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Collect all the things you intend to carry, take them to the store, and see if you have as much space as you want. Take a plastic garbage bag with you to protect the pack. You probably don't want to have the pack bursting at the seams, and should have a bit of room for a snack and extra drink, but you do not need vast amounts of extra space.what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
I used a Stratos 36 and found it quite satisfactory.Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
Used A Stratos 36L from spring to late summer/early fall! No complaints!Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
I used the Osprey 36L and added a waterproof stuff sack (think tube) to hang off the bottom. I used the stuff sack for my sleeping gear (light down quilt, thin fleece, sleep clothes). Worked well for me. I am a small woman and the Osprey rep fitted me with the small 36L backpack. I don't imagine you will need all the space in the 44L but I don't know what your packing list/needs are. If considering the 44L, do the same walk-around you did with the 36L. When I bought a 24L for another purpose, the Osprey did not fit comfortable and I ended up with the Gregory.Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
I agree that hanging things off your pack defeats the purpose of a small pack, but I wouldn't call a 36 liter pack a "micro pack!"I see a lot of people struggle with the 'micro packs.' A week into their walk, things don't fit quite as neatly as the first pack they did at home.
I see people hanging alot of stuff outside their small pack, which to me defeats the reason behind a small pack
I wouldn’t buy the 44 without trying it in first. ‘Fit’ is more important than capacity (within reason).Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
If you have the sleeping bag you don't need the blanket. In case you are still cold wear your fleece to bed. In the mornings wear lightweight baselayer pants with shorts over them. When it warms up take off the baselayer and stick it in your pack and put your shorts on and you are ready to go. Personally I think you can easily do it with a 36L pack.Oh, yes. I forgot to mention. I will be walking the Camino from mid May to mid June, if everything goes well. Was planning to carry a light sleeping bag, a polar fleece, and perhaps a light blanket aswell just in case.
Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
Bruno. Go for the 36L. Decision made!If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
I've done two caminos with the 36L. Love it. There's plenty of room for me, but I pack less and less and less with each subsequent camino. I suspect I'm not alone in that regard. I do hang my sandals on the back, but that's because it feels sooooo good at the end of the day to shed the shoes and socks and put on sandals the faster the better. My pack is not full, so I always carry food and snacks for the two of us.Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
We're the same age Tom. I have put the Te Araroa (NZ's long pathway) on hold after completing 800 odd kms to start the Camino on August 26th. Any advice would be appreciated.I've used the Osprey Talon 44 (which is 42L in the S/M version that I have). It's been great on my three caminos and the VF. My shortest camino was the CF from SJPP to Santiago. I'm 70 kg and typically carry 10kg without a problem. (Age 72 BTW). I'm walking now on the Mozárabe and will be doing 70km in the next two days. I love this pack. Check it out.
I have the same bag but have never taken it on a plane. I remember reading somewhere that because of the hard back it might not fit as a carryon. Anyone ever had trouble with it being a carryon?The 36 stratos also fit into the airlines box to qualify as a carry on bag.
I have only used it for long training but I can agree it is fantastic. Really comfortable.Just an added note about the pack in general: I loved it. I love how it feels when I am wearing it. I love that after wearing it for 4 weeks I had zero shoulder or back pain. and I definitely love having a dry back thanks to the clever and effective ventilation system.
btw-- love your videos tmanFor the 36 you could always hang a bag off the back of it if
you need more room. You failed to mention when exactly you are
doing the camino. If it is in the summer, you need less stuff, so
the 36 might work out. The one thing you could do is assemble
all the stuff you are bringing with you on the camino and see if
it fits.
Hands down go with the 44L with a few thoughts. We’ve never regretted having more space just have the discipline not to throw in stuff beyond your original packing list. . Also think beyond Camino and what you already have in your lineup of packs. Order both packs from Osprey try them out with your gear around your house. They have a 30 day return policy. But you can always cinch a bigger bag tighter but if you fill a smaller bag it can be like a brick on your back. Also in the morning if you are repacking a bigger bag it allows you the freedom to quickly put things in without being too fussy about how everything fits. Also think about potentially carrying groceries etc. Million reasons why you might want the extra space. I carried a hat that I didn’t want crushed if I wasn’t wearing it. Extra space allowed me to do that. Also Ramen cups are large and bulky as are other things you might carry from albergue to albergue. Especially if you’ll do any cooking. Right now in our pack in addition to our gear, I’m carrying a small bag of coffee, ramen, a baguette, salami yogurt and cheese. Some things you may not finish before leaving the albergue and you may not want to have to buy again in the next town. I actually have the 38 but packed light enough I still have extra space but the next time would want ever more room and flexibility. I just don’t like the tightness of the interior compartment once I have my rain gear in the stretchy compartment and my flip flops in the hydration sleeve the 38 is pretty narrow. But I also can’t stand things swinging off the back of my pack. On the Camino now so thought I would throw these few thoughts.Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
I have the same bag but have never taken it on a plane. I remember reading somewhere that because of the hard back it might not fit as a carryon. Anyone ever had trouble with it being a carryon?
