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TAF

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July/Aug 2019
Hi all, can anyone please help me with rucksack size? I will be walking 2 weeks of the Camino Frances in July/August. I am looking at either the Osprey Tempest 30 or the 40 L. Whatever I take needs to fit the carry on cabin regulations so I am concerned the 40L may not meet those specifications. Has anyone taken the Tempest 40L on as hand luggage?
Buen Camino
 

davebugg

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Camino Frances (2017)
Camino Frances (2018)
Camino Ingles (2019)
Fort the 40L model, it will meet standards as a carry on if the backpack is sized for xs/s. It will be over limit if you get a longer frame length over that xs/s size. So it comes down to what size frame you purchase, and the size you purchase is based on the length of your spine.
 

TAF

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Camino(s) past & future
July/Aug 2019
Fort the 40L model, it will meet standards as a carry on if the backpack is sized for xs/s. It will be over limit if you get a longer frame length over that xs/s size. So it comes down to what size frame you purchase, and the size you purchase is based on the length of your spine.
Many thanks, I think the xs/s will probably fit me but I need to go and get measured properly !
 

kazrobbo

Tassie Kaz
Camino(s) past & future
CF(2012)
CP('15)
St Olavs Way Norway('16)
88 Temples Japan('17)
PWC & VF(2019)
Mozarabe & VdlP(2020)
Hi all, can anyone please help me with rucksack size? I will be walking 2 weeks of the Camino Frances in July/August. I am looking at either the Osprey Tempest 30 or the 40 L. Whatever I take needs to fit the carry on cabin regulations so I am concerned the 40L may not meet those specifications. Has anyone taken the Tempest 40L on as hand luggage?
Buen Camino
Go 30lt if possible...it will make you take less & you won't need to worry about cabin luggage restrictions. I've regularly taken a 38lt (largest pack I own) as carry on & never had any problems with international flights. I did however have a problem with an Australian regional flight in that my pack wouldn't fit in the overhead locker. Fortunately I had an empty seat beside me so it sat there instead...I now fly with other airlines to reach my international hub... 😁
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davebugg

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Camino Frances (2017)
Camino Frances (2018)
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Many thanks, I think the xs/s will probably fit me but I need to go and get measured properly !
It is easy enough to do yourself. :) Below is a part of the instructions which I had previously posted.

Measuring for a correct fit involves determining your spine's proper length. That measurement is done by using a tape measure and measuring from the protruding 'knob' on the back of your neck which is at the base of the cervical spine, to the place on your spine that is even with the top of the crest of your hips. That measurement is essential. I am posting a link to help you see how this is done. You can do it by yourself, or have someone help you. Ignore the manufacturer, as this applies to any pack.

 

FamPed

Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
There are many different Pilgrim Routes and Caminos in life.
It is a personal choice, and you have to take consideration to if you for instance will carry medicine, food or maybe a pair of sandals in your bag etc. Or if you want to by some souvenirs after your Camino. If not, you will be fine with 30L. (I carry a 45L backpack, to have enough space for medicine and I have to carry some gluten and lactose free food.)
 

TAF

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
July/Aug 2019
It is easy enough to do yourself. :) Below is a part of the instructions which I had previously posted.

Measuring for a correct fit involves determining your spine's proper length. That measurement is done by using a tape measure and measuring from the protruding 'knob' on the back of your neck which is at the base of the cervical spine, to the place on your spine that is even with the top of the crest of your hips. That measurement is essential. I am posting a link to help you see how this is done. You can do it by yourself, or have someone help you. Ignore the manufacturer, as this applies to any pack.

Thanks for this, very helpful.
 

C clearly

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016). Seville-Astorga (Mar 2017). Mozarabe (Apr-May 2018)
I've regularly taken a 38lt (largest pack I own) as carry on & never had any problems with international flights.
Volume doesn't matter, directly. The essential measurements are the height, width and depth. It you fit with the airline rules, you're fine. If not, you are running some risk.

I carry a 31 L pack with everything I would likely need for any time of year, whether I'm expecting to be away for a week or a month.
 

kazrobbo

Tassie Kaz
Camino(s) past & future
CF(2012)
CP('15)
St Olavs Way Norway('16)
88 Temples Japan('17)
PWC & VF(2019)
Mozarabe & VdlP(2020)
Volume doesn't matter, directly. The essential measurements are the height, width and depth. It you fit with the airline rules, you're fine. If not, you are running some risk.

