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A Tiny Bottle of Liquid

2020 Camino Guides

jsalt

Jill
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle of LIQUID.
 
Camino(s) past & future
cycled from Pamplona Sep 2015;Frances, walked from St Jean May/June 2017. Plans to walk Porto 2020
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle of LIQUID.
Hola if it’s a prescription medicine get a copy of the prescription from your doctor. Make sure the prescription refers to the product by its full medical, Latin, name. Then you should be OK!
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
there is no requirement to put tooth paste, brush, etc in clear baggie/bag.
Toothpaste has to go in the liquids bag. If it can be poured out of a bottle or squeezed out of a tube it goes in the baggie.
I think that there are exceptions for liquid prescription medicines if they won't fit in the bag, but you'll have to check that out yourself. You will have to put any liquids, medicines or not in the tray.
 

davebugg

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances(2017)
Frances(2018)
Ingles(2019)
Aragones(2020)
Portuguese(2020)
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle of LIQUID.
Anything that even hints at the TSA or international airport security wanting to have me pull stuff out of my backpack, is carried (while traveling) in a stuff sack, separate from the other contents in the pack. As I reach the conveyor that draws stuff through the x-ray device, I pull out that sack, dump the contents into a tub, and then place my backpack on the conveyor.

That way, all the electronic stuff, tiny fluid containers, etc are quite readily visible. Once through the body scanner, I collect the backpack, set it on top of the tub, and carry it to the side. I quickly replace the items in the stuff sack, throw the stuff sack into the backpack, and I am quickly able to proceed to the gate.

I find that for me, this is quicker than having the security agent pull my backpack aside, and then asking me to remove contents.
 

martyseville

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Anything that even hints at the TSA or international airport security wanting to have me pull stuff out of my backpack, is carried (while traveling) in a stuff sack, separate from the other contents in the pack. As I reach the conveyor that draws stuff through the x-ray device, I pull out that sack, dump the contents into a tub, and then place my backpack on the conveyor.

That way, all the electronic stuff, tiny fluid containers, etc are quite readily visible. Once through the body scanner, I collect the backpack, set it on top of the tub, and carry it to the side. I quickly replace the items in the stuff sack, throw the stuff sack into the backpack, and I am quickly able to proceed to the gate.

I find that for me, this is quicker than having the security agent pull my backpack aside, and then asking me to remove contents.
good idea. Thanks.
 

Friend from Barquinha

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
None yet; perhaps the Portugese (2021?)
since you say medicine.. be careful when taking Meds into European countries. Or any country for that matter.

rule is all medications are in original container.
If it has a RX then RX must be on med container. Listing name of med. Doctor name. Your name , etc
I go quite regularly between Canada and Portugal, usually entering the Schengen area through Amsterdam. I take 3 medications in tablet form on an ongoing basis. What I have done, and I have never had this questioned anywhere, going through security:

1/ I get a 7-day "tablets per day" pill dispenser.

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2/ I put enough of each of the meds in this dispenser for the number of weeks that I'm travelling. So for a 4-week trip, I'd end up with 12 tablets, 4 of each, in each of the 7 compartments. This is much more compact and easy to handle than 3 vials.

3/ I pulled off the prescription label for each, from an old pill bottle, and stuck them all on the outside of the pill dispenser. Cellotape (Scotch tape) helps!

4/ I refill this each time I travel.

It's obvious that there are 3 prescriptions, and that each of them is documented. All the pills are mixed; they look different, so it's easy to pull out one of each, every day. As I say, I've never been questioned or hassled about this in any airport security, and I never even bother taking it out of my carry-on knapsack.

Of course, liquids are a bit trickier!
 

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henrythedog

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I’m really anal about cruising through security. When I worked for a living I flew 2-3,times a week for almost 20 years.

Very occasionally I still got stopped - usually when the metal detector alerted as I passed through, with no more metal than my fillings.

I found a friendly staff member once - they do exist - and she explained that the detectors are set to trigger randomly as well as in response to a detection.

