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Just saw this. Don't count on Easter Camino.

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Madrid is left alone in the defense of opening for Easter​

  • All the communities, except the one chaired by Ayuso, are inclined to adopt a common plan that would include a veto on travel between autonomies​

  • The ministry will deliver its proposal this Thursday so that it can be approved on Wednesday of next week​

Isabel Díaz Ayuso in an image of February 23, 2021.

Isabel Díaz Ayuso in an image from February 23, 2021. /EFE VIDEO CAPTURE

Although it was not yet the time to make a decision, the autonomous communities have formulated their proposals in the Interterritorial Health Council for Holy Week. All, except Madrid, have agreed on the need for the measures to be homogeneous and the vast majority have been in favor of prohibiting travel between autonomous communities, in line with what was stated by those responsible for the Ministry of Health . They have explained to the autonomies that their proposal will be ready this Thursday so that it can be approved at the meeting on March 10.
The objective of the ministry is that this time the restrictions "are approved unanimously", as stated by its head, Carolina Darias at the end of the Council. Although not really necessary. The decision will be adopted in the form of an Agreement on Coordinated Actions of the Interterritorial Council and therefore will be "mandatory" for all the autonomies, as the minister recalled. Madrid will not be able to do what it wants.
The proposal to be announced by the ministry will also include "other mobility restrictions" and "social contacts." The idea is that the curfew goes in all the autonomies from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m., that social gatherings be of a maximum of 4 to 6 people and recommend that university students who study abroad do not return, according to a draft to which has had access to this diary. It also proposes something that contradicts the intentions expressed by Public Health in Catalonia: "Do not lower the level of alert in which autonomy is found from the two weeks prior to the start of Holy Week, although the indicators are favorable, and therefore maintain the measures established at that time ".
"The objective is to continue saving lives, not to save weeks" and "to avoid a fourth wave", he has repeated several times during his appearance. He has also insisted on the need to lower than 50 cases per 100,000 inhabitants before considering other things.

The plateau

The decline in infections has slowed down in recent days. This Wednesday the average incidence was 159 cases per 100,000 inhabitants, only nine less than the previous day. This slowdown may be an indication that we are entering "a plateau", according to the minister, who also stressed that the two autonomous cities and one community, Madrid, continues to exceed 250 cases that mark the threshold of extreme risk.
The Madrid Minister of Health has been able to contemplate how at the meeting all his colleagues advocated "maximum caution" and homogeneous decision-making throughout Spain, including those chaired by his own party. Murcia and Andalusia have also advocated the perimeter closure, Galicia, has defended it but preferred to wait to see how the pandemic evolved in the coming days. Catalunya, which the day before had not spoken, at the meeting also called for the closure.

Common front​

In the morning, the president of the Valencian Community, Ximo Puig, had spoken with Catalonia, Murcia, Castilla-La Mancha, the Balearic Islands and Aragon to create a common front to defend the closure of borders at Easter . Everyone fears that Madrid, the autonomy with the most infections, will spread the virus throughout Spain, causing a fourth wave. According to the sources of the Generalitat, the harmony has been total with the rest of autonomic officials, among which there are from different parties, not only socialists.
During the Council, the representatives of Madrid and Catalonia have asked that the AstraZeneca vaccine can also be used in people over 55 years of age, but the minister replied that for the moment there will be no changes. "The vaccination presentation analyzes the studies that are published and if there is evidence that it is also effective in the elderly, the decision will be reviewed," he said later.

Triple division in Madrid​

After hearing his colleagues, the Madrid councilor has asked that everyone be listened to and has reproached having found out about the proposals from the media. In reality, the Community of Madrid has yet to clarify. Its president, Isabel Díaz Ayuso,defends that "a priori" is not in favor of closing, although he wants to wait two weeks to decide, while the vice president, the regional leader of Cs, Ignacio Aguado, thinks that "at least vaccinated people" can "move freely throughout the National territory". "It is my personal opinion regarding what could be a gradual opening of restrictions and greater mobility," he said, while Ayuso hastened to correct him: "I am surprised that (Aguado) has not commented on it in the two hours that we have been in the Governing Council. The one who has to say it if it were convenient is the Ministry of Health. I take all the decisions after listening to Health ", he stressed.