I carry a 31 L pack with everything I would likely need for any time of year, whether I'm expecting to be away for a week or a month.
My 38lt is of the 'squat' variety, not a top loader & easily fits in the cabin luggage test unit. My 32lt is a top loader & doesn't fit! 😄
My 30lt is my preferred capacity but I use the 38lt for walks like the VF (I'm currently walking across France) where a few days food needs to be carried.
Having a choice of packs is great but we have our favourites... 😇
 
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Roland49

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CF 2019 June/July/August
Definitly 30L!

I'll walk from SJPdP to SdC from End of June to the End of July and bought a 40L pack.
With all my supplies, accessories and clothing packed it is 3/4 - 4/5 filled.
So enough space left for food and water and later some souvenirs.

For a two weeks trip I would go down to 30L!
My none-framed pack will fit into the hand-luggage-container of every european airline.
 
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nidarosa

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Inglés 2009+2017, Francés 2012+2018, Astorga-Santiago repeatedly
OK, I'll post that pic again - this is my Osprey Tempest 30 (one size/WS-WM) packed and ready for a two week camino, and it fits under the Ryanair seat in front of me. Obviously it wasn't stuffed to the gills, I also had my sidebag with food and drink and a jacket, but it is still more than enough. Less is more! Buen camino
 

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Henry B

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2016
I took a (n embarrassingly) large rucksack on my first Camino and have downsized for the next walk.Camino Portuguese in September. By the Primitivo in May 2020 (God willing) I will have pared it down to 28/30l.

Bien Camino
 

dfox

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Camino(s) past & future
CF (4/2017)
CP (5/2019)
Hi all, can anyone please help me with rucksack size? I will be walking 2 weeks of the Camino Frances in July/August. I am looking at either the Osprey Tempest 30 or the 40 L. Whatever I take needs to fit the carry on cabin regulations so I am concerned the 40L may not meet those specifications. Has anyone taken the Tempest 40L on as hand luggage?
Buen Camino
I am a minimalist. I am also a take-it-easy guy when it comes to pilgrimage/vacation.

I take whatever it minimally requires. If the "pack" does not fit in the airplane's overhead compartment, let it be, then send it to the belly of the plane. I will be happily and relaxing in my seat.

While waiting for the pack being spit out, I will sit casually in a bench nearby and studying the behavior of the folks circling around the carousal or mediate. Why in a hurry?! I am on vacation/pilgrimage.

It's just me.

Bon Camino
 

H Richards

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Camino(s) past & future
2017 Francés, Le Puy / Francés (parts), 2018 Norte (Biarritz), Francés, 2019 Portuguese (Lisbon)
I'm going to come out for the other team... Get a 40l bag. 30 is seriously too small!

Everything will be jammed in there so tightly, you won't have room for food or water. If any of your clothes aren't expensive super-light materials, you're going to need the space when you take them off in the sun. Don't forget, a sleeping bag needs to fit in there too, plus a rain jacket and backpack cover. It all takes space.

What does 10 liters of air weigh you... nothing! But try and make your 30 liter bag fit 35 liters of stuff and you'll be cursing it.

You might well find a rather elitist attitude sometimes on these forums, as if needing more than 30l of space makes you a lazy, unplanned slob, and possibly by implication that most despicable of things - a "bad" pilgrim ;-) But I say, take what you need and give it enough space!

Using checked luggage will let you bring hiking poles and a penknife / cutlery too!
 

lt56ny

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Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
Fort the 40L model, it will meet standards as a carry on if the backpack is sized for xs/s. It will be over limit if you get a longer frame length over that xs/s size. So it comes down to what size frame you purchase, and the size you purchase is based on the length of your spine.
Mr. Bugg Man, I have a 45 liter pack from REI and although I never keep it on my back (as I have mentioned before) at the counter when I check in, It fits in the overhead without any problems too. I need the bigger pack because I carry a very small throw pillow because if I sleep on those albergue pillows I would need a chiropractor every morning.
 

MooBro

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
(2016)
It is easy enough to do yourself. :) Below is a part of the instructions which I had previously posted.

