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this looks pretty frugal - good that is. i assume that you're carrying your backpack which weighs, maybe, 2 to 3 lbs.? Maybe add some light shoes/sandals for after your days walks, because one of the first things you will want to do at the end of a days walk is get out of your hiking shoes (?).Hi guys!! i just used the scale to see where I am with the clothing i am taking for my camino Portuguese coastal in September. What do you think about what i am taking? I tried to cut as much as i could but not sure if the clothing is comparable enough in weight to most. This list is just my clothing. Top part goes inside backpack and bottom is what i wearing. Since i am always cold i was also thinking about getting a merino long sleeve mid-weight but i think the wind/rain Jacket with the other layers be enough. This is the only other piece i would like to add. Not sure.
I feel the coast will be windy and i may freeze in the early mornings. So was thinking to add the long sleeve merino for warmth. The ones i have now are lightweight long sleeves to just protect from sun they are lightweight. Thank you for any advice.
Backpack
Fleece 9.65 oz
Rain jacket 10.45 oz
1 Pants 7.48 oz
2 Pair Socks 2.48 oz
1 Sport long Sleeve 6.16 oz
1 Bottom down long sleeve 5.47oz
1 Merino short sleeve 4.87 oz
1 Sarong 5.79 oz
1 Buff 1.77 oz
Sleep bag 30.27 oz
Poncho 14.61 oz
Towel 2.89 oz
2 undewear 1.18oz
1 Bra 2.25 oz
Gloves 1.39 oz
TOTAL inside backpack:
6.669 lb or 3.02 kg
Wearing
1 darn tough sock 2.03 oz
1 short sleeve shirt 4.68 oz
Underwear 0.76 oz
Bra 2.10 oz
Leggings 6.97 oz
also, don't forget to have some medical supplies - bandages, or whatever for blisters, etc.this looks pretty frugal - good that is. i assume that you're carrying your backpack which weighs, maybe, 2 to 3 lbs.? Maybe add some light shoes/sandals for after your days walks, because one of the first things you will want to do at the end of a days walk is get out of your hiking shoes (?).
I see sleeping bag and towel on the list. Is that a mistake?This list is just my clothing
Correct. An important detail is that this little first list is not counting the backpack itself which is 2lb. Yes i am trying to cut on the clothing as much as possible because some stuff like medications, Teva comfortable hiking sandals if needed because of blisters will be there to save me will be hard to cut. And they are not super super lightweight. Then toiletries, extra stufff and guidebook, etc... it all add. I imagine i will not reach my goal with all at 10 lb without water and snacks. I cant believe how i am committed to this camino being a person that usually use 5-10% of what i take to vacations. This is a nice radical change.this looks pretty frugal - good that is. i assume that you're carrying your backpack which weighs, maybe, 2 to 3 lbs.? Maybe add some light shoes/sandals for after your days walks, because one of the first things you will want to do at the end of a days walk is get out of your hiking shoes (?).
Yes i got all that i will sort out how much i will take and weight at the end. Thank youalso, don't forget to have some medical supplies - bandages, or whatever for blisters, etc.
Yes sorry i added few extra items not really clothing related. it was already close to me and since the sleeping bag is the heaviest item i got i want to account for it right away. I am very curious about how heavy it will all be at the end. I am shocked how much every little thing adds up. If i see when i am there that my knee is not making it well, i will do the luggage transfer for some breaks.I see sleeping bag and towel on the list. Is that a mistake?
Ten pounds is very light. I always tried for under 15 lbs, and I usually end up at around 14.5 lbs. When I did the Portuguese Camino from Porto I went a bit lighter - 12 lbs. Don't get stuck on a number. Just take the essentials, and if you can carry it comfortably for 15 miles or so then it's all good.I imagine i will not reach my goal with all at 10 lb without water and snacks.
Yes, as they say, ounces lead to pounds and pounds lead to pain!I am shocked how much every little thing adds up.
Yes, you are right David and all these extras including phones and little cable, charger, power adapter... adds up.Sounds nicely trim to me, a great list .. tell me, why both a rain jacket and a poncho? Is the rain jacket for light misty rain (and even as a windbreaker) and then the poncho to go over the top, protecting the pack too?
Also - don't forget to factor in guide book, paperwork, purse/wallet, money, phone and charger, first aid kit, corkscrew (oh yes), spork, toothbrush and paste, soap, flannel, toilet paper/tissues .. and maybe small containers for sea salt, real ground pepper, and olive oil (or is that just me?) plus any waterproof bags you put items into.