Despite Ayuso's words, his Deputy Minister of Health, Antonio Zapatero, has been less optimistic: "As we are in Madrid today, with 550 people in ICUs, I am not here for festive events." They will first have to clarify among themselves before transferring their final position to the Interterritorial Council next Thursday.

Valencia and Catalonia agree on a perimeter closure at Easter

In the morning, the La Mancha spokeswoman, Blanca Fernández, asked the neighboring Community of Madrid "patience" and a "last effort". "Today I want to send a message to both the PP and the Community of Madrid: Please, the perimetration prevents the departure of citizens from those autonomous communities that have a higher incidence than others, and those regions that have a large population and can affect others and it can complicate the data. That has a cost in lives, "the Equality Minister also warned.

Government and autonomies analyze today "shared" measures for Easter

The Junta de Castilla y León has also responded to the Madrid position by asking "to apply a criterion of prudence and that it be homogeneous" throughout the national territory, according to the Minister of the Presidency of the regional government, Ángel Ibáñez. Also the head of the Government of Cantabria, Miguel Ángel Revilla, has asked the president, Pedro Sánchez, to summon his counterparts in the autonomous communities to try to reach a consensus on a position throughout the country on the restrictions and their possible relaxation for Semana Santa
Similarly, Andalusia has called on the Minister of Health, Carolina Darias, to lead the Interterritorial Health Council and assume "once and for all" its powers and establish "clear" criteria for the exit from the perimeter closure of the communities . Regarding the tourist forecasts for Easter, he assures that he still does not know to what extent mobility will be restricted, although he has trusted that by next March 26 it will be allowed at least to open the perimeter closure between the Andalusian provinces.
The president of Asturias, Adrián Barbón, already announced a month ago, and it has been ratified several times since then, that in this community he will maintain the perimeter closure and will not allow trips that are not justified during Holy Week so as not to fall into the mistakes of the past Christmas and thus avoid a "brutal fourth wave".
Asturias and Extremadura also opted for prudence, as did Euskadi, Navarra and La Rioja . Melilla has asked to perimeter, but that the decision be taken unanimously.

Technical criteria​

The position of the Ministry technicians was already commented on Monday by the director of the Center for the Coordination of Health Alerts and Emergencies (CCAES), Fernando Simón, who stressed that the reopening of the regional borders should not even be considered if the terms.
"I am an epidemiologist, I am interested in controlling the epidemic, and obviously my views are different from those that, for example, businessmen may have. If the transmission conditions are not correct so that we can have a little more openness, I think that It should not even be raised, "he settled.
 
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JabbaPapa

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Since almost the start of this, Spain has been implementing regional lockdowns in particular holiday periods -- I wouldn't read too much into it, as these are exceptional measures not indicating general policy.

The core information remains the detail of measures undertaken in each region, and the national travel restrictions into the country.
 

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I agree, but I've seen people on other websites talking about going for Easter.
If someone started in France about a week's hike away from the border, might be possible -- provided getting to France were feasible, and provided that the minimum degree of financial commitment weren't too onerous.

i.e. you'd basically need to already be in Europe at that time.
 
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jungleboy

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In Portugal, the president is talking about keeping restrictions through Easter specifically because it's Easter. Restrictions were eased at Christmas and it became a superspreader holiday, leading to Portugal having the highest rate of infection per capita in the world for a couple of weeks in January. To avoid that happening again, I expect opening up to begin in Portugal once Easter has passed and I could see how the Spanish regions and/or central government might be thinking along similar lines.

As for the camino, I was always hoping for post-Easter in Spain (Mozárabe/VdlP) or as a backup in Portugal (Caminho do Este). Maybe the backup plan is now the best I can hope for.
 

JabbaPapa

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Given that I'm planning on walking across all of the internal EU international borders, I'm hoping to be able to get going again in April, or May at the latest.