Measuring for a correct fit involves determining your spine's proper length. That measurement is done by using a tape measure and measuring from the protruding 'knob' on the back of your neck which is at the base of the cervical spine, to the place on your spine that is even with the top of the crest of your hips. That measurement is essential. I am posting a link to help you see how this is done. You can do it by yourself, or have someone help you. Ignore the manufacturer, as this applies to any pack.

What is the reference point for "top of the hips"? The true hip joint is the the femur head and socket so I'm wondering if they are using the iliac crest or the top of the sacrum or even the S-I joints. Thanks
 

TAF

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Camino(s) past & future
July/Aug 2019
OK, I'll post that pic again - this is my Osprey Tempest 30 (one size/WS-WM) packed and ready for a two week camino, and it fits under the Ryanair seat in front of me. Obviously it wasn't stuffed to the gills, I also had my sidebag with food and drink and a jacket, but it is still more than enough. Less is more! Buen camino
Thanks, I have in fact purchased this same pack.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Ponferrada - Santiago (2013)
Porto to Santiago (2015)
Lugo to Finisterre (2017)
Porto Coastal (2019)
Hi all, can anyone please help me with rucksack size? I will be walking 2 weeks of the Camino Frances in July/August. I am looking at either the Osprey Tempest 30 or the 40 L. Whatever I take needs to fit the carry on cabin regulations so I am concerned the 40L may not meet those specifications. Has anyone taken the Tempest 40L on as hand luggage?
Buen Camino
It's an individual choice, whatever you carry gets transferred to your feet. My motto is, reduce, reduce, reduce,
Don't travel like this poor Pilgrim !
 

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Casino Portugues (parts) 2015: CF 2016; Le Puy thru Moissac 2017.
I have completed 2 Caminos with a Farpoint 40. This model has straps and belt folding into a zipped panel and top and side panels so it looks like a soft suitcase when not on the trail. It is sized as a Euromax so it should be a carryon pretty much anywhere. At Camino loads (I start at 15 lbs) the straps, belt and back panel are perfectly adequate and I have a bit of extra room to haul some souvenirs home. The year before these two Caminos I did my first using an Osprey Exos which does not conform with carryon specs. I checked it on one of my four segments home and a cord was damaged and some of my items were stolen. We aren’t backpacking on the Caminos and we don’t necessarily the most perfect of backpacks.
 

davebugg

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2017)
Camino Frances (2018)
Camino Ingles (2019)
What is the reference point for "top of the hips"? The true hip joint is the the femur head and socket so I'm wondering if they are using the iliac crest or the top of the sacrum or even the S-I joints. Thanks
Not talking about the hip joint :). Maybe this illustration will help
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davebugg

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2017)
Camino Frances (2018)
Camino Ingles (2019)
Mr. Bugg Man, I have a 45 liter pack from REI and although I never keep it on my back (as I have mentioned before) at the counter when I check in, It fits in the overhead without any problems too. I need the bigger pack because I carry a very small throw pillow because if I sleep on those albergue pillows I would need a chiropractor every morning.
Yours is a perfect example of why the stated CAPACITY of a backpack doesn't matter when talking about airline size restrictions. My Gossamer Gear Mariposa can, with its extension collar, have a 60 liter capacity, but it meets those airline restrictions for carry on baggage nicely. :)

Don't ya just love being able to take it on board with you? :)
 

davebugg

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2017)
Camino Frances (2018)
Camino Ingles (2019)
I am a minimalist. I am also a take-it-easy guy when it comes to pilgrimage/vacation.

I take whatever it minimally requires. If the "pack" does not fit in the airplane's overhead compartment, let it be, then send it to the belly of the plane. I will be happily and relaxing in my seat.

While waiting for the pack being spit out, I will sit casually in a bench nearby and studying the behavior of the folks circling around the carousal or mediate. Why in a hurry?! I am on vacation/pilgrimage.

It's just me.

Bon Camino
:) It isn't just an issue of being quick on and off the plane and bypassing baggage claim. Backpacks can and do get lost or stolen.

I have related before how I flew into a city for the next day's start on a month long thru hike in the Rockies. Because of all the backpacking I do, my gear is ultralight and lightweight and while expensive, is used far more in one year, than most weekend backpackers would use theirs over a ten year period of time.

