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Thanks for tip, the idea sounds uncomfortable, but will try it and discuss it with people in the store!Altras with a heel lift insert?
Thanks, will be tested!Can you get New Balance where you live? My husband orders these in wide widths. He gets the Fresh Foam trail runners with the Vibram sole. They have worn well on Caminos and other hiking as well as day to day wear.
So glad you have that experience! many have, but unfortunately I now read A LOT about bad experiences with Hoka's quality. But maybe I'm getting a little paranoid after this happened today. Yes, get a full refund or exchange in the store, but the question I struggle with is whether I dare to take the chance again, other big brands do not have the same number of negative reviews on the Internet, as far as I can see.Wow, that looks like poor quality control! That's disappointing to see. In my experience with a dozen or so pairs of size 11.5 Wide Hokas including two Speed Goats I've never seen that. I use Hokas (Challenger) on Camino and (Challenger / Speed Goat) trail running here in CO. You should be able to get an exchange or refund, though that would be a huge pain on the Camino, of course.
Perhaps this is an extreme reaction. Return them to the store to see if they will replace them, and maybe you'll have a better experience.never, never Hoka again!
I walked both my Caminos with a Inov-8 Roclite G 290 which a) held up nicely and b) has 4mm drop. But it seems they are discontinued. Maybe you can have a look if some clearance is still available where you live, or look at their other shoes (different toebox sizes and drops). But shoes are very personal, might be just as well they don't work for you at all.Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Thanks for tip, I can see a few of their models are available, I'll include them in my hunt for replacement. Thats so right its personal, therefore frustrating and timeconsuming to find the right once.I walked both my Caminos with a Inov-8 Roclite G 290 which a) held up nicely and b) has 4mm drop. But it seems they are discontinued. Maybe you can have a look if some clearance is still available where you live, or look at their other shoes (different toebox sizes and drops). But shoes are very personal, might be just as well they don't work for you at all.
Interesting! Had La Sportiva some years ago, but they were goretex, and in hot climate I will have most possible breathable. Do you have a Mutants-model non-gortex, and are they an extra wide model or the ordinary?I also had issues with Speedgoats - horrendous blisters, and zero support on descents. Now use La Sportiva Mutants - super grippy, they support and hug the foot and there’s loads of room in the toe box. They also have a built in gaiter on the tongue so small stones stay out the shoe. I highly recommend. Size up.
My Mutants are non-Goretex. I took a wide in Speedgoats, the Mutants are wide fitting in my opinion. They look a bit wacky but I guess but nowhere near as wacky as the SGs!Interesting! Had La Sportiva some years ago, but they were goretex, and in hot climate I will have most possible breathable. Do you have a Mutants-model non-gortex, and are they an extra wide model or the usual?
Thanks for picture! But it doesn't look like these, the only one I can find available here, and the text doesn't say "wide" https://cornerblaabyen.no/produkt/l...GDr4qAcIESHSwtCFyAfJSz12UtMejtQcaAkayEALw_wcBI have the Mutants in non-Goretex (I took a wide in Speedgoats) The Mutants are wide fitting in my opinion. They look a bit wacky but I guess but nowhere near as wacky as the SGs!
The ones in your link are the latest model (different pattern but same shoe). Mine are the previous modelThanks for picture! But it doesn't look like these, the only one I can find available here, and the text doesn't say "wide" https://cornerblaabyen.no/produkt/l...GDr4qAcIESHSwtCFyAfJSz12UtMejtQcaAkayEALw_wcB
It's a national holiday and everything closed today in my country, but my plan is to buy different types tomorrow and walk around in the house, I will include these if they fit! And I think they look cool ;-)
Ok, I'll ask then, sometimes they have previous too ;-) do you find them more supportive and more solid sole than Speegoat, I think that will be fine, SG not so good on sharp rocks..The ones in your link are the latest model (different pattern but same shoe). Mine are the previous model
Yes way better support than Speedgoats. Foot doesn’t slide to the front of the shoe on the downhills like they did in the Hokas. The sole is firmer, more like a Salomon sole. Very grippy.Ok, I'll ask then, sometimes they have previous too ;-) do you find them more supportive and more solid sole than Speegoat, I think that will be fine, SG not so good on sharp rocks..
