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Since we can't go anywhere let me obsess, even more than usual, about gear. I'm one of those guys who loves to waste endless time making sure I've chosen exactly the right thing to take with me. We are all familiar with the endless debate about shoes and ponchos. So let's talk about the rest of our clothing...
I like to experiment and trial my clothing with many training hikes. I wear them in the sun and rain, wash them in a bowl with trail soap, and hang them them outside to dry. I then think about how they hold up to the testing. Do they stink? ( a big factor in crowded albergues). Do they dry easily in damp weather? Do they keep me cool in hot weather and dry in wet? Over 3 years and several thousand kilometers on the Camino trail I have a winner.
I wear LuluLemon brand shirts, underwear and socks. I even have a super lightweight Lululemon sports coat for post Camino relaxing. Socks, shirts, and underwear have all performed superbly and continuously for many years. The socks show no sign of wear. I usually rotate through 4 sets while walking. Never had a blister.
Some people may say their gear is too expensive. My argument is that cheap gear is exactly that, cheap. It doesn't last or fails you you when you need it most. We all know the cost of bad choices in footwear and socks.
As always there is no one right answer for the Camino. You should make your choices based on anticipated weather, route, and your needs. I'm staring at my Camino socks right now just dying to pack them up and head out to SJPP.
Bill, I agree completely about LL shirts...five years ago my daughter started giving me LL tee shirts for Christmas. I’m wore them on three Camino’s and still have them in the drawer. They’re perfect for walking. I haven’t tried their underwear or socks but I have had great luck with ExOfficio men’s underwear and Darn Tough merino wool socks. My wife loved her Icebreaker merino undergarments on her walks with me.Since we can't go anywhere let me obsess, even more than usual, about gear. I'm one of those guys who loves to waste endless time making sure I've chosen exactly the right thing to take with me. We are all familiar with the endless debate about shoes and ponchos. So let's talk about the rest of our clothing...
I like to experiment and trial my clothing with many training hikes. I wear them in the sun and rain, wash them in a bowl with trail soap, and hang them them outside to dry. I then think about how they hold up to the testing. Do they stink? ( a big factor in crowded albergues). Do they dry easily in damp weather? Do they keep me cool in hot weather and dry in wet? Over 3 years and several thousand kilometers on the Camino trail I have a winner.
I wear LuluLemon brand shirts, underwear and socks
For me too; and Costco or Big W or Target or K Mart. But a few select things that are made locally with craftsmanship are worth it. Nothing like a silk dress to slip into after a shower at the end of a hard day's walk!My designer label gear all comes from Aldi.
I think what everyone buys is up to the individual person. You are in a very good position to be able to afford good gear and yes good gear that is well taken care of can last a very long time. I am a "budget" pilgrim and I do think there is a good middle ground between paying alot to buy top quality gear and buying cheap gear that probably will not last very long. What I do is go to a few different websites like REI in the United States (I see you are Canadian, don't know if REI has stores in Canada). I check out the REI Outlet and other websites that have closeout and discontinued Backpack, socks and clothes. I have been able to buy gear that is of excellent quality at a fraction of their original price. For example on my Camino last year that I walked in November and December, I bought a buff, beanie hat, gloves quick dry smart wool long sleeve shirts that were fantastic and never smelled after numerous wearings all for under $90. I still wear a few things I bought on my first camino. When Spain says we can walk again, and I am so happy to say I just had my first of two vaccines I will start my 6th camino with some of the same gear I used on my first one. I will also use all that stuff I just bought on my next camino. I usually have to replace my gear because I leave things in albergues, or bars or in the dryer way, way too long. It really can be a great compromise. I may not get the colors I like or the style I want, but how often does one get chastised by the fashion police on a camino????Since we can't go anywhere let me obsess, even more than usual, about gear. I'm one of those guys who loves to waste endless time making sure I've chosen exactly the right thing to take with me. We are all familiar with the endless debate about shoes and ponchos. So let's talk about the rest of our clothing...
I like to experiment and trial my clothing with many training hikes. I wear them in the sun and rain, wash them in a bowl with trail soap, and hang them them outside to dry. I then think about how they hold up to the testing. Do they stink? ( a big factor in crowded albergues). Do they dry easily in damp weather? Do they keep me cool in hot weather and dry in wet? Over 3 years and several thousand kilometers on the Camino trail I have a winner.