It amazed me that my overnight bag with a bunch of spare batteries, alarm clock and nest of cables rarely attracted attention.
 
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jsalt

Jill
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés
I love the replies I’m getting!

I’m really just wondering if I should put my little bottle of 30ml Canabidiol (not prescription stuff) into my shoulder bag or a clear ziplock bag.

Many thanks for the responses :D.
 

SabineP

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martyseville

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I go quite regularly between Canada and Portugal, usually entering the Schengen area through Amsterdam. I take 3 medications in tablet form on an ongoing basis. What I have done, and I have never had this questioned anywhere, going through security:

1/ I get a 7-day "tablets per day" pill dispenser.

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2/ I put enough of each of the meds in this dispenser for the number of weeks that I'm travelling. So for a 4-week trip, I'd end up with 12 tablets, 4 of each, in each of the 7 compartments. This is much more compact and easy to handle than 3 vials.

3/ I pulled off the prescription label for each, from an old pill bottle, and stuck them all on the outside of the pill dispenser. Cellotape (Scotch tape) helps!

4/ I refill this each time I travel.

It's obvious that there are 3 prescriptions, and that each of them is documented. All the pills are mixed; they look different, so it's easy to pull out one of each, every day. As I say, I've never been questioned or hassled about this in any airport security, and I never even bother taking it out of my carry-on knapsack.

Of course, liquids are a bit trickier!
portugal, Italy, spain, Greece seem to be more relaxed at times than Uk. and Germany.

living in Seville I go to those countries and to US often.

the Germans are very strict when it comes to pills, meds of any sort, liquids not in 3oz bottles etc.

sorry if I came on very strong about this post.

but, very personal reasons for following the rules on public transport

bless all

it is also on each of us to do our part to keep others safe
 

Albertagirl

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Frances (2015); Ch. d'Arles: Oloron Ste Marie to Aragones; Frances (2016); V.d.l.P.; Sanabres (2017)
On one recent occasion, going through the check-in line, I had a container, somewhat larger than the required size, of prescribed ointment made up by a pharmacist, who put into a plastic jar with an attached label with all information. I gave this jar separately to a security agent, who took it away to test with some sort of machine and then returned it to me. On another occasion, I decanted some of the same ointment into a smaller jar, labelled with a similar label, the container being left over from a previous prescription. I then put it the container in the bag provided for liquids. It went through without question. I always decant liquid shampoo into smaller containers for taking through security, as I buy it in very large bottles. I have never had any difficulty with this, although the label on the bottles indicates that it is a different hair care product. In general, I would suggest that it is always wise to do whatever you can to follow instructions to the letter and to point out to an agent when anything looks a little different. If the agent had questioned any item which I carried, I would simply have described exactly what I carried and why I re-bottled it and agreed to its being confiscated without complaint. I want to be safe and I want to avoid a hassle at check-in and it makes no sense to deliberately put myself in a position to be refused boarding.
 

SYates

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I’m really just wondering if I should put my little bottle of 30ml Canabidiol (not prescription stuff) into my shoulder bag or a clear ziplock bag.

Many thanks for the responses :D.
Why are you even wondering? Put it in the ziplock bag and be on the safe side!
BC SY
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
I’m really just wondering if I should put my little bottle of 30ml Canabidiol (not prescription stuff) into my shoulder bag or a clear ziplock bag.
Clearly, it can't be in your shoulder bag - it's a liquid!!
And I certainly would never try to travel internationally with a substance which may be illegal.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2005,2008,2010,2015.camino Portuguese 2007 .primativo2012.camino Norte 2009.sjpdp to finisterre and muxia 2007. Le Puy to jpdp 2006. Via francigena vercelli to Lucca 2014. Lucca to Rome 2016.
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle of LIQUID.
Not sure about the oil but why stuff the little plastic bag with things like toothpaste, hand cream etc when these things can be bought when you land and most if not all countries now do travel sizes of all toiletries
 