Yes way better support than Speedgoats. Foot doesn’t slide to the front of the shoe on the downhills like they did in the Hokas. The sole is firmer, more like a Salomon sole. Very grippy.
I am wearing Hoka speedgoats on the Camino Portuguese absolutely love them did 1400kms last year. Best shoesI have ever had the worst shoes I’ve had are new balance. I would take them back there is a fault.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
I have been a Hoka fan since 2016–used the Challengers on all four Caminos, but each year I noticed quality had diminished. The soles help up but the tops were always ripping.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Did you order them online from a reputable company? Are you certain they are truly from Hoka and not “knock-offs”?Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Thanks, I will!Ta en titt på Topo-sko. Komfort og pute til en Hoka med den romslige tåboksen til en Altra Lone Peak. Dessuten er det ikke en null drop-sko.
Yes, I am quite sure! The official Hoka-store in Norway, would never order online unless tried them in real first.Did you order them online from a reputable company? Are you certain they are truly from Hoka and not “knock-offs”?
I just completed the Costal way in a pair Hoka Speedgoats and I thought the were were great. If you have a problem with you feet slipping forward in them then try using there heal lock lacing method.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
A very experienced camino fiend told me that he only wears a certain type of New Balance Cross Trainers that have an extra thick sole. I forgot the actual name of the show but you can probably ask in a store.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Maybe try Salomon Speedcross?You have me spooked about your HOKA experience. I wore HOKA Speedgoat in a size and a half larger than my usual in 2E wide. They were perfect on my last Camino in the fall. I found that their ample soles were perfect for the many varied walking surfaces especially cobblestones and uneven surfaces. They did not crack but I will say that the tread got pretty chewed up after months of training and a tough Camino walk but I thought that seemed normal. Also, I replaced the original insert fairly soon after walking in them but, in my experience, that seems normal as well. I still wear them around local town walks but am planning on purchasing a new pair of Speedgoats for my upcoming Camino in two weeks. I would love to hear what the HOKA company has to say about the cracking. I would be devastated if that happened on the Camino but I have been a diehard totally satisfied fan of the Speedgoats. Now I don't know what I should do because nothing else that I have seen thrills me as a possible substitute and I plan to buy a new pair of shoes this weekend. I appreciate the comments shared here but, like someone pointed out, purchasing the proper shoes are a very personal and unique process. I also want to add that I am 71 years old and I have knee and back issues and the HOKAs were very forgiving. I can't imagine changing horses in the middle of a stream now.
Topo athletic .Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
I am so sorry for you. I just walked the CF and 100 km back on the coastal Portuguese to Porto airport. In fact I am waiting for my flight now. I wore Brooks Caldera 6, mens. I have bunions. The hold up very well. The profile is still a little bit visible under the ball of my feet. Only the fabric inside at the heel didn’t hold up to the end but that wasn’t a problem.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Tried them some weeks ago, not wide enogh for me unfortunately.Maybe try Salomon Speedcross?
Zappos.com is free shipping on both orders and returns, and the return window is a generous 365 days. I have small feet & rarely buy shoes anywhere else.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Good tip, but I checked it now, they start at 40.5 (8.5), I need 37 (6.5)..Have you tried the men’s version of the Saucony you like? On the advice of several Peregrinas, I switched from women’s Saucony Peregrine to the men’s and found it wider, more comfortable and no change in weight as compared to the women’s.
I also had a bad experience with HOKA, because of the rocker developed horrible Achilles problems. Every foot is different. Buen Camino!
Thanks for tips, but I dare not, there is far too much fraud with such foreign online shops, and there is always tax and shipping costs no matter what they promote. Believe me, have tried too many times, it unfortunately never works to Scandinavia, maybe Denmark, but never Sweden or Norway.Zappos.com is free shipping on both orders and returns, and the return window is a generous 365 days. I have small feet & rarely buy shoes anywhere else.
