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Apple Air Tag

Time of past OR future Camino
CF 2006,08,09,11,12(2),13(2),14,16(2),18(2) Aragones 11,12,VDLP 11,13,Lourdes 12,Malaga 16,Port 06
Has anyone put an Apple Air Tag in their luggage so they can find it in case it DOES get lost?

My son's friend's car was stolen and in Portland, Oregon, the police just look at you and shrug about a stolen car.
He posted it was stolen on social media and eventually got it back.
This time he put an Apple Air Tag in it.
A few days later, it was stolen again. No joke.
This time he knew right where to go.
He and a few friends paid a visit, and one of the friends pulled the driver out of the car... someone thought it was a car jacking so this time the police DID show up - only to find the guy was retrieving his own car!

Made me think an apple air tag might be good for putting in luggage.
Did a search - didn't see anything...
 
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dougfitz

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Spain: Mar 2010, Apr 2014, May/Jun 2016. Norway/Sweden: 2012, 2018. Other: 2011, 2019. CP (tbc)
My wife bought one recently and has used it on several trips. It is confidence inspiring for her. I wonder about its value beyond that. In the last 22 years of annual overseas travel, she has never had an airline lose her bag, and knowing where the bag is won't necessarily help get it back. It is, however, great entertainment value tracking her bag's progress from the aircraft hold to the baggage carousel.
 
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CF 2006,08,09,11,12(2),13(2),14,16(2),18(2) Aragones 11,12,VDLP 11,13,Lourdes 12,Malaga 16,Port 06
Yeah. I guess it's pretty useless except to know WHERE your bag is.
Ok. Thanks.
 

truenorthpilgrim

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Time of past OR future Camino
Geneva -> SJPdP 2023
My son's friend's car was stolen and in Portland, Oregon, the police just look at you and shrug about a stolen car.

Glad the apple tag worked for him! Currently in Portland and I can confirm the police are meh. I should think it could be beneficial for luggage, though there are growing concerns of women being stalked by men who "plant" AirTags in purses, underneath cars. etc.
 
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henrythedog

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Has anyone put an Apple Air Tag in their luggage so they can find it in case it DOES get lost?

My son's friend's car was stolen and in Portland, Oregon, the police just look at you and shrug about a stolen car.
He posted it was stolen on social media and eventually got it back.
This time he put an Apple Air Tag in it.
A few days later, it was stolen again. No joke.
This time he knew right where to go.
He and a few friends paid a visit, and one of the friends pulled the driver out of the car... someone thought it was a car jacking so this time the police DID show up - only to find the guy was retrieving his own car!

Made me think an apple air tag might be good for putting in luggage.
Did a search - didn't see anything...
Yes, I do. I got a set of 4; so there’s one in my wallet, my bum bag, my rucksack and on Henry the (actual) dog. Not expensive; cost nothing to run and may prove useful.
 

dick bird

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Time of past OR future Camino
Plata, Ingles, Madrid, Norte, Primitivo, Invierno, Aragones, Olvidado, Chemin D'Arles
I beg to differ. Knowing where your bag is can make a huge difference to how quickly you get it back: once your luggage goes astray it can a long time for the airline to track it down and return it to you (believe me, I know this first hand). So seems like a good idea to me.
 

annmte

New Member
Time of past OR future Camino
Norte - May 2022
I used it on the couple of times I used pack transfer on the Camino. Was kinda fun and reassuring as I walked to watch it get to my accommodation! The rest of the time I kept it in my crossbody, on the off chance I would leave it somewhere (though thankfully never did) - as that is where my passport and all my valuables usually were.
 
Time of past OR future Camino
2021
Has anyone put an Apple Air Tag in their luggage so they can find it in case it DOES get lost?

My son's friend's car was stolen and in Portland, Oregon, the police just look at you and shrug about a stolen car.
He posted it was stolen on social media and eventually got it back.
This time he put an Apple Air Tag in it.
A few days later, it was stolen again. No joke.
This time he knew right where to go.
He and a few friends paid a visit, and one of the friends pulled the driver out of the car... someone thought it was a car jacking so this time the police DID show up - only to find the guy was retrieving his own car!

Made me think an apple air tag might be good for putting in luggage.
Did a search - didn't see anything...
I am using one now. It has helped me locate my bag several times when the bag was left at the municipal albergue instead of my casa rural. Definitely recommend using a air tag in forwarded luggage.
 