Yes the towel is very tiny. The sarong is mostly for if i share a room i can use for hanging from the bunk bed to avoid light and a bit of privacy, also if i need i can also use as a towel too like u said. I may rethink that later on then after i check the total weight. Thank u that is great advice about checking it all and not be stuck on the number.Ten pounds is very light. I always tried for under 15 lbs, and I usually end up at around 14.5 lbs. When I did the Portuguese Camino from Porto I went a bit lighter - 12 lbs. Don't get stuck on a number. Just take the essentials, and if you can carry it comfortably for 15 miles or so then it's all good.
May I ask why you are taking a sarong? I know that lots of people use them for different things, but the one time I took one I brought it instead instead of a towel. I see that you have a towel listed, but it's very lightweight, so maybe just a face towel?
Remember one important thing: Whatever you buy at home, it is one more item you may have to throw away bc. of weight issues. All you discover that you really need, can be bought (much cheaper) while walking there. Portugal & Spain are very civilized countries.you guys and youtube are teaching me a lot. All i know is that the store and amazon is “loving” me as i didn't have 90% of this stuff. All the sudden the ticket became so cheap! Lol Exciting seeing the pack starting to be prepared!
Yes thank you. That is what i think i will do about this Mid weight merino long sleeve and also the hiking poles. Buy both there. I will be there anyways a week before i start hiking, so if i see it gets really cold for me i buy another layer there.Remember one important thing: Whatever you buy at home, it is one more item you may have to throw away bc. of weight issues. All you discover that you really need, can be bought (much cheaper) while walking there. Portugal & Spain are very civilized countries.
Also, some albergues, especially at the beginning of each Camino, have leftovers from earlier pilgrims with too much in their packs. You can find poles, clothes, whatever, for free there. Ask. They will be happy to give it to you.Yes thank you. That is what i think i will do about this Mid weight merino long sleeve and also the hiking poles. Buy both there. I will be there anyways a week before i start hiking, so if i see it gets really cold for me i buy another layer there.
Oh wow. I was planning to leave the poles there too. In this case i would not even need to go shop around. Just borrow for some days and leave it maybe in Compostela! But i may buy them because if i start without maybe the next little villages don't have stores selling them. Only the bigger cities?Also, some albergues, especially at the beginning of each Camino, have leftovers from earlier pilgrims with too much in their packs. You can find poles, clothes, whatever, for free there. Ask. They will be happy to give it to you.
This is awesome will study it now. Thank you.If it is any help to you, i added ounces to my current spreadsheet for comparison.
Some stuff you got seems heavier, some lighter. Being a guy, i save the bra, but still, about 1kg less clothing in backpack.
EDIT: Forget what i said. I just seen, that you included sleeping bag and stuff in those 3kg. Thats very good indeed!
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If you need poles, buy them when there. Cheaper. My golden rule:Oh wow. I was planning to leave the poles there too. In this case i would not even need to go shop around. Just borrow for some days and leave it maybe in Compostela! But i may buy them because if i start without maybe the next little villages don't have stores selling them. Only the bigger cities?
I agree, you haven't really enjoyed the Camino experience until your pack fails to meet up with when you get to Europe.If you need poles, buy them when there. Cheaper. My golden rule:
If I know I'll need it, I'll get it. If I think I need it, it stays at home.
That is also the reason I use a backpack that is allowed as carry-on on planes: Not possible to overpack, and always with me.
Don't do what I did and leave your sarong hanging as a curtain! One night on the Norte I was in the bottom bunk of a bed that was on the end of a row, with open space on each side. I hung the sarong up as a curtain on the side that was facing another bunk, leaving just the side with open space uncovered. In the morning, when I was packing up I did so on that "open" side of my bed, and completely forgot my sarong! Fortunately, I was walking through Bilbao that day, and the Decathlon store there is only a couple of blocks off the Camino, so I bought a lightweight towel there, but it wasn't as pretty as my blue and white sarong.Yes the towel is very tiny. The sarong is mostly for if i share a room i can use for hanging from the bunk bed to avoid light and a bit of privacy, also if i need i can also use as a towel too like u said. I may rethink that later on then after i check the total weight. Thank u that is great advice about checking it all and not be stuck on the number.
