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No, mine are in my sleep sack with me. Never in my backpack!Are they safe in your pack overnight?
Now you have.Like many other pilgrims I slept with my valuables within my sleeping bag in a pouch beneath me and NEVER told anyone where they were!!
True but at 83 I am no longer able to hike long distance so I share here with those who wish info what worked for me during 10 CFs.Now you have.
To those concerned about it, you can easily secure your backpack to a bedpost. Carry a short length of thin cable with eye loops and a small lock. The lightest you can find. All it has to be is inconvenient enough for the thief to not want to spend time on. Time is of the essence to them.While rare, there have been incidents of packs being stolen in the middle of the night from albergues. So the advice here is sound- I have a little bag for all my valuables and I throw them down into my sleeping bag. I'm short, though, so I still have room to spare in the sleeping bag.
It's always in a pouch around my neck passport, cash. Occasionally you choke yourself at least I know where everything is.I have read various posts about carrying your valuables, such as money, passports, etc, while walking, showering, etc but what do people do while asleep? Do you continue to wear them? Are they safe in your pack overnight? Just trying to figure out the logistics of it all as it relates to communal sleeping arrangements. Thanks in advance
My waist bag was comfy enough, I always slept with it on. Kept those earplugs within east reach when necessary!!I have read various posts about carrying your valuables, such as money, passports, etc, while walking, showering, etc but what do people do while asleep? Do you continue to wear them? Are they safe in your pack overnight? Just trying to figure out the logistics of it all as it relates to communal sleeping arrangements. Thanks in advance
That was a tiny bit of sarcasm which is always the lowest form of wit.True but at 83 I am no longer able to hike long distance so I share here with those who wish info what worked for me during 10 CFs.
I would never store valuables in my pack, especially while sleeping. Put them in your clothes sack and use it as a pillow.I have read various posts about carrying your valuables, such as money, passports, etc, while walking, showering, etc but what do people do while asleep? Do you continue to wear them? Are they safe in your pack overnight? Just trying to figure out the logistics of it all as it relates to communal sleeping arrangements. Thanks in advance
I have never met any peregrinos who have had stuff stolen but have never done any of the crowded caminos so maybe it is different there. However we have met more than a few peregrinos who have left stuff behind in various places, albergues, bars, tiendas, rest spots etc. We have a routine. Whenever we leave anywhere where we have had to access passports, credit cards wallets etc we go through the same standard check routine which we use when we eave first thing in the morning. Passport check, wallet check, phone check.I have read various posts about carrying your valuables, such as money, passports, etc, while walking, showering, etc but what do people do while asleep? Do you continue to wear them? Are they safe in your pack overnight? Just trying to figure out the logistics of it all as it relates to communal sleeping arrangements. Thanks in advance
I sleep with mine in my sleep sack, at the feet of the sack, when in a public albergue.I have read various posts about carrying your valuables, such as money, passports, etc, while walking, showering, etc but what do people do while asleep? Do you continue to wear them? Are they safe in your pack overnight? Just trying to figure out the logistics of it all as it relates to communal sleeping arrangements. Thanks in advance
I do the same with my crossbody bag, except that I never put it in my backpack.I never go anywhere without my money belt. If I leave my backpack in front of a cafe, it goes with me. If I get up to go to the bathroom or the bar it goes with. I take it to the shower or toilet with me. I sleep with my money belt every night. The only time it is in my backpack is when I am walking and then in a place that someone would not be able to take it unless they were physically assaulting and robbing me.
I've only heard rumors of this happening. Seems pretty risky to slash the bottom of a sleeping bag and possibly cut its occupant on the chance that's where their valuables are.I'm sure I can remember some reports from maybe a few years ago where a/some pilgrims had the bottom of their sleeping bags slashed while they were asleep and valuables removed? Maybe best to keep them up around your body and not right at the foot?
Is it washable and water proof, make,? Please.I never go anywhere without my money belt. If I leave my backpack in front of a cafe, it goes with me. If I get up to go to the bathroom or the bar it goes with. I take it to the shower or toilet with me. I sleep with my money belt every night. The only time it is in my backpack is when I am walking and then in a place that someone would not be able to take it unless they were physically assaulting and robbing me.
