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newfydog said:You might find the albergue accepts you, but the inhabitants don't!
Well said, that's the essence of it right there, your camino is, YOUR CAMINO! Enjoy the experience in your own way!jpflavin1 said:I do not recall any Albergue turning someone away who forwarded their pack. Everyone should walk the Camino in a manner they are comfortable. There is no right or wrong way. It is your Camino.
Ultreya,
Joe
Anniesantiago said:If, after those weary pilgrims have been given beds, there are beds left, then the bicigrinos and taxigrinos and busigrinos should be served. But that's my personal feeling.
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newfydog said:Do you have a hierachy of worthiness? Apparently a person on a bike is lower than a walker. Do they rank above a busigrino? Are private taxigrinos the least holy of all pilgrims?
falcon269 said:You will see pilgrims pick up their backpacks at the edge of town from vehicles to circumvent the rule. .
The question is not about authenticity in this topic; it is about who gets a bed at a refuge. "Authentic pilgrims" have received Compostelas in Villafranca del Bierzo, and Alto del Perdon has been considered a suitable place for forgiveness.Authentic? Authentic to when?
Snorers must be silenced/you MUST wear earplugs! Cyclists are not real pilgrims! People who just walk the last 100km are lesser pilgrims!You might find the albergue accepts you, but the inhabitants don't!
Lydia Gillen said:Thanks Annie for your wisdom
I might be wrong, but someone feeling they have to withdraw from commenting seems to me to be a significant level of tension:Anniesantiago said:Well, I don't really see a lot of serious bickering between people on this thread.
DesertRain said:That said, I shall no longer share my opinions here. I genuinely wish you all a Buen Camino – whatever that means to you.
Whose responsibility is it?someone feeling they have to withdraw from commenting seems to me to be a significant level of tension
.Anniesantiago said:We are ALL judgmental.
It's a fact of life.
We make judgments all day long.
And often, when I'm calling others unfairly judgmental, I've learned to look in the mirror to see the REAL judgmental person! :lol:
In fact, the original question was whether "albergues" refuse.....etc.newfydog said:You're all being really judgemental of the judgemental!
falcon269 said:It is not an issue of two classes of pilgrims, but a matter of trying to provide support for the ones who are working the hardest. It may not be a perfect system, but it has some logic behind it, and it has the full backing of pack-carrying pilgrims.
nellpilgrim said:... As 'penance' for any sins Fr Augusto instructed us to be kind to ourselves and to be joyous in our lives....... he said "remember God doesn't count your steps nor Santiago weigh your pack- what they measure is your heart pilgrim, so look to your heart ....and take care of your feet!".
Hola Fatima,Fatima1964 said:Reading the comments I feel very guilty and ashamed for having to do it if I need to do it
Oh Dear Rubyslippers.rubyslippers said:Dear Fatima 1964 - I wanted to make another post as I did the Camino again in Sept. I have a slipped 4/5 vertebrae and I only got into the walk about 10 days and had to quit. Just carrying it around before I even started an incline cause me pain in my hip and leg. Don't be afraid to have someone take it on ahead for you. <3 Enjoy your walk
Thanks oursonpolaire for your advice . yes I can speak Spanish , also my doctor already wrote my diagnostic etc. etc. As I am worry , not because of the my own problem. I lived with this almost 3 years. But as far I will put a lot of effort on my body, maybe I can have pain or worth injure. Must be prepare . from now on just in God hands.oursonpolaire said:Fatima-- it might help if you had a sentence or two in Spanish which refers to your condition. As well (and this is advice I hand out to everyone without asking), if you have a complex medical situation, it is often useful to have your doctor draw up a diagnostic note with the treatment described, and then have it put into Spanish by a medical translator. It is not cheap (usually $100-150), but I have had friends who were greatly aided by this-- when they fell ill, they just handed it to their Spanish nurse and doctor, and it saved them a great deal of trouble.
You've got it cobberDaxzentzu said:make your own way, in your own way and it is not for any of us to judge each other.
Welcome to the forum.Hi,
I want to start my Camino on JUly or August, 2014
I'm 56 women with knee problem, I can't do the camino carrying my whole backpack, first: i walk slowly, i will be walking 15/20 KM per day.
so I will be the last one in get a bed and in July or August, there are so many people, (i can't do the camino in other dates) second: maybe I will finish my camino without getting to santiago, if I carry a big backpack, with all my stuff.
so, the question is: do I continuing to prepare my camino ? or cancel my wish to do it, because the other people who are carrying a backpack will seeing me like a cheater?
