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Thanks. I do have tiny red light squeeze light. I am an organized person and also prior military so I feel comfortable that I can keep my noise to a minimum. I just have to wonder how anyone could sleep until 7 a.m. though...
Thanks. I do have tiny red light squeeze light. I am an organized person and also prior military so I feel comfortable that I can keep my noise to a minimum. I just have to wonder how anyone could sleep until 7 a.m. though...
Noise and light discipline--not something that seems to come naturally to everyone.
Because it's "their Camino" and they are going to do what they normally do in the morning. If they sing at home, they sing while others are trying to sleep in the albergue. If they slam doors at home, they are going to slam doors while others are trying to sleep in the albergue. Again, because it's "their Camino" they are not going to conform to anyone else's standards.
I have to laugh because having raised five baby girls, the art of silent movement in the dark comes naturallyNoise and light discipline--not something that seems to come naturally to everyone.
Will you hate me if I snore?I read a lot on the forum that I should try to stay in bed and not wake others until a "decent" hour on the camino. At home I get up at 5 a.m. each day, read the paper and drink my coffee, check the news and weather on my Kindle and lately practice my Spanish app until about 6:30 or 7 a.m. I often wake even earlier and hard as I try, I usually cannot go back to sleep so sometimes I am up at 4 or 4:30 a.m. Will I be able to get up and sneak off somewhere quiet until others begin to rise? I don't want to make others angry, but it might be better than me tossing and turning and squeaking around in my bunk until others think it is an appropriate time to get up. I'll have to wait for my husband to wake up and get going before I could begin to start walking anyway.
.... At home I get up at 5 a.m. each day, read the paper and drink my coffee, check the news and weather on my Kindle and lately practice my Spanish app until about 6:30 or 7 a.m. I often wake even earlier and hard as I try, I usually cannot go back to sleep so sometimes I am up at 4 or 4:30 a.m. ....
Earliest departure we endured was at 3.37! That peregrino had amused the rest of the room by loud snoring before 8pm the previous evening.I read a lot on the forum that I should try to stay in bed and not wake others until a "decent" hour on the camino. At home I get up at 5 a.m. each day, read the paper and drink my coffee, check the news and weather on my Kindle and lately practice my Spanish app until about 6:30 or 7 a.m. I often wake even earlier and hard as I try, I usually cannot go back to sleep so sometimes I am up at 4 or 4:30 a.m. Will I be able to get up and sneak off somewhere quiet until others begin to rise? I don't want to make others angry, but it might be better than me tossing and turning and squeaking around in my bunk until others think it is an appropriate time to get up. I'll have to wait for my husband to wake up and get going before I could begin to start walking anyway.
ha ha....I don't know and often wondered that as I lay on my albergue bunk listening to endless minutes of rustling around by pilgrims organizing their packs in the dark in the sleeping area. It's absurdly comical sometimes. I mean just a few meters away, through a door or two is an area that is lighted and where you can actually see your stuff to organize it, ha ha. Heck, if you are carrying so much stuff it has to be inventoried and organized everyday, you are probably carrying too much.When I get up, a couple of people are often gone without a peep. Others get up before me and rustle around for what seems like hours and it drives me nuts. I throw everything in my pack the night before and carry it and my sleeping bag to a common area with a light to organize it. If you don´t need to leave early but you´re awake, again you can either go to a common area or outside until others are awake.
Just realized others have posted this same advice. I wonder why everyone doesn´t do this?
I agree, stopping to watch the sun come up or to just enjoy the morning is wonderful. I am Janet Willhaus' husband. She normally gets up before I do.This has been discussed before on other threads, but just a reminder ... Not everyone who gets going early is racing to the next night's lodging. Some of us early risers just like walking in the early morning, and turning around every now and again to see the sun coming up.
I don't have any answers; I am certainly not going to bust my budget staying in hostals and pensions so that others will not be disturbed by my rustling around at 6:30 am. Let me admit it, I don't think that is a particularly early hour and if I cannot be totally quiet I don't see why I should be urged to feel guilty about it.
In Ponferrada a German fellow told me I should be ashamed, I kept him awake with my snoring and I should be taking private rooms. I told him I could hardly prevent my snoring and he looked at me and said "Of course you can, you are fat". I was horrified and embarrassed yet none of the other roomies had been kept awake.
Migraine meds. Sorry!........we called this rustling of bags "ferreting"-----Whatever was needed always seemed to be in the bottom of the bag and the "ferreter" was always looking for it in the middle of the night--
Whaaat??? That's so very far away from any acceptable behaviour. Pilgrim or not!
Phil & JanetI agree, stopping to watch the sun come up or to just enjoy the morning is wonderful. I am Janet Willhaus' husband. She normally gets up before I do.