So here I am less than 24 hours before a 4 week backpacking trip with my gear missing. All of my gear plus the first 10 days supply of freeze dried food. As the minutes go by while watching and waiting for my backpack to appear on the luggage carousel, that sinking feeling and anxiety level just kept rising.

Finally, dealing with the fact that it wasn't showing up, I went to the baggage claim office, filled out the paper work, and headed out to my hotel room. But while I should have been able to relax and decompress from the trip, I had to scramble to replace every single item of gear and food.

Because much of my gear is manufactured by cottage gear makers, and requires online purchases, I had to head to the local REI and do the best I could to substitute what I had with something else to make do.

Stove, mattress, tent, sleeping quilt, poncho, clothing, water storage and filtration, cooking mug, and on and on. Then having to pick through the limited selections of freeze dried food to make up my meal inventory.
for 10 days. Fortunately, I was wearing my trail runners and one pair of the socks I use so at least I didn't have to replace those. And the REI didn't even carry what I wore, anyway.

What REI didn't have, I finally found at two other outdoor stores.

So, no, it isn't just an issue of needing to be more relaxed or meditative; it is a matter of security and actually being assured that you will have your stuff when you arrive.

BTW, it ended up that the airlines believed my gear had been stolen by someone working at the departure airport as there was no record of my backpacked having been scanned upon arrival.

Oh, and despite providing proof of each item and its value, I was reimbursed only 25% of its actual value.
 

Albertagirl

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015); Ch. d'Arles: Oloron Ste Marie to Aragones; Frances (2016); V.d.l.P.; Sanabres (2017)
So, no, it isn't just an issue of needing to be more relaxed or meditative; it is a matter of security and actually being assured that you will have your stuff when you arrive.
Having had a similar experience on a trip to New Zealand some years ago, which included tramping a couple of trails, I will try to never again check any bags when flying to begin a major adventure. Their arrival is always uncertain. I prefer to carry a smaller pack and buy a knife, and anything else that is rejected for carry-on, after my arrival.
 

lt56ny

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
Yours is a perfect example of why the stated CAPACITY of a backpack doesn't matter when talking about airline size restrictions. My Gossamer Gear Mariposa can, with its extension collar, have a 60 liter capacity, but it meets those airline restrictions for carry on baggage nicely. :)

Don't ya just love being able to take it on board with you? :)
I don't know how anyone could ever check their backpack. The thought of arriving at our destination and my pack is in Dakar, Senegal is a nightmare I would not want to wake uo to. I think my pack fits more easily and with less room then most of the carry on luggage that is stored next to it.
 

lt56ny

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
I am a minimalist. I am also a take-it-easy guy when it comes to pilgrimage/vacation.

I take whatever it minimally requires. If the "pack" does not fit in the airplane's overhead compartment, let it be, then send it to the belly of the plane. I will be happily and relaxing in my seat.

While waiting for the pack being spit out, I will sit casually in a bench nearby and studying the behavior of the folks circling around the carousal or mediate. Why in a hurry?! I am on vacation/pilgrimage.

It's just me.

Bon Camino
When the airline loses your luggage or some of the straps on your pack are torn or ripped off, or any number of other things that can happen because airline baggage handlers and airlines couldn't give two sh***ts about you or your backpack you will wish you carried your pack on the plane. Or better yet when your pack doesn't even get into the belly of the plane because it fell somewhere behind something or some airline employee likes your gear. It will be lots of fun running around trying to replace or your stuff. You know what, after flying all day and all night standing in front on an airport carousel for another hour or so waiting for my pack is not my idea of a vacation, pilgrimage or a life 9or oh boy, when I waited for my poles in the Barcelona baggage claim for over 2 hours once. That was an absolute blast!!!!!!) Especially because those baggage areas are always so clean, fresh smelling, quiet and aesthetically pleasing to my eye. I know it is tough to take off your pack and put it in the overhead. That extra 8 seconds that it takes to stick it in the overhead I know isn't anywhere near as relaxing in the baggage pickup but it makes me alot happier and relaxed as I snuggle into my beautiful, comfortable, wide and with an abundance of legroom coach seats that airlines treat us to these days. But as you say, that's just me.
 

gerip

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF, Lourdes to Burgos, Oct 2018
CF, Burgos to Santiago, May 2019
Primitivo, Oct 2019
Hi all, can anyone please help me with rucksack size? I will be walking 2 weeks of the Camino Frances in July/August. I am looking at either the Osprey Tempest 30 or the 40 L. Whatever I take needs to fit the carry on cabin regulations so I am concerned the 40L may not meet those specifications. Has anyone taken the Tempest 40L on as hand luggage?
Buen Camino
I've downsized from a 38L Deuter to a 30L Osprey for my second leg, beginning 1st May for a month. And I'm carrying a sleeping bag and coffee/breakfast supplies.
 