Which is one of the reasons why one should budget for the chances of having to stay somewhere else instead of in a cheap (municipal, parroquial, etc.) albergue. If a private albergue cannot accept your reservation for a bed, ask for an address for a room or other accommodation in the (nearest) village or town. On the Camino Francés you rarely have to walk too far and find somewhere to stay at a reasanable cost. Couples have the advantage that a room is often not (much) more expensive than 2 beds in a private albergue. Of course one is missing the comradeship, as well as clothes washing facilities! But it shouldn't happen every day[...]it's just when you are walking the Camino you always have to be prepared for some upset to your best laid plans, good weather or bad!
Amen!From page 423 of the Authentic Pilgrim's™ Guide to the Camino:
You are not really going to carry your own gear are you?!!?! That is the purpose of serfs! But should you choose to leave them at home, the Authentic Pilgrim™ recommends that you at least have a pack mule. Not only will you appreciate not having to carry your hemp sack over the Pyrenees yourself, you you will also appreciate it when, after getting a hoof infection that goes systemic, your mule’s carcass provides plenty of meat for a feast at that night’s albergue stop.
Seriously.... I am getting so depressed by all of the people who continually pass judgement on how others travel the Camino.... Authentic? Authentic to when? 1100? 1750? 1966? Authentic to who? A 16th century nobleman who travels with retainers and servants? A 19th century nun who has taken vows of poverty? A 1940's Franco supporter who devoutly prays daily for the murder of all socialists?
We can only be authentic to ourselves, here and now. No one knows our inner motivations, our physical limitations, our intentions or our hope or dreams for the Camino. Those who live in glass houses....
Hi Anna,
I never saw a pilgrim turned away for not having a pack...the key to entrance being your pilgrim passport. A municipal albergue may require a sello from the previous night's stay to gain entrance though private albergues (Red Albergue members come to mind) seem to want a full house regardless of how you arrive.
Buen "walking with my pack" Camino
Arn
What is the distance qualification for a Compestella when travelling by canoe exactly?
Gosh this is an old thread. I am almost scared to resurrect it! In its day it was burning hot!
Wonder if any of those original people got turned away for bag transport, or bumped by outrageous touregrino rudeness...
Just the British at Rabanal! When we Brexit they may have toThings have changed since the thread was made ...
There are now very few albergues that refuse to accommodate the JacoTrans etc ...
Just the British at Rabanal! When we Brexit they may have to
I wasn't being totally serious in my question.I'd guess that it would be considered as 200 KM, same as those travelling by bike, or horse, or with a donkey etc
I wasn't being totally serious in my question.
please forgive me colleens and apilgrim if I put an opposing view just for the heck of it.
when I walked from SJPP the first time I walked every footstep,it was important to me,I didn't want to tell people I had walked 750km apart from when I caught a bus or missed out the meseta because it was a bit boring. I am wiser now and don't judge people less I be judged myself. I walk my own Camino and let others do the same,but it must be said that the people who have impressed me the most are those that walk through great pain, blisters,and baggage of all discriptions to reach Santiago,I'm not suggesting we go the whole hog,start wearing barbed wired bra's and whipping our backs as we walk,or walk barefoot or worse still crawl on our knees the whole way,but to my mind its not a place to pick and mix,surly it should be no different to walk through natural enviroments??? or modern urban sprawl.
I'm no Christian but when I walk it is with internal peace and nothing is soulless and frankly ugly or I may as well sit on a beach listen to the lapping waves and contemplate my navel.
Ian
I do not recall any Albergue turning someone away who forwarded their pack. Everyone should walk the Camino in a manner they are comfortable. There is no right or wrong way. It is your Camino.
Ultreya,
Joe
Yes, albergues do tend to refuse pilgrims who don't carry their packs, and in fact there are some hospitaleros who will phone on ahead down the Camino to warn the other albergues of pilgrims travelling with a support vehicle.
I can't imagine making assumptions about people based on whether or not they carried a backpack. Most of us carry more stuff in them than many pilgrims would have owned in previous times. I have had to send my bag ahead due to problems at times with lymphatic circulation following cancer treatment.
Very true.I would imagine that we can't really judge what pilgrims are carrying by the size of their backpacks. The most difficult burdens are perhaps in the hearts and minds.
Please relax, @longwayhome - you're absolutely not the kind of person I meant.Turigrino? Busigrino? Bicigrino? Are we not all pilgrims, and all journeying our own way?
There are in fact some places with a central drop-off albergue. Ask about this when forwarding luggage.I never encountered this, but heard that some albergues wouldn't accept bag transfer. [...]
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