I will try to be very careful. Thank u. I will bring the eye mask but im not sure if i can sleep with those things. Lol Funny the sarong i got is also blue. But blue and black.Don't do what I did and leave your sarong hanging as a curtain! One night on the Norte I was in the bottom bunk of a bed that was on the end of a row, with open space on each side. I hung the sarong up as a curtain on the side that was facing another bunk, leaving just the side with open space uncovered. In the morning, when I was packing up I did so on that "open" side of my bed, and completely forgot my sarong! Fortunately, I was walking through Bilbao that day, and the Decathlon store there is only a couple of blocks off the Camino, so I bought a lightweight towel there, but it wasn't as pretty as my blue and white sarong.
To avoid light I use an eye mask.
I have become so used to wearing the eye mask that I use it at home sometimes now! Make sure that you get one with molded eye cups so that your eyelashes don't hit it.I will bring the eye mask but im not sure if i can sleep with those things.
Yes i got one of these at tJmaxx, we will see. Im an insomniac no matter what! I just imagine with this stuff in my head. hopefully i don't need to be in a hotel every night. As i want to experience this part of the camino too. My body will tell and i will need to obey.I have become so used to wearing the eye mask that I use it at home sometimes now! Make sure that you get one with molded eye cups so that your eyelashes don't hit it.
Something like these
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I see them occasionally in Marshalls and TJMaxx for a few dollars.
. . and that weight stresses our bodies - our bodies aren't designed to be load bearers, they are designed to be light and fast hunters.
and that is why we pack light - so if we will use it, take it .. if we may use it, leave it at home.
Let's extend this to include pharmacies and medical services. Seen people carrying first aid kits and medication as if they would be going on an extended expedition in antarctica...I would add, if you are tempted to pack and item 'Just In Case', go to Google Maps and open it up to Spain. Do a search for retail stores. Then take comfort at how densely packed the map becomes with pins for shops and grocers. If you discover that you need something, you will be able to find it.
carried | worn | ||
Hat | 0 | 87 | Could have had lighter, but I like this hat. (Tilley) |
Loose silk robe, knee-length | 75 | 0 | Worn evenings and in bed. |
Down quilt/poncho | 560 | 0 | Home made. Used just once as a poncho on a cool evening but often as blanket at night. |
3 pants (underwear) | 70 | 25 | The heavier ones are ultra quick dry. |
bra | 0 | 100 | Didn’t wash and dry overnight as I’d hoped, so I bought a second en-route (+57gm) |
Walking trousers (pants) | 291 | 0 | |
Knee length walking trousers (pants) | 0 | 175 | |
Long sleeved walking blouse (shirt) | 0 | 170 | Dried v quickly, worn daily. |
Short sleeved walking T shirt | 108 | 0 | Mostly worn in evening, could have worn under blouse if necessary. |
Long sleeved silk blouse (shirt) | 29 | 0 | Hardly wore this, unnecessary. |
Merino cardigan (warm/smart layer) | 205 | 0 | Left in albergue, replaced with a fleece someone had left behind elsewhere. 190 gm so "saved"15gm! |
3 prs walking socks | 118 | 58 | Could have used to keep hands warm if necessary. |
Waterproof jacket | 360 | 0 | Would have worn if cold |
Waterproof over trousers | 70 | 0 | Would have worn over walking trousers if cold. |
1886 | 615 | 2501gm = 66oz+21oz =5lb 7oz total |
Corkscrew? A wine drinker, I never needed one on my 5 past Camino‘s. Guidebook = mobile phone.Sounds nicely trim to me, a great list .. tell me, why both a rain jacket and a poncho? Is the rain jacket for light misty rain (and even as a windbreaker) and then the poncho to go over the top, protecting the pack too?
Also - don't forget to factor in guide book, paperwork, purse/wallet, money, phone and charger, first aid kit, corkscrew (oh yes), spork, toothbrush and paste, soap, flannel, toilet paper/tissues .. and maybe small containers for sea salt, real ground pepper, and olive oil (or is that just me?) plus any waterproof bags you put items into.
Hi David!With the mention of Googling shops and pharmacies above, and Spain being a modern civilised country, we could even just use a double bum belt (fanny pack) or one of those tiny backpacks runners use. Water, toothbrush and paste, flannel, light poncho ..... if it gets cold? Why, be cold, and next day buy a fleece.
