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Hanging hooks

Sansthing

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Camino(s) past & future
French Camino (2009), French Camino (2011), Via de la Plata (2012), Camino Inglês (2014),
I don´t know if this has come up before, but today I was chatting to a 2008 pilgrim when I went to fetch my pilgrim´s passport, and he gave me a tip I thought very useful and wanted to share with you. He said that you should never ever let your bumbag or money belt out of sight, including when showering. He took two small s-shaped metal hooks which he could suspend from the door or other suitable place in the shower so as to be able to hang any valuables on them. He said there are usually no hooks in the showers, so I imagine these might also come in handy for keeping clothes dry too.
Bom Caminho.
Sandra
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF 2006,08,09,11,12(2),13(2),14,16(2),18(2) Aragones 11,12,VDLP 11,13,Lourdes 12,Malaga 16,Port 06
Yes, well, it sounds like a good idea but I would be VERY careful where you hang that hook!
There were people grabbing purses over the bathroom stall doors a few years back, and the owners were caught with their pants down. :lol:
If you hang it over a shower door, someone can reach right over to get your money pouch.
I found it best to take my money pouch into the private shower stall with me, and leave it laying in clear sight with my clothing. It never got more than 2 feet away!

I met 3 people on the Camino who were robbed at the Pamplona aulburgue when some "friendly pilgrims" promised to watch their gear, including backpack and money pouch, while they showered. When they returned, the "friendlies" were gone, along with their cash. For two of them, it was the end of their Camino and they had to return home.

Generally, I don't think there is a lot of theft along the Camino. People, for the most part, are good and are honest. However, one cannot be naive or take chances and expect not to pay a price.
 

Arn

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All good points about watching your stuff.

I am the last person anyone would want to steal from...and never had a problem. That said,and as Annisantiago said...you got hooks...don't hook on a door facing out...use the inside wall or pipe for nozzel. The true thief had already worked out the more simplistic methods to "secure" valuables and have a way to get your stuff. A large zip lock bag with valuables inside in the shower is the way to go.

Buen may the thief rot in...Camino
Arn
 

Sansthing

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All excellent points, thanks :) . I suppose hooks could still be useful for your clothes or towel, though.
Sandra
 

alipilgrim

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You could also take a hook that has a suction cup on the back so you can 'hook' it anywhere within the shower stall. From experience, the shower stalls can get pretty darn wet, if not flooded, and very few have seats or shelves inside. As to why alberques don't put hooks in their showers stalls, I have no idea! Not expensive but how appreciated!
 
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Sansthing said:
All excellent points, thanks :) . I suppose hooks could still be useful for your clothes or towel, though.
Sandra


Yes, but it's just another "thing" that you don't need... and I PROMISE YOU, you will be discarding those "things" all through Spain, as you realize the difference a few ounces makes ::laughing::


Arn, your idea of a ziplock bag in the shower is the best I've heard. Thanks!
 
D

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All weight counts, but a fraction of an ounce for a hook left behind is like cutting off the handle of your toothbrush. Do it if it makes you feel good, but that amount of weight will be lost in sweat in the first hour!
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF 2006,08,09,11,12(2),13(2),14,16(2),18(2) Aragones 11,12,VDLP 11,13,Lourdes 12,Malaga 16,Port 06
MmmmHmmm... that's right... let me be more clear.

It only takes 16 ounces to make a pound! :lol:

I'm not saying cut off your toothbrush. :roll: (unless you want to save space)

I'm simply saying, "Look at each and every item and ask yourself if you really cannot live without it."

If you don't really need it, why take it?

On the other hand, if you really LOVE your hook... and you really feel you NEED it, then gosh, by all means, pack it!
 

Arn

Veteran Member
Speaking to weight...my experience with long distance hiking is one of many, many miles with very little support available. So, when I started to pack for my Camino, I used past experience as a guide. I have a serious back problem, so I thought that a foldable camp seat would be a good idea...Vinotinto said...nope! So I dropped it...I was glad I did.

I am a clean freak...so I took a large...32 oz. shampoo. Big mistake! I also carried many more RX items than I needed. But, I thought I'd be safe with what I had.

On the AT, you cross civilization about every 30 to 50 miles...therefore, you carry all your food for that stretch...I also carried a six pac of Coors light.

On the Camino, I can find 4 oz tubes of shampoo and I can eat like a king everyday...should I choose to, without carrying a lot of food with me. I did carry a sausage and hard cheese for snacks...but not the 2.5 lbs per day I carried on the AT.

My point is this...with the exception of your pack, sleeping gear, rain gear and water containers, clogs and change of clothes...you need only carry a minimum of stuff. An airline ditty bag of tooth paste & brush, deodorant and TP will serve. All else you can get...as needed...in a supermercado along the Way.

