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A couple of months ago I was on YouTube watching Camino videos and I saw a man who had made a video of him camping the entire route. It may have been 2 men because I remember them trying to find a tree to camp under when it was raining. But there is a video in YouTube. A little searching and you should find it. I was thinking the same thing because of the virus. I would feel a lot better knowing I had my own little area and it was free of any virus.Hi there! I'm looking to bring a tent and post up along the way instead of staying at hostels. Is this possible? Even if there aren't designated camp spots along the way, are there spots off to the sides to discretely set up camp? Has anyone done this before and if so, any tips?
Thank you in advance!
Hi there! I'm looking to bring a tent and post up along the way instead of staying at hostels. Is this possible? Even if there aren't designated camp spots along the way, are there spots off to the sides to discretely set up camp? Has anyone done this before and if so, any tips?
Thank you in advance!
Hi there! I'm looking to bring a tent and post up along the way instead of staying at hostels. Is this possible? Even if there aren't designated camp spots along the way, are there spots off to the sides to discretely set up camp? Has anyone done this before and if so, any tips?
Thank you in advance!
“Apart from tourist camp sites no more than three tents of caravans may be placed at the same location, nor should there be more then 10 campers, nor may the camp be in place for more than three days. Tents and (caravans) within 500 meters of each other are considered to be part of the same group.”
Great information, Dave. On the Norte, specifically, I saw several times men who were camping on the porches/overhangs of small chapels along the way. It reminded me of "olden times". Not sure if legal, but I thought it wonderful...the church originally being used to help pilgrims to stay out of the elements on their way to Santiago.Below is a post I had made before, so maybe this will give you some direction in investigating this.
Without knowing their legal status for use, there has never been a point, while walking along any of 'stages' of either the Frances or the Ingles, where I did not spot many different places for a cold camp with a small tent. Given my backpacking background, doing a spot check for such sites was sort of a game that I would play in my mind toward the end of a walking day.
I would also consider making inquiry at the local police station or town office, if possible. Check out the availability of using a church or alburgues garden or yard area (if there is someone to talk with).
If water is an issue, no biggie. When you get to the end of the day, fill up on 2 or more liters of water at the last large water source you think will be available. . bar, water fountain, a friendly home, etc. In the morning, dump out all water not used except for the .5 to 1 liter amount you'd normally carry. If you do plan to camp, then there are extremely lightweight and collapsible water containers you can stuff in your pack until needed.
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Wild camping in Spain is complicated. There is a “mother law” Article 46.1 of the order for July 28th which states that:
The law also states that it is prohibited to free camp within 200 meters of the sea, within a few kilometers of military installations, within a few kilometers of a regular camp site, and in protected areas like national parks, natural parks, bird sanctuaries called ‘ZEPA’s, (Zona Excepcional de Protección de Avifauna), etc.
However, there is the new law under the Spanish Constitution of 1978, which created seventeen ‘autonomous regions’ each with considerable, though varying, powers to make their own legal codes with their own territory.
Under these new laws, wild camping in Spain is COMPLETELY PROHIBITED in: Andalucía, Aragón, Asturias, Extremadura, Galicia, Navarra, Valencia. These areas have their own laws/permit requirements for wild camping: Cantabria, Murcia, La Rioja.
These areas fall under national rules and wild camping IS permitted: Basque Country, Cataluña, Madrid, Castilla y León, Castilla la Mancha. But in these areas you still can’t camp near the beach, in national parks, protected areas, etc. Also, a lot of the land is privately owned, so you’d have a hard time finding anywhere that would even fall into the permitted wild camping areas.
You can read more about wild camping in Spain here. In the linked article, it says that the fine for illegal camping is 30 euros per square meter of space used, per day. However, this link says that the fine is up to 5000 euros!
If you are just looking for a place to camp for free but not necessarily wild, this article has recommendations.
