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Nearly every year since 2006, often walking more than one route.
To me, this was horrible!
Love certainly didn't win as a result of their irresponsible actions!

Someone with a can of red spray paint tagged waymarks all the way from Sarria to Santiago.
It was so sad.
Here is one example of their work... others on my blog.
https://caminosantiago2.blogspot.com/2019/09/to-person-who-wanted-to-inspire-love.html

If I were their parent, I'd be ashamed.
If I were their parent, they'd be walking around with a red spray painted face and I'd probably be in jail!

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Pilgy

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C. Francés April 06, C. Fisterre May 06, C. Frances Oct 17, C. Portuguese Oct 18, C. Inglese Nov 18
But let's not give this person the very publicity they crave.....
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
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Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
Even on Via de Bayona which is much less walked route than CF or even Sarria-SdC stretch I constantly saw "XY was here" all along the route on the markers.
I'm glad I missed those.
And there were none on the Invierno either.
Greater numbers inevitably bring a few people who...well, you know...
 

KinkyOne

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Camino(s) past & future
I'am not perfect, but I'm always myself!!!
I'm glad I missed those.
And there were none on the Invierno either.
Greater numbers inevitably bring a few people who...well, you know...
Well, it was in 2016 and the name was Ewan. Maybe they repaint or scrub it off???
I remember it was even on the walls of bus stands in villages...
He used the marker not the paint though which doesn't change a thing. And I love good murals or graffiti!!!
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
Well, it was in 2016 and the name was Ewan. Maybe they repaint or scrub it off???
Must have, or maybe I just didn't notice - although that's exactly the sort of thing that would jump out and annoy me day after day. None of the yellow and blue posts were besmirched by graffiti, nor the waymarkers below the Tunel San Adrian.

Ha,ha...it would not be so hard for any amigos living around there to go back through the Albergue registers to find out who Ewan is, and offer them some lessons in communal responsibility.
 

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K Turner

One step at a time
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14 August 2019 (SJPdP 16 August)
I noticed those yesterday on the way to Pedrouzo (getting to Santiago today). I saw one a few days ago with rather foul language.
 

Rich1

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Camino Frances (May 2015)
Camino Frances (2016-2018)
A complicated Camino from Madrid (Aug/Sep 18)
The latest is “You are love(d)” everywhere.
There seems to be a new rule on the Camino - every vertical surface must be written upon :(
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2017, 2018, 2019, Ingles 2018, Madrid (2019) Portuges (2020)
It’s a sad, generational thing. Somehow this person feels no shame about spray painting a selfish expression on a public guidepost. It’s all about me, in this generation
“When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint.”

Hesiod. 8th Century BC.

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

Socrates. 5th Century BC.

It’s been a problem for a while!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Nearly every year since 2006, often walking more than one route.
But let's not give this person the very publicity they crave.....
Too late.
Thousands of pilgrims were forced to see their work in 2018.
“When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint.”

Hesiod. 8th Century BC.

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

Socrates. 5th Century BC.

It’s been a problem for a while!
lol! I actually think of that Socrates quote often.
 

lt56ny

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
My question was a little different. It’s likely that the culprit was a walker, but why would their actions debar them from being a pilgrim?

Is a pilgrim something special?
That is one of the big problems with the Camino today. A pilgrimage is something that should be undertaken with some amount of thought, reflection and reverence for what was and is, and anticipation for what may be. I am not saying people should not enjoy themselves and hope to have, which most seem to, a positive and in some degree a life changing experience. With all due respect, the people involved in this vandalism are without a shadow of a doubt anything but a pilgrim. Accepting of peoples faults, personality flaws etc. is something that I have learned when I walk caminos. People who are completely rude, self serving and accepting of everything and everyone no matter how reprehensible, selfish or rude their behavior helps to foster this type of vandalism. "Hey man everyone is cool and let's just accept everyone because we are "inclusive and non judgmental", makes no sense to me. Where does this loving acceptance end and begin to turn into the acquiesce of people and actions that threaten our freedoms and actions? There are universal truths in this world. A very simple one is actions like this disqualify these people from being identified in any manner, shape or form as pilgrims.
 

dgassa

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Camino Frances April 2015
Camino Frances April 2017
Camino Frances April 2018
These tags were there 2 years ago and it only get worse. It’s not just young people. I saw a 40’ish old man with a magic marker writing on a road sign. I think what I said to him was, “what an idiot” and asked him where he lived so I could come and write my name on his house. He just walked off and I’m sure he tagged more signs for the remainder of his camino.
 

t2andreo

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C/M: 2016
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C/I: 2018
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One way to stop it is to catch the vandals, then sentence them to 30 days community service removing graffiti... for each offense. If you tag multiple locations, to my view, those are multiple instances. Each object tagged is a separate offense.