TrvlDad1

Covidyard Bob
Time of past OR future Camino
2017 Frances from Saria
2018 Finnisterre & Ingles
2019 Portuguese from Valenca
2020 Assisi(cancel.)
I found one buried deep in the back seat of a rental car; had a hard time finding it, then filed a police report. It was the first time they’d heard of it. Probably somebody forgot to retrieve it after tracking an errant husband/wife/etc.
 
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Jmmmpr

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French Camino(2012,2016)
Porto-Santiago(2013)
LePuy-St Jean (2014)
EPW(2017)
Via Francigena(2018)
My husband and I used the air tags to track our bags on our flights from US to Madrid.
We could see our bags when they were on the plane and when they were transferred to another plane.
We’re using the air tags now as we occasionally use a baggage service to transport our backpacks to our various accommodations as we walk the Camino Frances.
We can always track where our backpacks are — so far, so good!
 

P Steeper

New Member
Time of past OR future Camino
Frances (2019) Sarria (2022)
Has anyone put an Apple Air Tag in their luggage so they can find it in case it DOES get lost?

My son's friend's car was stolen and in Portland, Oregon, the police just look at you and shrug about a stolen car.
He posted it was stolen on social media and eventually got it back.
This time he put an Apple Air Tag in it.
A few days later, it was stolen again. No joke.
This time he knew right where to go.
He and a few friends paid a visit, and one of the friends pulled the driver out of the car... someone thought it was a car jacking so this time the police DID show up - only to find the guy was retrieving his own car!

Made me think an apple air tag might be good for putting in luggage.
Did a search - didn't see anything...
Yes. We have AirTags in all our luggage and my camera bags. I lost a camera in Iceland last year and didn’t have an AirTag attached to the camera. I’m currently working on a project with Small Rig to discreetly attach AirTags to cameras so thieves do not see them immediately. I do not want lose anymore. Samsung Smart Tags are goo alternative for Android uses.
There are some good videos on YouTube showing how well these devices work.
 

TrvlDad1

Covidyard Bob
Time of past OR future Camino
2017 Frances from Saria
2018 Finnisterre & Ingles
2019 Portuguese from Valenca
2020 Assisi(cancel.)
My husband and I used the air tags to track our bags on our flights from US to Madrid.
We could see our bags when they were on the plane and when they were transferred to another plane.
We’re using the air tags now as we occasionally use a baggage service to transport our backpacks to our various accommodations as we walk the Camino Frances.
We can always track where our backpacks are — so far, so good!
Many uses, some legitimate. It’s not unusual to get an alert of one nearby in the airport.
 

trecile

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Staff member
Time of past OR future Camino
PAST - Francés, Norte, Salvador, Portuguese
I am using one now. It has helped me locate my bag several times when the bag was left at the municipal albergue instead of my casa rural. Definitely recommend using a air tag in forwarded luggage.
Good idea to use one when using luggage transfer service.
 
Time of past OR future Camino
2021 Sept- Oct Camino Frances
2022 Sept Norte
I used one last year, the Samsung version. And again this year on the Norte. Very helpful. I use Correos to do my transfers and needed it 3 times last year when it was miss delivered on the Frances. This year on the Norte is been perfect and I haven't needed to track it down, it has beat me to my arrival every day.
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2022 Primitivo to Muxia and Finisterre
Has anyone put an Apple Air Tag in their luggage so they can find it in case it DOES get lost?

My son's friend's car was stolen and in Portland, Oregon, the police just look at you and shrug about a stolen car.
He posted it was stolen on social media and eventually got it back.
This time he put an Apple Air Tag in it.
A few days later, it was stolen again. No joke.
This time he knew right where to go.
He and a few friends paid a visit, and one of the friends pulled the driver out of the car... someone thought it was a car jacking so this time the police DID show up - only to find the guy was retrieving his own car!

Made me think an apple air tag might be good for putting in luggage.
Did a search - didn't see anything...
I keep an AirTag in my backpack.
 

jeanineonthecamino

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Time of past OR future Camino
Camino Frances 2021, 2022
I have begun using them at home - on my house/car keys, my work lanyard, my work keys, etc... very useful for knowing in general where your belonging may be. And if you are in "earshot" you can even have it play a sound to find the lost item. I haven't used on on the Camino - but I think my daughter did. I just don't think she had a need to "find" her "lost" item because the only thing she lost on the Camino was her Credential (and luckily she was able to backtrack to get it). Obviously the credential did not have an airtag attached lol.
 
