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"Buff" question for native English speakers

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David Tallan

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Robo

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Does it still exist as a separate and identifiable regiment, or has it gone the way of so many of those wonderful county regiments and been amalgamated out of existence?
Buffs_(Royal_East_Kent_Regiment)_Cap_Badge (1).jpg

Sadly Yes. Now Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment (Queen's and Royal Hampshires).
 
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Jeff Crawley

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Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
Stumbled upon a London based company called CONTRADO that will print off small batches of "neck warmers" ;) to your personalised design:

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If you just want one made they're £18 each but the price goes down as you order more. . . .

1 = £18 each

2, 3, 4 or 5 = £16 each

10 = £10 each

20 = £8 each

20 at £8 each might be of interest to a club or small group of pilgrims - I think you'd have to order a minimum of 200 if you buy custom Buffs.
 
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Marbe2

Active member
Camino(s) past & future
2015 SJPD to Burgos
2017 Leon to Santiago
Pamplona to Santiago Mar. 2018
Burgos - SCDC (Oct 18)
Interesting. I am an american. I never heard the word Buff...until I joined this forum and I have hiked in Europe for more than 30 years. Have used scarfs or Balaclavas...but no buffs....:)
 

theladypainted

New Member
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar
I think it is overkill on a company like that to go after a small operation like yours. A few years ago a local guy around my area (Minnesota) had Cartier coming after him because his insurance company had the same name.... difference? Cartier was HIS last name and he pronounced it carteer. I seem to remember he won.
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
I think it is overkill on a company like that to go after a small operation like yours. A few years ago a local guy around my area (Minnesota) had Cartier coming after him because his insurance company had the same name.... difference? Cartier was HIS last name and he pronounced it carteer. I seem to remember he won.
McDonalds famously went after an Irish burger chain claiming that the Irish "SuperMac" burger could be confused thit McDonalds' Big Mac. They lost, they no longer have exclusive rights to the "Big Mac" anywhere inside the European Union.
Which led to a competitor bring out this video
 

Tim Eagle

Tim
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Planning Camino del Norte 2019
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar
Some ideas include: neck gaiter, neck warmer, tube hat, and tube scarf.
 

erikakiana

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Francés July-August 2019
I always thought that "buff" was that way because it was a Spanish company and it was like "bufanda". For me, it's not something common I see here in the US, but when I taught English at a school in Spain, many of the kids would wear them even during classes. I'm blanking on what I would call them, though ...
 

Darren.R

cyclists required may/June 2018
Camino(s) past & future
Walked from Sarria to SDC in 2015. Planning to cycle from Pamplona to SDC around May/june 2018
Although I have bought a “buff” in the past, I tend to call them snood’s.
I was told years ago that it was a combination of the words scarf, neck, and hood.
I do however agree the word buff is a branded name for this product,
but I also agree that it’s been in the English language for that it’s become a proper noun, like hoover and Jeep.
 

Chica36

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar
Bandana scarf
 

Zoran K.

ZK1107
Camino(s) past & future
CF - SJPDP to Santiago 1st - 29th July 2018
CF - SJPDP to Santiago 25th June - 22nd July 2019
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar
Just call it BUF(F), BUFFF, BUPHF, BUFPH or BUPHPH and everyone will know what you are talking about and at the same time they'll have fun. However if you use one of those to words I will want payment for it hahahahahaha...just joking.
Really Ivar, if you justuse one of the above ;)
 

Mazfil

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Future
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar
If you google Buff you will see it is registered trade mark so would say you cannot use, silly I know
 

Kathar1na

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santiago and beyond (own way - voie de Tours - camino francés - Biskaya - Manche)
This thread will go on forever
This was said 140 messages ago. I wonder whether this is the forum thread with the highest number of participants, in other words, the most popular forum thread of all times. 🙃
 

Camino Hopeful

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Santiago (2020)
Somewhat late I know but I believe this item of clothing is known as a snood. It has been used since at least medieval times in English speaking countries and has been favored by motorcycle riders in English speaking countries for many a year to the present day..
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
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Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
This was said 140 messages ago. I wonder whether this is the forum thread with the highest number of participants, in other words, the most popular forum thread of all times. 🙃
Sorry I reopened the wound :( just trying to be helpful . . .
 

