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Louis Lloyd

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2018 French SJPP to Fisterra and Muxia completed
2020 Portuguese from Lisbon
2020 French
Seeking responses for the best printed guide for Lisbon to SdC. Used Brierley on the Camino Francis in 2018 however have seen posts with pilgrims using Wises.I have the Wises app, however still like some paper.
Thoughts please
 

Guy Strachan

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (Part:2013&2014), Portugues (Part2015), Finisterre (2016&2019); Ingles (2017) & Sanabres (18
Hi Louis - definitely Brierley in my opinion - never found fault with his guides in 7 Caminos however did have Wise on Camino Fisterra last month and found it a bit lacking at some points along the way and the route map wasn't continuous unlike Brierley - Buen Camino!
 

formysons

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Roncesvalles - Santiago 2009; Portuguese, Ingles, Finesterre and Muxia - 2019.
Seeking responses for the best printed guide for Lisbon to SdC. Used Brierley on the Camino Francis in 2018 however have seen posts with pilgrims using Wises.I have the Wises app, however still like some paper.
Thoughts please
Hi Louis, is Wises the same as Wise Pilgrim. I bought the Wise Pilgrim for CP and find it very confusing, I guess just too much info, I just cant get into it with ease.
 

lt56ny

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
If you have the Wise Pilgrim “Wisely” app, I would say get Brierlley book. Wise Pilgrim has a really good GPS map and a good amount of accommodations. Brierley maps will give you an easier overview of distances, towns and may make it easier to plan your stages and where you may want to stop. They both have pretty good information on places and what you may pass by. Maybe a little more accessible on Brierley. Another advantage is that no one source has a complete list of places to stay and eat. So having two sources (and throw in Gronze.com) gives you more options.
 
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Henry B

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
2016
On paper try Brierley maps and Wise Guide and as suggested elsewhere go to Gronze etc on line.
That is what I will be trying out on CP in September.
Buen Camino
 

Louis Lloyd

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2018 French SJPP to Fisterra and Muxia completed
2020 Portuguese from Lisbon
2020 French
Hi Louis, is Wises the same as Wise Pilgrim. I bought the Wise Pilgrim for CP and find it very confusing, I guess just too much info, I just cant get into it with ease.
Thanks
 

Louis Lloyd

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2018 French SJPP to Fisterra and Muxia completed
2020 Portuguese from Lisbon
2020 French
If you have the Wise Pilgrim “Wisely” app, I would say get Brierlley book. Wise Pilgrim has a really good GPS map and a good amount of accommodations. Brierley mPs will give you an easier overview of distances, towns and may make it easie to plan your stages and where you may want to stop. They both have pretty good information on places and what you may pass by. Maybe a little more accessible on Brierley. Another advantage is that no one source has a complete list of places to stay and eat. So having two sources (and throw in Gronze.com) gives you more options.
Thanks that makes sense so I will do that when the next issue is released
 

Louis Lloyd

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2018 French SJPP to Fisterra and Muxia completed
2020 Portuguese from Lisbon
2020 French
Hi Louis - definitely Brierley in my opinion - never found fault with his guides in 7 Caminos however did have Wise on Camino Fisterra last month and found it a bit lacking at some points along the way and the route map wasn't continuous unlike Brierley - Buen Camino!
Thanks for the reply I will purchase Brierley.
 

caminoagogo

http://camino-a-go-go.blogspot.com/
Camino(s) past & future
Francés from Leon(2014)
Frances & Sanabres from Ourense (2018)
Portugués (2020)
I use both. I use Brierley for navigating, distances, to pore over whilst grabbing a coffee or beer etc. and use the Wise app for albergue information and user comments. If I see a comments about bed bugs I keep on to the next one.
 

Jon Hebertson

2 feet and a heartbeat
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Lisbon to SdC September 2017
Finisterre - September/October 2017
Seeking responses for the best printed guide for Lisbon to SdC. Used Brierley on the Camino Francis in 2018 however have seen posts with pilgrims using Wises.I have the Wises app, however still like some paper.
Thoughts please
Hey. having used the briely guide on your CF, if you like the format then the CP version will suit you. I’m on the trail at the moment, about to come into Valença (started from Lisbon) and the book has given me all the info Ive needed. It’s always good to have the wise pilgrim app and there is Elles’ blog too so between them, you’ll have a great time!

Bom Caminho,
Jon
 

mmmmartin

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santander-SdC bici '14
Plata bici '17
1/2 Plata bici '18
Frances a pie '18
(Porto a pie '19)
Started from Porto April 12, found the Wisely app slow to load, difficult to use. Bought the TrailSmart app and found it a joy. Ready to use, map was downloaded to my phone and I could use it without data, and the map was easy to use. Also had the latest brierley for the route and would say it's a very useful detailed and helpful guide, especially when it came to an overview of the day's walking. BUT - Used Wise Pilgrim on the Camino Frances last autumn and found it very useful. So for the Portuguese: TrailSmart.
These things cost a few quid anyway so if you don't get on with one spend the price of a bocadillo and maybe save yourself a load of grief and frustration.
 