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dougfitz

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Time of past OR future Camino
Spain: Mar 2010, Apr 2014, May/Jun 2016. Norway/Sweden: 2012, 2018. Other: 2011, 2019. CP (tbc)
But sometimes you have to take off the backpack and it's not always at arm's length. Theft, loss or misplacement is unlikely, but has happened.
Sure. In eleven pilgrimages, I have never had someone volunteer to lighten my load by stealing my pack, nor can I imagine the circumstances where I would lose or misplace the only thing I have to carry from place to place. It is very unlikely that I will walk out of an albergue or bar, and puzzle over why I feel so much more spritely! I think this is a solution looking for a problem.

For those who have found it useful to find a bag sent ahead in pack transport, I would be much more interested in knowing which companies they were using that sent their bags to the wrong location.
 

Momwiz

Member
Time of past OR future Camino
Portuguese 2019
Has anyone put an Apple Air Tag in their luggage so they can find it in case it DOES get lost?

My son's friend's car was stolen and in Portland, Oregon, the police just look at you and shrug about a stolen car.
He posted it was stolen on social media and eventually got it back.
This time he put an Apple Air Tag in it.
A few days later, it was stolen again. No joke.
This time he knew right where to go.
He and a few friends paid a visit, and one of the friends pulled the driver out of the car... someone thought it was a car jacking so this time the police DID show up - only to find the guy was retrieving his own car!

Made me think an apple air tag might be good for putting in luggage.
Did a search - didn't see anything...
Just finished part of the Via de la Plata and ALWAYS knew where my air tagged luggage which was being transported was. I immediately got a notice when and where it was “left behind”. Very comforting!
 

wisepilgrim

Camino App Maker
Time of past OR future Camino
Many
AirTags are great for finding and tracking things as long as they are in the custody of someone who has good intentions. Apple has built in certain privacy safeguards which make them somewhat less useful for stolen items. For example, if an item is declared lost for a certain amount of time the AirTag itself will begin to emit a chirping sound which could easily tip off a thief.

That said, they do offer piece of mind. I use the “find my” technology frequently to notify me when I separate certain bits of tech that always travel together… a sure sign that I have left something behind.

For a suitcase it would seem miraculous; airlines simply cannot provide the same level of detail when something goes missing.
 

Pilgrim9

Active Member
Time of past OR future Camino
SJPdP-SdC (2017)
SdC-Muxia-Fisterra-SdC (2017)
Lisboa-SdC (2018)
Ferrol-SdC (2018)
This is a good thread and has got me thinking. Thanks, Anniesantiago, for this.

Backpacks:

Unknowingly leaving one's backpack behind is pretty unlikely for those who invariably carry their "annoying fat little brother" on their back every single day, but the risk of forgetting it and leaving it behind would be far higher for those whose circumstances such as knee problems or whatever require them to alternate day-by-day between carrying it and sending it onwards via a luggage forwarding service. The reason is that in the latter case, the walk start-up process is variable instead of being constant. Lack of established routines sets the stage for errors. In that case I can see the benefit of putting an Air Tag or similar inside the backpack. Also, one might plan to carry the pack every day but mid-Camino encounter an unplanned need to start using a luggage forwarding service.

Walking sticks:

I know someone, who shall remain nameless (cough), who, after having stopped for a few minutes and been distracted, walked onwards and indeed felt unusually spritely. 4 km later he, or maybe it was a she, although I doubt it, realized that his/her hands were not holding his/her walking sticks per normal. And I, or I mean that un-named person, really liked them. So he/she walked 4 km back to retrieve them (they were still there) and then walked forwards over that same 4 km stretch of Camino for the third time. And it was not even an interesting part of the Camino. So I might or might not hide a Tag under the hand grip of one of my sticks.
 