I’d avoid making a fire while wild camping in Spain. The locals might turn a blind eye to wild campers in some areas, but the risk of forest fire is very real and the fire will likely quickly attract police!"
A great questiom, @Northern Light, and I do not have tbe answer...if there even is one...What then is the definition of camping, for our purposes?
If I bed down in a bivy sack on the porch of a church, under a bench in a rest area, or in a small wooded area out of sight, am I considered to be camping or simply a vagabond/vagrant?
No fire, no cooking, leave no trace.
What then is the definition of camping, for our purposes?
If I bed down in a bivy sack on the porch of a church, under a bench in a rest area, or in a small wooded area out of sight, am I considered to be camping or simply a vagabond/vagrant?
No fire, no cooking, leave no trace.
"The plot thickens."For "camping" as used as a legal term by the Spanish government, my thought is to consider only the definitions that are given in the primary statute, which seems to cover sleeping outdoors in proximity to urban and municipal areas.
For porch sleeping, and other informal park-bench style occupancies, I would look at what Spain considers vagabonds, hobos, homeless, or other municipal area sleep-outs. Properties that are privately owned or publicly maintained within a local urban jurisdiction, like churches, fire or emergency stations, alburgues, other lodgings may be allowed to determine who they can 'host' and in what fashion when it comes to itinerants whether Pilgrim or non-pilgrim.
I am not an expert on European norms, but I think Western Europeans are more compliant with norms and regulations (like prohibitions against wild camping) than Americans. So it kind of boils down to can you do this and get away with it or get away with it most of the time? Even if the answer to each of these questions is yes, you would still be transgressing and behaving like a scofflaw visitor in a foreign country. BTW I don't think most Americans are sensitized to this unless they have lived in Western Europe or have spent a lot of time there.
are there spots off to the sides to discretely set up camp?
@davebugg Based on your own post, in Navarra and Galicia it is prohibited. And people do camp, with permission, on property adjacent to some albergues and perhaps in the occasional, rare campground.
I don't think that is what the op was asking about...
Even if there aren't designated camp spots along the way, are there spots off to the sides to discretely set up camp?
How economically viable would these campsites be? Are you catering for a couple of pilgrims a day, a week, a month? Don't forget that, for the most part, the Caminos are not particularly touristy (save the main centres like Burgos, Leon etc.) so you're not going to get a lot of passing traffic other than pilgrim walkers and cyclists.I've never understood why there are not more campsites, particularly along the Frances. I'm sure many would prefer to use them in the summer, and maybe help alleviate the bed race.
I imagine opening a campsite would be easier than an albergue as you only need a small field or garden, with a tap and a composting toilet. A hot shower would be welcome but not essential.
I wild camped every night along the Frances without any problems, but it was a different world back then.
How economically viable would these campsites be?
I'm sure that Spain, like most European countries I've camped/campervaned in, have regulations as to sanitation etc. of campsite so would the effort of complying with the bureaucracy be worth the financial return?
For the sake of fellow pilgrims and people in the bars and cafes along the way, I think that some kind of showering facilites woukd be essential!A hot shower would be welcome but not essential.
Obviously hot showers would be nice, and most sites probably would have them, but as long as there's water they're not essential, to keeping clean.For the sake of fellow pilgrims and people in the bars and cafes along the way, I think that some kind of showering facilites woukd be essential!
Last year a couple did the Camino del Norte camping, sometimes in campsites and other times wherever
Maybe not so much, given the new physical distancing practices!For the sake of fellow pilgrims and people in the bars and cafes along the way, I think that some kind of showering facilites woukd be essential!
Oh come ON - thats easy! You are simply a camping vagabond vagrant!What then is the definition of camping, for our purposes?
If I bed down in a bivy sack on the porch of a church, under a bench in a rest area, or in a small wooded area out of sight, am I considered to be camping or simply a vagabond/vagrant?
No fire, no cooking, leave no trace.