Easter is too early, unless you start in France some distance from the Pyrenees, as there is likely to be a hard lockdown in Easter week.
 
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Reports in Australian media over past 24 hrs that Covid cases across Central and Eastern Europe primarily have increased by 9%. No international departure's from Australia before July presently, but may well stretch out to much later in the year. Appears that any 'open skies' travel is unlikely for most of this year.
 

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Easter seems pretty un-doable, at least from outside Europe. I'm hopeful that people are able to access places to walk and contemplate, much closer to home (where ever that may be....).
 

jungleboy

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I expect opening up to begin in Portugal once Easter has passed

News on this front today from the BBC:
Covid-19: Cyprus and Portugal want to welcome vaccinated UK tourists from May

Rita Marques, Portugal's secretary of state for tourism, told the BBC: "I do believe that Portugal will soon allow restriction-free travel, not only for vaccinated people, but those who are immune or who test negative. We hope to welcome British tourists from 17 May."

She added that the situation in Portugal was "stable" and said, "Everything will be ready by mid May."
 

JabbaPapa

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Regional lockdowns everywhere in Spain 'til April 6th. So ,no Easter Caminos sadly 😷
 

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"Watch and Wait", pilgrim's, "Watch and Wait". Good news re Portugal (and Cyprus) but again reality bites. From a UK angle - I hope to get my jab later this month. I then have to wait 12 weeks for the second one. Then a further week or two to get a digital certificate to prove same - that's the certificate plan that is still being worked out. So where does that leave me - June maybe. I will be "protected", good for me, but I could still carry the virus to those countries where inoculation's have been on the "back foot" as opposed to the top of the arm ie. most of Europe. So unless it becomes legal to travel outside UK for leisure anytime soon- doubtful, unless other countries achieve a similar vaccination rate I could be both on wrong side of law as well as putting everyone I meet at risk.
I have plans for November this year which I reckon are 50/50 at the moment. I am good to go - camino plans worked out, kit sorted - the second restrictions are lifted and I have a certificate and the countries I intend travelling to are happy to accept me I am away. But realistically travel this side of June for me is nothing more than wishful thinking. 2021 I am sure will be the year we emerge from all this but it will be like walking a camino. One sure, thoughtful, considerate step at a time.
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Good news re Portugal
Although it is on the UK's Red List. So apart from currently not allowing any holiday type travel if you have travelled through Portugal, non-UK residents will be refused entry to the UK however UK residents must quarantine in a Government hotel for 10 days at their own expense. Whilst there remains concern about the Brazilian variant I can't see this changing anytime soon.
 

Don Camillo

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I meant it was good news for the fact that they want to open their doors to us. Accepted that nothing is going to happen anytime soon. I have now been able to book my covid jabs - 1st scheduled end of March, 2nd early June so as I suspected people of my age group 55+ will not be certificated until mid June at earliest irrespective of whatever happens in Europe. The only sure thing here is that nothing is going to "change anytime soon"
 

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"Watch and Wait", pilgrim's, "Watch and Wait". Good news re Portugal (and Cyprus) but again reality bites. From a UK angle - I hope to get my jab later this month. I then have to wait 12 weeks for the second one. Then a further week or two to get a digital certificate to prove same - that's the certificate plan that is still being worked out. So where does that leave me - June maybe. I will be "protected", good for me, but I could still carry the virus to those countries where inoculation's have been on the "back foot" as opposed to the top of the arm ie. most of Europe. So unless it becomes legal to travel outside UK for leisure anytime soon- doubtful, unless other countries achieve a similar vaccination rate I could be both on wrong side of law as well as putting everyone I meet at risk.
I have plans for November this year which I reckon are 50/50 at the moment. I am good to go - camino plans worked out, kit sorted - the second restrictions are lifted and I have a certificate and the countries I intend travelling to are happy to accept me I am away. But realistically travel this side of June for me is nothing more than wishful thinking. 2021 I am sure will be the year we emerge from all this but it will be like walking a camino. One sure, thoughtful, considerate step at a time.
Don
About the most realistic assessment I've read so far. 😊
 

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