Yep. New Balance wide for me. 2nd pair. Awesome. Well over 1000kms for 1st pair. On Camino Portugues now, no problems with wear, blisters or faults. Had Hoka Trail runners before and same thing happened to last 2 pairs just out of warranty. Never again.Thanks, will be tested!
I am half way through Camino wearing Hokas. 2 sizes bigger than normal, no problems. Have met people in pieces having to go home but I feel great.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
So sorry for your experience…I walked the Camino Primitivo and Camino San Salvador in HOKA Speedgoats and they were great and held up very well.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
I just did 300 km with my HOka and loved them. Met also other walkers with the speed goats and did very well. I have had 5 knee surgeries on one knee and the Hoka Bonddi have been comfortable and perfect for my camino. Just one to give another perspective on the shoes. Might have been a poorly made model.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
The above link allows a search for the La Sportiva Ultra Raptor II, linked here:Thanks for picture! But it doesn't look like these, the only one I can find available here, and the text doesn't say "wide" https://cornerblaabyen.no/produkt/l...GDr4qAcIESHSwtCFyAfJSz12UtMejtQcaAkayEALw_wcB
It's a national holiday and everything closed today in my country, but my plan is to buy different types tomorrow and walk around in the house, I will include these if they fit! And I think they look cool ;-)
I have wide feet & I love my Keen footwear! Once I tried them, I wouldn't buy any other brand. On my 4 pair, have 2 pairs of high cut hikers & one pair of shoe like hikers.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Oh man. My son and I just finished our first Camino journey on 5 May 2023. I wore an Arctyrex lowcut hiking boot. I am so impressed with the way they wore. I have to say a good insole will also make a difference. I opted for Superfeet, my feet were so happy. I hope you find the best shoe that will carry you on your journey.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Have you considered whether this particular pair was defective? We have worn Speedgoats for the Norte, and for the Salvador and Primitivo. (I wore DirtyGirls gaiters in addition for that one.) We have been very happy with our Speedgoats.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Scandinavian stores?
I walked both the Camino Frances and Portuguese in 2022 with the Hoka Speedgoat 4 and had no problems with the shoe durability or blisters/feet problems. Not even a hot spot.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Curious, as I'm thinking of sandals. Do you think they give enough support?Oops, should have said” Teva sandals and socks!” Anyhow, works beautifully for my feet. Good luck!
In my experience, sandals are fantastic! I wear open-toed Teva sandals with socks and only occasionally pick up a stone. My feet stay cool and if it rains, I don’t have boots to dry. Your ankles and feet get stronger wearing sandals.Curious, as I'm thinking of sandals. Do you think they give enough support?
I've been training in Merrel Antora's and LOVE them so far. The combinition of breathability, cushion and support is perfect. I start June 6th in Oveida, so the big test is yet to come. The Merrel Moabs are wider. Both ha ve Vibram soles, which I believe is like a gold standard in soles -great traction and durability. (https://www.merrell.com/US/en/antor...&prefn2=surface&prefv2=MODERATE TRAIL&start=1)Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Brooks Ghost wide. Get a size larger than you measureFeel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Only seeing this now.Thanks for all your input and tips all of you experienced wonderful walkers!
Only seeing this now.
I wear Keens, very happy with them.
But since I was curious I searched the Mutants and found this website with lots of really thorough shoe reviews, many brands and models. Hoping those Hokas don't let you down again, @KariannNor, but here's a link for future reference:
La Sportiva Mutant | Blister Review
BLISTER | Reviews | September 15, 2022 | The most honest & in-depth reviews of outdoor gear | An in-depth review of the Mutant, La Sportiva's do-it-all mountain running shoe.blisterreview.com Thanks, useful absolutely. Part of my "problem" is that the total of our population is like a small street in other countries, so the selection is very bad.. I've been hunting La Sportiva all day, found ONE pair big-man-size, and of course goretex... Also problem online shops costs lots of tax, shipping etc.. but walk into any shop here, find houndres of types hiking boots, goretex etc..Only seeing this now.