@mikebetTimes may have changed due to the virus, but just last year a lot of popular tourist meccas were complaining vociferously about the negative impact of hordes of visitors overrunning everything. It seems to me that camping -- especially outside the very rare designated campsites -- risks offending even more locals. I know that if I owned a farm in the countryside I'd be pretty unhappy to see an unauthorized tent in the pasture. From my experience on the Frances, Portuguese and Sanabres I can recall very few places where one could camp without being sure you aren't setting up on someone's private property -- and (excuse me) where are you going to sh#t, a point rather delicately avoided in the discussions above? And lastly, it seems to me that if you are wealthy enough to afford a trip to Spain you ought to be willing to contribute a little more to support a weak and recovering economy. I've done some backpacking and wilderness camping -- Inca Trail, Kokoda Trail, and West Coast Trail on Vancouver Island inter alia, but those places were mostly or totally uninhabited and it was necessary. That is most definitely NOT the case along the various caminos. In short I think camping is miserly, insensitive to local feelings and property rights, and conducive to giving all of us a bad name. It's hard to believe that on the same forum where hard-up albergues are begging for financial support there are those who advocate paying nothing at all for the priceless privilege of using the caminos.
Look at some previous posts on this threadJust out of curiosity has anyone had any interactions with the gardia when camping along any camino ? What are the penalties? (or do they just tell you to get up and go?)
You did. You just didn't notice what all the others noticedI spent 35 days at sea in a small yacht in 2000 (actually did break this down to France to Madeira, Madeira to Brazil with a re supply in Madeira). We didn't stink.
It seems we need a thread about camping in legally, established campsites, with paid services and amenities.
The trick to stealth camping is to bed down late evening and be away very early and leave no trace. It also helps not to advertise where you are or by making it overwhelmingly obvious. I used to work in policing and one of the common maxims was along the lines of "if you do not see there is a problem then generally there isn't one" (mostly at the end of a shift) - that also applies to the impact your behaviour has on local people as in " if they do not see or have any consequences to your actions they are less likely to involve policia locale or Civil. I would suggest fires are a definite no no.
I also do not advocate tents as they are too visible and more of an imposition that would not allow anyone to simply turn a blind eye. Bivvy bags are better as they go under the radar and even in half light almost invisible. I also reckoned on a 2 nights out 1 night in rule of thumb figuring that 2 nights roughing it freed up money to spend in a hostel. It also completely opens up camino stages as you are not bound by daily goals and can stop where and when you like. Albergue full - no problem keep on walking till you find somewhere discrete and put the mat out.
A flip side to this is, and has to be, safety. I always let my partner know where I am bivvied out and text in the morning. Never had a problem but you need to be situationally aware when choosing a site and mindful of your surroundings. Plus take enough water to last the night and have a fix on where that first coffee is to be found in the morning.
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My point was that if you attract attention then you generally receive it. I always thought that wild camping in Spain was illegal (although in Pyrenees there are exceptions I think). I did walk for a couple of day with a policia locale from Barcelona and I asked him about it. His view was also that it was illegal but that unless you were way out of order you were unlikely to be troubled by law enforcement.To be honest I cannot recall any campsites along any of the caminos I have walked so I guess the question of legality is academic. Unlike UK though plently of open space and "wilderness" areas.
@Anamiri:We have an issue in New Zealand with "Freedom Camping", and one of the benefits of the Covid 19 lockdown has that the ban has been policed - forcing these campers to move on to campgrounds and fining them if they persist, resulting in the people who live in these areas, petitioning to have the ban on these campers policed permanently.
The Covid situation has brought out a strong sense of wanting keeping the environment clean in communities.
Only self contained vans are permitted to 'freedom camp" tents and non-fitted vans are not. The emphasis is on being self-contained.
The culprits are often basic van campers, sometimes with tents, travelling on the cheap, who leave a huge and unsanitary mess behind them. There are of course proper camping grounds around as well which do have facilities, these people are avoiding the camp fees.