Albertagirl

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Frances (2015); Ch. d'Arles: Oloron Ste Marie to Aragones; Frances (2016); V.d.l.P.; Sanabres (2017)
I use a one quart bag for liquids and am happy to limit my toiletries to this size. I have preferences for what I carry: no scented products, no substance to which I am allergic, no excessive quantities of any personal product. This is easier for me to control if I carry such products with me than if I try to buy them locally. There are some exceptions: for example: Voltadol Forte to rub on arthritic joints, available in Spain in modest sizes. I guess that if you are very familiar with what is available in a country and what suits you, it could work to buy them after you arrive. But then, I might well end up with more than I want to carry.
 

davebugg

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Not sure about the oil but why stuff the little plastic bag with things like toothpaste, hand cream etc when these things can be bought when you land and most if not all countries now do travel sizes of all toiletries
That's a fair point, Annette.

For me, taking a small amount of stuff from home, that I will use on Camino, is so that I do not have to spend part of my time in St Jean or Ferrol or Porto, etc, shopping for travel sized items. I want to spent that time other ways while visiting prior to walking on the next morning.

BUT. . . if I am doing any quick shopping for snacks and such for the next day's walk, then your suggestion makes perfect sense.
 

C clearly

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I love the replies I’m getting!
Great thread! 🤣

I’m really just wondering if I should put my little bottle of 30ml Canabidiol (not prescription stuff) into my shoulder bag or a clear ziplock bag.
I think all liquids and gels are supposed to go into 1 clear 1-litre-size bag.

No one has raised the question of whether drops of sweat on your forehead need to be wiped down.
 

jsalt

Jill
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés
Thank you so much for this link. I hadn't seen this thread before.

My 30ml bottle of CBD oil is definitely helping me to manage the pain of facet joint osteoarthritis, but it is very expensive, so I don’t want to risk having it confiscated at customs – once I’ve got it through security 🤣.

Can anyone help me locate a store in either Lisbon or Santiago where I can buy it?
 

wayfarer

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Sarria-Santiago Sept. 2013
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Online info for CBD in Portugal.

How to get CBD oil in Portugal?
Usually, in countries like the US, you can take CBD oil with the help of a medical marijuana card but the same does not apply to Portugal. Like I said earlier, you need to take a prescription from a doctor that states your need for medical marijuana. The doctor will specify the condition you’re using it for and the amount of dosage you need to consume. If you’re confused about the method of ingestion, the doctor will guide you on the same.
Hope this helps.
 

jsalt

Jill
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés
We can buy it over the counter here in South Africa, no prescription necessary. The other thread implies that it can also be bought over the counter in Spain, but perhaps not in Portugal. If I can’t locate such a store in Lisbon or Santiago before I leave (in 3 weeks time), then perhaps I should ask my doctor to write a note for me. CBD oil has no known side effects, as it’s a natural product, so if it works for me I’d rather take one drop twice daily, than resort to prescription drugs.
 

wayfarer

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Yes, it can be bought over the counter in Spain, but it seems a prescription is required in Portugal.
 

makingtrax

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Primativo 2016
Frances sept 2017!
U r usually only allowed 1 clea
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle of LIQUID.
 

Derrybiketours

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My 30ml bottle of CBD oil is definitely helping me to manage the pain of facet joint osteoarthritis, but it is very expensive, so I don’t want to risk having it confiscated at customs
Maybe you could stick a stamp on it and send ahead of schedule to starting point. I would put inside pair of hiking socks to protect and use 🤠
 

JabbaPapa

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Ask the airport and the airline ; and ask the airport and the airline for the return journey too.

Also ask a pharmacist/apothecary if some little medical plastic in-flight teeny bag isn't obtainable for such situations ?