Which of those three sizes did you use?This is what we used worked great.
96 L Remember you are encompassing the entire bag waist belt etc so it will need to be bigger than your pack size. I think the 75 liter would have worked too. Again you can order both sizes try then send back the one you do not need. And btw: I’m the president of the overthinker club. Seriously type A. And huge gear nerd. So I laughed when I read that. That bag also comes in different colors.Which of those three sizes did you use?
Just enjoy! Too often the "younger folk" overthink things. One of the nice things at our age is having the experience to know what we can do and the time to do it. I typically walk more than the suggested stages because I like to walk and have no interest in spending half a day updating my FB page. This is easy to do on the Frances because of so many options for places to stay and places to eat. You will find many people who will NEVER walk more than 25 km in a day. I gently tell them that they're just too young, that they'll be able to walk farther when they get to our age. I'm also skeptical of all the weight limits. I'd rather take 5 pairs of socks (10 oz total) rather than have to stop every day to wash socks. Applies to other things as well. I take what I know I'll use and am prepared to carry whatever is in my pack.We're the same age Tom. I have put the Te Araroa (NZ's long pathway) on hold after completing 800 odd kms to start the Camino on August 26th. Any advice would be appreciated.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
Years ago my sack of choice was a Deuter 65. Contrary to accepted wisdom from homespun gurus I did NOT fill it with more stuff than I needed. I simply had a home for everything in the the load was nicely spread out. In the constant debate of size versus capacity I do not recall ever seeing anything in HOW you pack. my sleeping bag sits in the bottom compartment, my toilet gear in the left zipped pocket etc etc. I know where everything is down to the last spare bootlace. The older I get, the more medication I need and it too demands its own pocket. Paradoxically as I approach 85 in July I am having to revert to a lighter sack and prefer the Deuter 40+10. I have NEVER HAD MY GEAR FORWARDED! I am reluctant to let it out of my sight and I'm sure it would sulk if strangers were allowed to manhandle itI see a lot of people struggle with the 'micro packs.' A week into their walk, things don't fit quite as neatly as the first pack they did at home.
I see people hanging alot of stuff outside their small pack, which to me defeats the reason behind a small pack.
I've never regretted my 60L pack on my six Camino's.
I was in an outdoor shop just the other day and was looking at the 36 and 44. They seem to be around the same length and width. Only the breadth is larger.I wouldn’t buy the 44 without trying it in first. ‘Fit’ is more important than capacity (within reason).
A 36L should be sufficient in my opinion. I could go smaller and I walk out of the warm months; but don’t want to have to be overly precise when loading the sack.
I was in an outdoor shop just the other day and was looking at the 36 and 44. They seem to be around the same length and width. Only the breadth is larger.
Bruno - and others interested in this thread. You all inspired me to go looking at my local REI (Recreational Equipment Incorporated) near Seattle, to see if I could take a look at the Osprey 36L and 44L. I did find the 36L, but the larger backpack was not in stock.Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
The sticking out bit is what I refer to as breadth!I struggle with left and right sometimes.
If the area in contact with your back is the same but the two sizes differ in how far they ‘stick out’ (I know that’s not a technical term) - you’re probably going to be OK.
Agreed ... I was actually in the store today and set both side-by-side for a photo. They are the same model and height, but the 44L one is wider (and will therefore allow some larger items more easily, but also have weight that might be a bit more off-center). I am still struggling with the same decision, although based on the comments above and my poor back, I will go for the 36L.I was in an outdoor shop just the other day and was looking at the 36 and 44. They seem to be around the same length and width. Only the breadth is larger.
I did the North 850Km with the 36 L osprey and would go smaller next time. Of course i have a T5 issue with my back and it only bothered me for 840 km of the caminoHello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
You don't need a smaller backpack to go lighter - just put less stuff in it!I did the North 850Km with the 36 L osprey and would go smaller next time. Of course i have a T5 issue with my back and it only bothered me for 840 km of the camino. I also did it in March and had total weight including what i had on of 25lbs. Go smaller if you can surprising how much you don't need when on the trip.
I found the thing that takes the most space in my bag was my sleeping bag/sleep sack, if you can get one that you can really pack down, go for the smaller pack. I'm still lookingHello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
Interesting point. Are you saying that you think that the wider available space of the 44 will necessitate keeping an eye on how one might pack things side to side? Meaning-- the extra side room might make it tougher to balance?Agreed ... I was actually in the store today and set both side-by-side for a photo. They are the same model and height, but the 44L one is wider (and will therefore allow some larger items more easily, but also have weight that might be a bit more off-center). I am still struggling with the same decision, although based on the comments above and my poor back, I will go for the 36L.