That would both clean these valued structures and transmit a strong deterrent message.
 
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JCLima

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
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My intention was not to start an argument about who would or wouldn't do this.
My intention was to express my disgust with anyone who would do this.
Why do we always have to argue with each other?
A friend of mine got on this forum for the first time this week and told me he felt horrible that people were so ugly to each other and got "their panties in a twist" over nothing.

Can't we each just have our opinions and move on?
I know I"m just as guilty as anyone - can't we do better?
Trying to lecture me is not going to help anything.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Nearly every year since 2006, often walking more than one route.
Trying to lecture me is not going to help anything.
I was not trying to lecture you in particular.
I'm just sad because people seem to want to fight over nothing.
It was my attempt to try to make peace, which I guess I'm not good at.
I deleted my post since it apparently offended you also.
Buen Camino.
 

Holly West

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances
To me, this was horrible!
Love certainly didn't win as a result of their irresponsible actions!

Someone with a can of red spray paint tagged waymarks all the way from Sarria to Santiago.
It was so sad.
Here is one example of their work... others on my blog.
https://caminosantiago2.blogspot.com/2019/09/to-person-who-wanted-to-inspire-love.html

If I were their parent, I'd be ashamed.
If I were their parent, they'd be walking around with a red spray painted face and I'd probably be in jail!

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I agree. I don't like the way some people also put their name on these markers with their idea of catchy little quotes or just signing their name. It is vandalism. You see some people's name all along the way as you are walking. It is very unfortunate.
 

David Tallan

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Frances (1989 and 2016), Portugues - from Porto (2018)
Certainly did not mean to say all of this generation are like that, only that it wouldn’t cross the mind of an older generation to do this.
I don't think graffiti is new to this generation. I know I've seen graffiti from Roman soldiers and I'm pretty sure it goes back much further than that. Certainly, graffiti with the written word only goes as far back as written language, but if you pass by Atapuerca on the Camino Frances, you won't be far from where some much earlier vandals tagged up a cave. :)

Not to say that the type of graffiti shown above is acceptable. Just that it isn't new to the younger generations.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Nearly every year since 2006, often walking more than one route.
I don't think graffiti is new to this generation. I know I've seen graffiti from Roman soldiers and I'm pretty sure it goes back much further than that. Certainly, graffiti with the written word only goes as far back as written language, but if you pass by Atapuerca on the Camino Frances, you won't be far from where some much earlier vandals tagged up a cave. :)

Not to say that the type of graffiti shown above is acceptable. Just that it isn't new to the younger generations.
Yup. I saw lots of graffiti in Pompei!
This graffiti just bothered me more, for some reason.
 
Camino(s) past & future
(2017)
I don't think graffiti is new to this generation. I know I've seen graffiti from Roman soldiers and I'm pretty sure it goes back much further than that. Certainly, graffiti with the written word only goes as far back as written language, but if you pass by Atapuerca on the Camino Frances, you won't be far from where some much earlier vandals tagged up a cave. :)

Not to say that the type of graffiti shown above is acceptable. Just that it isn't new to the younger generations.
I submit to your wisdom. Let’s hope it improves
 

Tincatinker

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Camino(s) past & future
Lots ;0)
Bring back public flogging ! :(
Flogging? Flogging's to good to them. Lets have Hanging, Drawing and Quartering. Heads displayed on Mojones. Nah; lets go Biblical: cursed until the 7th generation - that'll teach 'em... My offspring will then experience the joy of watching the wretched curs flinch at the mere sight of a sharpie.

I kind of like @dgassa's approach. See post 21 but I don't expect any more result than he did from it. Whereas my reasonable proposition would guarantee an outcome :eek: o_O;) (does anyone know what these funny faces are supposed to mean?)
 

RJM

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Camino(s) past & future
A few times
How sad, and a pitiful childish attempt at trying to gain attention.
No flogging, but certainly a couple of weeks of Camino path cleanup would be in order, or perhaps a very hefty fine, though I doubt the criminal who did that has the proverbial pot to piss in.
 

Kanga

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Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese, Primitivo
Shame does not seem to motivate people to change behaviour. Or at least that is my reading of the latest research.

What are these people who paint/graffiti trying to achieve? We might get somewhere if we knew, and could find another, more acceptable, gratification.