You know, it might be worth actually going to the airport and then talking to the right person there face-to-face. That person will know all of this to the tips of his fingers, which will be unquestionably better than any of our guesswork.

but ewww, CBD oil ? It's less the li'l bottle than what's inside it that will cause problems. Technically, carrying that with you is drug trafficking -- you also need to be darn careful with stuff like Tramadol and other opioids. (and it doesn't necessarily make things "easier" if you're just walking over the border, last time I crossed from France to Spain at the Perthus, the street was full of Spanish plain clothesmen trying to catch cannabis smugglers)

But ask at the departure airport and the airline -- it may be possible for you to take the bottle for the flight itself, but then surrender it to an air hostess or air marshal for disposal rather than try and bring it into the country of arrival.

People have actually ended up in prison for such things.
 
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Texasguy

And so...we keep on walking ..
Camino(s) past & future
French Dec in 2013
Por 03- 2015
Ingles 11- 2015
French 12- 2016
Invierno Nov 2018
Kumano 2017
Hi there,
I travel twice a month internationally, for ANY liquid in excess of the 3.0 oz, if it prescription, YOU MUST HAVE THE PRESCRIPTION NOTE, with your name and Dr. info.
Bateries, cables, etc, etc, etc. it is not important, there are ways to get whatever info they need. Liquid, talc, anything powder, toothpaste over the 3.0, cologne, deodorant (gel), lotion, etc.... these are the things that will delayed your journey..

Buen Camino,

Texasguy
 
Camino(s) past & future
Sarria to Santiago 2014
Pamplona to Santiago 2017
Norte. 2018
Anything that even hints at the TSA or international airport security wanting to have me pull stuff out of my backpack, is carried (while traveling) in a stuff sack, separate from the other contents in the pack. As I reach the conveyor that draws stuff through the x-ray device, I pull out that sack, dump the contents into a tub, and then place my backpack on the conveyor.

That way, all the electronic stuff, tiny fluid containers, etc are quite readily visible. Once through the body scanner, I collect the backpack, set it on top of the tub, and carry it to the side. I quickly replace the items in the stuff sack, throw the stuff sack into the backpack, and I am quickly able to proceed to the gate.

I find that for me, this is quicker than having the security agent pull my backpack aside, and then asking me to remove contents.
Dave- what airport are you using that does not require you to not put your liquids in a clear baggie? Unless you are precheck
 

KJFSophie

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If it is a matter of keeping the medication more handy than the other bag during the flight, or if it doesn't fit in the other bag you DO have the option of putting it in another clear bag. Prescription medications, breast milk, formula, all are not included in the one bag rule. The one thing you need to do is keep it in it's original bottle ( or have pharmacy put in more suitable size ) and keep appropriate labels on it. I travel with 6 oz of liquid medication EVERY TIME I TRAVEL and have never had an issue. I place both clear bags in bin for screening. I do put the other liquids back in my pack in the overhead, but keep my medication close to me on the plane in my fanny pack.
You can go to the actual TSA site to confirm.
 

trecile

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Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
Prescription medications, breast milk, formula, all are not included in the one bag rule. The one thing you need to do is keep it in it's original bottle ( or have pharmacy put in more suitable size )
@jsalt has stated that this medication is not a prescription.
You can go to the actual TSA site to confirm
I believe that she's flying from South Africa. TSA is for travelers from the US, and the rules can be different in different countries.
 

NorthernLight

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Aragonese & Frances 2016
Burgos to Muxia 2017
So to summarize, there are two issues:

1. How to pack it so it gets through airport security. It needs to be with all the other liquids and gels in a single, clear litre-sized ziplock bag.

2. Carrying it across international borders without being arrested. Just because any given country has legalized or decriminalized cannabis, does not mean laws affecting the movement of said goods across the border have changed. I’d be doing a lot of research in the destination government websites or calling their offices for factual information and any hint that it is not okay would be the gospel. Good luck.
 

Simon B

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Toothpaste has to go in the liquids bag. If it can be poured out of a bottle or squeezed out of a tube it goes in the baggie.
I think that there are exceptions for liquid prescription medicines if they won't fit in the bag, but you'll have to check that out yourself. You will have to put any liquids, medicines or not in the tray.
My local eco shop is stocking little hard tablets, that dissolve on contact with water, for teeth cleaning which I plan to take with me next month on the VDLP - very light, inexpensive and saves hassle on the plane.
 

