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That sounds closer to my style of walking - maybe I should have said I'm 77I am 68 Peter. I probably fall within the 3-4 mile range but I know I am also in the 4-5 range. I know for me it depends on many factors. I start out more slowly in the morning and usually end more slowly in the afternoon depending on how far I have gone that day. The first few days of the camino I also walk a little more slowly until I find my rhythm. The more I walk the more quickly I find my rhythm but early on I will purposely take longer to get to it as I am very careful to get my body into "camino"shape. The same goes for distance per day. I try to keep stages (if possible) between 20-22k per day no more than that. Since I have the luxury of time I can afford to break stages up. This year I am walking the Aragones to the CF to Santiago. The first "stage" on Gronze is about 30k. I will break that up into 2 days. Gronze has this Camino in 6 stages. I will take 9 or maybe 10. Also early on in my caminos I look at each day as 5k caminos. I walk about 5K and then I stop wherever I am, take some water and some snack and relax. Depending on how I feel it may be 10 minutes or longer. I get up and walk again for 5k. When I am ready for lunch (which I often carry with me) I usually try to find a bench in a town, when possible or a stone wall or a tree and take 45-hour. I have learned your body will tell you when it has rested and that you should start to walk again. I was going to start in early November but I decided to start about October 20th from Samport to make sure I have access to albergues. I will walk some half days even later on caminos (10-15K0 instead of a rest day. So the length of time I walk varies quite a bit based on how long I have been walking and how I feel. Later on I may walk 27 or 28k one day and 10-15 the next. I just listen to my body and never my head or others who I have met along whichever camino I am on. Just follow my rhythm and my body.
I guess this doesn't help to much haha
Meet me in Barcelona in late in mid October and you can join me on my Camino from Somport on the Aragones to the CF to Santiago.That sounds closer to my style of walking - maybe I should have said I'm 77
Peter, I am a lazy toerag. Born and bred in a town near Glasgow, I would not walk the length of myself till I was almost 58, and set out on the cf. Since then if I do not get in my daily at home 10,000 steps I berate myself. I know that I managed a 1km 12 minute average on my CF. Oh dear, I have slowed down! Is that helpful for your research? I need to go on to something else now, but will check in later. And aren't we so blessed to have this luxury of comparing speed notes? Please believe me, I am serious. I respect your question.Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
Slow and proudRecently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
I wonder if the research included carrying a pack, and what difference that made.My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
It would be interesting to find out if those stats were based on people walking with or without a backpack, on flat or hilly terrain, and for walks over what distance.Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
I'm pretty sure that it probay average pace on a standard stroll around the neighborhood. No backpacks minimal hills.It would be interesting to find out if those stats were based on people walking with or without a backpack, on flat or hilly terrain, and for walks over what distance
One good reason on the CP over the last week would have been to get out of the stifling heat. That said, I found it suited me to set a steady pace that I could maintain, even when I was turning into a ball of sweat.Anyhow - I can walk faster - but why would I want to do that on a long distance walk?
Yeah - I just start a little earlier in the AM to avoid the hottest parts of the day. Also an argument for a solar umbrella - helped a lot on the few hot days I had last year.One good reason on the CP over the last week would have been to get out of the stifling heat. That said, I found it suited me to set a steady pace that I could maintain, even when I was turning into a ball of sweat.
@peterhore -
My answer? "It depends!"
I just digested this from a walk in Spring 2014. It was a walk with a physically impaired companion. Because of time of year, we walked the Valcarlos.
That said, when I walked alone (@58 & 63 y/o - reasonable healthy but not an athlete!), my stages and the distance charts were rather similar...only about a day's difference between them in duration between SJPP and SdC. Walking time varied from 4-5 hours (early) to 6-7.5 hours (later).
The chart shows "km/day" and "7DMA" (7 Day Moving Average of Miles walked per day - - "zero" mile days are included).
Yes, a weird presentation perhaps, but it allows "km" and "mile" people both to get a feeling for distances without making the chart too "busy".
Start slow, listen to your body, and the distance per day will take care of itself.