I wear LuluLemon brand shirts, underwear and socks. I even have a super lightweight Lululemon sports coat for post Camino relaxing. Socks, shirts, and underwear have all performed superbly and continuously for many years. The socks show no sign of wear. I usually rotate through 4 sets while walking. Never had a blister.
Some people may say their gear is too expensive. My argument is that cheap gear is exactly that, cheap. It doesn't last or fails you you when you need it most. We all know the cost of bad choices in footwear and socks.
As always there is no one right answer for the Camino. You should make your choices based on anticipated weather, route, and your needs. I'm staring at my Camino socks right now just dying to pack them up and head out to SJPP.
I think I have to completely disagree. When you live on a fixed income the upfront costs are without a doubt not just the true cost but automatically decides any purchase. You should consider yourself blessed that you can make that statement. No criticism but not everyone can say that. As I said in another post you can buy good quality and durable clothes and gear for a fraction of the price for the products you and others have mentioned and they last with a little care a very long time.That's the term I was looking for "economical". Better to buy the right item that serves you best over the long term. The upfront cost is not the true cost.
Yes of course you’re right. I would return to the Camino in 2nd hand clothing if need be because I found the walk so fulfilling.I think I have to completely disagree. When you live on a fixed income the upfront costs are without a doubt not just the true cost but automatically decides any purchase. You should consider yourself blessed that you can make that statement. No criticism but not everyone can say that. As I said in another post you can buy good quality and durable clothes and gear for a fraction of the price for the products you and others have mentioned and they last with a little care a very long time.
As a person who never cared about clothes and even before I was forced because of circumstance and choice I had to roll back and live a far simpler and “economic” life. It blows me away when I see what some of these websites charge for shirts, underwear and jackets. Yes you and some others are lucky you have the luxury of buying what you want. Yea I am sure they do last a long time. So do the $12 quick dry shirts that I have worn since 2012. For others you can outfit a Camino for so much less and the lessons we learn teaches us that each one of us can get a different meaning from things like the Camino gives us what we need not what we want and all you truly need is family, friendship, love and what you carry on your back. That the true burdens of life is everything else you own or want. Again not a criticism but my feelings and beliefs. Buen Camino and stay safe
I have to agree. I have several of the name brand items mentioned here. Ice breaker, Patagonia, Smartwool, etc. because I liked them for the fit and comfort for certain items. I, fortunately, am able to fork out the money and considered myself blessed. But I also have some very inexpensive gear (Costco) that has lasted me years as well. And though I can afford to does not mean I want to make these companies even richer. LOLI think I have to completely disagree. When you live on a fixed income the upfront costs are without a doubt not just the true cost but automatically decides any purchase. You should consider yourself blessed that you can make that statement. No criticism but not everyone can say that. As I said in another post you can buy good quality and durable clothes and gear for a fraction of the price for the products you and others have mentioned and they last with a little care a very long time.
As a person who never cared about clothes and even before I was forced because of circumstance and choice I had to roll back and live a far simpler and “economic” life. It blows me away when I see what some of these websites charge for shirts, underwear and jackets. Yes you and some others are lucky you have the luxury of buying what you want. Yea I am sure they do last a long time. So do the $12 quick dry shirts that I have worn since 2012. For others you can outfit a Camino for so much less and the lessons we learn teaches us that each one of us can get a different meaning from things like the Camino gives us what we need not what we want and all you truly need is family, friendship, love and what you carry on your back. That the true burdens of life is everything else you own or want. Again not a criticism but my feelings and beliefs. Buen Camino and stay safe
May I recommend, I’d they are sold where you live Toms shoes. Not for walking everyday but for albergues and at night. Super light and I did wear them for 6-8 k stretches ehrn I had a blister once. They also do great humanitarian work:@BombayBill : you described it perfectly.
What also is important for me when buying clothes and shoes is the fact that I can trace if they are ethically manufactured and the people who make them get a decent pay.
Curious. How did your hat work for bugs? The flies about drove me crazy.Hat- Sun day Afternoons Bug free Adventure Hat. It has a visor only on the front only and it does not interfere with my backpack.