KJFSophie

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@jsalt has stated that this medication is not a prescription.

I believe that she's flying from South Africa. TSA is for travelers from the US, and the rules can be different in different countries.
So so sorry @trecile for not reading through entire thread before offering a suggestion. I stand corrected.
 

KRG

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Santiago to muxia 2017
Burgos to Santiago 2019
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle of LIQUID.
I am not sure about international flights but I thought prescription medicine was considered okay. I was on a flight last year, Vancouver to Kauai, and I just had to go through a separate line. Haven’t yet had a liquid prescription while travelling to the camino though.
 

davebugg

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Dave- what airport are you using that does not require you to not put your liquids in a clear baggie? Unless you are precheck
All the airports that I've been through, international as well as American. The clear baggie is primarily so that they can visualize the bottle, as opposed to it being in an opaque cosmetics bag, etc. As long as it is in the tub and out of the stuff sack, the security folks are happy. :)
 

Telboyo

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That's a fair point, Annette.

For me, taking a small amount of stuff from home, that I will use on Camino, is so that I do not have to spend part of my time in St Jean or Ferrol or Porto, etc, shopping for travel sized items. I want to spent that time other ways while visiting prior to walking on the next morning.

BUT. . . if I am doing any quick shopping for snacks and such for the next day's walk, then your suggestion makes perfect sense.
Just outside of the town of SJPP is a Lidl, great place for snacks, nuts etc and toiletries it helps that I use their own brand stuff when I at home.
 

davebugg

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Just outside of the town of SJPP is a Lidl, great place for snacks, nuts etc and toiletries it helps that I use their own brand stuff when I at home.
:) In SJPdP, snacks are all about pastries, cheeses, and sausages for that first day's walking. A bocadillo and some other goodies, along with Coke and Fanta, at the break at Orisson 👍
 

Tincatinker

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Lots ;0)
I've been enjoying this thread. Some accurate information, some b8llocks, and a dose of wishful thinking mixed with wild speculation. Oh, and I've enjoyed the diversions into recommended supermarkets and the benefits of living elsewhere.

The OP asked how she might best transport a small phial of liquid through airport security and onto an international flight. We got a late reveal that the liquid was actually a substance subject to extremely variable control. Any cannabinoid product is subject to some form of control in any country that signed up to the 1961 and 1971 International Drug Control Conventions. The advice given - to seek advice is apposite. In Spain growing your own "dope" is legal. Selling it could result in a prison sentence. Possessing a cannabinoid product is legal. importing it (?) Ask the Judge. In Portugal possession is illegal so I'd guess that importation results in double jeopardy.

Is anybody going to bother with 30mils of a viscous liquid in a labelled phial tucked in amongst the sun-block, toothpaste and moisturiser clutched in the hand of a smiley pilgrim taking the long-way-round to Santiago - who knows.

But if I was me I probably wouldn't have posed the question on a public forum in the first place ;)
 
Camino(s) past & future
2017, 2018 neither successful
The problem is getting past Homland Security, or what evermthey are called, here in the US. When you pass over the boarder between France and Spain, starting from Saint Jean there is no type of boarder check. It is not really clear where the boarder is. It seems to be at the cattle guard.
 

NorthernLight

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy to Santiago via the Frances 2012-2013. EPW2015
Aragonese & Frances 2016
Burgos to Muxia 2017
All the airports that I've been through, international as well as American. The clear baggie is primarily so that they can visualize the bottle, as opposed to it being in an opaque cosmetics bag, etc. As long as it is in the tub and out of the stuff sack, the security folks are happy. :)
I’d say you’ve had a run of luck. I’ve had security folks annoyed that my liquids and gels were in a one gallon clear ziplock bag, not a quart sized one. (It all fit into a quart bag but I must have been without one at the time.)