Underwear, shorts, shirt, get worn or smelly? Pop into a supermarket and buy the cheapest replacements - they don't have to be trekking clothing, just clothing, then bin the old stuff.
I am not saying that anyone should - only mentioning that someone could.
Yes! This happened to me. I didn't bring any poles and opted not to buy some when we were in Porto. I realized when we got to Viana do Castelo that I desperately needed poles (we were doing the coastal route). However, we checked everywhere in Viana do Castelo and every town after for anything that could work and didn't find a store with poles until the Decathalon in Vigo. Yes, Spain and Portugal have stores with items you can purchase, but it may be a few days of painful walking before you get to a town with one of those stores.Oh wow. I was planning to leave the poles there too. In this case i would not even need to go shop around. Just borrow for some days and leave it maybe in Compostela! But i may buy them because if i start without maybe the next little villages don't have stores selling them. Only the bigger cities?
Good question.Question, why rain coat and poncho?
Have been to Europe several times i will not be guessing around with my knee without a walking pole because i know that sometimes even “food” lol is hard to find at certain hours because everything is closed in mid of the day. One must be aware and respect cultural differences.Yes! This happened to me. I didn't bring any poles and opted not to buy some when we were in Porto. I realized when we got to Viana do Castelo that I desperately needed poles (we were doing the coastal route). However, we checked everywhere in Viana do Castelo and every town after for anything that could work and didn't find a store with poles until the Decathalon in Vigo. Yes, Spain and Portugal have stores with items you can purchase, but it may be a few days of painful walking before you get to a town with one of those stores.
Yes Annie, i answered this already on post #12Good question.
Do you need BOTH?
Hi David.Sounds nicely trim to me, a great list .. tell me, why both a rain jacket and a poncho? Is the rain jacket for light misty rain (and even as a windbreaker) and then the poncho to go over the top, protecting the pack too?
Also - don't forget to factor in guide book, paperwork, purse/wallet, money, phone and charger, first aid kit, corkscrew (oh yes), spork, toothbrush and paste, soap, flannel, toilet paper/tissues .. and maybe small containers for sea salt, real ground pepper, and olive oil (or is that just me?) plus any waterproof bags you put items into.
I will definitely check for inspiration but with the all other stuff it will put me for sure around the 10% plus, so i will be careful but will try to find a balance, if i need to i use tuitrans then. I will be lucky to have this flexibility any time i want.You could search for a member called #spreadsheetdirtbags (IIRC) who is a petite female and posted her detailed packing list some time ago. She seems as particular as our good friend #anhalter in terms of minimising weight.
here you go: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...ions-thoughts-on-each-item.64295/#post-884922
I will definitely check for inspiration but with the all other stuff it will put me for sure around the 10% plus, so i will be careful but will try to find a balance, if i need to i use tuitrans then. I will be lucky to have this flexibility any time i want.
But as i am adding things to my list i realize how big the list gets and weight goes along with it. This here is basically just clothing.
I don't want to waste too much time there looking for stores and buying stuff (other than food and hope not a pharmacy). I want to enjoy it. Will try to not have too much to not hurt myself and not too little that i need to go hunt for things. If i knew i was going to carry it for sure the whole path from Porto to SDC then in that case, i would want to leave more behind. It is shocking how the other stuff beyond clothing add so much weight.This new frugal study really will improve how i also pack for other regular vacations. This is the camino packing school!
Always good advice!An old adage - spread out all your packing items and your money on your bed - take half the packing items and twice the money.
She said this list was just her clothes, so first aid, etc, wouldn't be on this list.Sounds nicely trim to me, a great list .. tell me, why both a rain jacket and a poncho? Is the rain jacket for light misty rain (and even as a windbreaker) and then the poncho to go over the top, protecting the pack too?
Also - don't forget to factor in guide book, paperwork, purse/wallet, money, phone and charger, first aid kit, corkscrew (oh yes), spork, toothbrush and paste, soap, flannel, toilet paper/tissues .. and maybe small containers for sea salt, real ground pepper, and olive oil (or is that just me?) plus any waterproof bags you put items into.
I just re-read Laurie Lee's As I walked out one midsummer morning -. .