Calisteve

Member
Camino(s) past & future
June 16 CF
July 17 CF with my son
July 18 CP with my wife
July 19 Ingles Muxia & Finisterre
We used the Wise Pilgrim Guide last year for Porto to Santiago. Personally I'm a convert to the Wise Pilgrim guides.
 

alhartman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Hope so!
Fall 2017, I used the Brierly maps and Wisely app on my iPhone for navigation/distances and resources like places to sleep. Loved that pairing but notice that Wisely has changes to the format and do not like as well.
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF April 2016 April - Jun
Del Norte, Finesterre 2018 May - Jun
Not comparing content between the two, but I found the Brierley guide well bound as my Wise pilgrim fell apart before leaving for the Norte and it had to stay at home. The binding was so poor it was a waste of money...the app would be better is that was preferable. I used Brierley on the Frances previously.
 

Tazz

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances/Finisterre 2016/5
San Salvador/Primitivo 2017/5
Frances/Finisterre 2018/5
Tomar/SDC (2019)
Just walked from Tomar to SDC late April
I used both guides.
The Camino prior to Porto can be less than optimally marked in places and many times the yellow arrows are faded and match the colour off the moss on the poles. I accidentally walked off the trail 5-6 times.
I found the off line GPS on the Wise Pilgrim to be very helpful to get me back on track and doesn’t use data. Also the easy access to booking.com is helpful.
It’s pretty cheap and weighs nothing, so I’d bring the WP app for sure.
 

lt56ny

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
I use both. I use Brierley for navigating, distances, to pore over whilst grabbing a coffee or beer etc. and use the Wise app for albergue information and user comments. If I see a comments about bed bugs I keep on to the next one.
Seeking responses for the best printed guide for Lisbon to SdC. Used Brierley on the Camino Francis in 2018 however have seen posts with pilgrims using Wises.I have the Wises app, however still like some paper.
Thoughts please
Hi just saw this a post from Caminoagogo regarding bed bugs and comments found in wise pilgrim app. The best source of information about specific albergues and pilgrim's experiences are found in the comments in Gronze.com that are found in the descriptions of individual abergues. I don't know what your Spanish comprehension level is, as most comments are in Spanish, but often times you can get a really good idea of the albergue reading the comments. Sometimes the negative comments are most enlightening as I have found a good number of them are not really negative at all. It is people complaining about the simplicity of an albergue, or that the hot water wasn't really hot, or they had a grumpy Hospitalero. But there are also comments about bedbugs and cleanliness. Cleanliness can be subjective, especially if you read the comments and learn the expectations of the person leaving the comment. If you open the webpage on Google Chrome it will translate the comments into English. They are not always a perfect translation but they are usually good enough to get the main idea of the person posting. My Spanish is decent and I still use the translation, as I hate to think too much. I only go back to the Spanish if the translation makes no sense. Then when I read it in Spanish, and am forced to use my brain, I understand what is written.
 

Louis Lloyd

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2018 French SJPP to Fisterra and Muxia completed
2020 Portuguese from Lisbon
2020 French
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If your main concern is about basic information and maps, then Brierley has a 'maps only' version which is far lighter and more compact.
already have this it was a gift from a family member.
 

Elle Bieling

Elle Bieling, PilgrimageTraveler
Camino(s) past & future
Inglés, '14 '17 Finisterre, '14 '17 '18 Primitivo, '15 '18 Portuguese, '17, '18 San Salvador, '18
Was unable to get yours without a Paypal account. Oh well...
You can use a credit card @Stellaluna, no problem! After clicking on the "Buy Now" button (or checkout), look below, near the bottom of the page for the line that says "Pay with Debit or Credit Card" and just click on that link!
 

Stellaluna

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Coast to Coast (2015)
Frances (July 2016)
You can use a credit card @Stellaluna, no problem! After clicking on the "Buy Now" button (or checkout), look below, near the bottom of the page for the line that says "Pay with Debit or Credit Card" and just click on that link!
I get View Cart then click that but there is no option "Pay with Debit or Credit Card"
 

Louis Lloyd

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2018 French SJPP to Fisterra and Muxia completed
2020 Portuguese from Lisbon
2020 French
If your main concern is about basic information and maps, then Brierley has a 'maps only' version which is far lighter and more compact.
I do have the Maps book i received it as a gift have ordered the full verson
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Camino Portugues, June 2019
I havent noticed anybody mentioning the Cicerone Portugues by Kat David. I just got it and havent walked yet, but i like the writing, layout and maps.
 

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