H Richards

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2017 Francés, Le Puy / Francés (parts), 2018 Norte (Biarritz), Francés, 2019 Portuguese (Lisbon)
From brand to brand I've noticed size really seems to vary. A 38l Osprey had way more space than a 35-45l Lowe, it seemed to me. I'm not sure if they have different ways of measuring - ie. including or excluding pockets etc.
 

nidarosa

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Inglés 2009+2017, Francés 2012+2018, Astorga-Santiago repeatedly
I have noticed the same thing - my Osprey Escapist 25L actually holds more stuff than a Lowe Alpine 30l and another Osprey 35L when I compared panel loaders. Apparently there is no set standard for how to measure pack volume so it varies a lot.
 

davebugg

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2017)
Camino Frances (2018)
Camino Ingles (2019)
I have noticed the same thing - my Osprey Escapist 25L actually holds more stuff than a Lowe Alpine 30l and another Osprey 35L when I compared panel loaders. Apparently there is no set standard for how to measure pack volume so it varies a lot.
Maybe I can help with the answer to this; and no, it is not one's imagination of main bag capacity variances, it is actually a real thing.

The reason for this primarily is that manufacturers are no longer giving capacity and volume measurements based on the main bag. They include all storage areas like the main outside pocket, side pockets, hipbelt pockets, lid pockets, etc. So if one only considers how big the main bag is, it may very well be different in size from manufacturer to manufacturer, or even between models from the same manufacturer.

The rationale for doing this is that most backpackers have taken to wanting larger pocket areas to help organize things based on levels of access. For instance: when rain might be a possibility, I put my poncho and rain kilt in a side pocket of my backpack so that I can easily reach them without having to remove my pack and dig into the main compartment. That way I can grab my poncho and slip it on. And this is especially useful when the day is filled with rain showers that come and go. :)

Water bottles, maps (or guidebooks), wet clothing, snacks, tools and sundries, toilet paper; the list of things that are carried in the accessory pocket can be quite long.

I personally love having the manufacturers waking up to the realities of HOW a backpack is used, rather than just how much is carried.
 

Victoria Carolina

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances
(2019)
Have you tried on both the Tempest 40L and the Tempest 30L? That will help you narrow it down quickly. They fit very differently. The 40L has an internal frame which makes the back stiff. This transfers the weight very effectively down to your hips and off your shoulders. It also has a wider hip belt which is much more comfortable than the narrow belt on the 30L. I found the 40L to be MUCH more comfortable to carry with a full load, versus the 30L.

The con to the 40L, though, is that the firm back won't let you compress the bag to squeeze into some of the smaller carry on requirements. I fly basic economy and budget airlines a lot so that's a significant drawback for me. The smallest that it will compress to is 21", whereas the 30L will compress down to 19" which fits into more carry on requirements. You could probably get away with carrying on the 40L nine times out of ten, but that tenth gate agent will make you check it.

I would recommend going to REI and getting fitted so you know your torso length. Then buy one of each, load them up with ten pounds or so, and walk around the block. Pay attention to how they feel on your shoulders and how the hip belt feels. Carry the 30L long enough that you start to notice where it's uncomfortable, then immediately switch to the 40L and see if it's not more comfortable. If you are lucky enough to have a small torso and can get the xsmall 40L try that one. It has a smaller internal frame so it doesn't transfer the weight quite as well, but it still has the wider hip belt and is almost as comfortable (for me anyway) as the sm/med 40L. The xsmall 40L has an adjustable back, where the sm/med 40 doesn't.
 
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HikeTall

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Camino(s) past & future
Haven't walked the Camino yet. But I've hiked all over this beautiful planet and hope to walk the Camino in the near future.
I am a big guy (6’4” & 230lbs) and i do alot of travel photography & videography, so my packs tend to be a little larger than the avg backpackers when traveling. But i still like to travel as light as possible & prefer carry on only when traveling abroad. I’ve switched much of my gear to ultralight, & downsized a lot of my photography gear over the years as well.