How much water were you thinking of carrying? You'll need at least a litre (= 1 kg) when you set out in the morning. You haven't mentioned toiletries: soap, towel, toothbrush etc. or a simple first aid kit (as someone else mentioned). These add to the weight. You can manage with either a rain-jacket or a poncho, you don't need both (also mentioned elsewhere). If it doesn't rain in Portugal, you can guarantee it will in Galicia, so if you are expecting rain, put everything in dry sacks - easy to squash down small, easy to find things, don't make an annoying rustling sound when you get up in the morning and they keep stuff dry (pack covers are useless except for being fluorescent when you walk along roads in the dark). You could also substitute a long-sleeved merino for one (or both) of the other long-sleeved items. If you get cold, how about a lightweight down jacket instead of the fleece? They squash down very small and could be lighter than the fleece and are much warmer. But September isn't necessarily cold and wet in the north east of the Iberian peninsula. Take a hat or cap and think about sunscreen - seriously, if you are out all day in the sun, it is not good for the skin.Hi guys!! i just used the scale to see where I am with the clothing i am taking for my camino Portuguese coastal in September. What do you think about what i am taking? I tried to cut as much as i could but not sure if the clothing is comparable enough in weight to most. This list is just my clothing. Top part goes inside backpack and bottom is what i wearing. Since i am always cold i was also thinking about getting a merino long sleeve mid-weight but i think the wind/rain Jacket with the other layers be enough. This is the only other piece i would like to add. Not sure.
I feel the coast will be windy and i may freeze in the early mornings. So was thinking to add the long sleeve merino for warmth. The ones i have now are lightweight long sleeves to just protect from sun. Thank you for any advice.
Backpack
Fleece 9.65 oz
Rain jacket 10.45 oz
1 Pants 7.48 oz
2 Pair Socks 2.48 oz
1 Sport long Sleeve 6.16 oz
1 Bottom down long sleeve 5.47oz
1 Merino short sleeve 4.87 oz
1 Sarong 5.79 oz
1 Buff 1.77 oz
Sleep bag 30.27 oz
Poncho 14.61 oz
Towel 2.89 oz
2 undewear 1.18oz
1 Bra 2.25 oz
Gloves 1.39 oz
TOTAL inside backpack:
6.669 lb or 3.02 kg
Wearing
1 darn tough sock 2.03 oz
1 short sleeve shirt 4.68 oz
Underwear 0.76 oz
Bra 2.10 oz
Leggings 6.97 oz
Shoes Hoka Stinsons 19.16
Not all pilgrimages go to Santiago. 'As I Walked Out One Midsummer's Morning' made a huge impression on the 19 year old me, so last visit to the UK (pre-camino) I made a point of visiting Slad. I also re-read the book recently and found an addition - an account of his involvement in the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War which was omitted in the 70's version for fear it would implicate local people, Franco being still alive at that point. The stone house is the old schoolhouse and the pub seems to have not changed much (although the beer may have improved).It would seem that at the core of all packing lists are two things. Fear and comfort. (Maybe there is a third, the joy of making packing lists).
Fear that we won't be able to cope "if that happens" and comfort in that we want to take those things that make our lives more comfortable, that our mobile 'home' should be like living at 'home' which, if you think about it, is ludicrous.
But we see how the packing list changes with those who go on multiple Caminos .. each time they take less and less - they become less fearful, have less need for that mythical comfort, more aware that the universe cannot be controlled, you just have to walk through it as it happens, that always All is Well, and if a problem arises? They will sort that one when/if it happens.
With the mention of Googling shops and pharmacies above, and Spain being a modern civilised country, we could even just use a double bum belt (fanny pack) or one of those tiny backpacks runners use. Water, toothbrush and paste, flannel, light poncho ..... if it gets cold? Why, be cold, and next day buy a fleece.
Underwear, shorts, shirt, get worn or smelly? Pop into a supermarket and buy the cheapest replacements - they don't have to be trekking clothing, just clothing, then bin the old stuff.
I am not saying that anyone should - only mentioning that someone could.
I just re-read Laurie Lee's As I walked out one midsummer morning - a fifty year returning. 1930's he strolls across Spain in an old two piece suit, the same shoes he wore in London on the building site, violin wrapped in a blanket tied with rope over his shoulder ... stumbling across Mesetas in burning summer the young fool doesn't even carry water. Often he gets tired and beds down under the stars, stops overnight in poverty-stricken village inns and is given a straw mattress in the only room, sleeping with the sons and surrounded by pigs and chickens.
