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No.. I use long johns under the shorts if it gets too chilly, or if there is a cold rain in cool weather. Most of the time they stay packed. The long johns are less then half the weight of pants to do the same jobAre the long-johns just for sleeping? You could ditch those and sleep in the same pair of shorts you're walking in next day, then add the pants. A longer cargo-type short or tailored short probably acceptable for Mass, but not running shorts.
No.. I use long johns under the shorts if it gets too chilly, or if there is a cold rain in cool weather. Most of the time they stay packed. The long johns are less then half the weight of pants to do the same job
Well, when you say "running shorts", do you mean the little tiny short ones, or more like a basketball or gym short? Because the little tiny ones at dinner in a restaurant or at a Mass, probably a bit inappropriate. Even here in San Francisco, people would raise an eyebrow if they're those itty-bitty things, lol.
... Do I need to include a pair of lightweight pants for proper dress code to attend pilgrim masses, tour cathedrals, or eat in establishments? ...
Not for dress code, but for coolish evenings/nights in the mountains ;-) Buen Camino, SY
Phew! When you said running shorts, I was picturing something like thisLOL!!!! No... my running shorts come just above the knee, are a bit "loose" fitting as opposed to being form-fitting, are very opaque, and have a nice, supportive liner to hold the "boys" in their proper placeThey also weigh about 5.5 ounces each, and dry out extremely fast.
No.. I use long johns under the shorts if it gets too chilly, or if there is a cold rain in cool weather. Most of the time they stay packed. The long johns are less then half the weight of pants to do the same job
Life is easier for those of us with only one bottom ...My clothing load, for my bottoms, will consist of ....
I took a pair of merino wool long johns for the Camino Frances in April a couple of years ago thinking that I may need the extra warmth in the evenings/nights as there was still snow on the ground in the Pyrenees. They got binned within a couple of days after never being used. I walked the whole distance in hiking shorts and switched to the hiking trousers in the evening to go to church, tea and dinner.
Everyone on the Camino is pretty relaxed, go with what you feel comfortable in. If you change your mind after starting, you will pass through several towns/cities where you can buy something new.
My suggestion would be to ditch the long johns....too warm IMHO. Then replace one pair of shorts with one pair of convertible zip-off cargo pants in 100 nylon fabric.
The convertible slacks can be long trousers, short trousers, rain pants (the nylon repels water then dries out VERY fast). Save the short-shorts for a 30 degree plus day where maximum ventilation is needed.
Also, if you did get caught in unseasonably cool weather, the long pants can be worn to sleep in. I have done so several times. Cloth is cloth, insulation is insulation.
Carrying the long johns seems to me redundant. I assess you likely will not use them. Convertible slacks are pretty much a standard item along the Camino. Just make certain you do NOT get cotton slacks. They get wet, stay wet, dry slow and do not insulate well.
Your net weight increase should be zero to nil.
I hope this helps.
The rain kilt sounds exciting.
I walked mid Sept to end Oct. yeah I know slow walker. From memory I wore my silk thermal long pants once and only for a short time one icy morning. On the other hand I wore my rain pants a lot. My sister walked with a rain skirt and she found it was nowhere near as comfortable as rain pants. She has since binned it and now walks with rain pants.
Yep I agree that some rain pants are like that but never once did my Zpack rain pants get wet and clammy and believe me, when I walked in 2015, I wore them a lot. I loved them and wore them again this spring with the same result. And often just as a warm layer. My sister wore the Zpack rain skirt in 2015 which she found to be not comfortable and now she wears their trousers instead. She did the Cradle Mountain track in Tasmania last christmas in the Zpack rain pants and wore them every day. Technology changes so fast these days. Worth shopping around I think. Please no offence meant.I've worn the rain kilt/skirt for many, many trail days while backpacking in the Cascades and the Olympic Mountains... both very wet environments. Rain pants, with heavy exertion while backpacking, would get wet and clammy from perspiration, even with the most advanced waterproof/breathable fabrics made. It is just a matter of personal taste and comfort
If you're on the Norte this weekend you sure as heck might. Or, I suspect, Navarra..