I wear Keens, very happy with them.
But since I was curious I searched the Mutants and found this website with lots of really thorough shoe reviews, many brands and models. Hoping those Hokas don't let you down again, @KariannNor, but here's a link for future reference:
La Sportiva Mutant | Blister Review
BLISTER | Reviews | September 15, 2022 | The most honest & in-depth reviews of outdoor gear | An in-depth review of the Mutant, La Sportiva's do-it-all mountain running shoe.blisterreview.com
Salomon have some great shoes. I used GTX mirrors on my last Camino. They were great I always have a pair.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Brooks Ghost bred. Få en størrelse større enn du måler
Oh, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to make you feel insecure. I am completely convinced of Hoka's total superiority for body and legs! And the sole under Speedgoats SHOULD not break. I believe Hoka when they say it was a manufacturing error they have never seen after such a short time, ever! The vast majority have never experienced what I did. No, I don't want to change shoes either, love them, hope they will give you all the bestYou have me spooked about your HOKA experience. I wore HOKA Speedgoat in a size and a half larger than my usual in 2E wide. They were perfect on my last Camino in the fall. I found that their ample soles were perfect for the many varied walking surfaces especially cobblestones and uneven surfaces. They did not crack but I will say that the tread got pretty chewed up after months of training and a tough Camino walk but I thought that seemed normal. Also, I replaced the original insert fairly soon after walking in them but, in my experience, that seems normal as well. I still wear them around local town walks but am planning on purchasing a new pair of Speedgoats for my upcoming Camino in two weeks. I would love to hear what the HOKA company has to say about the cracking. I would be devastated if that happened on the Camino but I have been a diehard totally satisfied fan of the Speedgoats. Now I don't know what I should do because nothing else that I have seen thrills me as a possible substitute and I plan to buy a new pair of shoes this weekend. I appreciate the comments shared here but, like someone pointed out, purchasing the proper shoes is a very personal and unique process. I also want to add that I am 71 years old and I have knee and back issues and the HOKAs were very forgiving. I wore compression socks and did not get blisters either. I can't imagine changing horses in the middle of a stream now.
@KariannNorFeel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Thanks, I'm back in the Hoka clan again. Have learned something about feet/shoes over the years, (think orthopedists are reliable sources). So, the good news for you, as far as I've heard and learned, is that zero-drops like your Altra makes ankles and legs very strong and healthy, they really get a challenge when the heel has to work. And the total body really appreciate exactly that when, for all of us, "older days" comes (don't know your age then). So, if I could handle zero drop, I would go for it.@KariannNor
Sorry to hear about your Hoke shoe predicaments ,
On personal level , I used Altra Olympus 4 last year (2022) from SJPP to Santiago and
I’m still using them daily walk, around average of 10 kms each day ,overall about 2000 kms on them and still look and feel ok, decent top and bottom , of course some wear and tare on it .
Maybe Altra Olympus 4 is not for you but I swear by it .
Hopefully you will find the right pair for your Camino.
Good Luck
Buen Camino !
I was 72 years young last year when I walked the Camino . 34 days of walking and 6 days of rest and Camino tourist in PamplonaThanks, I'm back in the Hoka clan again. Have learned something about feet/shoes over the years, (think orthopedists are reliable sources). So, the good news for you, as far as I've heard and learned, is that zero-drops like your Altra makes ankles and legs very strong and healthy, they really get a challenge when the heel has to work. And the total body really appreciate exactly that when, for all of us, "older days" comes (don't know your age then). So, if I could handle zero drop, I would go for it.