He never seems to change his clothes, rarely bathes, shaves ..... he gets rescued a lot, people are kind, gypsies take him in, children show him the way to an inn .... now, I am not saying we should Camino like this, not at all, but perhaps, just perhaps, we need less ... in summer? Strolling through Spain? Maybe we need less?
If you are in Oporto, they definitely have a Decathlon (pretty sure there'll be one in Lisbon too, but I would Google it first).Yes thank you. That is what i think i will do about this Mid weight merino long sleeve and also the hiking poles. Buy both there. I will be there anyways a week before i start hiking, so if i see it gets really cold for me i buy another layer there.
Yes i will be enjoying both cities before i head to the camino and will look for a pair.If you are in Oporto, they definitely have a Decathlon (pretty sure there'll be one in Lisbon too, but I would Google it first).
Thank you. Yes i am still creating the FULL list. Yes i plan to carry two of those small water bottles and refil as i go to not carry too much weight. Water is heavy. That counting there is enough area to fill up in route if not i need to bring more water. That is interesting your point of substitute fleece+ wind/rain jacket with just one down Jacket. I wonder if would be lighter just the down jacket and i could just leave home what i bought and buy this lightweight jacket.How much water were you thinking of carrying? You'll need at least a litre (= 1 kg) when you set out in the morning. You haven't mentioned toiletries: soap, towel, toothbrush etc. or a simple first aid kit (as someone else mentioned). These add to the weight. You can manage with either a rain-jacket or a poncho, you don't need both (also mentioned elsewhere). If it doesn't rain in Portugal, you can guarantee it will in Galicia, so if you are expecting rain, put everything in dry sacks - easy to squash down small, easy to find things, don't make an annoying rustling sound when you get up in the morning and they keep stuff dry (pack covers are useless except for being fluorescent when you walk along roads in the dark). You could also substitute a long-sleeved merino for one (or both) of the other long-sleeved items. If you get cold, how about a lightweight down jacket instead of the fleece? They squash down very small and could be lighter than the fleece and are much warmer. But September isn't necessarily cold and wet in the north east of the Iberian peninsula. Take a hat or cap and think about sunscreen - seriously, if you are out all day in the sun, it is not good for the skin.
By the way (and I know I am going to attract some flak for saying it) this idea that you shouldn't carry more than 10% of your body weight needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Does a short, skinny pilgrim really require less than a tall overweight pilgrim?
Yes the tops are total with one i am wearing.@Renascer, Hi and I'm just focussing on your list.
My first impressions were how many tops you had. My count was six in the bag.
I would suggest you reconsider Fleece and Poncho.
With the Rain Jacket, the 2 LS and 1 SS top in the bag that is 4 tops.
Add the one you wear. If it is really cold put all five on!!
With north American terminology I am not sure what "pants" are. I didn't notice similar stuff being worn. There might be some "in the bag" savings here.
With two left behind that is 24 oz saved. If the pants are not in the bag the total saved there is around 32 oz (2 lbs) from the bag.
So I say to you, kia kaha (be strong, take care) from now until you return home.
I didn't mean ditch the rain jacket - just replace the fleece with a down jacket - lighter, smaller, and warmer. And please do not rely on filling up with water as you go, make sure you have at least 1 litre when you set out in the morning. Here in Australia we take the risk of dehydration very seriously and whereas cold is uncomfortable, being dehydrated is life-threatening.Thank you. Yes i am still creating the FULL list. Yes i plan to carry two of those small water bottles and refil as i go to not carry too much weight. Water is heavy. That counting there is enough area to fill up in route if not i need to bring more water. That is interesting your point of substitute fleece+ wind/rain jacket with just one down Jacket. I wonder if would be lighter just the down jacket and i could just leave home what i bought and buy this lightweight jacket.
Those two bottles is not enough if i keep them full? They will be one liter total, as i walk and drink i fill to the top again. Should i carry more? I plan to walk around 20 miles . And if I see that there is no city in between i would carry more. For the Portuguese with many cities in between how much water you guys carry? I have never done this so i dont know. I dont want to risk. I was imagining that in that path there is always a village to refill my 1 liter again if needed? I am going in September if that matters.I didn't mean ditch the rain jacket - just replace the fleece with a down jacket - lighter, smaller, and warmer. And please do not rely on filling up with water as you go, make sure you have at least 1 litre when you set out in the morning. Here in Australia we take the risk of dehydration very seriously and whereas cold is uncomfortable, being dehydrated is life-threatening.