Some campers do clean up after themselves, but evidence shows that most of them do not.
I dont believe people would behave any differently in Spain (our wild campers are mainly from other countries), people are people. The odd one would be conscientious and leave no trace, others would not care.
On another note, last year the numbers we met that started at Sarria seemed to have increased from my previous Camino 2 years earlier.
Most of these people carried very tiny daypacks. I have a suspicion that carrying a larger pack with everything to allow camping, would not be so appealing.
I think on the whole wilderness trampers (hikers) are not considered too much of a threat to the environment. I'm pretty sure they (mainly) abide by the pack it in -pack it out rule - although I have encountered the remains of food sachets and plastic bags in the middle of no-where, so some do not care. Ive also found the remains of fires in the bush and by beaches in fire-ban drought seasons, where the no-fire signs were clearly obvious.@Anamiri:
Only once in my life did I practice what you call "freedom camping" and that was in New Zealand, on the last night of the Round the Mountain Track on North Island. I did not get to the hut before sunset and it was too dark to go on, so I set up my bed on the mountain side (no tent or sleeping gear). There was a soft bed of moss next to a stream, very comfortable. But I was cold, too cold to stay asleep. So I slept, woke up to watch the southern stars on that moonless night, then fell asleep again. It was my best night on a trail ever, so beautiful, and my best memory from New Zealand. I do not plan on wild camping on the caminos, but if I need to do so, I want to be minimally prepared to deal safely with the challenges that might arise. If there are legal challenges I shall deal with those too.
Put it this way: Would you let strangers camp in your backyard even if they promise to clean up afterwards?Yes I did this back in August/September 2012 brought a Bivi tent with me. Locals will tell u off if they catch u but it's easy to do saves money and makes it more of an adventure. (I think it maybe illegal or really frowned upon - because you don't pay anyone or ask permission) However I feel, If u clean up after yourself then there is no trace u even there. Bonus - beautiful clear night sky with the moon and stars
I would for sure!Put it this way: Would you let strangers camp in your backyard even if they promise to clean up afterwards?
I would, I have, and I will. Many have done it for me, why should I be less generous?Put it this way: Would you let strangers camp in your backyard even if they promise to clean up afterwards?
Put it this way: Would you let strangers camp in your backyard even if they promise to clean up afterwards?
Yes , It is not legal and most of the time there is not a land owner to be seen to ask for permission.
People state it is illegal to camp
Many laws are framed so that if a social behaviour is deemed to be a problem, steps can be taken to stop it, but in the normal course of events it is not taken to be illegal.
With wild camping there would never be more than a small amount of people who are either willing to put up with that basic form of accommodation - or (and this is a point widely ignored by the wealthier folk it seems!) too poor to have any other option.
Maybe those who denigrate other peoples choice of mode of travel
I didn't see the post in quite the same light. I saw the post as speculating whether camping laws in Spain might be like "public nuisance" laws in other countries. The suggestion was that these laws don't make an activity (like gathering in public) illegal per se, but rather only make it illegal when it becomes a nuisance. So it isn't a question of giving the police an option not to enforce a law against an illegal activity, but rather flexibility around when that activity is actually illegal, and leaving it completely legal until it becomes a nuisance.If there are laws that give the police the defined option to not enforce that law, then that is stated in that law. So the relevant question is, does that option exist within the legal prohibitions attached to wild camping?
You are arguing that extenuating circumstances make it acceptable to have discussions on how to violate established law. The issues you raised are not behind the discussions in this thread. The issues have primarily centered around personal choices as a preference. . . apart from issues of affluence or poverty.
I didn't see the post in quite the same light. I saw the post as speculating whether camping laws in Spain might be like "public nuisance" laws in other countries. The suggestion was that these laws don't make an activity (like gathering in public) illegal per se, but rather only make it illegal when it becomes a nuisance. So it isn't a question of giving the police an option not to enforce a law against an illegal activity, but rather flexibility around when that activity is actually illegal, and leaving it completely legal until it becomes a nuisance.