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Big fan of Icebreaker brand. Wear them (nearly) all year round, including the underwear. We're in Queensland, Australia, so height of summer it's only the underwear that gets any use. I love how they have the different weights, so good for layering.Love, Love my Icebreaker Merino. They have done me proud over many Caminos
Yes the right tape is good, the wrong tape will pull off a layer of skin or a layer of toenail surface.On my 1st Camino I met a young Japanese woman. Each morning she wrapped her feet in ducttape.
She never had blisters.
I stuck to wearing high quality socks, but every now and then I do have a blister.
Nevertheless, I just can't force myself to trying duct tape.
Is your tape in the picture the right tape...or wrong tape? It would seem on any true blisters that any tape would be bad...ouch! I've only used duct tape on a hot spot on my toe with good results.Yes the right tape is good, the wrong tape will pull off a layer of skin or a layer of toenail surface.
I've never had a blister. Walked thousands of miles. Never used tape either. I do use one sponge toe sleeve due to previous damage to one toe which causes it to rub against its neighbour. I use olive oil and a spot of t tree oil daily, walking or not, on my feet. When walking, bamboo socks next to my feet and merino socks above. My full on boots were bought using a trained boot fitter after a five mile walk late in the afternoon allowing the boots to correctly match the circumstances of my feet if they were to swell with that type if use.On my 1st Camino I met a young Japanese woman. Each morning she wrapped her feet in ducttape.
She never had blisters.
I stuck to wearing high quality socks, but every now and then I do have a blister.
Nevertheless, I just can't force myself to trying duct tape.
Are not bed sores more related to pressure than friction?I've never had a blister. Walked thousands of miles. Never used tape either. I do use one sponge toe sleeve due to previous damage to one toe which causes it to rub against its neighbour. I use olive oil and a spot of t tree oil daily, walking or not, on my feet. When walking, bamboo socks next to my feet and merino socks above. My full on boots were bought using a trained boot fitter after a five mile walk late in the afternoon allowing the boots to correctly match the circumstances of my feet if they were to swell with that type if use.
There are not many large studies into blisters for walkers etc, but there are a number of studies into bed sores which are similarly friction sores, they made interesting reading
I had PF but have solved that with the given exercises and use of supafeet green insoles.
They take a bit if getting used to but they do the job.
I know that quite a few people have said this on the forum. I just find it hard to believe - seriously, never had a blister (on your foot)? If so, it surely means that your skin is different in some way from mine. I guess that should not be a surprise, given all of our individual differences, but it probably isn't just our different sock or footcare practices.I've never had a blister.
I know that quite a few people have said this on the forum. I just find it hard to believe - seriously, never had a blister (on your foot)? If so, it surely means that your skin is different in some way from mine. I guess that should not be a surprise, given all of our individual differences, but it probably isn't just our different sock or footcare practices.
Yes, as with most such issues, it is likely a combo. Some people are very vulnerable to blisters and even the "best" practices won't always work. Other people are not vulnerable, and don't need special practices. Then there is a big range of people in between!So for me it actually seems to not be some magical foot skin but the stuff I'm using.
This tape was okay, problem tape was a type of super strong Leuko tape, which I plied before blisters appeared. Disaster hit after this, I took off a Compeed bandage which wrapped a blister on the bottom of a toe and all the skin came with it. I was kindly treated at a Fromista clinic with Betadine gel, soft Spanish “second skin” and gauze. Can’t say enough good about the kind treatment I received. Volumes could be written about blisters, feet and treatment of.Is your tape in the picture the right tape...or wrong tape? It would seem on any true blisters that any tape would be bad...ouch! I've only used duct tape on a hot spot on my toe with good results.
For camino repeat-offenders, there's a potential problem with Lululemon T-shirts (and purple rain skirts, for that matter. All your camino photos will look the same as they're indestructible!Since we can't go anywhere let me obsess, even more than usual, about gear. I'm one of those guys who loves to waste endless time making sure I've chosen exactly the right thing to take with me. We are all familiar with the endless debate about shoes and ponchos. So let's talk about the rest of our clothing...
I like to experiment and trial my clothing with many training hikes. I wear them in the sun and rain, wash them in a bowl with trail soap, and hang them them outside to dry. I then think about how they hold up to the testing. Do they stink? ( a big factor in crowded albergues). Do they dry easily in damp weather? Do they keep me cool in hot weather and dry in wet? Over 3 years and several thousand kilometers on the Camino trail I have a winner.
