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Some help with a survey about motivations, sharing and preparation

diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
Hi guys,

I've shared the full statistics from 2004 based on Pilgrims' Office in this post but as you may know, it's not enough.

I'm very passionated about analytics and I really appreciated if you can help me with this survey regarding motivations, caminos (an number of them), preparation, sharing with others, etc. You'll just need 5 minutes to fill it and if you can share with your Camino's friends it's be great.

I'm not gathering any personal information or email address but I'll share the results in this forum with all of you (Open Data and CC).

Thank you very much in advance and Buen Camino!
 
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Loved and fed by David
Year of past OR future Camino
Frances 2017, 2018, 2019, Ingles 2018, (Madrid 2019 partial - retired hurt!) (more planned)
Hi guys,

I've shared the full statistics from 2004 based on Pilgrims' Office in this post but as you may know, it's not enough.

I'm very passionated about analytics and I really appreciated if you can help me with this survey regarding motivations, caminos (an number of them), preparation, sharing with others, etc. You'll just need 5 minutes to fill it and if you can share with your Camino's friends it's be great.

I'm not gathering any personal information or email address but I'll share the results in this forum with all of you (Open Data and CC).

Thank you very much in advance and Buen Camino!

you need a ‘no’ answer on the question about publishing or blogging - or make it a ‘not required’ question.
 

kelleymac

Veteran Member
Year of past OR future Camino
March/April 2015, Late April 2016, Sept/Oct 2017, April 2019.
I filled it out. :) Thanks for posting. -- I was saddened that you did not include religion or spirituality or learning about history and Spain in the choices available for main reason to walk.
 
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Rota Vicentina, fisherman’s trail, is sweet...
Year of past OR future Camino
St Olav’s way Novgorod - Åbo
- Stiklestad - Nidaros (2019)
Via del a plata from Cadiz (2019)
Hi guys,

I've shared the full statistics from 2004 based on Pilgrims' Office in this post but as you may know, it's not enough.

I'm very passionated about analytics and I really appreciated if you can help me with this survey regarding motivations, caminos (an number of them), preparation, sharing with others, etc. You'll just need 5 minutes to fill it and if you can share with your Camino's friends it's be great.

I'm not gathering any personal information or email address but I'll share the results in this forum with all of you (Open Data and CC).

Thank you very much in advance and Buen Camino!
Is there a dynamic spreadsheet of the answers for us to look into?
 

diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
Is there a dynamic spreadsheet of the answers for us to look into?
hi... you can view the results when you send the answers but I make some dashboards for all of you guys after gathering the surveys. I’ll share them in this thread.

There are 29 answers right now.

Thank you!
 
Year of past OR future Camino
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC

Barbara

Active Member
Year of past OR future Camino
Frances, Norte (twice)and Primitivo, Sureste, In France From home Tours and Vézelay, also Le Puy.
I will answer your survey but want to know how you will deal with the changed questions when you do your analysis, please.
 
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diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
I will answer your survey but want to know how you will deal with the changed questions when you do your analysis, please.
Hi Barbara,

Do you mean the one for inner motivations (@kelleymac) and minor adjustments (@henrythedog)? Normally, if there is any missing value (2 answers right now), it is usually discarded for that specific question. For other free text answers, the usual process is normalization to group into categories.

Bests!
 
Year of past OR future Camino
(2015) Frances
(2018) Portuguese
(2019) VdP Seville to Salamanca
(2020) VdP Salamanca to Santiago
I think that the question on why you walked should be a multiple answer. I do it for philosophical/spiritual as well as to continue to challenge myself and to meet people. I don't think anyone does it primarily for only one reason. Great questionaire.
 

diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
I think that the question on why you walked should be a multiple answer. I do it for philosophical/spiritual as well as to continue to challenge myself and to meet people. I don't think anyone does it primarily for only one reason. Great questionaire.
Thank you John! I'll review it to improve it. You mean this question "What would be you main reason to do the Camino?", don't you? I think it's already multiple choice...
I'm finalizing the first draft with the initial results so... stay tuned :)
Bests,
 
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diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
Hi guys,

I've shared the full statistics from 2004 based on Pilgrims' Office in this post but as you may know, it's not enough.

I'm very passionated about analytics and I really appreciated if you can help me with this survey regarding motivations, caminos (an number of them), preparation, sharing with others, etc. You'll just need 5 minutes to fill it and if you can share with your Camino's friends it's be great.

I'm not gathering any personal information or email address but I'll share the results in this forum with all of you (Open Data and CC).