Personally, I don't know if the laws against camping in Spain are framed that way. Neither, I think, is hecate105, who just seemed to be speculating that they might be so framed and, if so, wind camping might not be as illegal as was being presented. In that light, I'm not so sure it was a case of advocating for people to disregard laws and act illegally, but rather look carefully at the laws to determine what is illegal.
I think that we have adequately presented to the forum members the fact that camping is not legal in many places and circumstances in Spain, but that any casual observer will see that it is sometimes practiced.
Perhaps we should leave it to the forum members to pursue their detailed research and hire legal teams as appropriate.
Why not if they would like that more than sleeping in "proper" beds in my house...Put it this way: Would you let strangers camp in your backyard even if they promise to clean up afterwards?
Camping - short word; lots of argument. As a kid I spent much time in ex-army Bell tents; Benders (cut some Hazel stakes, bend them into a tunnel shape, throw some hides or a tarpaulin over) or the occasional Vango - none of which are recommended for the Caminos. On Camino I've spent nights in Church porches, barns, hedgerows, not overly derelict buildings and even underneath a bench in a bar which was still open when I awoke the following morning. I don't carry a tent - to much weight - but I do carry a sleeping bag that'll cope with a 0'C night.
The OP asked: "Hi there! I'm looking to bring a tent and post up along the way instead of staying at hostels. Is this possible? Even if there aren't designated camp spots along the way, are there spots off to the sides to discretely set up camp?" To which the only realistic answer is "Yes", possibly qualified with a "but". Unfortunately the OP doesn't appear to have returned to the Forum since they posed the question which suggests they weren't that bothered about any possible answers. Meanwhile members have rehearsed the old arguments of practicality, utility and legality. Its good to see a discussion that doesn't involve a bloody virus but a shame its one we've had so many times before.
Because it is not illegal in many circumstances, and if people choose to camp legally then they have as much right to walk as anyone else, no matter what their funds. I think you must have forgotten that for many the whole point of the pilgrimage is to travel to the tomb of St James which is not on the Appalachian or John Muir trail.why do it if its illegal,
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I'm hopeful that it can work. I met a handful of pilgrims on the GR65 from Le Puy to St. Jean-Pied-de-Port (Camino Podiensis) who preferred tenting over the albergues.
I think France is more "camping friendly". I used to follow the blog of an Australian couple who hiked exclusively in France every summer and they always camped at campgrounds on all the many trails...they enjoyed splurging on food and drink rather than lodging.There seemed to be more campgrounds from Le Puy, and more gîtes listed where camping was welcome.
Is it a viable option to walk the camino Frances camping all the way during the C-19 pandemic, as an alternative to staying in albergues? Not for the foreseeable future.........And that's assuming people will let you into their shops.....not only will the potential for carrying the infection be dangerous for others, possibly illegal and unlikely to elicit a warm welcome, but the mess along the way will be pretty gruesome too, despoiling the environment for locals and for the rest of us when we return.
People, please just be patient and wait.
do you happen to know which albergue in zubiri? san anton is convento de san anton before castrojeriz?Zubiri, San Anton, and Roncesvalles come to mind.
To see how well it can work to have pilgrims sleeping in tents one only has to look at France. It‘s common there, never witnessed any littering because of it, tent pilgrims still spend money in the local towns and for their camping spots at the gites (albergues).
Easy ways of making the Camino in Spain more tent-friendly, too:
1) If an albergue has the space for tents and allows camping, indicate it at the entrance. Put up a sign „tents welcome“ and a price if you want to. No more need to ask/beg at every place only to be send away at most of them. Albergues have to realize that pilgrims with tents are just the same as others, and no homeless hobos looking for a spot to sleep for free and leaving a mess behind.
2) Include the information about tent-friendly albergues and campsites in the albergue list you get at St Jean. Guide books will follow soon. Miam Miam Do Do for the French part of the Camino / GR 65 for example lists all this. That way you can plan your stages just like everyone else.