I stick an arm through the neck pouch and hence it becomes a cross-body pouch - less likely to choke! I keep it under my shirt and keep a bit of local currency for the day in my waist belt or a zip pocket. When I'm doing some serious shopping at a market or bizarre (or in Prague...) I keep a small amount of currency in various zipped pockets so I am never pulling out a significant amount at any one time.It's always in a pouch around my neck passport, cash. Occasionally you choke yourself at least I know where everything is.
I would add hiking poles and hat to the list as more than once these were left propped up in a corner or had fallen to the floor as we exited a bar or similar.We have a routine. Whenever we leave anywhere where we have had to access passports, credit cards wallets etc we go through the same standard check routine which we use when we eave first thing in the morning. Passport check, wallet check, phone check.
LOL, as a Mom, I got into that habit decades ago. made sure no one left behind a pacifier, stuffed animal, or other must-have whenever we (rarely) made it to a place of leisure, transportation, etc.I would add hiking poles and hat to the list as more than once these were left propped up in a corner or had fallen to the floor as we exited a bar or similar.
Nowadays, whether it be on the Camino. hiking, camping or beach trips, when we have packed up it's "Camino rules" (often said aloud) which means a good scan of the area to ensure nothing is left behind.
I have no idea if it is washable. Although i would think it would be washable. But you have to be very careful because of the strap and I think it could be damaged that way in the wash. I Never had to worry about it being waterproof. As soon as it starts to rain I put my poncho on. The name has faded on the belt.Is it washable and water proof, make,? Please.
I hope my wife doesn't see thisNever bring along anything you cannot afford to lose.
Carry them with you. Sure have a customized shopping bag if you want. At night, my valuables are in the bag they are always in. That bag may be attached to a carabiner on the inside my sleeping bag, easily removed to carry (over my shoulder) to the toilet.what do you guys do then, with your valuebles?
Charge an inexpensive power pack, or two, whilst you’re not present then use them to charge your ‘phone.Okay concerning the valuables. Question: how do you charge your phone and not get it stolen?
According to Mrs HtD, that would be the least of my problems should I ever consider transgressing.I hope my wife doesn't see this
I just wear my waist pack all night. In addition to being on you when you go wee, you can keep phone, ear buds, tissues, everything you may need during the night. And you get used to sleeping with it.I get up during the night often to take a pee break, what do you guys do then, with your valuebles? I also dont know how I will be able to sleep with my valuebles on my body ? I turn around a lot. Plan A : I was thinking to sew a long piece of light weight bright colour eg pink fabric and drape it over my pillow every night. And sew on the one side, a longer side, with a fold over pouch, to put my valuebles in. This part then will fold under my pillow and out of sight. Lightweight and bright colour so that I dont forget to take the pillow case in the morning with me. Or... Plan B : Bring along a big very lightweight shopping style bag. Keep my valuebles and fanny pack in there over night, when I need to go the bathroom in the middle of the night, I grab my shopping bag ( catch all) and drape it around my neck, so I can be hands free, to get off the top bunk safely. This big shopping bag, will also be my personal item on flights, shower time I put my clean clothes, towel and toiletries in there, clothes washing time, I use it and to go shopping for snacks and food late afternoon also. How practical might this be ?
I charge in the afternoon or evening when I am relaxing in the dorm and turn off my phone overnight. I don't bring a battery pack myself. Unnecessary weight. Sometimes if the plug is at my bed I might charge overnight... but depends on the situation. Losing a phone is bad... but not as bad as losing your passport/wallet so up to you to decide what you are willing to risk.Okay concerning the valuables. Question: how do you charge your phone and not get it stolen?
I doubt I could wear my waist bag all night as I toss and turn and am not a back sleeper. It goes in the bottom of my sleeping bag and I never get up to go to the bathroom in the night. I do bring it in my shower bag...it is NEVER left unattended.I just wear my waist pack all night. In addition to being on you when you go wee, you can keep phone, ear buds, tissues, everything you may need during the night. And you get used to sleeping with it.