I responded to a similar thread a while ago. The preference, from the late risers, was that I should stay in bed so others can be comfortable. But the others in the albergues where I stayed last fall were often late risers. I never got up before 6:30, unless the whole room was already hopping, but I do not find it comfortable to force myself to stay in bed when I am ready to move. And the design of my backpack means that I must pack my sleeping bag first, on the bottom, if I am going to have access to the other things that I may need during the day. I don't expect those who come in later in the evening to get settled in the dorm in the dark, unless it is very late. I wear earplugs and a sleeping mask and ignore them as they do what they must to get ready for bed. But there seems to be a rule that it is inconsiderate to get up and move in the morning unless the majority is ready to do so. No, I can't drag all my gear out of the dorm to pack in the hallway. I have tried it and it doesn't work. By the way, I don't think that I have ever put a light on in a dorm, just too terrified to try. I stayed in bed in Emaus until 7am, because that was the rule of the house, and I barely had time to pack and dress and eat breakfast and help to clean up before the compulsory exit at eight. I don't have any answers; I am certainly not going to bust my budget staying in hostals and pensions so that others will not be disturbed by my rustling around at 6:30 am. Let me admit it, I don't think that is a particularly early hour and if I cannot be totally quiet I don't see why I should be urged to feel guilty about it.
Phil & Janet
I wish you the best on your Camino, after your first day you will loose any concerns you may have with this topic.
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Thanks Keith!
The units I was with in the military we called that something else. It started with the word "rat", but then again they were units where nobody had feminine hygiene products with them, ha ha. Also if one did that one would be barraged with a steady stream of vulgar and obscene words and names which questioned one's birth legitimacy and one's mother's moral standards, ha ha.When I was mobilized in the military we called this rustling of bags "ferreting"--as if some ferret was going through everything in your duffleback. Whatever was needed always seemed to be in the bottom of the bag and the "ferreter" was always looking for it in the middle of the night--usually this turned out to be some personal feminine hygiene product or a bottle of Tylenol, etc. that was needed during the sleep hours. Although it was mildly annoying, I don't recall anyone being angry--although the next day the "ferreter" was usually asked about the importance of said item in the depths of the duffle bag. I don't plan to dig in my bag or rustle around.
Mark, the Camino must be such a far cry from whence you come, don't you think??The units I was with in the military we called that something else. It started with the word "rat", but then again they were units where nobody had feminine hygiene products with them, ha ha. Also if one did that one would be barraged with a steady stream of vulgar and obscene words and names which questioned one's birth legitimacy and one's mother's moral standards, ha ha.
Sir PlusWhoa Albertagirl! I think I lost count at 25 x "I" I guess it really is 'YOUR camino'.
I'm picking up from the forum that some balance and empathy would be welcome by all.
Buen camino to all
Ha ha...just younger days. Good bunch of guys. One just quickly learned how to live communally. That's why I never sweat it when I'm in an albergue. Sure, now and then you get snorers, farters, bag rustlers etc, but it's just for one night...a few hours. Tomorrow is a new day and a new albergue and a new experience.Mark, the Camino must be such a far cry from whence you come, don't you think??
Well, I guess (+1"I") they really will hate me. Do you not find it hard to encourage empathy be being so critical?Whoa Albertagirl! I think I lost count at 25 x "I" I guess it really is 'YOUR camino'.
I'm picking up from the forum that some balance and empathy would be welcome by all.
Buen camino to all
Maybe..... but I shudder to think of that crowd being on the Camino. Still, if you guys had been there, no doubt you would have done your mothers proud.....Good bunch of guys.
Yeah, as most guys will tell you that while young and in the military the mantra was work hard, play harder.....ha ha.Maybe..... but I shudder to think of that crowd being on the Camino. Still, if you guys had been there, no doubt you would have done your mothers proud.
I often wake even earlier and hard as I try, I usually cannot go back to sleep so sometimes I am up at 4 or 4:30 a.m. Will I be able to get up and sneak off somewhere quiet until others begin to rise? I don't want to make others angry,
Exactly. And during the summer perhaps beating the afternoon heat.This has been discussed before on other threads, but just a reminder ... Not everyone who gets going early is racing to the next night's lodging. Some of us early risers just like walking in the early morning, and turning around every now and again to see the sun coming up.
And it is because of people like you that I pay for a hotelI responded to a similar thread a while ago. The preference, from the late risers, was that I should stay in bed so others can be comfortable. But the others in the albergues where I stayed last fall were often late risers. I never got up before 6:30, unless the whole room was already hopping, but I do not find it comfortable to force myself to stay in bed when I am ready to move. And the design of my backpack means that I must pack my sleeping bag first, on the bottom, if I am going to have access to the other things that I may need during the day. I don't expect those who come in later in the evening to get settled in the dorm in the dark, unless it is very late. I wear earplugs and a sleeping mask and ignore them as they do what they must to get ready for bed. But there seems to be a rule that it is inconsiderate to get up and move in the morning unless the majority is ready to do so. No, I can't drag all my gear out of the dorm to pack in the hallway. I have tried it and it doesn't work. By the way, I don't think that I have ever put a light on in a dorm, just too terrified to try. I stayed in bed in Emaus until 7am, because that was the rule of the house, and I barely had time to pack and dress and eat breakfast and help to clean up before the compulsory exit at eight. I don't have any answers; I am certainly not going to bust my budget staying in hostals and pensions so that others will not be disturbed by my rustling around at 6:30 am. Let me admit it, I don't think that is a particularly early hour and if I cannot be totally quiet I don't see why I should be urged to feel guilty about it.
You're right. Lots of other threads on the topic.I stumbled across this thread in the Recent posts column and then discovered that it was 6 years old - until the most recent post above. And it had become quite argumentative way back then. Hope that’s doesn’t start all over again - and, in any case, there are many other more recent threads that cover the same territory.
So, Mods - maybe this one can be put to bed before it takes on a new life?
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