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People who have never missed an arrow have little idea how easy it is. Those of us who have, do.But how he could have taken a wrong there I have no idea.
Walking the Via Francigena through Switzerland I missed a turning somewhere in heavy rain, went the wrong direction and ended up completely lost in torrential rain in a pine forest. I ended up spending the night sleeping in a wooden storage shed for rubbish bins. Fortunately I had full camping gear with me and was never in any danger or serious discomfort. All too easy to do.People who have never missed an arrow have little idea how easy it is. Those of us who have, do.
She may have, perhaps afraid she would have to spend the night out there. Or someone she was supposed to meet up with who called in the troops as she was not arriving.My question is: who gave the alarm for what reason?
Seniors and minors shouldn't travel alone ... but since they walk slow, no one may be willing to walk with them ... a checkpoint system might be nice but unsure how that will be put in place ...
The path between Roncesvalles and Burguete is straight forward, almost flat, parallel to the main road. Difficult to get lost, even when walking in the dark. My question is: who gave the alarm for what reason?
That would make a bit more sense.My translation says he was walking between St Jean Pied de Port and Burguette. So although he was found between Roncesvalles and Burguette, that may have only been where he finished up.
You are coming in dangerous waters with your Seniors remark.Seniors and minors shouldn't travel alone ... but since they walk slow, no one may be willing to walk with them ... a checkpoint system might be nice but unsure how that will be put in place ...
So true .... have to be in the moment and on the watch ...People who have never missed an arrow have little idea how easy it is. Those of us who have, do.
OuchSeniors and minors shouldn't travel alone ... but since they walk slow, no one may be willing to walk with them ... a checkpoint system might be nice but unsure how that will be put in place ...
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Hurrah! the best post I have read in ages.Hmmm....you may have to change your opinion on what constitutes a "senior" on this forum. A very large number of our veteran members are way over the age of 70.
They walk every route and are often trailblazing and writing guides for new routes.
I think you may be surprised at the age, condition...and "speed" of these very experienced pilgrims.
You may have a hard time catching up to them with your 50 lb plus pack.
My translation says he was walking between St Jean Pied de Port and Burguette. So although he was found between Roncesvalles and Burguette, that may have only been where he finished up.
Well, that explains it all!Here is the direct link to the bomberos' tweet and photo: http://pic.twitter.com/EttUt0xxYi - it is not perfectly focused but if you look closely you can make out the shell on the peregrina's backpack.
Agreed, though my experience isn't with "Camino arrows." Markers along several trails in the heavily-wooded American South have the uncanny knack of disappearing just when one needs them most.People who have never missed an arrow have little idea how easy it is. Those of us who have, do.
Oh the horror, Kathar1na! Don't give people any more excuses to wear these things before making it to Santiago at least once!I thought that these white shells, with their visibility and clear contrast when daylight is fading, may help the bomberos to locate and identify any lost pilgrims.
Really! I grimace whenever I see you raise this, even if you might only be half serious.Oh the horror, Kathar1na! Don't give people any more excuses to wear these things before making it to Santiago at least once!
People who have never missed an arrow have little idea how easy it is. Those of us who have, do.
This one between Roncesvalles and Burguete. I am not sure exactly how it could have happened.
http://www.diariodenavarra.es/notic...a-entre-roncesvalles-burguete-546016-300.html
70 year old pilgrim from the US was found two kms before Burguete.
He was found at 9 pm, well before sunset, so unless the weather was terrible it would have been daylight. The article doesn't say how the authorities were alerted.
This one between Roncesvalles and Burguete. I am not sure exactly how it could have happened.
http://www.diariodenavarra.es/notic...a-entre-roncesvalles-burguete-546016-300.html
70 year old pilgrim from the US was found two kms before Burguete.
He was found at 9 pm, well before sunset, so unless the weather was terrible it would have been daylight. The article doesn't say how the authorities were alerted.
I missed an arrow heading up to O'Cebreiro and walked up a very steep road for several kilos until a kind woman stopped her car and told me I was going the wrong way. I actually caught the moment on video (probably why I missed the arrow ;-) ). If you want to see it follow the link below.People who have never missed an arrow have little idea how easy it is. Those of us who have, do.
This one between Roncesvalles and Burguete. I am not sure exactly how it could have happened.
http://www.diariodenavarra.es/notic...a-entre-roncesvalles-burguete-546016-300.html
70 year old pilgrim from the US was found two kms before Burguete.