When it comes to packs, I am an Osprey guy. Nothing against other brands, I just like them. I do have a large Osprey 65L Atmos AG pack, but i use that for expedition/adventure travel to remote locations only.

For the majority of my travels I use much smaller packs. My collection for international carry on travel include the Stratos 50, Stratos 34, Talon 44, Talon 33, & Exos 38. Surprisingly the Stratos 50 is not as tall as the talon 44 or Exos 38, and i tend to grab that one a lot to fit all my clothes & photography gear. But i do love the Talon & Exos cause they are very light, and often switch it up. I have never had a problem using any of them as carry on.

I was tempted to add the Osprey Farpoint 40 (Fairview for women)which is universally accepted as one of the best carry on compatible “travel” packs...great for hotel to hotel travel. But i tend to do a lot of walking & hiking when traveling abroad...and it is not as comfortable for that as a dedicated backpack is. Especially for the Camino. Although i know many have used it for that.

*** I did just hear that Osprey is coming out with a more backpack friendly version of the Farpoint called the Farpoint Trek in the Fall of 2019. It will have a more comfortable suspension system for long treks, but with the same travel pack features of the regular Farpoint like a suitcase style opening etc. So worth a look.
 
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Moorwalker

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
The Saint's Way, Cornwall
Many thanks, I think the xs/s will probably fit me but I need to go and get measured properly !
Osprey have an app that will run in iOs or Android that gives you a pretty good idea what size you need. Free to download herre:_
 

Telboyo

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
I intend to leave the UK the day Before Brexit and walkMarch -April 2019 Camino Frances
Many thanks, I think the xs/s will probably fit me but I need to go and get measured properly !
Do get measured properly, if the pack needs to be longer buy the right size and check your bag if necessary, the hassle of checking your bag will be much less than the pain of walking with a poorly fitted pack. After a few days of walking with a correctly fitted and adjusted pack you will forget it is on your back 5 minutes after you put it on. With a badly fitted pack every step you take will be a pain in the back neck and hips.
 

Geodoc

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (crossed Pyrenees then Sarria to SdC) 2018, Frances & Ingles Summer, 2019.
I don't know how anyone could ever check their backpack. The thought of arriving at our destination and my pack is in Dakar, Senegal is a nightmare I would not want to wake uo to.
Unfortunately, some of us have torso lengths that require packs that are longer than most airlines allow as carry-on :-(

My work around (as I'll be spending more time in Europe than just on the Camino) is to have a 25L PacSafe that I carry all my essentials in (clothes, electronics) while my pack rides in the hold (this time, in a big, blue Ikea bag). If the pack & poles don't make it, I still have the main stuff. The rest is easily and quickly replaced.
 

amocatnerak

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances April 2018, Frances October 2019
My Osprey Stratos 34 doesn’t have one of those outside stretch pockets so I purchased the Tribe One “pack net” which you can affix anywhere without making holes in the fabric. It can also be moved to other packs when needed. I found this to be the solution to the slightly small size of the pack and it allowed me to carry my end-of-day shoes and my rain gear on the outside of the pack while still fitting under the rain cover.

*I have no affiliation with Osprey or Tribe One*
 

Pilger99

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
addicted since 1999 (Aragones, CF), lots of caminos in Spain and Portugal since then
It's no fun to be in Madrid, while your pack is in Dakar, but how often that really happens and what's the problem, if you know that already?
Europe seems to be worse than other places (0,8% loss or late arrival), though 95% of the lost luggage appears still within 48h and will be shipped to the place where you've moved to.
I was not happy the day my pack with dirty clothes was still somethere, but yes they do try to find your stuff. The higher risk is damage or robbery. For most human trecking clothes and sleeping bag is fairly uninteressting, but for us it's essential. The problem I recognise is that I'm hardly able to buy a new comfortable backpack, shoes and trousers of my size.

Take some precautions for your way to Europe so you have your values and a basic set of clothes if you arrive from far away. And put a rubbish bag around the checked backpack, to avoid damage. Much more you can't do.
Leaving home is always risky, though most people die in their own surroundings. It's up to you which peril you choose.
 

