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Large umbrella instead of walking poles in Sept.

Camino(s) past & future
Future: Aug 2018 Frances
#1
Has anyone used an umbrella instead of w.p. and how did it work out?

I'd have to buy one once on the Camino...

Just a thought-
 

Kanga

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Camino(s) past & future
Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese.
#2
I use both. A hiking umbrella which I rig to the shoulder strap of my backpack so it is handsfree, which provides wonderful shade in sunny weather, and protection from the rain without causing me to sweat. Fabulous in all weather except strong wind. I also use two trekking sticks - needed for knee support, hips, and because I have no depth perception.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (Spring '17)
Primitivo (Spring '18)
TBD (2019)
#3
Do you mean using the umbrella as a walking pole when it's not raining? Or just that you don't have room for both and you have to choose which to bring?
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF SJPdP to SdC
(May 2015)
CF Sarria to SdC
(May 2016)
CF SJPDP-SdC
(Apr/May 2018)
VdlP (2020)
#5
I use both. They do very different jobs, not sure how they can substitute for each other :oops:

I would leave half my other gear behind, if not most, before leaving my poles or umbrella.... They would rank only after my boots in order of importance I think.
 

MinaKamina

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Jacobspad 2017
#6
As far as I'm aware, combinations of umbrella & walking stick do exist, but I'm not sure about walking poles.
The walking umbrella & stick looks like this:



You can pull the walking stick out of the umbrella and use the umbrella (in one hand) and the walking stick (in the other hand) at the same time.
This 'safebrella' is made by a German compnay named Ossenberg.
http://www.ossenberg.com/de/Stocksc...brella-DUO-Design-schwarz-kleine-Ausfuehrung1

Personally I'd prefer a handsfree umbrella so I can use both walking poles freely. This hiking umbrella is sold in the Forum Store.


https://www.santiagodecompostela.me...la/products/swing-handsfree-trekking-umbrella
 

jl

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances('05, '07), Aragonese ('05), del Norte / Primitivo ('09), Via Tolosana (Toulouse '05), Via Podiensis (Le Puy '07), Via Lemovicensis (Troyes '09), VF ('12), Winter Camino ('13/'14) Cammino d'Assisi ('14) Jakobseweg (Leipzig - Paris '15) San Salvador/Norte ('15) Ignaciano ('16) Invierno ('16)
#7
I have found the hands free as sold on the forum store invaluable on the trip that I am currently on (the Via Romea Germanica). I am in Italy at present where the temperatures are posted at around 30 with a real feel of about 37. It is great to use in the hot weather and to be able to walk in my very own patch of shade, but it is also invaluable to use in wet weather. I have a pack cover, to protect the pack, but by using the hands free I can use devices like my camera and tablet (for mapps) without them getting wet, and best of all i don't need windscreen wipers for my glasses! In the summer months I don't need to put a raincoat on if there is rain, and therfore remain cooler. It is good in a thunderstorm too as you can put it up quickly. I too use two poles (Pacer poles)
 

falcon269

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yes
#8
I have both. If I had to choose, it would be no contest; the poles win. It rained so little when I took the Euroschrim, that I doubt I will take it again. If you plan to use it every day as a sunshade, it might be worth it. My Tilley hat does that, though, at a fraction of the weight and trouble, and my only worry is keeping elephants from eating it.;)
 
#9
Real trekking poles and umbrellas just preform very distinct functions. There are also times when the wind goes horizontal and most umbrellas won’t help. But you need the trekking poles I found out. But learn to use them correctly. If you use them correctly or more or less so, they are a great advantage in all situations. If you don’t....well, don’t
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF SJPdP to SdC
(May 2015)
CF Sarria to SdC
(May 2016)
CF SJPDP-SdC
(Apr/May 2018)
VdlP (2020)
#10
I have both. If I had to choose, it would be no contest; the poles win. It rained so little when I took the Euroschrim, that I doubt I will take it again. If you plan to use it every day as a sunshade, it might be worth it. My Tilley hat does that, though, at a fraction of the weight and trouble, and my only worry is keeping elephants from eating it.;)
One of the major benefits I found using our Umbrellas as sun shades, was the significant reduction in water consumption. Probably about 40%. More than makes up for the extra weight.....
 
Camino(s) past & future
Norte, Primitivo, Plata, Salvador Torres
#11
I have both. If I had to choose, it would be no contest; the poles win. It rained so little when I took the Euroschrim, that I doubt I will take it again. If you plan to use it every day as a sunshade, it might be worth it. My Tilley hat does that, though, at a fraction of the weight and trouble, and my only worry is keeping elephants from eating it.;)
For me the advantage of the umbrella as sunshade is that without a hat my head can "breathe" and feel the slightest breeze. Plus the umbrella gives shade to the whole upper body. For years now I have been using both umbrella and trekking poles.

Now I reread your post, falcon 269, another advantage of the umbrella would be that you probably do not have to worry about elephants eating it!
 