Buen KISS Camino,
Arn
 

JohnnieWalker

Nunca se camina solo
Weight weight weight

Arn is giving very good advice. I set a target weight for my pack usually around 7kgs then just work hard at keeping to the target. As has been said before often it isn't what you take but the kind of things you take - search shops for lightweight easy drying underwear and synthetic t shirts to walk in, buy or collect mini versions of deoderant, soap, shampoo, use sock liners so they can be washed and dried overnight rather than trying to wash wool socks all the time....and be prepared to ditch what you find you are not using. For example I walk a lot and I found myself accumulating a bag of little things I might need but the reality was I never used them at all - I use little clips to hang up washing, they work perfectly, if I lose one or both of them I can buy others...then why do I have two spares in my bag? Discard the parts of guide books you only need for preparation but not the journey etc etc. Little does make large.

But it is true that carrying lots of weight doesn't bother some people - I've met pilgrims who produced a couple of hard back novels out of their bags, one who wore dress shoes, socks, shirt and trousers to dinner in the evening. I've met people who would never trust a fuente and routinely carry 4 litrs of water.

But I've also met more pilgrims whose pilgrimage has been blighted by crippling joint pain and/or blisters. Weight, weight weight.

Recently I was travelling back from Santiago when a guy opposite on the plane produced a very slim, lightweight lap top computer and began to type up his journal. I've often thought of taking a palm pilot or something to take route notes so I engaged him in conversation. Of course one of my my first questions was how much he was carrying. "15kgs" he replied. He saw the look of astonishment on my face and continued quickly, "But I made it". As it turned out both of his feet were in thick bandages, he had bought extra sized shoes to cope and had been taking days off just to gather the will to move on. But he said he had learned an important lesson and next time he was going to try and keep the weight down to 12 kgs!

Nowadays with technical clothing and modern packs lightwight walking can be a reality - ask Sillydol how much weight she carries!

Happy packing

John
 

Rebekah Scott

Camino Busybody
Camino(s) past & future
Many, various, and continuing.
We tried with the bathroom door hooks a couple of years ago, sticking them up at every albergue we passed through. The following year most were snapped off or missing entirely, as people had evidently hung way-too-heavy things on them, or we´d positioned them wrong and they bumped against the wall when the door was opened wide.


Oh well. Attempts are made.

Reb
 

Sansthing

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French Camino (2009), French Camino (2011), Via de la Plata (2012), Camino Inglês (2014),
My total pack weight, including snacks and water, will most strictly NOT exceed 7 kilos. The two hooks I am talking about and intend to take weigh 7 grams each :!: I think part of the fun in planning for the Camino is the challenge of weighing everything and deciding how little you really need.
Sandra
 
D

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A few clothes pins. A hanging hook. A daytime "pack." An extra camera chip. A stocking cap. A pair of gloves (highly recommended). Fingernail clippers. An extra shoe lace. They all weigh a little bit, but the convenience of having them at hand may be worth the few ounces they weigh, and the several Euros they will cost to acquire. Pilgrims may suffer discomfort, but they do not have to go all the way to misery! Leave the heavy stuff at home (shampoo, extra boots, the 72-function Swiss Army knife, etc.), and take the little things you will use. Buy only what you forgot or might not have needed, not the stuff you SHOULD have taken. That's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
 

Bridget and Peter

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Home to Reims 2007
Reims to Limoges 2008
Camino Ingles 2009
Limoges to Gernica 2009
Gernica to San Vicente de la Barquera 2010
San Vicente to La Isla 2012
La Isla to Santiago Sept/Oct 2014
What is a stocking cap? Why do you need one?
 

Arn

Veteran Member
What is a stocking cap?

Great to have...light weight and..I am wearing one right now 7 degrees F here.

As I mentioned is a previous thread...30% of your body heat escapes from your head...use when walking in cold weather and sleeping when you feel cold..I love mine.

Falcon make s several good points. keep reading and searching the Forum for good solid info.

Buen I got it down to 1 oz. Camino
Arn
 

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Timo

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falcon269 said:
A few clothes pins. A hanging hook. A daytime "pack." An extra camera chip. A stocking cap. A pair of gloves (highly recommended). Fingernail clippers. An extra shoe lace. They all weigh a little bit, but the convenience of having them at hand may be worth the few ounces they weigh, and the several Euros they will cost to acquire. Pilgrims may suffer discomfort, but they do not have to go all the way to misery! Leave the heavy stuff at home (shampoo, extra boots, the 72-function Swiss Army knife, etc.), and take the little things you will use. Buy only what you forgot or might not have needed, not the stuff you SHOULD have taken. That's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

Hello,
how much is one prepared to suffer for the little comforts of life. Even in the life of a pilgrim. You have to make decicions with every little item.
-T-
 

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