Buen Camino,
B
3 to 4 mph (5 to 6.5 kph), 6-8 hours per day. The variation is dependent on terrain, weather and route. Some Camino's like Frances there are frequent accommodations. The VdlP not so much.Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
When I did my Camino 4ks per hour 6 /7 hours.Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
I thought I was an average walker, but by this research I fall under the slow walker category. On a flat gymnasium floor I average about 3 miles per hour doing laps. I pass many others that walk there, but there are a couple that walk faster than I. Given the inclines, declines, gravel roads, rocks, and mud, I'd be lucky to do 2 mph.Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
Also from Glasgow going on my 18 th Camino 24 th May nearly 71 yrs young speed irrelevant it's what your comfortable with that matters no use killing oneself for the sake of a watch book ahead take your time and enjoy this glorious journey Buen CaminoPeter, I am a lazy toerag. Born and bred in a town near Glasgow, I would not walk the length of myself till I was almost 58, and set out on the cf. Since then if I do not get in my daily at home 10,000 steps I berate myself. I know that I managed a 1km 12 minute average on my CF. Oh dear, I have slowed down! Is that helpful for your research? I need to go on to something else now, but will check in later. And aren't we so blessed to have this luxury of comparing speed notes? Please believe me, I am serious. I respect your question.
My average on both my Vía de la Plata walks was 33 km and my Francés over 40 km. The rest of my many Caminos were around 30 km per day which is comfortable for me.In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
My experience too. Compared to Gronze calculations (from exit town to entrance next?) my Fitbit underestimates stages by as much as 5 km on a 30 km walk. I also recently walked 25 km with my son and his Polar watch clocked in 4-5 km more than mine. You can plug in your stride length on the Fitbit but the problem is that your stride changes whether on flat, inclines or declines and depending on terrain. But heck, it's just a toy that gives you an estimate.My husband turns on both his phone AND his fit bit apps for speed and distance even when he walks with me to work and back so you are not the only one... crazily they often have different readings for the same walk.
This is my style. No hurry.I generally walk 3 mph, slightly faster but not by much (19 minutes/mile is more accurate). It isn't a race. 3mph is a very comfortable pace for me. Then I stop and meander when I want to! Take rest breaks when I want to. This is for flat and downhill, with or without a light backpack (under 15 lbs). Uphill it depends on how I am feeling and how steep of an incline. Anyhow - I can walk faster - but why would I want to do that on a long distance walk?
In the end if you have time does it matter ?I kept up a 4km per hr pace, up and down, for most of the day for 4 caminos. It is trained into me and my legs just go that rhythm, even though I no longer carry 40- 70 pounds. You would think that with minimal weight my body would pick a faster pace, but I just doesn't happen. I think I hear the cadence in mybhead, still! This year, I have a bad neck to attend to so slowing down is a must.
I agree! Camino is not a Race, is a pilgrimage, and you can do it how ever you wish! I understand that some people have time restrictions, and others do t…as they once told me: “Hike your own Hike!” So walk you own walk, and enjoy Camino.As fast or slow as I want!
Thanks for the invitation: I need to finish my VdlP first, but I do want to walk the Aragones sometime. Don't think I'll ever go back to the CF though - too crowded!Meet me in Barcelona in late in mid October and you can join me on my Camino from Somport on the Aragones to the CF to Santiago.
How about for a beer? Barcelona will be home in 2 monthsMeet me in Barcelona in late in mid October and you can join me on my Camino from Somport on the Aragones to the CF to Santiago.
I manage 5km in the first hour and then slow down a bit. My natural pace seems to be about 12:30 per km. For example 2 days ago I left Estella at 6:15am and was in Los Arcos before the albergue opened at noon.Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
That could work for sure. When I know my arrival I will PM you and we can make arrangements. ThanksHow about for a beer? Barcelona will be home in 2 months
This is a complicated question.Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
I just walked the VDLP last October-December. Most municipal albergues and many private ones were closed as well as most kitchens. It is a unique experience to say the least. I figure to hit the CF in early November so from past experience it shouldn't be too bad. I walked in 2019 and had plenty of solitude as well as making wonderful friends. I actually thought about walking the Aragones and then going over to Lisbon and walking the CP again. Love Portugal. Think I will wait on that and start in Faro. Buen CaminoThanks for the invitation: I need to finish my VdlP first, but I do want to walk the Aragones sometime. Don't think I'll ever go back to the CF though - too crowded!
Last Camino (Portuguese) I discovered a few important things.Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
YEP! But I don't have a speed app on my phone. I do track my distances and my apple watch tells me my speed. But I always look at distance and can usually tell my arrival time at my next destination with adding time for any breaks taken. I really don't take "rest" breaks, but I do take "food" breaks - so I only add time if I decide to sit down to eat.I'm one of those people who on a long drive, will see a road sign that says 600 kms to my destination.......
And immediately I'm dividing it by my average speed and estimating my arrival time.
Sad I know
Particularly when I'm also using GPS on google maps!
But I do the same on Camino
I'll look at the guidebook.....
And I have a speed app on my phone.......
And I'll estimate when I'll arrive at my coffee stop, lunch stop.........
But we all do that? Right?
Please say you do........
