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Suseya or Suseia??

Brendan@ProjectCamino

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Hi all,

Does anyone know what the correct spelling is??

Suseya or Suseia??

I have read it spelled both ways, so was hoping someone could help clear this up.

Also, does anyone know where in Santiago this picture was taken??

Ultreya-y-Suseya.jpg

Thanks,

Brendan.
 

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I am not sure but in Spanish the pronunciation is different and Suseia would be the right one because Suseya sounds similar to Susella .
 

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More seriously, it's like asking whether you spell a similar call in English like "heya" or "hey ya". Neither ultreia nur suseia are a word in any known language, and contrary to what one often reads, it's not even certain that it comes from Latin.
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I'm not a native English speaker - we are talking about spelling in an English language context here, right? - but I thought the answer is obvious: in English, it's Xunta (de Galicia) and all the others are juntas. :)
Yes, if you say Junta can be Andalucia, Extremadura, Castilla León and Castilla-La Mancha but not Galicia that is Xunta.
 
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Irony may be dead in the Forum ...
I did put a big smilie at the end of my reply.

Plus, I did actually get curious about it but that's just because I know from a previous life that it can be very important to native speaker minorities how certain names, words, place names are written/expressed in dominant languages. In this context, I once had to work through a whole night because I had no inkling beforehand of the amount of work waiting for me - and it did actually involve Spain. Maybe I've not yet shaken off this trauma :cool:.
 
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#23
Hi all,

Does anyone know what the correct spelling is??

Suseya or Suseia??

I have read it spelled both ways, so was hoping someone could help clear this up.

Also, does anyone know where in Santiago this picture was taken??

View attachment 39110

Thanks,

Brendan.
Have seen both words spelt differently so guess either spelling is fine ie ultreia e suseia Who knows
 
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Does anyone know what the correct spelling is?? Suseya or Suseia?? I have read it spelled both ways, so was hoping someone could help clear this up.
My first answer ("The correct spelling is "suseia"") wasn't complete, as I found out. There is no single spelling, but three different ones in the Codex Calixtinus (from ca.1140), where the words are originally taken from:
  • in book 1, chapter 26 it's suseia, ultreia
  • in the appendix 1 within the hymnus "Ad honorem regis summi it's E ultreia esus eia
  • in the appendix 2 within the chant "Dum pater familias" it's E ultreia, e suseia
So it's up to you which spelling you choose. The spelling with y instead of i is obviously a spanish variant.

Harald
 
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three different ones in the Codex Calixtinus [...]
  • in book 1, chapter 26 it's suseia, ultreia
  • in the appendix 1 within the hymnus "Ad honorem regis summi it's E ultreia esus eia
  • in the appendix 2 within the chant "Dum pater familias" it's E ultreia, e suseia
Thanks, this is the first time that I see a direct reference to this second text position in the codex, ie the Ad honorem hymn! And I now see that it says "e ultreia esus eia decantemus iugiter" in the text of this hymn ... "e ultreia esus eia we sing forever". Makes me wonder whether the expression has any more significance than say "eia popeia" (I'm sure you'll get this, @HaraldS :)).
 


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