\love laurie Lee - have several books of his!I loved that trilogy. I enjoyed the read of each book so much, trying to choose a favorite ain't happening
I do have the three books, plus a few more of his writings. Dang, now you made me get all, like, got to go read them again.
Those two bottles is not enough if i keep them full? They will be one liter total, as i walk and drink i fill to the top again. Should i carry more? I plan to walk around 20 miles . And if I see that there is no city in between i would carry more. For the Portuguese with many cities in between how much water you guys carry? I have never done this so i dont know. I dont want to risk. I was imagining that in that path there is always a village to refill my 1 liter again if needed? I am going in September if that matters.
To each their own! I noticed you aren't wearing pants.Hi guys!! i just used the scale to see where I am with the clothing i am taking for my camino Portuguese coastal in September. What do you think about what i am taking? I tried to cut as much as i could but not sure if the clothing is comparable enough in weight to most. This list is just my clothing. Top part goes inside backpack and bottom is what i wearing. Since i am always cold i was also thinking about getting a merino long sleeve mid-weight but i think the wind/rain Jacket with the other layers be enough. This is the only other piece i would like to add. Not sure.
I feel the coast will be windy and i may freeze in the early mornings. So was thinking to add the long sleeve merino for warmth. The ones i have now are lightweight long sleeves to just protect from sun. Thank you for any advice.
Backpack
Fleece 9.65 oz
Rain jacket 10.45 oz
1 Pants 7.48 oz
2 Pair Socks 2.48 oz
1 Sport long Sleeve 6.16 oz
1 Bottom down long sleeve 5.47oz
1 Merino short sleeve 4.87 oz
1 Sarong 5.79 oz
1 Buff 1.77 oz
Sleep bag 30.27 oz
Poncho 14.61 oz
Towel 2.89 oz
2 undewear 1.18oz
1 Bra 2.25 oz
Gloves 1.39 oz
TOTAL inside backpack:
6.669 lb or 3.02 kg
Wearing
1 darn tough sock 2.03 oz
1 short sleeve shirt 4.68 oz
Underwear 0.76 oz
Bra 2.10 oz
Leggings 6.97 oz
Shoes Hoka Stinsons 19.16
I reverse walked the camino from Tui to Porto in November (I was heading home and had time before my flight), and It was still quite pleasant walking weather.Depends when you are going - September weather can be really hot
Pants are in her backpack and she is wearing leggings.To each their own! I noticed you aren't wearing pants.
Pants are in her backpack and she is wearing leggings.
I didn't mean ditch the rain jacket - just replace the fleece with a down jacket - lighter, smaller, and warmer. And please do not rely on filling up with water as you go, make sure you have at least 1 litre when you set out in the morning. Here in Australia we take the risk of dehydration very seriously and whereas cold is uncomfortable, being dehydrated is life-threatening.
A tip you might find useful one day, if you get caught like that tie a length of cord around the outside of your poncho like a belt. Stops flapping but still provides protection. I give all my students plastic ponchos and nylon cord before starting out. Many cannot afford a rain jacket and by giving them to everyone those kids are not set apart. Also, I often carry small packages of poncho, cord and emergency blanket to give to those in need.I tried a poncho once. Walked into a storm in Portugal and it was like walking in a flock of panicking birds and I still got wet. I ditched it and bought a lightweight rain jacket there. My pack has a rain cover.
1 litre is the minimum. Ask someone e.g. the hospitalero or check the guidebook/app about what to expect for the next day's walk (always a good idea). If in doubt, buy a bottle of water from a local shop so you have extra. As I said, an bit of extra weight is better than becoming ill and don't get obsessed about keeping your weight to a minimum - an extra kilo or two won't kill you, dehydration can.Those two bottles is not enough if i keep them full? They will be one liter total, as i walk and drink i fill to the top again. Should i carry more? I plan to walk around 20 miles . And if I see that there is no city in between i would carry more. For the Portuguese with many cities in between how much water you guys carry? I have never done this so i dont know. I dont want to risk. I was imagining that in that path there is always a village to refill my 1 liter again if needed? I am going in September if that matters.
Correct. Two. One in the pack and one wearing.Pants are in her backpack and she is wearing leggings.