RemysMimi

Hooked on the Camino!!
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2018)
Frances or Portuguese (2020)
I used a 30L and it was quite enough for all the necessities. Of course it will depend on what you plan on taking and how well you pack. I was able to get quite a bit of stuff in mine and actually got rid of some stuff that I found I really didn't need once I got on my way.
Buen Camino!
 

RemysMimi

Hooked on the Camino!!
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2018)
Frances or Portuguese (2020)
Many thanks, I think the xs/s will probably fit me but I need to go and get measured properly !
Yes, you will definitely want to get measured. I ordered my first pack off the internet. I always buy things a bit larger because I don't like things tight on me. I went to REI to have it sized and found it was waaayyy too large as I have a small frame with long legs and a shorter torso.
 

HikeTall

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Haven't walked the Camino yet. But I've hiked all over this beautiful planet and hope to walk the Camino in the near future.
Unfortunately, some of us have torso lengths that require packs that are longer than most airlines allow as carry-on :-(

My work around (as I'll be spending more time in Europe than just on the Camino) is to have a 25L PacSafe that I carry all my essentials in (clothes, electronics) while my pack rides in the hold (this time, in a big, blue Ikea bag). If the pack & poles don't make it, I still have the main stuff. The rest is easily and quickly replaced.
You might be able to bring both packs as carry on. The 25L as your personal item & the other as your main carry on. Oh wait...forgot about the trekking poles. Scratch that idea. Lol.
 

Derrybiketours

A journey of 500 miles begins with one step!
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP-SANT-FIN (09/2018)
PORTO-SANT (11/2018)
Caminho Da Fe (01/2019)
*Derry-SANT (09/2019)?
I'm 5' 10" of average build and Osprey 22 litre pack size Medium\Large was more than enough to walk Francés and Portuguese back to back. I had two additional Carabiner that helped carry my liner, bed bug sheet, poncho, travel pillow and two silicone wine glasses and mini magnetic draughts set fitted snuggly inside front pouch. My pack weight was 6kg and had everything I needed for 3 month trip September to November that included week in Finisterre, week in Madrid and week in Toledo. Travel light my friend and your journey will be more rewarding 🙏
 
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Victoria Carolina

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances
(2019)
My Osprey Stratos 34 doesn’t have one of those outside stretch pockets so I purchased the Tribe One “pack net” which you can affix anywhere without making holes in the fabric. It can also be moved to other packs when needed. I found this to be the solution to the slightly small size of the pack and it allowed me to carry my end-of-day shoes and my rain gear on the outside of the pack while still fitting under the rain cover.

*I have no affiliation with Osprey or Tribe One*
Well for goodness sake! Is this what you're talking about? This looks like the perfect add on for a small pack. Thank you!
 

Geodoc

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (crossed Pyrenees then Sarria to SdC) 2018, Frances & Ingles Summer, 2019.
You might be able to bring both packs as carry on. The 25L as your personal item & the other as your main carry on. Oh wait...forgot about the trekking poles. Scratch that idea. Lol.
Actually, since my pack is relatively long anyhow, the poles go in my pack, so it works out for me (so I didn't have to scratch that idea).
 

Geodoc

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (crossed Pyrenees then Sarria to SdC) 2018, Frances & Ingles Summer, 2019.
You might be able to bring both packs as carry on. The 25L as your personal item & the other as your main carry on. Oh wait...forgot about the trekking poles. Scratch that idea. Lol.
The reason for the 25 L pack is because my normal pack is too big / too long to be allowed on as carry on.
 

lt56ny

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
Unfortunately, some of us have torso lengths that require packs that are longer than most airlines allow as carry-on :-(

My work around (as I'll be spending more time in Europe than just on the Camino) is to have a 25L PacSafe that I carry all my essentials in (clothes, electronics) while my pack rides in the hold (this time, in a big, blue Ikea bag). If the pack & poles don't make it, I still have the main stuff. The rest is easily and quickly replaced.
Just for informational purposes only, how tall are you???????
 

Geodoc

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (crossed Pyrenees then Sarria to SdC) 2018, Frances & Ingles Summer, 2019.
Only 5'9", but with a very long torso (short legs, huge feet - and wingspan to rival a condor). According to all the experts, I should have been about 6'2 (and that's what my armspan is). C'est la vie.