We are currently walking the Camino, both of us in our Hoka’s, 400km walked and not one single issue, and experiencing perfect comfort from them. There are plenty of people on the Camino quite happily wearing Hoka’s and we have not heard one single complaint ! Don’t think it reasonable to let one bad example tarnish a brand.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Please ask moderator to delete this thread if you feel insolted. I will not myself, as I reckon most people understand a (much) strong expression of emotion when such suddenly happens to new pairs, and we are all just people and emotions (and Hoka has such a huge market so I doubt they would care at all ;-)We are currently walking the Camino, both of us in our Hoka’s, 400km walked and not one single issue, and experiencing perfect comfort from them. There are plenty of people on the Camino quite happily wearing Hoka’s and we have not heard one single complaint ! Don’t think it reasonable to let one bad example tarnish a brand.
I don't know what may be available in Scandinavian stores. I can recommend these twi brands from experience, although I'm sure there are many others equally good in quality and performance. In my opinion, the key is comfort and fit first, durability second.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
I've seen several people wearing sandals on the Camino, but they are the type that have a proper walking-shoe sole to them. Unless you have hardened walking feet that can walk day after day for the duration of the Camino, then you'll need a good sole to absorb the hard edges of stones that are almost imposible to avoid walking on. There are all kinds of surfaces on the Camino routes, plus weather factors, let alone the pounding we give them while walking and carrying a pack load of approx. 10% of bodyweight (hopefully less, but definitely not more!). You could also consider using walking poles which can help with stability, take some of the burden off the knees and ankles, especially on the steep and tricky descents.Curious, as I'm thinking of sandals. Do you think they give enough support?
Love my Brooks Cascadia trail shoes.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Try Altra's. They got me through the Camino FrancesFeel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
I love the way Topos fit, but ve had 4 pairs and every one of them got a hole on the top.Take a look at Topo shoes. Comfort and cushion of a Hoka with the roomy toe box of a Altra Lone Peak. Also, it is not a zero drop shoe.
Super advice and not just because I was going to suggest it.Altras with a heel lift insert?
If you need at a minimum 4mm drop then padded socks just may get you there and then Altra isn't out of the running. Wedge inserts are incredibly comfortable and a real life saver for those who's achilles can't take the 0 drop. Norda is superior, but expen$ive even for those who can spare no expense. The fit has to be dialed in so unless you can be fitted they could be a bother, although there are shops that carry them in Denmark, Norway, Sweden & Finland (I just checked - I'm not a rep although I sound like one). It's so hard to make recommendations when folks' feet and bodies need different support.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
I walked whole 1900 km withFeel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Brooks Glycerine. Running shoes designed for high mileage with loads of cushioning. Very durable. Breathable. Did my Camino in great comfort, not a single blister or foot issue. Look no further!Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
Here’s why I worry about some of the posts about people’s experiences. There is sometimes a counter opinion. I bought a pair of top model New Balance runners in Washington DC. They had been nominated as top running shoe of the year by a US running magazine( I think it was called Runners World). Within a fortnight the soles had completely collapsed and it was like running on boards. I was back in Australia then so couldn’t return them. A bit later I was in Hobart and a sports store had good special on another top New Balance model so I bought them assuming I couldn’t get two bad apples in a row. The uppers parted company from the soles in less than a fortnight. A friend walked the Frances with a 38 litre Osprey pack. She found the backstraps chafed her skin away and it took some months to fully recover. I have my own gear preferences based on some 50 years plus of bushwalking, running, and ski-touring. I’m not inflicting them on others. But quite often I’ve found that the most expensive gear is not necessarilythe best and sometimes it’s close to the worst.Can you get New Balance where you live? My husband orders these in wide widths. He gets the Fresh Foam trail runners with the Vibram sole. They have worn well on Caminos and other hiking as well as day to day wear.