Kathar1na

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Santiago and beyond (own way - voie de Tours - camino francés - Biskaya - Manche)
Sorry I reopened the wound :( just trying to be helpful . . .
No need to apologise. I'm quite amused. And I think the very recent "neck cosy" had not even been mentioned before ...🙃
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking.
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
I have two original "Buff"s which I have enjoyed on Caminos, especially when I came down with a terrible cold and sore throat in April. I was able to cover the buff on my neck and in the colder mornings lift a portion above my nose. It stayed securely and warmed up the air I was breathing as I walked. It helped immensely.
That said, I have purchased two knock offs. They are thinner and flimsier and I do not like them as well, kinda like "you get what you pay for". They do not fit as securely and snug as the original name brand Buffs...'just sayin.
 

mmmmartin

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Thanks for every one of these comments. I have now taken delivery of a buff-like object from Ivar. 20190905_191448.jpg
 

Camino Chrissy

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Interesting. I am an american. I never heard the word Buff...until I joined this forum and I have hiked in Europe for more than 30 years. Have used scarfs or Balaclavas...but no buffs....:)
I first heard of a "buff" in 2000 while watching the American reality tv show "Survivor", as all the contestants are given one to wear continuously to identify the playing team they are on.
 
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Camino Frances, 2015
I first heard of a "buff" in 2000 while watching the American reality tv show "Survivor", as all the contestants are given one to wear continuously to identify the playing team they are on.
I thought you were going to mention the winner, Richard Hatch, who spent a lot of time "in the buff" [naked].
 
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Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking.
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
I thought you were going to mention the winner, Richard Hatch, who spent a lot of time "in the buff".
Love it, Rick! You are so funny, and yes, he did! Thankfully "it" was blocked out. We have watched all the seasons faithfully since the beginning, except when on vacation or walking caminos. It is one of the few shows we look forward to watching each season.
 

David Harbert

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
(2016)
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar
I know these can be configured and worn in many different ways but when worn on the top of the head in the U.S. they are often called a do-rag or du-rag.
 

julia.viljoen

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Francaise (2008, 2010, 2013. Portuguese (September 2019).
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar
Hi Ivar,
These items are well known in South Africa where they have been called buffs since pa fell off the bus. I was told the name originated when motorcyclists started wearing them to the annual Buffalo Motorcycle Rally, often simpy referred to as The Buff. I have never heard of the Spanish connection till now. Interestingly enough the registered name is Buff S.A. S.A. as in South Africa?

Best wishes from Porriño, on my way to Santiago.

Julia
 

MarkyD

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Francés 31/08/2018 - 20/10/2018
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar
Ok, having read some, but not all of the replies, I'm suddenly inspired to give it a new name altogether:
It is a MUHANWA - multi use head and neck wrap accessory. Start your own trade name!
 

Kathar1na

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santiago and beyond (own way - voie de Tours - camino francés - Biskaya - Manche)
I have never heard of the Spanish connection till now. Interestingly enough the registered name is Buff S.A. S.A. as in South Africa?
S.A. stand for Societat anònima in Catalan or Sociedad anónima in Spanish. Buff S.A. operates from Catalonia in Spain.

Sociedad anónima designates a type of corporation under the company law of many European countries. It's roughly equivalent to plc in the UK and Inc. in the US.
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
Hi Ivar,
These items are well known in South Africa where they have been called buffs since pa fell off the bus. I was told the name originated when motorcyclists started wearing them to the annual Buffalo Motorcycle Rally, often simpy referred to as The Buff. I have never heard of the Spanish connection till now. Interestingly enough the registered name is Buff S.A. S.A. as in South Africa?

Best wishes from Porriño, on my way to Santiago.

Julia
South Africa is ZA - Zuid-Afrika, you should know that ;)
 

Joseito

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances
Hola all,

I have a strange question.... it is regarding the word "Buff". What I mean is the clothing that one puts over ones head, like a scarf, but sown into a circle. Many of you have used it on the Camino I am sure.

I sell them on my store, but today got a message from a representative of the "Original Buff" company saying that I could not use the word buff to describe any product that is not made by them. That they had registered it as a trademark.

If this is the case (I need to look this up, is there a way to do this?), what could I use as a description for this piece of clothing? I thought it was "Buff"... much like t-shirt is a t-shirt. Since English is not my first language, I ask here.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Ivar

Maybe try calling them "Not a buff" 😆
 

Kanga

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese, Primitivo
There's an Australian company that makes them featuring Aboriginal designs. The Australian company has registered the name "Headsox" which I think is clever. I like to wear Ivar's Camino product (by whatever name) when walking in Australia, and when walking in Europe I like to wear a one with an Aboriginal design. They make great presents when travelling - easy to carry and lightweight.
 

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