I agree that if someone is caught, getting them to clean off graffiti is a good punishment, but perhaps also (under supervision) maintaining or renewing the necessary signs? Like re-painting the yellow arrows where they have faded or become invisible. Or participating in public beautification works. That way they do get to make a "mark", but an acceptable one.
 

Karl Oz

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Aragones
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Piamonte
Elizabethpfad
Shame does not seem to motivate people to change behaviour. Or at least that is my reading of the latest research.

What are these people who paint/graffiti trying to achieve? We might get somewhere if we knew, and could find another, more acceptable, gratification.

I agree that if someone is caught, getting them to clean off graffiti is a good punishment, but perhaps also (under supervision) maintaining or renewing the necessary signs? Like re-painting the yellow arrows where they have faded or become invisible. Or participating in public beautification works. That way they do get to make a "mark", but an acceptable one.
Nothing rebellious in that though, is there!
 

RJM

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Camino(s) past & future
A few times
Saw this masterpiece of lame narcissism on my last Camino Frances. Without a doubt that scribble is not worth reading, and I haven't read it. I wonder what the child that did it hoped to accomplish? Was it planned? No doubt the average pilgrim does not carry permanent markers or paint with them in their pack.

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Pierre Julian

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Frances, Ingles, VdP, San Salvador, Aragonese, sections of Northern, Portuguese, Mozarabic.
It was so edifying when I just walked the Norte, every sign post and marker was in pristine condition ... until I rejoined the Frances at Lavacolla, and the first maker (about one minute after the last perfect Norte marker) was thoroughly vandalised - no more plates showing distances. From then on - the rubbish and tissue trail, graffiti, hoards of bike riders rushing past, people super-anxious about their next bed.

I do hope the other Camino's don't succumb to the worst aspects of the Frances as their numbers grow.

I try and pick up a few pieces of rubbish each day when I walk to make a difference, but don't know how to deal with the graffiti, as I've only witnessed it happening once (I intervened, and he didn't do it again - I know that because we became good friends)!
 

RJM

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Camino(s) past & future
A few times
It was so edifying when I just walked the Norte, every sign post and marker was in pristine condition ... until I rejoined the Frances at Lavacolla, and the first maker (about one minute after the last perfect Norte marker) was thoroughly vandalised - no more plates showing distances. From then on - the rubbish and tissue trail, graffiti, hoards of bike riders rushing past, people super-anxious about their next bed.

I do hope the other Camino's don't succumb to the worst aspects of the Frances as their numbers grow.

I try and pick up a few pieces of rubbish each day when I walk to make a difference, but don't know how to deal with the graffiti, as I've only witnessed it happening once (I intervened, and he didn't do it again - I know that because we became good friends)!
Good job. Way to be a proper caretaker of the path.
The only thing I am curious about is why? Why did your now friend want to graffiti damage someone else's property along the Camino? What is the motive? What is the reason for such a selfish act?
 

Isca-camigo

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Various ones.
I have seen graffiti from a couple who were in their mid 50's in 2010. We had just walked up to the top of hill outside Castrojeriz, on the underside of the wooden shelter the man scrawled their names with a black marker pen. To my shame I didn't say anything, but I was only 42 at the time, now I am in my 50's and full of righteous indignation they would get definitely get a verbal volley of me.

So as a reply to it's the 'me generation' it's probably is, but the preceding generations haven't really set a good example have they.
 

Pierre Julian

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Frances, Ingles, VdP, San Salvador, Aragonese, sections of Northern, Portuguese, Mozarabic.
Good job. Way to be a proper caretaker of the path.
The only thing I am curious about is why? Why did your now friend want to graffiti damage someone else's property along the Camino? What is the motive? What is the reason for such a selfish act?
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Thanks RJM, I'm not entirely sure. I think he did it spontaneously without any thought. There wasn't any malice or intention to do harm - just thoughtless about the consequences. Maybe when people are in a new country with crowds of other happy / positive people and faced with masses of graffiti they maybe think it is acceptable / normal? Probably something deeply human about wanting to leave some kind of a permanent and personal mark behind on such a unique adventure? Solidarity with all the others leaving messages? Trying to be clever and outdoing all the other messages? I'm just guessing.

I believe that one of the best ways to deter graffiti and vandalism is to remove it as quickly as possible, people are less likely to do it if it no one else will see it.