Kanga

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Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese.
#12
@falcon269 I’ve swapped the Euroshirm for a lightweight Helinox but canabalised the Euroshirm fittings using a glue gun, so they fit the Helinox... It was so useful on the Via de la Plata.
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" camino
Porto to SdC May 2019
#13
I looked for a dual purpose hiking pole/umbrella but couldn't find one long enough for my height (6'1"/185cms).
"Standard" umbrellas are fine strolling the streets of a city (especially with a bowler hat don't you know) or for Singing in the Rain but you need something that comes up to elbow height for normal walking and a bit longer for going down hills.
Of course you might be just the right size to do this with a Standand - I settled on a normal hiking pole and a silver coated, fold up umbrella.
 

Marbe2

Active member
Camino(s) past & future
2015 SJPD to Burgos
2017 Leon to Santiago
Pamplona to Santiago Mar. 2018
Burgos - SCDC (Oct 18)
#14
I have, so far, not found most days on my caminos having appropriate weather conditions compatible with the use of an umbrella. I have walked in Sept, Feb, March and April. Most of my experience has been that when it rained the winds were fierce. On a couple of occasions we have had to hold on to the poles tight as the wind lifted them with each step. One day we walked with a headwind of 75km per hour for 6 hours. I would rather have clothing that kept me dry. I can see, however, where an umbrella might come in handy as sun protection, especially involving hot, low wind weather. When it is hot, I wear a Columbia Booney hat that covers my neck and head. When it gets too hot I wet the hat and cool off.
 
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2, El Norte incompleto
#15
@falcon269 I’ve swapped the Euroshirm for a lightweight Helinox but canabalised the Euroshirm fittings using a glue gun, so they fit the Helinox... It was so useful on the Via de la Plata.
I'd love to know how you adapted the fittings. I have used the Euroschirm hands free telescope umbrella the last two years, but have recently purchased their Light Trek Ultra (half the weight!). I have some shock cord and cord locks, but if there is a way to adapt the clips that would be fantastic. And where do you attach the handle of your umbrella?
 

Kanga

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Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese.
#16
The new umbrella has a much narrower shaft than the Euroshirm so I used a glue gun to drip some hot glue into the metal clips of the Euroshirm fittings, so that they became a tight fitting on the new shaft. The shaft is, of course, not as long as the Euroshirm, so I used cord locks attached to the shoulder straps of my pack around the handle of the Helinox (it has ridges around the handle, which help) to keep it positioned half way between my waist and my shoulder, then I pulled the handle cord down and around the waistband of my pack. All a bit difficult to explain. It takes a bit of getting set up to get it in the right place (my boobs get in the way, it would be much easier for a guy!) but once done it is good for the day.
 
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2, El Norte incompleto
#17
The new umbrella has a much narrower shaft than the Euroshirm so I used a glue gun to drip some hot glue into the metal clips of the Euroshirm fittings, so that they became a tight fitting on the new shaft. The shaft is, of course, not as long as the Euroshirm, so I used cord locks attached to the shoulder straps of my pack around the handle of the Helinox (it has ridges around the handle, which help) to keep it positioned half way between my waist and my shoulder, then I pulled the handle cord down and around the waistband of my pack. All a bit difficult to explain. It takes a bit of getting set up to get it in the right place (my boobs get in the way, it would be much easier for a guy!) but once done it is good for the day.
Thanks! I'm thinking that maybe I'll try the glue gun idea. I'm thinking of somehow also attaching to the sternum strap. Experimentation this weekend!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Future: Aug 2018 Frances
#18
Do you mean using the umbrella as a walking pole when it's not raining? Or just that you don't have room for both and you have to choose which to bring?
Yes, dual purpose umbrella since I prefer not to use poles.

I'm not tall so the umbrella could be the right height.

I do like all these options, though. Thank you everyone for your. 02!
 
Camino(s) past & future
May 29th to July 4th 2016
SJPDP to Santiago
And many, many more I pray
#19
As soon as I returned from my 2016 Camino I ordered the pack umbrella that is offered at the forum store. It attaches to your back pack hands free. I’m not sure how it would test insome of the wind gusts on the mesteta but I was willing to try. More for shade then rain. I remember us pilgrims trying to respite under any available shade in the hot summer heat.
 
Camino(s) past & future
2015 Frances, 2017 Frances, (2019 ???)
#20
In reading through this thread the commentary on umbrellas has been obviously used to 'cover ' for the real conversation that has been trying to emerge. The issue of elephants on the Camino. I have walked the Frances twice, and have noticed a significant upsurge in the numbers of elephants from '15 to '17/ West of Los Arcos, where the cafe movil is (or is rumored to be ), I noticed a huge uptick in elephant remains cast indiscriminately about the path. All the yellow arrows in the world cannot erase the truth that the Spanish government does not want you to know.
Pilgrims beware!!!
 

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