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trecile

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Time of past OR future Camino
PAST - Francés, Norte, Salvador, Portuguese
I know someone, who shall remain nameless (cough), who, after having stopped for a few minutes and been distracted, walked onwards and indeed felt unusually spritely. 4 km later he, or maybe it was a she, although I doubt it, realized that his/her hands were not holding his/her walking sticks per normal. And I, or I mean that un-named person, really liked them. So he/she walked 4 km back to retrieve them (they were still there) and then walked forwards over that same 4 km stretch of Camino for the third time. And it was not even an interesting part of the Camino. So I might or might not hide a Tag under the hand grip of one of my sticks.
I might know someone who did exactly the same thing! 😉
 

JamesGeier

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Time of past OR future Camino
CF Spring 2016
CF Autumn 2017
VDLP spring 2023
I might know someone who did exactly the same thing! 😉
Ha ha ha - I did that! I was with three friends leaving a stop for coffee at Lorca (I think), and after walking about 3 km, realized I did not have my hiking poles. Half-ran / speed-walked back to the bar, and they were there waiting for me. Grabbed the poles, and headed back to meet my friends. At least this stretch of the Camino Frances is more interesting than some.
 

WGroleau

Wandering Weirdo
Time of past OR future Camino
2015 & 2016 (partial)
Has anyone put an Apple Air Tag in their luggage so they can find it in case it DOES get lost?
I have more than one. Somewhat disappointed.

If I drop my wife off somewhere, and she has one of them in her purse, it takes five minutes before my phone tells me it is no longer with me and was last seen near (wherever). Sometimes the location is VERY wrong (but usually correct).

If someone has one by mistake AND has a phone with Bluetooth and notifications ON, they will be notified. If they have it by thievery, they only need to disable cell data or turn phone off to prevent you from finding them.

Basically, it is not nearly as useful as Apple implies, but it's better than nothing. And better than competing trackers that require paying extra for the device to connect directly to cell towers.
 
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Sometimes the location is VERY wrong (but usually correct).
Possibly because GPS is not working so the location is sought by cell tower triangulation which is not as accurate.
If they have it by thievery, they only need to disable cell data or turn phone off to prevent you from finding them.
As I understand things this is not true. I believe that other people's iphones who are nearby and tracking their own tags will also pick up yours (without their knowledge) and their iphone will pass on location and tag id information to the cloud and that information is passed on to you. Of course the thief could disable the tag or leave it behind or put it in someone's car. That's why you hide it when your stuff is valuable.
 

pepi

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Time of past OR future Camino
Last: 2021, next: August 27, '22
Has anyone put an Apple Air Tag in their luggage so they can find it in case it DOES get lost?

My son's friend's car was stolen and in Portland, Oregon, the police just look at you and shrug about a stolen car.
He posted it was stolen on social media and eventually got it back.
This time he put an Apple Air Tag in it.
A few days later, it was stolen again. No joke.
This time he knew right where to go.
He and a few friends paid a visit, and one of the friends pulled the driver out of the car... someone thought it was a car jacking so this time the police DID show up - only to find the guy was retrieving his own car!

Made me think an apple air tag might be good for putting in luggage.
Did a search - didn't see anything...
Just arrived in Santiago after a full CF… and yes, I put an AirTag to my mochilla, which I had forwarded along the entire Camino on doctor’s advice. When arriving in Ponferrada, I found that Jacotrans screwed up and located my pack in Villafranca. Allowed me instant reaction and eventual recovery. Very useful!
 

TrvlDad1

Covidyard Bob
Time of past OR future Camino
2017 Frances from Saria
2018 Finnisterre & Ingles
2019 Portuguese from Valenca
2020 Assisi(cancel.)
Maybe a silly question, but are AirTags legal in all European countries?
If so, are there use restrictions as long as it’s on you or your property.
 
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I saw an Airtag video this morning during my YouTube wake-up session that supplies more information about them that I don't recall being presented in this thread. I think it is worth viewing. I suggest clicking on the title superimposed on the picture instead of the arrow so you can access comments. One of the big takeaways from the two is that Airtags are good for finding things that are lost and not as useful for recovering stolen items; a thief can remove the battery easily or toss the Airtag if found. Another takeaway is that if your phone is an iPhone you will eventually get a notice that you are being followed by one planted on you. This also means that if a thief hasn't seen the Airtag you hid on your property and they have an iPhone they see a notice that essentially tells them to look for it. Apparently Apple treats notification of possible stalking as more important than possible recovery of property.

 
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