Is there a way that we on the Camino forum can come up with ideas to tackle it? Carry white paint or chemical solution to erase? Big clear signs at the start of each major stage with some basic etiquette for walking the Camino? Encouraging people to freely add their signatures to a document in albergues saying they will promote the "eco-system" of the Camino? Providing designated graffiti boards at frequent intervals that can be photographed by locals and added to a website, so that their mark is recorded for posterity? Volunteer camino clean up groups of pilgrims?
 

Pierre Julian

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Btw, has anyone been to the Jesus Albergue in Villar de Mazarife recently?

In 2015 I stayed there in December. I was the only one, it was dark, freezing, and felt unfriendly, but most of all I remember every wall and bed was covered in graffiti, it added to my sense of desolation that evening. I wonder if it is still the same? I suppose it was a chance for "controlled graffiti" - as long as the owners didn't mind, but it was really ugly (imo).
 

zrexer

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2014, 15,16 & 19 Camino Frances
2017 Camino Portuguese
2018 Camino Primitivo
The amount of graffiti from Camino walkers/hikers ( I won't call people who deface the Camino 'pilgrims') is highly disappointing.
Anyone who feels the need to deface official markers or anything else for that matter is completely clueless regarding the reason to walk a Camino.
Foot prints are acceptable to leave behind. Anything else (including your garbage) is not.
 
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David Tallan

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Btw, has anyone been to the Jesus Albergue in Villar de Mazarife recently?

In 2015 I stayed there in December. I was the only one, it was dark, freezing, and felt unfriendly, but most of all I remember every wall and bed was covered in graffiti, it added to my sense of desolation that evening. I wonder if it is still the same? I suppose it was a chance for "controlled graffiti" - as long as the owners didn't mind, but it was really ugly (imo).
I will admit to adding my graffiti to a small corner of Bar Elvis in Reliegos in 2016. I know the owner didn't mind, though. He handed me the marker.
 

omar504

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As an adjunct to this thread my one and only time on the cf I was horrified at the cretins using their skiing poles to jab the Camino tiles on the distance pilIars. I watched someone do thus and asked why he did it. His reply was because he saw some one else do it...a case of monkey see monkey do
 
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Frances 2017, 2018, 2019, Ingles 2018, Madrid (2019) Portuges (2020)
As an adjunct to this thread my one and only time on the cf I was horrified at the cretins using their skiing poles to jab the Camino tiles on the distance pilIars. I watched someone do thus and asked why he did it. His reply was because he saw some one else do it...a case of monkey see monkey do
I was always pleased when I found one where the distance marker and/or the ceramic arrow plaque hadn’t been prised out.
 

Pierre Julian

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I was always pleased when I found one where the distance marker and/or the ceramic arrow plaque hadn’t been prised out.
On the Norte, they're all near pristine (at least from Aviles to Santiago) I was very impressed.
 
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Frances 2017, 2018, 2019, Ingles 2018, Madrid (2019) Portuges (2020)
On the Norte, they're all near pristine (at least from Aviles to Santiago) I was very impressed.
They vary on the Frances - although regularly replaced - as one nears Santiago the damage is more common.

It’s ironic as every second shop in Santiago sells a ceramic ‘yellow arrow’ plaque for next to nothing.

As someone who, on a bad day, would happily shoot people who cannot park inside the designated parking space my views on peripatetic vandals are best not posted.
 

Rhun Leeding

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Leon to Santiago - Sept/Oct 2015
Camino Ingles & Santiago to Finisterre & Muxia Sept/Oct 2016
This type of vandalism is hugely frustrating, and I know it kind of grinds my gears.

In 2015 when I walked from Leon, every few miles I saw the tag of Leonie with a heart shape next to the name. Dear Leonie needed a slap and a good talking to. Hopefully, whoever caused this vandalism comes to realise the consequences of their actions.
 

omar504

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They vary on the Frances - although regularly replaced - as one nears Santiago the damage is more common.

It’s ironic as every second shop in Santiago sells a ceramic ‘yellow arrow’ plaque for next to nothing.

As someone who, on a bad day, would happily shoot people who cannot park inside the designated parking space my views on peripatetic vandals are best not posted.
Shouldn't that be peripathetic vandals??!!!
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
Hopefully, whoever caused this vandalism comes to reali
Obviously not. And there are many people doing this, perhaps not even seeing it as vandalism - but as part of the 'camino experience:' camino families, lots of partying, and tagging...?
Who knows? And go figure....
 