I remember when the 1 litre/quart bags began to be required. It was after the shoe bomber on that flight had caused airport security to require everyone to have only one carry on bag (no purses or personal bags - it all had to go into one bag) and zero liquids. When they eased up, it was to the one litre clear bag and each liquid was limited in quantity. Presumably so there wasn’t enough to blow stuff up.

On another note, lots of airports have sniffer dogs and have them run by incoming passengers, looking for drugs (and food in Aussieland). I’d be leaving my cannabis at home. There’s always a supply at your destination if you so require.
 

Kathar1na

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santiago and beyond (own way - voie de Tours - camino francés - Biskaya - Manche)
I’d say you’ve had a run of luck. I’ve had security folks annoyed that my liquids and gels were in a one gallon clear ziplock bag, not a quart sized one.
Same here: I, too, was once admonished by the security staff (don't remember the airport, it was a major airport in Europe) because my items were not in an obligatory one litre transparent plastic bag but in a larger three litre bag, and I was surprised to read that a tub is allowed in the US.

Entertaining thread: the bottle of liquid that doesn't fit into the bag although it's a tiny bottle ... 😂
 

davebugg

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances(2017)
Frances(2018)
Ingles(2019)
Aragones(2020)
Portuguese(2020)
I’d say you’ve had a run of luck. I’ve had security folks annoyed that my liquids and gels were in a one gallon clear ziplock bag, not a quart sized one. (It all fit into a quart bag but I must have been without one at the time.)
I'm sorry, but I do not understand about the running out of luck?
 

ChristianSdeM

Member
Camino(s) past & future
StJPP-Burgos, 2014-16.
Camino Ingles '17, Portugués '18-'19
Put at it's simplest, in Europe, the 1 litre/1 US quart transparent bag can contain liquids/gels/pastes up to 100ml/0.1 US quart for each item. My experience is that occasionally some people have more than one transparent bag (for example a LOT of makeup) and don't get into trouble as long as the item volume limit is met. I have never seen the security staff interested in what are the actual contents.
 

witsendwv

Member
Camino(s) past & future
(2015)
My husband must carry several bottles of gel medication when we travel. There are exemptions to the rules for necessary medicines. TSA rules: https://www.tsa.gov/travel/special-procedures. As the rules state, they do not need to be in a plastic, bag he still puts them in his carry-on in a gallon ziploc in their original boxes with the prescription label attached. We have never had a problem getting through screening whether we had a nonstop flight or arrived in Spain through Ireland. Hope this helps.
 

jsalt

Jill
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés
There’s always a supply at your destination if you so require.
That's the problem. There isn't. I cannot locate anywhere in Galicia (where I shall be walking) that sells Cannabidiol, although it appears to be legal.

As it is helping me cope with the pain in my spine, I am getting a bit worried of not having it with me for the 3 weeks I will be walking.

Is this the end of my caminos?
 

jsalt

Jill
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés
But if I was me I probably wouldn't have posed the question on a public forum in the first place ;)
Ha ha! I was getting a bit bored with all the backpack, shoes and weather threads, so I thought I'd liven things up a bit.

Just kidding (maybe).

😂
 

jsalt

Jill
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés
Maybe you could stick a stamp on it and send ahead of schedule to starting point. I would put inside pair of hiking socks to protect and use 🤠
Great idea, but the postal system is almost non-existent (i.e. is not reliable) to and from South Africa, so the chances of anything arriving anywhere anytime is pretty hit and miss.
 

NorthernLight

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy to Santiago via the Frances 2012-2013. EPW2015
Aragonese & Frances 2016
Burgos to Muxia 2017
That's the problem. There isn't. I cannot locate anywhere in Galicia (where I shall be walking) that sells Cannabidiol, although it appears to be legal.

As it is helping me cope with the pain in my spine, I am getting a bit worried of not having it with me for the 3 weeks I will be walking.

Is this the end of my caminos?
Can it be purchased on Amazon -the European version - or other European supply point and mailed to your starting point? That way it doesn’t have to clear customs (which mail would have to from outside Europe).
 