Thank you very much in advance and Buen Camino!
Updated: first 70 answers draft results! I hope you enjoy. I'm just finalizing all the visualizations. Thank you to share this survey with your fellow pilgrims :)
 
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Year of past OR future Camino
Caminos Francais: 2002, 2012, 2019. (Future Ingles, Primitivo, Portuguese in 2021)
I filled it out. :) Thanks for posting. -- I was saddened that you did not include religion or spirituality or learning about history and Spain in the choices available for main reason to walk.
Interesting observation, as I felt I completed an admittedly brief yet concise questionnaire with a surprisingly full account of my Camino choices, inspirations and future plans.
 
Year of past OR future Camino
Caminos Francais: 2002, 2012, 2019. (Future Ingles, Primitivo, Portuguese in 2021)
Hi guys,

I've shared the full statistics from 2004 based on Pilgrims' Office in this post but as you may know, it's not enough.

I'm very passionated about analytics and I really appreciated if you can help me with this survey regarding motivations, caminos (an number of them), preparation, sharing with others, etc. You'll just need 5 minutes to fill it and if you can share with your Camino's friends it's be great.

I'm not gathering any personal information or email address but I'll share the results in this forum with all of you (Open Data and CC).

Thank you very much in advance and Buen Camino!
Happy to have obliged; completed 18 Jan 2021.
 

David Tallan

Veteran Member
Year of past OR future Camino
2018
I couldn't complete the survey as I have done the Camino 3 times.

For the second question, the options are:

How many times have you repeated?
Just once more [2 caminos]
More than 3 times [4 or 5 caminos]
More than 5 times [6 to 10 caminos]
More than 10 times [11+ caminos but I can remember them all]
More than I could remember
Unfortunately, never... [1 camino]

As you can see, there is no option for someone who has done precisely 3 caminos and remembers them all.
 

diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
I couldn't complete the survey as I have done the Camino 3 times.

For the second question, the options are:

How many times have you repeated?
Just once more [2 caminos]
More than 3 times [4 or 5 caminos]
More than 5 times [6 to 10 caminos]
More than 10 times [11+ caminos but I can remember them all]
More than I could remember
Unfortunately, never... [1 camino]

As you can see, there is no option for someone who has done precisely 3 caminos and remembers them all.
Thank you David for point it out! I'll modified for that case.
Bests!
 

C clearly

Moderator
Staff member
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
I know people always get picky about surveys, so I apologize for doing just that :confused:, but I genuinely found several questions too hard to answer. I do like the analysis you did on the other statistics, and the way you intend to present this information.

Some questions make more sense for people who repeat the same route, but they are confusing for people who walk different routes.

"What are your preferred ones [routes]?" - Maybe something is lost in the translation of "preferred." Do you mean which did I like best of the routes I have walked, or include those I'd like to walk? Or do you mean which route have I repeated most often? Without knowing if people have walked more than one route, the results for the "preferred" route don't have much meaning. Of course the Camino Frances will score highest - as the most popular, not the most preferred.

Same confusion for "starting point" - Should it be the starting point for a preferred route? Your only route? The starting point where you would prefer to start if you did it again?

"Edit content as amateur" - does this include an amateur blog? The only reference to blog was linked with "professional tools".

"Preferred accommodation" should have an answer such as "A mix of all the above". (That is not the same as "I really don't care." :))
 
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pellegrino

Member
Year of past OR future Camino
Various since 1998
Hi guys,

I've shared the full statistics from 2004 based on Pilgrims' Office in this post but as you may know, it's not enough.

I'm very passionated about analytics and I really appreciated if you can help me with this survey regarding motivations, caminos (an number of them), preparation, sharing with others, etc. You'll just need 5 minutes to fill it and if you can share with your Camino's friends it's be great.

I'm not gathering any personal information or email address but I'll share the results in this forum with all of you (Open Data and CC).

Thank you very much in advance and Buen Camino!
Done. Looking forward to seeing the results. Thanks.
 

diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
I know people always get picky about surveys, so I apologize for doing just that :confused:, but I genuinely found several questions too hard to answer. I do like the analysis you did on the other statistics, and the way you intend to present this information.

Some questions make more sense for people who repeat the same route, but they are confusing for people who walk different routes.

"What are your preferred ones [routes]?" - Maybe something is lost in the translation of "preferred." Do you mean which did I like best of the routes I have walked, or include those I'd like to walk? Or do you mean which route have I repeated most often? Without knowing if people have walked more than one route, the results for the "preferred" route don't have much meaning. Of course the Camino Frances will score highest - as the most popular, not the most preferred.