I prefer to charge mine somewhere where I can see it, and keep it with me at other times. Sometimes I take the risk and leave it unattended, but if I can avoid that, I do.Okay concerning the valuables. Question: how do you charge your phone and not get it stolen?
Okay concerning the valuables. Question: how do you charge your phone and not get it stolen?
I bring a 3 meter/10 ft charging cable so that I can (almost) always reach the outlet from my bunk.I charge in the afternoon or evening when I am relaxing in the dorm and turn off my phone overnight.
I am so impressed that you never get up to go to the bathroom!!! But I’m also a tossed and turned, but after a few days…the waist bag is just part of the process.I doubt I could wear my waist bag all night as I toss and turn and am not a back sleeper. It goes in the bottom of my sleeping bag and I never get up to go to the bathroom in the night. I do bring it in my shower bag...it is NEVER left unattended.
i will need that 3 meter extension cord because I will probably need to use a CPAC machine…and recharge the phone and the extra battery pack.I bring a 3 meter/10 ft charging cable so that I can (almost) always reach the outlet from my bunk.
I totally get the feeling behind this, but you kinda need to travel with your passport and money....and you can't really afford to lose those....Never bring along anything you cannot afford to lose.
If you are carrying a CPAP, in general hospitaleros will try and put you close to a power point. Let them know in advance that you need that. The two times that I have walked, I have never needed an extension cord for my CPAP. I also carry a travel adaptor that has four USB ports. It does no voltage conversion, but I can plug it into the power point, then my CPAP into the adaptor. This is more convenient for me that carrying several chargers.i will need that 3 meter extension cord because I will probably need to use a CPAC machine…and recharge the phone and the extra battery pack.
You are very well organised, Sir. I wonder how Saint Jacques travelled back then..probably without a CPAC machine and a smartphone!If you are carrying a CPAP, in general hospitaleros will try and put you close to a power point. Let them know in advance that you need that. The two times that I have walked, I have never needed an extension cord for my CPAP. I also carry a travel adaptor that has four USB ports. It does no voltage conversion, but I can plug it into the power point, then my CPAP into the adaptor. This is more convenient for me that carrying several chargers.
I suspect that he didn't get to be overweight, over 40 and didn't snore. As for the mobile, some of the history buffs might know whether he could read and write, but they probably weren't life skills in the way they are today. Although the strongly graphical approach of smartphones might very well have worked brilliantly for him, he might just have been a bit stuck waiting for the network providers if he wasn't on one of the major Roman roadsYou are very well organised, Sir. I wonder how Saint Jacques travelled back then..probably without a CPAC machine and a smartphone!
In the bottom of my sleeping bag, in my waist belt. Every night. Don't tell anyone: It's a secret...I have read various posts about carrying your valuables, such as money, passports, etc, while walking, showering, etc but what do people do while asleep? Do you continue to wear them? Are they safe in your pack overnight? Just trying to figure out the logistics of it all as it relates to communal sleeping arrangements. Thanks in advance
I carry all my valuables in a waist bag which goes at the bottom of my sleeping bag in the albergues. My feet keep watch over them all night long for me.
The problem with putting your waist bag at the bottom of your bag is some thieves have actually come in and quietly cut bags to get to them. I doubt it happens much on the Camino - but this is a concern of mine in the bigger cities in albergues/hostels. And when I travelled in couchettes on trains and staying in dorms in big cities - I was actually warned about this.I doubt I could wear my waist bag all night as I toss and turn and am not a back sleeper. It goes in the bottom of my sleeping bag and I never get up to go to the bathroom in the night. I do bring it in my shower bag...it is NEVER left unattended.
I have done this before too - but I like my shorter cables. It is rare when I find it is difficult to charge without leaving my phone unattended.I bring a 3 meter/10 ft charging cable so that I can (almost) always reach the outlet from my bunk.
I am so impressed that you never get up to go to the bathroom!!! But I’m also a tossed and turned, but after a few days…the waist bag is just part of the process.