Re-tired

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances
If you are a U.S. Citizen, consider applying for Global Entry. It comes with automatic enrollment in Pre-check. I'm a frequent flyer and I have had Pre-check for nearly 10 years. As long as your liquids are less than 3 ounces each, you don't have to put it in a clear plastic bag and you don't have to even take it out of your carry on bag or backpack. Of course, this only applies in U.S. airports...
 

SYates

Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
Camino(s) past & future
First: Camino Francés 1999
...
Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/
Can it be purchased on Amazon -the European version - or other European supply point and mailed to your starting point? That way it doesn’t have to clear customs (which mail would have to from outside Europe).
Seems amazon.es has quite a selection, you could order it from there and let them ship it to me and I get to you in some way. BC SY
 

Lacroix

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Portuguese (2020)
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle of LIQUID.
Anything SPREADABLE needs to go into ONE baggie no larger than 1L capacity. I had to throw things one time as my baggie was too big!
 

Friend from Barquinha

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
None yet; perhaps the Portugese (2021?)
And here's an article summarizing what seems to be the situation about CBD oil in Portugal right now...


Rather inconclusive about exactly how/whether you can get it, though using it seems okay.
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Camino(s) past & future
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If you're starting in Portugal, then -- take with you a quick letter from your doctor saying you need the CBD for this or that reason ; spend day zero in Lisbon with an English-speaking doctor who can understand the note and give you a one month prescription (if possible, book the appointment before leaving home) ; get the CBD at a pharmacist shop.

Ditch the bottle before taking your plane back to SA.
 

Kanga

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese, Primitivo
I've never had a problem with liquids in small containers, packed in a clear plastic zip bag. Antibiotic eye drops, saline solution, nasal spray, perfume - they are all colourless liquids.

For your problem, even if it is not prescription medication, I would try to get a doctor's letter to take with me. A simple statement on his/her letterhead that you suffer from back pain, and will be carrying Cannabidiol to use for that purpose. It does not have to say that the doctor prescribed or recommended it.

If it were me I would not do anything underhand. If you make it visible in your plastic bag, you think you are within the law (because it is legal in Spain), the worst thing that is likely to happen is that it will get confiscated. Better that than time in jail.
 

Mycroft

Active Member
If this has been discussed before please point me to the right thread.

I have to take a 30ml bottle of medicine on the plane with me.

I know what the legal requirements are.

No hold luggage.

Can I just put it in my small shoulder bag, which goes through the security scan as normal?

Or should I put it through the scanner separately, in a clear zip-lock bag, with my toothpaste, small bottle of shampoo, tube of conditioner, moisturiser, deodorant, betadine antiseptic cream, voltaren cream, hand cream . . . . clear zip-lock bag getting a bit full now . . . . maybe add the metal nail clippers and tweezers just in case . . . you get the idea.

A trivial question . . . sorry! . . . ( . . . for goodness sake! just have TWO clear zip-lock bags) but I would be interested to know if others have been stopped, anywhere, anytime, because the scanner picked up a TINY bottle of LIQUID.
Yes a liquid medication should be put into the zip bag with your other liquids, unless it is some kind of radioactive treatment (then it needs a separate bag). In any case, one should have it labeled appropriately and carry a prescription from your health care provider in case you ever are questioned or if you lose your med and need a refill.
 

Kiwi-family

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018)-Frances, Baztan, San Salvador, Primitivo, Fisterra,VdlP, Madrid
Why did I read this thread? ;-)
 

Rafter

New Member
I go quite regularly between Canada and Portugal, usually entering the Schengen area through Amsterdam. I take 3 medications in tablet form on an ongoing basis. What I have done, and I have never had this questioned anywhere, going through security:

1/ I get a 7-day "tablets per day" pill dispenser.

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2/ I put enough of each of the meds in this dispenser for the number of weeks that I'm travelling. So for a 4-week trip, I'd end up with 12 tablets, 4 of each, in each of the 7 compartments. This is much more compact and easy to handle than 3 vials.