3) Create simple „official wild campsites“. Already existing picnic-places for pilgrims could be used for that. Often there‘s already a bench, a bin and a water tap. Add a compost toilet and it‘s perfect. Only thing you need then is someone to come and collect a small fee in the evening. Bonus points if that campsite is close to a town, so that pilgrims can still go for shopping, a meal or a beer and spend the money the locals so desperately need.
That way you have the tent-pilgrims in designated spots, and the whole wild camping debate is irrelevant and everybody's happy.
Absolutely, camping should not be used as a means of evading the precautions needed to slow the spread of Covid-19. But I don't think that anyone has suggested that camping on the Camino be so used. Mostly, I've seen it suggested as (a) a way of saving money and (b) a way to extend the capacity when the Camino has been opened up for walking and travel between provinces and autonomous regions in Spain has been permitted again as restrictions are gradually relaxed and Spain attempts to get the economy moving again.Is it possible to walk the camino Frances camping all the way instead of staying in albergues? Yes, it's possible in normal times and there's a small contingent of people who have done it, although most that camp also mix it up with albergues etc. And some of us just carry a light shelter for contingencies that almost never occur.
Is it a viable option to walk the camino Frances camping all the way during the C-19 pandemic, as an alternative to staying in albergues? Not for the foreseeable future.
In a phase where Spain is trying to prevent the spread of the infection, how do you deal with all the daily necessary tasks (eating, drinking, toileting etc) without catching or carrying the infection along the route - for which you'd need to clean everything you touch and maintain social distancing? What do you do in the big cities and when you reach Santiago? And that's assuming people will let you into their shops etc along the way. Consider: where do you relieve yourself if bars are closed?
I guess that anyone considering this is thinking mostly about their personal journey, but it's important to appreciate the Camino as a collective endeavour. What if thousands of people decided to camp all the way? We already know from the litter and effluent that some deposit along the way that not everyone has the same sense of social responsibility - and there'll always be a proportion that just don't care.
If even a small percentage of folks who planned to walk 2020 start to think camping is a viable option for this year, not only will the potential for carrying the infection be dangerous for others, possibly illegal and unlikely to elicit a warm welcome, but the mess along the way will be pretty gruesome too, despoiling the environment for locals and for the rest of us when we return.
People, please just be patient and wait.
do you happen to know which albergue in zubiri? san anton is convento de san anton before castrojeriz?
I am updating my list of albergues and campings.
thanks!
Do wet wipes decompose? I thought they were toilet blockers!I spent 35 days at sea in a small yacht in 2000 (actually did break this down to France to Madeira, Madeira to Brazil with a re supply in Madeira). 150 litres of water each leg for two of us for all purposes other than drinking. Sea water for flushing the toilet. We didn't wash other than face and hands. Hair wash once a week in salt water with a 1.5 litre bottle of drinking water to rinse off the salt. Wet wipes. We didn't stink. Showers are not essential to life. When camping it is considered acceptable to wash in cold water when the weather is warm. When the weather is cold then wet wipes.
I dont know. ALL our rubbish other than veg peelings went in bin -bags for disposal on shore.Do wet wipes decompose? I thought they were toilet blockers!All these old tales remind me of my navy days ( Royal) when we used sea water showers
The Malingerer.
thank you for this!I saw several tents at the Zubiri Municipal. I bet if you asked, El Palo de Avellano might also let you camp for a very small fee. They have a huge backyard. You might ask Rebekkah of Moratiños if they're going to allow camping in tents at San Anton. They have in the past. And yes, the one right before castrojeriz. They don't open their gates, however, until at least 2 pm. Honestly, I'd just send out emails to those albergues you know have yards. I've also camped in Hospital de Orbigo at the Municipal in their back yard. You also might check with Orisson. And between Orisson and the summit, years ago, there was a tipi set up for sleeping - I'm not sure who owns that property, but you could check with the Pilgrim Office in Roncesvalles.