For the record, my pack is only a couple of inches too long (36L Osprey), but flying budget airlines (e.g., Norwegian and Ryan Air), ain't no way, no how they're gonna let that pack in the cabin.
 

HikeTall

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Haven't walked the Camino yet. But I've hiked all over this beautiful planet and hope to walk the Camino in the near future.
Only 5'9", but with a very long torso (short legs, huge feet - and wingspan to rival a condor). According to all the experts, I should have been about 6'2 (and that's what my armspan is). C'est la vie.

For the record, my pack is only a couple of inches too long (36L Osprey), but flying budget airlines (e.g., Norwegian and Ryan Air), ain't no way, no how they're gonna let that pack in the cabin.
Which 36 liter pack? The kestrel? Or the Stratos? My 50L Osprey stratos is actually shorter than my 38L exos! And i never had an issue bringing it as carry on. Depends on the pack sometimes
 

amocatnerak

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances April 2018, Frances October 2019
Well for goodness sake! Is this what you're talking about? This looks like the perfect add on for a small pack. Thank you!
Yes, that is it. Worked great for me!
 

HikeTall

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Haven't walked the Camino yet. But I've hiked all over this beautiful planet and hope to walk the Camino in the near future.
I have completed 2 Caminos with a Farpoint 40. This model has straps and belt folding into a zipped panel and top and side panels so it looks like a soft suitcase when not on the trail. It is sized as a Euromax so it should be a carryon pretty much anywhere. At Camino loads (I start at 15 lbs) the straps, belt and back panel are perfectly adequate and I have a bit of extra room to haul some souvenirs home. The year before these two Caminos I did my first using an Osprey Exos which does not conform with carryon specs. I checked it on one of my four segments home and a cord was damaged and some of my items were stolen. We aren’t backpacking on the Caminos and we don’t necessarily the most perfect of backpacks.
*** I did just hear that Osprey is coming out with a more backpack friendly version of the Farpoint called the Farpoint Trek in the Fall of 2019. It will have a more comfortable suspension system for long treks, but with the same travel pack features of the regular Farpoint like a suitcase style opening etc. So worth a look.
 

JeepsNRoses

Camino Dreamer
Camino(s) past & future
CF (2017) May 15th SJPdP - Pamplona
CF (2019) Dec 18th Sarria - Santiago
CF (2020) May 17th SJPdP
@davebugg wondering on what European airlines you’ve been able to carry on your Mariposa? I have been checking KIWI for AA and BA flights, Houston to Madrid. Their international and domestic limits are the same & easily support the size of both the Gorilla and Mariposa. Since I am also planning to fly RT Madrid to Santiago, I don’t yet know which airline or what their size limits are. Trying to take advantage of the current GG sale.
 

Moorwalker

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
The Saint's Way, Cornwall
The problem usually arises on some of the budget airlines like Easyjet and Ryanair, because they often have smaller and lighter limits for bags.
 

davebugg

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2017)
Camino Frances (2018)
Camino Ingles (2019)
@davebugg wondering on what European airlines you’ve been able to carry on your Mariposa? I have been checking KIWI for AA and BA flights, Houston to Madrid. Their international and domestic limits are the same & easily support the size of both the Gorilla and Mariposa. Since I am also planning to fly RT Madrid to Santiago, I don’t yet know which airline or what their size limits are. Trying to take advantage of the current GG sale.
Iberia, Easyjet, Hopi, Ryanair, and Vueling are the domestic European airlines that I've carried on the Mariposa. Condor, Lufthansa, Icelandair, Air France, and Norwegian Airlines are the International carriers I've carried on the Mariposa.
 

Lurch

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
looking at 2018-2019
Unfortunately, some of us have torso lengths that require packs that are longer than most airlines allow as carry-on :-(

My work around (as I'll be spending more time in Europe than just on the Camino) is to have a 25L PacSafe that I carry all my essentials in (clothes, electronics) while my pack rides in the hold (this time, in a big, blue Ikea bag). If the pack & poles don't make it, I still have the main stuff. The rest is easily and quickly replaced.
I second the IKEA bag. Inside was my Bergman’s of Norway 46l pack, a pocket knife and and a pair of poles. Next year the pack will be a bit smaller, but still use the same IKEA bag. Also good for covering my pack to keep the chinches out.
 

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