I wear LuluLemon brand shirts, underwear and socks. I even have a super lightweight Lululemon sports coat for post Camino relaxing. Socks, shirts, and underwear have all performed superbly and continuously for many years. The socks show no sign of wear. I usually rotate through 4 sets while walking. Never had a blister.
Some people may say their gear is too expensive. My argument is that cheap gear is exactly that, cheap. It doesn't last or fails you you when you need it most. We all know the cost of bad choices in footwear and socks.
As always there is no one right answer for the Camino. You should make your choices based on anticipated weather, route, and your needs. I'm staring at my Camino socks right now just dying to pack them up and head out to SJPP.
Thank you for your recommendation! And hiking pants? What are your thoughts on the zip-off pants that turn into shorts? Has anyone thoughts to offer on these for the variable weather on the trail?Since we can't go anywhere let me obsess, even more than usual, about gear. I'm one of those guys who loves to waste endless time making sure I've chosen exactly the right thing to take with me. We are all familiar with the endless debate about shoes and ponchos. So let's talk about the rest of our clothing...
I like to experiment and trial my clothing with many training hikes. I wear them in the sun and rain, wash them in a bowl with trail soap, and hang them them outside to dry. I then think about how they hold up to the testing. Do they stink? ( a big factor in crowded albergues). Do they dry easily in damp weather? Do they keep me cool in hot weather and dry in wet? Over 3 years and several thousand kilometers on the Camino trail I have a winner.
I wear LuluLemon brand shirts, underwear and socks. I even have a super lightweight Lululemon sports coat for post Camino relaxing. Socks, shirts, and underwear have all performed superbly and continuously for many years. The socks show no sign of wear. I usually rotate through 4 sets while walking. Never had a blister.
Some people may say their gear is too expensive. My argument is that cheap gear is exactly that, cheap. It doesn't last or fails you you when you need it most. We all know the cost of bad choices in footwear and socks.
As always there is no one right answer for the Camino. You should make your choices based on anticipated weather, route, and your needs. I'm staring at my Camino socks right now just dying to pack them up and head out to SJPP.
Yes, a skirt or dress is easier, and cooler when you walk in warm weather. In variable weather you can put a pair of leggings on underneath in the morning, and take them off as the day gets warmer. Some women wear skorts, but they don't have the same advantages as skirts and dresses, since they are just shorts with a skirt attached.I wear a skirt now. For women, consider the advantages when you have to have a "technical stop". A skirt is much easier.
If you are having trouble finding the grey colour in the stores, it is easy enough to create at home. I am far less fussed about separating whites from coloured now, than I used to be.My contribution is that when I buy new underwear now (and it is necessary sometimes) I go for grey. Grey bras are great!
I virtually never wear shorts at home, and I don't want them on the camino. I wear long pants - the most comfortable that I can find. The idea of a skirt has some merit, in my mind, but I don't think I could carry off the "look."What are your thoughts on the zip-off pants
Thanks, C clearly. I get super hot in the warm weather, so I thought a "shorts" option might be good. Are there (specific) reasons why you wouldn't bring shorts on the Camino? Maybe there's something else that I need to know...?If you are having trouble finding the grey colour in the stores, it is easy enough to create at home. I am far less fussed about separating whites from coloured now, than I used to be.
I virtually never wear shorts at home, and I don't want them on the camino. I wear long pants - the most comfortable that I can find. The idea of a skirt has some merit, in my mind, but I don't think I could carry off the "look."
No. I rarely wear them at home either, so I'd want alternative long pants anyway. Other people wear shorts, depending on season, of course.Are there (specific) reasons why you wouldn't bring shorts on the Camino?
Try Vick’s between your toes everyday. Works like a charm! And washes away.On my 1st Camino I met a young Japanese woman. Each morning she wrapped her feet in ducttape.
She never had blisters.
I stuck to wearing high quality socks, but every now and then I do have a blister.
Nevertheless, I just can't force myself to trying duct tape.
I use tape on my blister prone areas, but not duct tape! I like Omnifix tape, which is thin, soft and slightly stretchy, which helps it to conform to the count ours of my feet. It, and the similar Hypafix are widely available in farmacias in Spain.On my 1st Camino I met a young Japanese woman. Each morning she wrapped her feet in ducttape.
She never had blisters.
I stuck to wearing high quality socks, but every now and then I do have a blister.
Nevertheless, I just can't force myself to trying duct tape.