If I think of others I'll let you know.
Caminka, I'm going to PM you.
Would you please send me a copy of your list, once you have it?
Thanks!
I was hospitalero there a few years ago.......... if they're going to allow camping in tents at San Anton. They have in the past.
I was hospitalero there a few years ago.
I had been resting on one of the obligatory green Catholic benches when I heard a crack above my head which had me get up and move like lightning. A small part of the ruined wall had broken away. What did fall to the ground was not much but nonetheless , a direct hit on the head could have killed me. Sooooooooo , if ever you do get to camp there , stay away from the walls.
Yes, sorry, parochial. St. Michael's? I'll have to ask Joe.thank you for this!
I am collecting options. I know situations change and hospitaleros change, but if there is a list, you at least know there are options.
I wouldn't expect an albergue to change hours or anything else to accommodate tent pilgrims. I would expect everything would be the same, except you slept in your tent (hopefully with the access to the loo in the night).
I gather you meant parroquial in hospital de orbigo? municipal was in the campground and has been closed for years.
I've seen pictures of tents behind orisson, yes. I remember they had a reduced half-pension if the beds in the albergue were full. maybe they stoped doing that when they opened gite kayola.
the list is actually in the resources, here's the link.
While this has not been the norm in the recent past for various reasons, I hope it will be more widely permitted for the next two years. It will be safer until there's a vaccine. Pay the donitivo or nightly rate and camp in the yard if there is one. There are few actual campgrounds along the three routes I've walked. In El Burgo Ranero when I volunteered there was a town park adjacent where many camped, not necessarily pilgrims. There is a risk of only people who can afford private hotels on the caminos if camping isn't an option.Hi there! I'm looking to bring a tent and post up along the way instead of staying at hostels. Is this possible? Even if there aren't designated camp spots along the way, are there spots off to the sides to discretely set up camp? Has anyone done this before and if so, any tips?
Thank you in advance!
A very , very special place - I think that a handful of pilgrims offered Ovideo their help on a permanent basis. This was a few years ago so one would probably think that it will be due for a change - Rebekah should know more?lol! I was hospitalera there a few years back also.
One of my favorite places to sleep and to help out.
A very , very special place - I think that a handful of pilgrims offered Ovideo their help on a permanent basis. This was a few years ago so one would probably think that it will be due for a change - Rebekah should know more?
Not Many places such as this come to mind - San Bol perhaps?
thank you for this!
I am collecting options. I know situations change and hospitaleros change, but if there is a list, you at least know there are options.
I wouldn't expect an albergue to change hours or anything else to accommodate tent pilgrims. I would expect everything would be the same, except you slept in your tent (hopefully with the access to the loo in the night).
I gather you meant parroquial in hospital de orbigo? municipal was in the campground and has been closed for years.
I've seen pictures of tents behind orisson, yes. I remember they had a reduced half-pension if the beds in the albergue were full. maybe they stoped doing that when they opened gite kayola.
the list is actually in the resources, here's the link.
I hope that you do not feel that this is a competition but we had a PAIR of baby owls in that small recess above the roof , they had just started to fly short distances.My favorite thing that happened at San Anton was the baby owl (who lived on the roof) we watched fledge.
I thought it was obvious that if you are not staying in the official campground, there is the same one night stay as in the albergue dorm. I didn't want to use different words (camping, tenting, bivouacing, bivvying, wild camping, stealth camping...) because I think it would be too confusing. camping is also the most widely understood, also for those not speaking english. but I will add an explanation at the start.I camp on the Camino last year and suggest you make difference between a night in camp and camping several nights on site . Camping is prohibited in France and Spain. One night is usually not an issue. Set up your tent late (after 7pm) and leave early (before 9:00). If you camp wild, try remote areas (1 mile
min out the Camino), you should not hear a dog barking.. Buen camino.
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