3/ I pulled off the prescription label for each, from an old pill bottle, and stuck them all on the outside of the pill dispenser. Cellotape (Scotch tape) helps!

4/ I refill this each time I travel.

It's obvious that there are 3 prescriptions, and that each of them is documented. All the pills are mixed; they look different, so it's easy to pull out one of each, every day. As I say, I've never been questioned or hassled about this in any airport security, and I never even bother taking it out of my carry-on knapsack.

Of course, liquids are a bit trickier!
I take about 10 pills a day... mostly supplements, but 3 that count. Several Caminos have been a month or more in duration. I bought small plastic pill bags that seal and placed a days worth in each. Placed all in a clear plastic tub. Double waterproof and low mess. The empty bags went back into the tub... Used them three times, so far, and they were never questioned by security.
 

CdnDreamer

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (12, 15 & 18) San Salvador (18), Portuguese (19)
I just found a website for O Dispensario (CBD Only) in Santiago. Address: Rúa do Cardeal Payá, 7 Baixo, 15703 Santiago de Compostela Phone number +34 691 68 21 51. Maybe someone in Santiago can see if this is what you are looking for.

If you can't find CBD oil in Spain, have you tried ibuprofen cream? We can't get it in Canada, so I bring some home every time I go. It was recommended to me by a pilgrim who has MS and she said it was the best medicine she has ever come across. i find it works better than anything we have in Canada.
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Camino(s) past & future
100 characters or fewer : see signature details
have you tried ibuprofen cream? We can't get it in Canada, so I bring some home every time I go. It was recommended to me by a pilgrim who has MS and she said it was the best medicine she has ever come across. i find it works better than anything we have in Canada.
Ibuprofen is generally unsuitable for long-term usage, but it can be OK for a shorter 1 to 3 week Camino. Any longer than that, and well, you'd probably be better off with a more specific prescription anti-inflammatory from your own doctor.
 

jsalt

Jill
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés
I just found a website for O Dispensario (CBD Only) in Santiago. Address: Rúa do Cardeal Payá, 7 Baixo, 15703 Santiago de Compostela Phone number +34 691 68 21 51.
Thank you, yes, I had also zoomed in on that one, but when I zoomed in a bit further the CBD oil they sell is drops that one puts in the bath. My chances of getting a bath on the camino are zilch, but I thought I would check them out anyway when I get there.

Many thanks for looking!

I'll probably just take my Arcoxia pills (prescription tablets) and forget about the CBD oil for this trip.

I appreciate everyone's replies!
 

Kathar1na

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santiago and beyond (own way - voie de Tours - camino francés - Biskaya - Manche)
when I zoomed in a bit further the CBD oil they sell is drops that one puts in the bath
There is a current issue around CBD oil that nobody has mentioned: it is difficult to market in EU countries at the moment because a year ago, at the beginning of 2019, the European food agency EFSA classified it as a so called "novel food". This has led to diverse market situations in the various countries, and my understanding is that what is currently sold in shops in Spain is labelled as "for external use only", ie as cosmetic products and not as edible products that are ingested. This may be the main reason why it is currently difficult to find a real world shop in Spain that sells what you want to buy.
 
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Kathar1na

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santiago and beyond (own way - voie de Tours - camino francés - Biskaya - Manche)
This comprehensive list, updated in January 2020, seems to be more informative for the worldwide traveller than many others. About the availability of CBD oil in Spain, it says:

The cultivation of cannabis for personal use in Spain is legal. By law, any cannabis product (including CBD) cannot be bought or sold in Spain as a consumable product. CBD is legally allowed to be sold as a cosmetic product. Despite this, consumable CBD products are still available in Spain but display the warning ‘for external use only’. These CBD products must have less than 0.2% THC.
The list ends with this recommendation: [...] the legal state of cannabis and products across the world is as varied and diverse as the planet itself. The hard rule is that if you are unsure about the legislation in a certain country, then opt to be safe and don’t travel with CBD.
 

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