Try paper surgical tape. Put onto the hot spots in the morning. Accept that foot perspiration will have ruined the glue by the time you take a shower in afternoon, and accept that you will buy more than one roll. If you begin to develop a blister away from the known hot spots, clean with alcohol (hand sanitizer), put some gauze, and cover with the tape.On my 1st Camino I met a young Japanese woman. Each morning she wrapped her feet in ducttape.
She never had blisters.
I stuck to wearing high quality socks, but every now and then I do have a blister.
Nevertheless, I just can't force myself to trying duct tape.
I just found out about an awesome (product) from another gentleman on this site (thank you, Rob) - it's sheep's wool or hiker's wool, as some call it. It's very light, so you can get a bag of it and tote it with you. Whenever you feel a hotspot or a blister forming, you simply ball up a bit of wool and place it in between the tender spot and your sock...and it sticks in place! You can even wrap it around your toes, etc...Try paper surgical tape. Put onto the hot spots in the morning. Accept that foot perspiration will have ruined the glue by the time you take a shower in afternoon, and accept that you will buy more than one roll. If you begin to develop a blister away from the known hot spots, clean with alcohol (hand sanitizer), put some gauze, and cover with the tape.
This setup after more than one Camino...and the first one, before I knew anything at all, was miserable. But one lives and learns.
Buen Camino to all
Hi TweekesGood ideas! I haven't committed to buying a pair of the zip-offs yet but was curious to know if the zipper seem rubs on your thighs. They can be so expensive, so maybe I'll head to a thrift store and see if I can find cheaper ones to try out, before committing to a higher quality pair. Thank you!
Yes, it's wonderful stuff, I just pick a bagful of fallen wool in the local sheep field wash and dry it well and keep for using while walking long distances, make a pad and stick it with medical tape on any pressure points. ( I think lambs wool is better if you can get it)I just found out about an awesome (product) from another gentleman on this site (thank you, Rob) - it's sheep's wool or hiker's wool, as some call it. It's very light, so you can get a bag of it and tote it with you. Whenever you feel a hotspot or a blister forming, you simply ball up a bit of wool and place it in between the tender spot and your sock...and it sticks in place! You can even wrap it around your toes, etc...
I really like the zip-off hiking pants (trousers for the British in the audience) that I wore on my 2016 and 2018 Caminos. I believe they are the Columbia Silver Ridge Convertible Pants. They would be my candidate for "best clothing I've worn on Camino".Thank you for your recommendation! And hiking pants? What are your thoughts on the zip-off pants that turn into shorts? Has anyone thoughts to offer on these for the variable weather on the trail?
I love wearing shorts, but notice that the older I get, the longer they get.No. I rarely wear them at home either, so I'd want alternative long pants anyway. Other people wear shorts, depending on season, of course.
Yes, exactly. I have noticed that they are now down to my shoes.I love wearing shorts, but notice that the older I get, the longer they get.
Unfortunately the kilts are out of stock atm, but i will get myself one once they are back. Thanks for the recommendation!For camino repeat-offenders, there's a potential problem with Lululemon T-shirts (and purple rain skirts, for that matter. All your camino photos will look the same as they're indestructible!
I love wearing shorts, but notice that the older I get, the longer they get.
Truly don't understand that. If you have zip problems they are quite easy to either stich up "solid" or rip the remainder of the zip through and you'll have a pair of shorts.My view on zip offs is that when something goes wrong with the zip you have neither pants or shorts...hopefully you have underwear. Moreover when they are wet you have no alternative. My preference is shorts and pants and sometimes belts and suspenders
You can also make your own. I made my own silk sleep sack, rain gear, and merino wool hiking dresses.Personally I like Kuhl brand for outer clothing, underarmour for inner clothing and Oboz footwear. Mind you, pricey stuff there. I never like to come across on this forum that one needs expensive equipment to walk the Camino. You most definitely do not. You can easily kit yourself out to walk it with stuff you can purchase at stores like Decathlon, Walmart, Target and the like. Also Amazon is a great place to get reasonably priced clothing and equipment.
