel vision" where you can't see anything beyond the light beam. We preferred to wait a bit outside before starting to walk and letting our eyes adjust to available light. A full moon gives one kind of beauty and a night lit by the Milky Way gives another.
If I were to do it I'd book into a private room where I could get to sleep early and leave early without bothering anyone.
I wouldn't set an alarm for that, but if I happened to wake up, AND there seemed to be sufficient light, AND it would not be a problem to leave the albergue door unlocked, AND I could gather my things without waking other pilgrims, I would start walking in spite of not being able to get my café con leche till the next village.On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Yes, I’d be very reluctant to set an alarm to get up early too. However, I’m an early riser. At home I regularly start my day at 4 am (you’d be surprised how much one can get done in the early hours). On camino, I can’t recall waking that early, but I remember many mornings when I lay awake (climbing the walls!!) waiting for someone else to start stirring so I could finally get going. Now I know to be prepared the night before to slip out early in the morning should I feel the need. How nice it would be if I were to slip out early in the morning on a moonlit night and run into a like-minded perigrino who is also wanting to walk in the moonlight.I wouldn't set an alarm for that, but if I happened to wake up, AND there seemed to be sufficient light, AND it would not be a problem to leave the albergue door unlocked, AND I could gather my things without waking other pilgrims, I would start walking in spite of not being able to get my café con leche till the next village.
Off yourse!On another thread people are wondering why anyone would want to start walking at 4 am. I would want to start walking at 4 am, or earlier, if there were a full moon.
Here is a picture taken during a full moon in Yukon February 2022 around 4 am. At -35° it was magic.
My dream is to walk on the meseta during a full moon. Does anyone have pictures taken during a full moon … anywhere on the camino?
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Same here. Even in regular life I cannot stand waiting to walk until the sun comes up. If the sun is up at all I feel like I am behind schedule. It's so nice and quiet outside before daybreak and when the sunlight starts illuminating things I can be in a rhythm and feeling good. Then by the time the actual sunrise happens I've been going for a while and just feel great.For those who think it's crazy to walk at night... some people are early risers by nature, and it's not a chore to get up early, but the natural thing to do. I often start my walking days in the dark. Walking into sunrise is just amazing.
But if anyone is looking for inspiration for a night walk I will say this: Moonlight rainbows exist. They are subtle and you have to catch it just right but you won't forget seeing one.
Same here. Even in regular life I cannot stand waiting to walk until the sun comes up. If the sun is up at all I feel like I am behind schedule. It's so nice and quiet outside before daybreak and when the sunlight starts illuminating things I can be in a rhythm and feeling good. Then by the time the actual sunrise happens I've been going for a while and just feel great.
I've been this way since I was a child. We'd go camping all the time in the Peninsular and Sierra ranges and Borrego and Mojave. I'd be up well before anyone else and go hiking by myself. The full moon at night at these places is impossible to avoid and it draws you out and about because you can see so well.
But since I've been outside so much at night, walking the Camino on moony nights or good starry nights is a lower priority. I will do it if it works out but mostly I worry about getting enough rest. Whenever possible, I will be out way before sunrise anyway so no reason to push it.
But if anyone is looking for inspiration for a night walk I will say this: Moonlight rainbows exist. They are subtle and you have to catch it just right but you won't forget seeing one.
Not saying danger doesn't exist at night but this is funny to me because in my experience people are much, much more apt to look around and up and behind while walking in the daytime.To those who eyes are on the sky….there is danger below
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