Same confusion for "starting point" - Should it be the starting point for a preferred route? Your only route? The starting point where you would prefer to start if you did it again?

"Edit content as amateur" - does this include an amateur blog? The only reference to blog was linked with "professional tools".

"Preferred accommodation" should have an answer such as "A mix of all the above". (That is not the same as "I really don't care." :))
Thank you so much for your comments!! I really appreciate your feedback. That's why I like "Solvitur Ambulando" approach :) and for sure, I am fully aware that designing a survey is both an art and a science. In general, it is possible that there is implicit and qualitative information but it is OK for this "analysis".

Let me try answer your questions:
- "Preferred": you're right. It is difficult to have a preferred route if you have not walked it before. In the dashboards that I am designing, you can segment by pilgrims who have traveled several routes to see their responses.
- "Starting point": here are interesting things in the responses received so far. The initial points are usually related to the preferred paths but there are also many responses such as: "as far as possible", "my home", ...
- "Content/Blog": yes... the keywords here is "amateur" and "professional"
- "Preferred Accommodation: Fixed!

Thank you again for your feedback. There are more than 90 answers right now and I'll keep the survey active so if you want to share with your contacts, it'd be great.

I'll post a specific entry with the results but you can access the first draft here.

Bests!
 
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jungleboy

Spirit of the Camino (Nick)
Year of past OR future Camino
Francés 2017
Primitivo 2018
Madrid 2019
Kumano Kodo 2019
Português 2020
Sorry it took me a while to get to this but it's done now.
 
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diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
Hi guys,

I've shared the full statistics from 2004 based on Pilgrims' Office in this post but as you may know, it's not enough.

I'm very passionated about analytics and I really appreciated if you can help me with this survey regarding motivations, caminos (an number of them), preparation, sharing with others, etc. You'll just need 5 minutes to fill it and if you can share with your Camino's friends it's be great.

I'm not gathering any personal information or email address but I'll share the results in this forum with all of you (Open Data and CC).

Thank you very much in advance and Buen Camino!
Hi guys,

I already have received more than 160 answers from 21 different countries to the survey (also in Spanish, just in case). Here you have the preliminary results. I'll publish some insights this weekend.

Thank you very much for you collaboration... and promotion!
 

Mike Wells

author of 'Cycling the Camino Frances'
Year of past OR future Camino
Camino Frances (1995) (2017 twice) (2018); Via de la Plata (1996); Finisterre (2018)
I started to complete your questionnaire but came to a full stop after the third question...What is the weight of your backpack? Most cyclists don't use backpacks and those that do soon regret doing so as their centre of gravity is too high and balance is made harder. I read on and it became clear that the survey is for walkers only.

This is disappointing. As a guidebook author, who has written a guide for cyclists and contributed chapters to a guide for walkers, I am often asked about the difference between the experience of Camino walkers and cyclists. I suspect, from talking to many cyclists and walkers, that motivation differs between the two groups in that more cyclists do it for sport/recreation/leisure than for spiritual/religious reasons. The data produced by the Pilgrims' Office do not show this because their categorisation is poor with sport/recreation/leisure not listed as a distinct choice. I had hoped your survey might shine a light on this, but as cyclists are excluded this will not be possible. Shame.
 

diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
Hi Mike,

I'm also a bicigrino (pilgrim by bike). Twice. It was not my intention to generate any kind of category among pilgrims. Not at all. I thought the 55 kg plus option would be enough but evidently it was not. Let me add that option for cyclists' saddlebags to that question.

If the Camino has taught me anything, it is not to take anything for granted. I once crossed paths with a pilgrim who came running a daily marathon from Somport. He told me that he offered his effort and sweat because it was the way that best connected with his spirituality.

You're right that the Pilgrim's Office data forms could be better or even that the data could be more OpenData but in the meantime, let me fix it.

Anyway, thank you very much for your feedback and please, let me now if you'd improve the survey in any way.

Bests,
 

diegoromerosm

Lost and found in the Camino
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
I'll share the results in this forum with all of you
Hi everyone,

As I promised, please, let me share with you the preliminary results. The survey is still open but more than 235 pilgrims from 24 countries has submitted their answers.

Let me know if you'd like to see any other metrics to build your insights. If you want to download the data, you just need to click on the upper right dots in each chart.

Thank you very much for your collaboration and Buen Camino!
 

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