This perfectly sums up my approach. I've been robbed twice over 25 years of travel and feel happy with the balance I've struck between caution and obsession.Sometimes I take the risk and leave it unattended, but if I can avoid that, I do.
I have read this many times on the forum, but not from anyone who has first hand experience, so I'm pretty skeptical that it actually happens.The problem with putting your waist bag at the bottom of your bag is some thieves have actually come in and quietly cut bags to get to them
That's what I do too.If I do take it off while I sleep - I do still keep it in my sleeping bag or liner, but have it between my waist and the wall - close to my body still.
Like I said - I don't think it is a problem so much on the Camino - but I do know it happens. I was warned by a couple of people who knew people this happened to. One of which was a train employee for a night train, another was a person who worked in a hostel in a big city. It was a topic of conversation multiple times that year (2003 I believe)I have read this many times on the forum, but not from anyone who has first hand experience, so I'm pretty skeptical that it actually happens.
I think this adequately demonstrates @trecile's point. It appears you are basing your 'knowledge' not on first hand, but second hand accounts at best. Which means you are expecting us to believe what is now a third hand account. You might have thought that your informant was a good source, but you weren't able to test their source. We are even more removed.Like I said - I don't think it is a problem so much on the Camino - but I do know it happens. I was warned by a couple of people who knew people this happened to. One of which was a train employee for a night train, another was a person who worked in a hostel in a big city. It was a topic of conversation multiple times that year (2003 I believe)
LMAO - No, I didn't have it happen to ME. The people I was talking to had issues IN THEIR BUSINESS with it happening. And why would I want to test it? So I could have my valuables stolen? Seriously? I don't expect you to believe anything - but I had reason to trust my sources. They had multiple cases in their businesses with theft in that manner. They had multiple cases on different occasions where they had to deal with the people who had their valuables stolen in this manner. Their warnings were to help further help their customers avoid becoming victims.I think this adequately demonstrates @trecile's point. It appears you are basing your 'knowledge' not on first hand, but second hand accounts at best. Which means you are expecting us to believe what is now a third hand account. You might have thought that your informant was a good source, but you weren't able to test their source. We are even more removed.
For a start, I would be concerned that with each generation of the telling of a story, the retelling gets further removed from what actually did happen. Few of us live in a culture where the historical accuracy of oral history is highly valued. We interpret, interpolate and add explanations that might fill in the gaps we are curious about. We risk our interpretations becoming the facts for the next generation of the story, until it bears little or no resemblance to what might have originally taken place. The instructive values that might have existed soon get lost in the urban myth that has been created along the way.LMAO - No, I didn't have it happen to ME. The people I was talking to had issues IN THEIR BUSINESS with it happening. And why would I want to test it?
LOL... when I had these conversations it wasn't some conversation about an urban legend/myth. I was speaking directly with the staff of a hostel and staff on a train who personally had to deal with the multiple angry customers who lost their valuables in this manner and they (these particular staff) were part of the process of making multiple police reports and trying to help identify the criminals in the cases over a long enough period of time that they felt the need to warn their future customers. They were part of the first hand experience. They weren't relaying some urban legend. They were relaying first hand personal experience as the people dealing with the theft and trying to prevent it from happening again in their personal business. And you are essentially telling me that I shouldn't have believed them. Um, OK. So, basically what you are saying is I should never believed anything that someone warned me about that happened to them in their business or personal life. If that is the case - then why are any of us who have never been robbed concerned that theft in any way can happen at any time on the Camino or elsewhere in our travels? Afterall, it didn't happen to me!For a start, I would be concerned that with each generation of the telling of a story, the retelling gets further removed from what actually did happen. Few of us live in a culture where the historical accuracy of oral history is highly valued. We interpret, interpolate and add explanations that might fill in the gaps we are curious about. We risk our interpretations becoming the facts for the next generation of the story, until it bears little or no resemblance to what might have originally taken place. The instructive values that might have existed soon get lost in the urban myth that has been created along the way.
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