He was found at 9 pm, well before sunset, so unless the weather was terrible it would have been daylight. The article doesn't say how the authorities were alerted.
Thanks for this assurance . I'm feeling a little less anxious now .Wynne, the Camino Frances is very well marked and most of the time you are following others who will see the arrows. I missed several along the trail but every time within a few minutes someone corrected me. I would not worry about getting lost. If you do it's not the end of the world, you get to see something you had not planned on and you get to take a taxi to where you actually wanted to go that day.
You should not be significantly concerned. Of course you are a "little" concerned, but that is what will keep you safe!I leave next week for Camino Frances fir the first time , alone and quite fit 70 year old . I wasn't worried until I saw this post about getting lost . I'm a little concerned now . Should I be and does anyone have any suggestions for me apart from cancelling ?
Cancelling? No, no. You will also have read how we just can't understand how this person got lost. It really is straight forward, quite litterally. Just pay attention, and if and when you don't see an arrow for a while, unless there have been no intersections, or you haven't seen anyone in front or behind you, retrace your footsteps until you see an arrow. Just make sure you retrace them, don't head off in any random direction.I leave next week for Camino Frances fir the first time , alone and quite fit 70 year old . I wasn't worried until I saw this post about getting lost . I'm a little concerned now . Should I be and does anyone have any suggestions for me apart from cancelling ?
We called in to the pilgrims office in st Jean to get our first stamp and they gave useful advice on the orrison/ napoleon route, where to come off the road so you don't do a loop back down to stjean, and which route is safest to come down off the top to roncesvalles, also weather advice( this was October). We also got lots of route knowledge from john brierlys book. If you leave in the morning with most people you'll see others on the route ahead you can follow, but always check for yourself though, don't follow blindly just in case they might have gone wrong- I'm sure you'd do that anyway. I was surprised at how well signed it all was but could also see how, in bad weather or fog, you could go wrong on the top. So keep others in sight, read up beforehand, take advice from the pilgrim office and you'll be fine. I might suggest too you might want to consider breaking the first day into two and stop overnight in orrison, we did and it was the right decision for us, and a great place to stay.I leave next week for Camino Frances fir the first time , alone and quite fit 70 year old . I wasn't worried until I saw this post about getting lost . I'm a little concerned now . Should I be and does anyone have any suggestions for me apart from cancelling ?
Those of you who read Jack Hitt's book "Off the Road" will remember that he got lost walking out of St Jean.
He walked all day, questioning why the river was on the wrong side. Eventually he saw a village in the distance and thought it must be Roncesvalles.
When he got closer he found that it was St Jean! He had walked in a complete circle and had to start all over the again the next day!
PS: They didn't put that in the movie The Way which was based on the book!
I hope we find out how much they will be fined for the use of the helicopter for their "rescue". Could make for an expensive holiday.Another rescue story today: this time from Molinaseca. A rescue operation was mounted after three Italian pilgrims called for help after finding themselves lost 2km off the Camino. According to press reports none were injured or in any danger at the time. If this is actually the case then a great deal of time and expense was wasted in the operation. A reminder of the need for self-reliance and judgement when calling for help.
http://cadenaser.com/emisora/2017/08/19/radio_bierzo/1503163363_930706.html
I hope we find out how much they will be fined for the use of the helicopter for their "rescue". Could make for an expensive holiday.
Not what is says. It does say the helicopter went instead of the car because it was already there, but they are not being charged because this is considered a piblic service.Another news item says that they will not be charged because the rescue helicopter was already in the area and was diverted to them instead of sending a patrol car.
https://www.infobierzo.com/la-guard...perdidos-a-2-kilometros-de-molinaseca/332900/
I found that the locals were of great help.
I missed one set of arrows in a town (thinking about life) and a gentleman started shouting at me that I was going the wrong way. He pointed me back in the right direction and wished me a Buen Camino.
Another time, I was distracted by a traffic accident in Sarria (apparently the driver was distracted too). Again, the locals checked with me and then pointed me in the right direction.
- we all have GPS on our cell phones -
People who have never missed an arrow have little idea how easy it is. Those of us who have, do.
That is such the truth. Walking out of SJPP and heading to Irun I thought , "no one can get lost here! Markers everywhere..."People who have never missed an arrow have little idea how easy it is. Those of us who have, do.
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