At this time of year you won't find many cool caminos. ....
My clothing load, for my bottoms, will consist of two pairs of running shorts and one pair of Smartwool lightweight long-johns. About 17 ounces for the lot. My rain kilt adds another 2.5 ounces. It's the same kit that I've used backpacking and has done everything that I need it to do.
EXCEPT.....
Do I need to include a pair of lightweight pants for proper dress code to attend pilgrim masses, tour cathedrals, or eat in establishments? Even with the lightest of backpacking pants, it adds another 10 to 16 ounces of weight that I don't need, other than for required social proprieties.
To be honest I was offended during mass when young tourists (Iperhaps they were pilgrims) walked around taking photos during the pilgrins mass in their bare legs and running shorts , it's a church and there is a dress code. When my hikingnpants were drying, I'd attend mass in leggings with my large scarf wrapped around my bottom as a skirt. Just think it's respect, I've never seen someone attend mass on Sunday in a regular church in shorts. Thanks for being considerate of others who believeva church is a special,place.
I brought no pants walked in shorts the whole way! God sees us in our own likeness so in the buff would be appropriate but that's a lot of sunscreenI think you will find churches pretty tolerant of shorts. I don't wear them myself, but there was nowhere where I went to mass where the pilgrims in shorts were asked to leave.
Yep I agree that some rain pants are like that but never once did my Zpack rain pants get wet and clammy and believe me, when I walked in 2015, I wore them a lot. I loved them and wore them again this spring with the same result. And often just as a warm layer. My sister wore the Zpack rain skirt in 2015 which she found to be not comfortable and now she wears their trousers instead. She did the Cradle Mountain track in Tasmania last christmas in the Zpack rain pants and wore them every day. Technology changes so fast these days. Worth shopping around I think. Please no offence meant.
I thank you very much for your thoughtful observations.To be honest I was offended during mass when young tourists (Iperhaps they were pilgrims) walked around taking photos during the pilgrins mass in their bare legs and running shorts , it's a church and there is a dress code. When my hikingnpants were drying, I'd attend mass in leggings with my large scarf wrapped around my bottom as a skirt. Just think it's respect, I've never seen someone attend mass on Sunday in a regular church in shorts. Thanks for being considerate of others who believeva church is a special,place.
Yes, the last I heard God welcomes all into His house, regardless of the wardrobe. I have often exposed Him to my "chicken legs" and have yet to be struck by lightening.I think you will find churches pretty tolerant of shorts. I don't wear them myself, but there was nowhere where I went to mass where the pilgrims in shorts were asked to leave.
Pictures are one thing but but god only knows your heart! As long as you are on your knees with the transformation bell rings..all is goodTo be honest I was offended during mass when young tourists (Iperhaps they were pilgrims) walked around taking photos during the pilgrins mass in their bare legs and running shorts , it's a church and there is a dress code. When my hikingnpants were drying, I'd attend mass in leggings with my large scarf wrapped around my bottom as a skirt. Just think it's respect, I've never seen someone attend mass on Sunday in a regularwhat you are wear church in shorts. Thanks for being considerate of others who believeva church is a special,place.
Simple answer; no. The only dress code is that you wear clothes, nudity is frowned uponMy clothing load, for my bottoms, will consist of two pairs of running shorts and one pair of Smartwool lightweight long-johns. About 17 ounces for the lot. My rain kilt adds another 2.5 ounces. It's the same kit that I've used backpacking and has done everything that I need it to do.
EXCEPT.....
Do I need to include a pair of lightweight pants for proper dress code to attend pilgrim masses, tour cathedrals, or eat in establishments? Even with the lightest of backpacking pants, it adds another 10 to 16 ounces of weight that I don't need, other than for required social proprieties.
Do I need to include a pair of lightweight pants for proper dress code to attend pilgrim masses, tour cathedrals, or eat in establishments?
I've never seen someone attend mass on Sunday in a regular church in shorts. Thanks for being considerate of others who believeva church is a special,place.
Do you think we should have stayed at home?
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