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Packinglight

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Camino(s) past & future
(2014)
July-August 2019, Pamplona-Santiago
Huh. Graffiti doesn’t bother me. maybe because I have mostly lived in cities and there is always graffiti somewhere, routinely scrubbed off and frequently reapplied.
I don’t like pointless tagging, (although I live in a city where there are certain areas where it’s legal and there sometimes is gorgeous art as graffiti) and I saw some graffiti on the CF this summer with some pretty offensive messages, but idiots are everywhere so I didn’t get too fussed about the particular Camino idiots.

What did bother me, however, is that certain Camino idiots did prise off the distance signs from Sarria to Santiago. That is vandalism and really tasteless. Someone having written “Buen Camino” in a pedestrian underpass doesn’t get me bothered though.
 

Bob P

Member
Camino(s) past & future
First timer, leaving April 3rd from SJPDP
In March 2018, I did SJPP to Sarria before my wife met me for completion. I had seen very little graffiti until Ocebrera. THEN, from Sarria onward it was disgusting. Particularly, the LW scrawls. I was actually wondering what I would do if I caught them😀. Needless to say, my wife thought this was what the entire journey would look like and has no interest in returning.
I had not posted last year with the same thought as above,,,, don't give them publicity!
 

gerip

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF, Lourdes to Burgos, Oct 2018
CF, Burgos to Santiago, May 2019
Ingles, Sep - Oct 2019
That is one of the big problems with the Camino today. A pilgrimage is something that should be undertaken with some amount of thought, reflection and reverence for what was and is, and anticipation for what may be. I am not saying people should not enjoy themselves and hope to have, which most seem to, a positive and in some degree a life changing experience. With all due respect, the people involved in this vandalism are without a shadow of a doubt anything but a pilgrim. Accepting of peoples faults, personality flaws etc. is something that I have learned when I walk caminos. People who are completely rude, self serving and accepting of everything and everyone no matter how reprehensible, selfish or rude their behavior helps to foster this type of vandalism. "Hey man everyone is cool and let's just accept everyone because we are "inclusive and non judgmental", makes no sense to me. Where does this loving acceptance end and begin to turn into the acquiesce of people and actions that threaten our freedoms and actions? There are universal truths in this world. A very simple one is actions like this disqualify these people from being identified in any manner, shape or form as pilgrims.
As a Benedictines we are taught that correction of our faults is one of the many ways we are shown love.
 

Jacobus

Pilgrim since 2008
Camino(s) past & future
CF 2008 09 14
Del Norte 2011. Portuguese 2015, 2017Ingles 2015 Fisterre 2015.
To me, this was horrible!
Love certainly didn't win as a result of their irresponsible actions!

Someone with a can of red spray paint tagged waymarks all the way from Sarria to Santiago.
It was so sad.
Here is one example of their work... others on my blog.
https://caminosantiago2.blogspot.com/2019/09/to-person-who-wanted-to-inspire-love.html

If I were their parent, I'd be ashamed.
If I were their parent, they'd be walking around with a red spray painted face and I'd probably be in jail!

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Annie
Over the years at least once on each Camino I have lost it over the defacing of public property. Most noticeable is the provincial marker for Galicia on the path up to O Cebreiro. Defacing public property even if the writing or pictures are “pretty” is reprehensible. Most times there is no discernable significance except for the persons who are compelled to deface monuments, markets, traffic signs, legitimate signage, abandoned buildings etc. I hesitate to stop to rest for fear of being tagged!
 

lt56ny

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
As a Benedictines we are taught that correction of our faults is one of the many ways we are shown love.
If you are directing this to me than hopefully you are right. I must really love myself as I need about 2 lifetimes to correct 1 lifetimes worth of faults. One of the multitude of reasons I walk multitudes of caminos.
 

Dani7

Stop wishing, start doing.
Camino(s) past & future
(2020) Camino Frances
“When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint.”

Hesiod. 8th Century BC.

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

Socrates. 5th Century BC.

It’s been a problem for a while!
Well done henrythedog, well done 👍
 

San Pedro

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2018)
Mindless vandalism! Unfortunately about the only way to remove graffiti from textured granite is sandblasting which is somewhat of a process. As someone posted, monkey see monkey do is a lot of the problem, once one clown defaces something sure enough another one comes along and has to add to it. Having been in the stone business for many years I could go on forever about vandalism but probably best if I stop now.
 
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Beeks

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(2019) only 2 weeks available! St. Jean PDP - Pamplona, then Sarria - SDC with the family,
While not a graffiti fan, this gave me a chuckle...

DON'T DO IT KIDS!
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    Votes: 133 12.3%
  • November

    Votes: 13 1.2%
  • December

    Votes: 6 0.6%
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