If you are going to wash it then just use plain, cold water. No soap or detergent or you will wash out the natural lanolin. The lanolin is the main reason for using raw wool.Yes, it's wonderful stuff, I just pick a bagful of fallen wool in the local sheep field wash and dry it well and keep for using while walking long distances, make a pad and stick it with medical tape on any pressure points. ( I think lambs wool is better if you can get it)
lol .... I have reacted the same way myself when I see the prices of some of the gear recommended here.Simply out of curiosity I looked at the price of a lululemon t-shirt. I’m now trying to mop my mouthful of tea out from between the keys on my laptop.
Fifty dollars would be a bargain for a Smart Wool shirt. This long sleeve t-shirt is $85!A fifty dollar smart wool shirt? Oh my. That would bother me.
85 bucks... wow. Too rich for my blood in terms of a shirt. I also look at it in terms of nights at albergues. That's about ten nights worth in one shirt. About a third of my average Camino.Fifty dollars would be a bargain for a Smart Wool shirt. This long sleeve t-shirt is $85!
Smartwool Merino 150 Crew Base Layer Long-Sleeve Top - Men's | REI Co-op
Spring skiing or summer camping? The year-round Smartwool Merino 150 long-sleeve base layer crew top is game for either, thanks to the body temperature-regulating and no-stink properties of merino.www.rei.com
I was extremely grateful for my toe socks and bucket hat.Since we can't go anywhere let me obsess, even more than usual, about gear. I'm one of those guys who loves to waste endless time making sure I've chosen exactly the right thing to take with me. We are all familiar with the endless debate about shoes and ponchos. So let's talk about the rest of our clothing...
I like to experiment and trial my clothing with many training hikes. I wear them in the sun and rain, wash them in a bowl with trail soap, and hang them them outside to dry. I then think about how they hold up to the testing. Do they stink? ( a big factor in crowded albergues). Do they dry easily in damp weather? Do they keep me cool in hot weather and dry in wet? Over 3 years and several thousand kilometers on the Camino trail I have a winner.
I wear LuluLemon brand shirts, underwear and socks. I even have a super lightweight Lululemon sports coat for post Camino relaxing. Socks, shirts, and underwear have all performed superbly and continuously for many years. The socks show no sign of wear. I usually rotate through 4 sets while walking. Never had a blister.
Some people may say their gear is too expensive. My argument is that cheap gear is exactly that, cheap. It doesn't last or fails you you when you need it most. We all know the cost of bad choices in footwear and socks.
As always there is no one right answer for the Camino. You should make your choices based on anticipated weather, route, and your needs. I'm staring at my Camino socks right now just dying to pack them up and head out to SJPP.
If you are sharing chocolate, I want to walk with you!Great thread and can't say that I haven't been doing a bit of daydreaming and planning in the same fashion as the OP... per usual, by the time I get around to things, I'm in the back of the pack. :>)
Outdoor Research (OR) or Mountain Hardware (Columbia brand) base layer shirts, $10 rain poncho (REI),
Ex-Officio zip leg trousers (with Insect Repellent finish) - my first two pair are now 8 years old, veterans of CF and CP and still looking good, Columbia Splitter 38L pack, Ex-Officio underwear (quick dry and no odors), Wright Socks or Road Runner Dry Max 5.0, Salomon Trail Runners (non-goretex), OR Cap with snap on neck protector for the hottest days (my Italian friends say it "does not" make me look like Lawrence of Arabia :>( , 15 oz (1000mg) North Face sleep sack, 2 meters NiteIze nylon rope w/ carabiner for hanging gear or wet clothes.
I'm working on the other stuff... booklets/maps, power supply (solar or no), dark chocolate (normally carry at least 1lb for emergency (or sharing)).
More daydreaming ahead, after my daily run.
Thanks for the prompts and great ideas.
Buen Camino
Wow. That’s genius. I swear every hike I go I scan the terrain for thee perfect walking stick. Straight, strong, lightweight, and smooth on the hands. Imagine that, I could’ve saved time spent looking for flowers or mountains instead of foraging through woodland debris!! Still some habits are hard to break, but it’s great knowing that a simpler option is available when you need it. Plus I could mop up the next mess I make. Thanks for sharing.Here's a last word on value. On the CP several years ago I met 2 Spanish gentlemen. They were repeat hikers and they were both carrying wooden poles as walking sticks. I asked where they got them. They told me that walking poles were essential on the Camino but otherwise a nuisance before and after. So they both bought wooden mop handle replacements as aids at the beginning and gave them away when they they were no longer needed.
Now there's value!
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