Yes, I agree that personal experience is the best guide, but I know New Balance makes wide widths while many others do not. The OP asked for wide shoe recommendations.Here’s why I worry about some of the posts about people’s experiences. There is sometimes a counter opinion. I bought a pair of top model New Balance runners in Washington DC. They had been nominated as top running shoe of the year by a US running magazine( I think it was called Runners World). Within a fortnight the soles had completely collapsed and it was like running on boards. I was back in Australia then so couldn’t return them. A bit later I was in Hobart and a sports store had good special on another top New Balance model so I bought them assuming I couldn’t get two bad apples in a row. The uppers parted company from the soles in less than a fortnight. A friend walked the Frances with a 38 litre Osprey pack. She found the backstraps chafed her skin away and it took some months to fully recover. I have my own gear preferences based on some 50 years plus of bushwalking, running, and ski-touring. I’m not inflicting them on others. But quite often I’ve found that the most expensive gear is not necessarilythe best and sometimes it’s close to the worst.
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I have ordered the Topo Ultraventure 3 as well. I am using a Topo running shoe for short distances and mostly on pavement until the trail shoes arrive. I also ordered the shoe gaiters that are available to clip right on the shoes. Did you get the hiking insert to improve the overall cushioning, the stability or for blister prevention? Just curious...I just recently switched from Altras because they were breaking down so quickly. If they are available in the Netherlands I highly recommend Topo Athletic Ultraventure 3. They have a wide toe bed and great cushioning. I added a hiking insert and have been extremely happy wearing them right out of the box and have gone on several long hikes.
I bought the inserts for arch support and cushioning after a clerk at the store highly recommended them.I have ordered the Topo Ultraventure 3 as well. I am using a Topo running shoe for short distances and mostly on pavement until the trail shoes arrive. I also ordered the shoe gaiters that are available to clip right on the shoes. Did you get the hiking insert to improve the overall cushioning, the stability or for blister prevention? Just curious...
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I'm glad to hear that because I just ordered a pair and spent more on shoes than I wanted to - got the new Speedgoats and the company says they have a 30 day trial - if anything goes wrong - they will exchange or refund.I have worn HOKAs on both the Frances and the Primitivo and wouldn’t try it without it them! No trouble. Sorry for your experience.
Keep in mind that Speedgoats are trail running shoes. All trail running shoes have a far softer sole, meant for dirt trails. The Speedgoats were not intended for use on hard surfaces, like the cobblestones. Unlike hiking shoes/boots, the Speedgoats as well as any trail running shoes do not have a strong shank, the hard material inserted by the manufacturer to maximize foot stability and lessen the shock to your foot on each stride, especially your arches. No, I do not own stock in Hokas, though maybe I should.Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
same here with the Bondi modelI loved my Hoka One One! Trained about 100 miles on them prior to the Camino Frances and they lasted the entire 500 miles there. The heal was worn down by the end so I gave them the proper burial. I hike with replacement Hokas now - they have been great to me.
That happened with my Hoka Torrents recently @KariannNor. The return processes can be frustrating, so I went to the nearby store and bought a recommended glue to repair them. Good as new, no online return as well. Been walking with them for weeks now. These shoes are very expensive and the shop should take them back. Good luck!Feel so sad... bought my Speedgoats Wide 11 days ago, used them 70 km ca, rough terrain, but they should handle it. Today the entire sole is cracked.. Was so happy, love them, but never, never, never Hoka again! Read so much about bad quality experience. But maybe I should be glad it didn't happen during the Camino. Will return them to the store tomorrow, but now I'm comfused, what to try next.. Don't want to buy from online stores, have to pay tax, shipping and return costs if they don't fit. So, any suggustions, like Saucony, but their latest terrain model is not wide enough for me. Altra not possible, need at least 4mm drop. Definetely not Goretex, most possible breathable. Suggestions available in Skandinavian stores?
I’ve used the Speedgoats for a few years walking hundreds of miles on Caminos and other trails like the Appalachian Trail. I have never had a problem. I wonder if yours had a defect. I would reach out to the company to see if they stand by their product. They shouldn’t fail after such little use.So glad you have that experience! many have, but unfortunately I now read A LOT about bad experiences with Hoka's quality. But maybe I'm getting a little paranoid after this happened today. Yes, get a full refund or exchange in the store, but the question I struggle with is whether I dare to take the chance again, other big brands do not have the same number of negative reviews on the Internet, as far as I can see.
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