I was in complete agreement with the rest of this post, but was left puzzled by how it was possible to determine this. In any case, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_weight the average Canadian male weighs 84.6 kg. This would indicate to me that for a summer camino, a pack around 44 li would be more suitable than anything much smaller. But the big if in all that is if the OP is close to the weight of the average Canadian male. If he weighs less, a smaller pack might be suitable. More than that, and the less likely a smaller pack will work.You appear to be an average size man - therefore your clothes should not take up more space than any other average size pilgrim.
@tomnorth, I always think of you as one of the paragons of trimming down and packing light. You are clearly an outrider when it comes the relationship between pack size and your own body weight.I walked with the Osprey Stratos 36l in 2015. It was a perfect size and was comfortable to wear. I still have it and continue to us it.
Is this your rule for yourself, or for others who might have completely different circumstances to deal with?The way I see it is that if you need more than 25 litres you are carrying too much.
I was in complete agreement with the rest of this post, but was left puzzled by how it was possible to determine this. In any case, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_weight the average Canadian male weighs 84.6 kg. This would indicate to me that for a summer camino, a pack around 44 li would be more suitable than anything much smaller. But the big if in all that is if the OP is close to the weight of the average Canadian male. If he weighs less, a smaller pack might be suitable. More than that, and the less likely a smaller pack will work.
In any case, I support the advice to collect what you intend to carry, and take that with you when checking out a backpack.
Ever since people started wearing clothes. Larger sizes weigh more and need more space. So, let me see - pretty much forever!And since when does your body weight determine what size pack you need?
Well, I cannot think of any authors that I have read on this topic who wouldn't think you are wrong, and I agree with them. It isn't the only factor, but it is one that predominates discussion here. The other factors, like resilience, ability to afford lightweight gear, and trip duration, are more difficult to evaluate here or less relevant given the nature of the camino as a series of day walks.Also - I don't think weight determines pack size. What you put in the pack determines pack size.
Except a 200 pound man can overpack and a 300 pound man can pack light. And 1 200 pound person can be tall and lean and another can be short and very overweight. Muscle weighs more than fat. And heavy people often pack lighter cooler clothes while vey thin people tend to get cold easier and are more likely to pack warmer gear and more layers. It isn’t solely about a persons weight. It is about what you put in your bag. is weight a factor? Sure. A determinant? I don’t think so.Ever since people started wearing clothes. Larger sizes weigh more and need more space. So, let me see - pretty much forever!
Well, I cannot think of any authors that I have read on this topic who wouldn't think you are wrong, and I agree with them. It isn't the only factor, but it is one that predominates discussion here. The other factors, like resilience, ability to afford lightweight gear, and trip duration, are more difficult to evaluate here or less relevant given the nature of the camino as a series of day walks.
Sure, it is what goes into the pack that determines how big it is, but what drives the weight and volume of that is a persons size amongst other things.
I agree that larger clothes weigh more. However, of my 5.5 kg pack of 31 L, the clothes that I typically carry in my backpack, including rain gear, sandals, and multiple layers, weigh about 1.8 kg. My sleeping bag stuff would accommodate a much larger person. Let's round up to 2 kg. So, if a person's clothes were twice as big as mine, that would mean an additional 2 kg and some bulk.Sure, it is what goes into the pack that determines how big it is, but what drives the weight and volume of that is a persons size amongst other things.
I have put the case regularly why suggesting a particular pack size and weight based on personal experience without revealing one's own height and weight is not as valuable as when one also provides that information. Others need to be able to assess whether they are sufficiently similar to the person providing this advice to think that it will work for them, or perhaps make adjustments to account for any differences.That is why I would still tell people that 5-8 kg and 30-40 L should be enough for most people, barring special needs. It is a simple piece of guidance that might be helpful.
If these were real concerns, perhaps you should have asked @bplsilva about them before offering your advice. You didn't, from which I infer that you are just dreaming up objections rather than being really interested in listening to alternative points of view.Except a 200 pound man can overpack and a 300 pound man can pack light. And 1 200 pound person can be tall and lean and another can be short and very overweight. Muscle weighs more than fat. And heavy people often pack lighter cooler clothes while vey thin people tend to get cold easier and are more likely to pack warmer gear and more layers.
You're right, but given that you didn't enquire of the OP about any of these factors, I am going to assume that either you don't know how to factor them into your advice, or perhaps that you don't even know the full extent of what they might be. One way or the other, my view is that it is inappropriate to base your advice on the appearance of someone's avatar, even if it might be a recent personal photograph.It isn’t solely about a persons weight.