I did wrap a piece of webbing around my waist and it was still ridiculous.A tip you might find useful one day, if you get caught like that tie a length of cord around the outside of your poncho like a belt. Stops flapping but still provides protection. I give all my students plastic ponchos and nylon cord before starting out. Many cannot afford a rain jacket and by giving them to everyone those kids are not set apart. Also, I often carry small packages of poncho, cord and emergency blanket to give to those in need.
We lived in Oporto for three years. September is unpredictable - it can be very wet, it can be very hot, it shouldn't be particularly cold (depending on what you call 'cold', of course).I reverse walked the camino from Tui to Porto in November (I was heading home and had time before my flight), and It was still quite pleasant walking weather.
I take a second long sleeved merino instead of a fleece, and wear both if it’s cold. I have a down vest for evening warmth. The rain/wind jacket as your outer layer and your sarong as a scarf should keep you warm. While walking, you are likely to get toasty warm; it’s the breaks where you feel it get cool.
I don't see why. Most rain coats don't breath and you sweat and end up just as uncomfortable. We usually carry a windbreaker which folds up in its own pocket and sheds a light rains and when not in use it's a pillow. Depressing thing regardless of what you wear, the bottom half of you will get wet.(or knees down).Good question.
Do you need BOTH?
Amen.We need to think about this 10% thing ...
Glad someone else thinks so. It's handy to have a rule of thumb, until it becomes some kind of law and people agonise over how to comply. It doesn't make sense anyway - why should a short, slim pilgrim (55kgs) need less than a tall, slightly overweight pilgrim (80kgs)? I usually carry 10kgs or more on the camino when I 'should' only be carrying 7.5kgs or less. It doesn't kill me. On an overnight camp I might be carrying more than 15kgs and I am not a he-man. It is particularly disturbing when people start to leave behind stuff they might need, like warm clothing or water.Amen.
Some other pilgrims are starting to point out that the 10% doesn't have to be an iron rule, you can go over that without breaking the law (or a leg). And it is much quicker and simpler to ditch stuff you don't need (donate it or post it home) than run around trying to buy stuff you do need.I will definitely check for inspiration but with the all other stuff it will put me for sure around the 10% plus, so i will be careful but will try to find a balance, if i need to i use tuitrans then. I will be lucky to have this flexibility any time i want.
But as i am adding things to my list i realize how big the list gets and weight goes along with it. This here is basically just clothing.
I don't want to waste too much time there looking for stores and buying stuff (other than food and hope not a pharmacy). I want to enjoy it. Will try to not have too much to not hurt myself and not too little that i need to go hunt for things. If i knew i was going to carry it for sure the whole path from Porto to SDC then in that case, i would want to leave more behind. It is shocking how the other stuff beyond clothing add so much weight.This new frugal study really will improve how i also pack for other regular vacations. This is the camino packing school!
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If you're worried about it, try going for a long walk at home with bags of rice or something (e.g. the weekly shopping) in your backpack, equivalent to 10% of your weight, just to see how it feels.
Perhaps not, but maybe increased strength and endurance?Along with modifying my expectations on pack weight, I had to modify my expectations on distance as well. I may very well find I can do more, but recalculating the planning based on current distance vs what others do or the guidebook says was a good decision. I'm roughly 60 days out and I don't see myself having a burst of added ability before I go
While i congratulate you on the low weight of your packs content and the spirit of "if something is missing, i can get it"... the pack seems a bit on the heavy side for such a light content. Dont get me wrong, you'll likely be fine, but i guess you could easily save another 1lbs there without losing to much comfort.Pack weighs 2.5, contents 5.5
What do you think of the snugpac poncho? I’ve just bought one (not delivered yet though). I’m a little worried that I won’t be visible so have got a load of reflective decals to put on it.Yes, you are right David and all these extras including phones and little cable, charger, power adapter... adds up.About your question, yes the jacket is an Avalanche called weather shield is it is more to protect me from wind and cold because the only warm thing i have is the fleece and i am sure that with the wind on the coast i might feel cold. The fleece maybe not be enough for me. So that is the layer to break the wind and warm up. And the poncho i had a few flimpsy plastic ones at home but i think it is important spending money for better and appropriate equipment. Here is the poncho i just bought from amazon.
To cover me and pack from rain instead of just a pack cover. It is not super lightweight but have elastic for my arms. I didn't like the ones that the local Rei store here had, without elastic. Some other ones online that i liked were too heavy.
What do you think of the snugpac poncho?
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