I kept up a 4km per hr pace, up and down, for most of the day for 4 caminos. It is trained into me and my legs just go that rhythm, even though I no longer carry 40- 70 pounds. You would think that with minimal weight my body would pick a faster pace, but I just doesn't happen. I think I hear the cadence in mybhead, still! This year, I have a bad neck to attend to so slowing down is a must.
For sure and that's why it makes little sense to ask what others can do.I think that's it.
We all have a natural 'cadence'.
That's why walking at someone else's pace is so hard, if it doesn't match ours....
I’m in Logronio and I try to walk around 20 km/day…walking about 7hrs/day…it’s maybe a slow but it’s working for me….Recently reported research at University of Leicester grouped 400,000 adults with an average age of 57 into
(a) 7% slow walkers (less than 3 mph/4.8 kph)
(b) c50% average walkers (3 to 4 mph), and
(c) c40% brisk walkers (more than 4 mph/6.4 kph)
The age-related/biological difference between (a) and (c) was as much as 16 years!
Personally I reckon on an average of at least 4 kph which includes rests (second breakfast and 'elevenses' and maybe some shopping/sightseeing), and walking from about 0700 to 1300, say 6 hours per day or 24 kms a day, and I can stretch this to 30kms for a couple of days only. But recently I followed a blogger who was walking (running?) about twice that speed, arriving exhausted and doing nothing other than watch movies, etc on his phone. In March on th e VdlP I met another pilgrim who claimed to be averaging 30-40 kms per day and had no time to "stop and stare" at anything.
My question, please, is how fast do you walk in the Camino? And for how many hours per day?
I have been thinking about all this and especially for retired people or people who are fortunate enough to have alot of time. I think what you said can kind of sum things up for most people. What I commented on is pretty personal. I think it should and does come down to terrain, weather, mood and of course level of physical pain. The key is just to find your own pace and with your own pace comes your own personal happiness. I think that is the key and who cares who passes you when you are in spiritual, emotional and hopefully mental bliss.My speed varies. I generally walk quite slowly and stop a lot, for coffees, breaks, to take photos....
I'm on the trail about 6-8 hours a day. My average speed is fairly consistent at 3.5 kph including breaks.
I use 3.5 kph for distance planning purposes. It really doesn't vary.......
Whilst actually walking though, it can vary depending on terrain, weather, mood.
Now and again I might reach 6 kph over short sections, but that is really a 'work out' for me.
So my regular speed is more like 4-5 kph.
Most people pass me
Congratulations on your tenacity and courage. Over the past 9 years, I’ve walked the Frances in 2+ stages and the Portuguese—all in good health. Currently on Ingles with my 18 month diagnosis of Parkinson’s Disease. Very slow as I need to maintain strength and energy. Taking 12 days with two rest days to complete. Fortunately my walking companion, much quicker than I, is very patientIt's an interesting thing to ponder, this rate of walking...I can't remember walking a Camino in perfect health. I've walked the CF following a mastectomy, with pneumonia and a broken bone in my foot. I walked the Via de San Francisco, Italy following abdominal surgery, the Portuguese Camino with a tumor in my L knee, the Ingles with major GI issues. This year, after a two year COVID forced hiatus, I return following complete reconstruction of my GI tract, esophagus and diaphragm. I've no idea what rate I would be going if healthy and unencumbered. The rate at which I walk is not important to me...just being able to get where I'm going is enough. I leave from Porto on June 1st and I'll be going so slowly, very slow...I'll need to make sure I'm actually still moving forward! BUT...feeling BLESSED beyond all measure to be getting out to walk again! ( yes, carrying pack ) ( yes, 63 yrs old ) ( yes, stubborn as hell )
Agree, I think I walk quickly , until I meet someone who walks quicker. Go at your own paceI think that's it.
We all have a natural 'cadence'.
That's why walking at someone else's pace is so hard, if it doesn't match ours....
I got passed by a daschund on the downhill portion of a walk.Well, today while I was out walking, I heard a tortoise snicker at me as it went past.
Dachshunds are sneaky fast, plus they have a low center of gravity that allows them to fly around switchbacks at top speed. . .I got passed by a daschund on the downhill portion of a walk.
Walk On! Blessings to you as well my fellow warrior...Vaya con Dios , the hill awaits!Congratulations on your tenacity and courage. Over the past 9 years, I’ve walked the Frances in 2+ stages and the Portuguese—all in good health. Currently on Ingles with my 18 month diagnosis of Parkinson’s Disease. Very slow as I need to maintain strength and energy. Taking 12 days with two rest days to complete. Fortunately my walking companion, much quicker than I, is very patient. I still remember my “healthy” Camino walks where I was tired but not fatigued. Tomorrow I tackle the hill out of Pontedeume . Blessings on your trip!!
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