Well, arguably I could have carried more, but given I had to walk 800km, I wasn’t taking chances. A 36l pack kept me from loading up.@tomnorth, I always think of you as one of the paragons of trimming down and packing light. You are clearly an outrider when it comes the relationship between pack size and your own body weight.
YesI love the multiple factor analysis present on this page.
I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
Hi Bruno, I used the Stratos 34 last Sept-Oct on the Frances. I would definitely choose the Osprey over the others simply for their airflow technology. The Osprey suspension will keep your back much dryer. As much as I loved the Stratos 34, I traded it for an Osprey Hikelite 32 because it's half the weight. I had extra room in the Stratos 34 and filled it with stuff I didn't need. The 32L will save me half the empty pack weight plus 100% of the weight of a light blanket, etc. that are not needed. If you are going in May-June you won't need the blanket & a sleeping bag. You probably won't need either of them. Take a silk bag liner and if you get cold and there are no blankets, wear 2 layers of shirts and long pants or leggings to bed. By the way, most of the places I stayed in last Sept-Oct on the Frances had blankets available. I was never cold due to all the body heat. Sometimes, I was even too warm with the silk liner. I'm doing the Portuguese route in 2 weeks and the Del Norte in Sept and I plan on using my 32L for both. Good Luck and Buen Camino!Hello all,
First of all, a very big thanks for all of you that have replied or gave their opinion in multiple backpack threads prior to this one. Your knowledge and advice have been very helpful so far.
I am opening this thread to try to close this topic, at least for me.
Context:
After reading multiple threads, I went this weekend to an outdoor shop here in Canada and tried several backpacks on. Most from the brands Gregory, Ospreys and Deuter.
I was initially leaning for a Deuter backpack as they have a very good reputation, and my other hiking day packs (under 30 L) are from this brand and I do like their products a lot.
But I went to try them and the one that I liked the best was the Osprey Stratos 36L. I tried it and, to begin with, was able to properly adjust it without much difficulty. Hips, then shoulders, it felt very nice to handle. Then I walked around with it with no weight on. Felt right. Then I put 10lbs inside it, walked some more, then 20lbs. And kept walking around the store for around 30 minutes.
It looked good, it felt good, I like it. I think I am ready to get one. I am just not sure on whether to get the 36L or a larger size, 44L.
I read from most posts that more space usually mean filling it with more stuff that might not/will not be needed. Then I think "what if i need more space?"
I have read that their dimensions are very similar, but do not think there is a store near me that has a 44L available to try.
If i'm quite sold on getting the 36L, I wonder, for an overthinker like me, what should I think to get the piece of mind that I don't need to get the 44L.
Any help would be appreciated. Or just any advice.
Thanks in advance,
Bruno, the overthinker.
I started out earlier than most people last Sept/Oct on the Frances. It guaranteed that I would not miss a sunrise. It amazed me how many people never turned around to see the sunrise behind them.I am just on 80 years old, weigh 69 kilos and am 1.7 metres tall. I have had nearly 70 years experience of tramping or walking long distances with a pack. Over that time I have learned what "I need" from what "I'll take that just in case I might want it". I am a minimalist and don't "need" much. I also don't carry any electronic stuff as I didn't have it 50 years ago and managed just fine, and don't "need" it now. None of my stuff is expensive or technical but it suits my purpose. I know my wants and needs are a lot different from most people but it suits me. Having a five kilo pack allows me to start walking at 6.00am and travel 30 kilomteres in six hours plus time for sightseeing and then when arriving at my albergue, doing my washing, and then to go out walking around the area to experience the sights, sounds, people and food. I am sure that if I had carried a heavier pack for that time and distance I would not have the energy for much else. Even though I am very happy with my system, I know that most people would not be.
Hi Robo, do you take your Stratos 36L as a carry on? if you do, have ever had any issues with any airline?I use a Stratos 36L. It fits all I need, including sleeping bag etc, for Caminos in the Spring, Summer or Autumn. I might need slightly larger for Winter.
Hi Robo, do you take your Stratos 36L as a carry on? if you do, have ever had any issues with any airline?
Thank you!Never had a problem yet.
But do carefully check the carry-on size limitations for your airlaine.
To keep the bag a bit smaller and squishy, I take my small sil day pack/shopping/laundry bag as a 'handbag. Just with the stuff I need for the flight. I hang it off the front of my pack with a small carabiner whilst boarding.
I also have the Osprey Sirrus 36L and been happy. The dimensions have always been within airline limits for carryon. I do bring a lightweight bag for under the airline seats to hold a few items I transfer later.I have the sirrus 36L. I love it, but if I ever need to get a new backpack Ill downsize slightly. Maybe go for the 33L.
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